Caught in a Webb

Over the last decade or so, official responses to the State of the Union — Republicans responding to Clinton, Dems responding to Bush — haven’t gone particularly well. Some have even joked about a “curse,” leading to either ineffective speeches, political peril, or both.

I think it’s safe to say Sen. Jim Webb (D-Va.) has ended the curse. Consider Jay Carney’s take, for example.

Jim Webb, whose awkwardness on the stump was well known during his Senate campaign, just delivered the most compelling response and rebuttal to a State of the Union address I’ve seen in the past 15 years. He nailed it — conveyed his personal knowledge about military service, that people serve without regard to political ideology or political identification, and did it without succumbing to partisan one-upmanship. He invoked the trust those who serve have in their commander in chief, their faith that he sends them into harm’s way with the most noble of intentions. He even managed to make reference to his father’s service, his own in Vietnam and his son’s in Iraq — all without condescension or self-congratulation.

His direct delivery, his deliberate pauses between sentences, his old-fashioned accent — all made it an unapologetic speech but not a lecture. He showed the Democrats, and all those who oppose Bush on Iraq, a way to oppose the war with dignity, humility and strength.

On MSNBC last night, Chris Matthews said this was the first time in 30 years that the opposition response was stronger than the president’s address. Newsweek’s Jonathan Alter agreed, saying, “Something unprecedented happened tonight, beyond the doorkeeper announcing, “Madame Speaker.” For the first time ever, the response to the State of the Union Message overshadowed the president’s big speech. Virginia Sen. James Webb, in office only three weeks, managed to convey a muscular liberalism — with personal touches — that left President Bush’s ordinary address in the dust.”

Those who’ve heard Webb on the stump lately know that the senator said a lot of the things he says quite frequently. But this was Webb’s introduction to the national stage, and he scored big.

How good was it? Consider some excerpts.

On Iraq: “The majority of the nation no longer supports the way this war is being fought; nor does the majority of our military. We need a new direction. Not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Not a precipitous withdrawal that ignores the possibility of further chaos. But an immediate shift toward strong regionally-based diplomacy, a policy that takes our soldiers off the streets of Iraq’s cities, and a formula that will in short order allow our combat forces to leave Iraq.”

On the economy: “Regarding the economic imbalance in our country, I am reminded of the situation President Theodore Roosevelt faced in the early days of the 20th century. America was then, as now, drifting apart along class lines. The so-called robber barons were unapologetically raking in a huge percentage of the national wealth. The dispossessed workers at the bottom were threatening revolt. Roosevelt spoke strongly against these divisions. He told his fellow Republicans that they must set themselves ‘as resolutely against improper corporate influence on the one hand as against demagogy and mob rule on the other.’ And he did something about it.”

On today’s broader political dynamic: “Like so many other Americans, today and throughout our history, we serve and have served, not for political reasons, but because we love our country. On the political issues — those matters of war and peace, and in some cases of life and death — we trusted the judgment of our national leaders. We hoped that they would be right, that they would measure with accuracy the value of our lives against the enormity of the national interest that might call upon us to go into harm’s way.”

On moving forward: “[Roosevelt and Eisenhower] took the right kind of action, for the benefit of the American people and for the health of our relations around the world. Tonight we are calling on this President to take similar action, in both areas. If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way.”

As far as SOTU responses go, I think Webb just set a high bar. You can watch it at C&L, among others.

You may recall that Bush confronted Webb a few weeks ago with, “How’s your boy?” I think Webb responded rather forcefully last night.

Webb is an asset to the nation.

  • Regardless of the populist Democrat stance that Webb effectively conveyed last night, the MSM will of course have to preface his performance with

    “…well he’s not really a Democrat” or “…y’know hes one of those Blue Dog Democrats” or “y’know he served in Reagan’s White House so he not really a Democrat”

    This is maddening as hell….and happens all the time in the media….

    Any whiff of liberalism in a Democrat is portrayed as a Scarlet Letter of shame…while on the other end of the spectrum the media couldnt get enough of any extreme far RW position for the last 12 years….

  • i give webb lots of credit, but i’m posting here to note that Jay Carney pretty much exposed himself as a complete asswipe over there in swampland the past 48 hours, so who really cares what a frontrunner like him thinks?

    and even now, he can’t resist a crap remark like praising webb for showing how to oppose the war with “dignity, humility, and strength,” because, after all, us dirty hippies can’t possibly have been showing dignity, humility, and strength to be correct for 4 years while asswipes like carney enabled the bush administration.

  • Webb was an EXCELLENT pick, whoever was in charge of that gets a bunch of points. I kept thinking about how bad it would have sucked if Felix “Macaca” Allen had won that close election. The two are so utterly different in their approaches to politics, and I am sure the people of Virginia are glad they dodged that bullet.

  • “… the MSM will of course have to preface….”

    One thing I like about C-SPAN is that I never have to filter out the MSM’s take on anything. The only “personality” they interviewed before the Shrub’s pointless, boring exercise was a snaggle-toothed professor with an obviously bad hair day and plenty of intelligent things to say. He actually encouraged viewers to stick around for Webb’s post mortem, and I’m very glad he did. I had had my fill of uninspired rejoinders in the past and probably wouldn’t have wanted to suffer any more.

  • Why is it, when the Democrats so need a strong candidate for ’08, the one you think is it “is not ready yet”? They will mention Webb for ’12 or ’16, but we need a straight talker now. And we don’t need that long line of northeastern senators we get every time.

  • As a libertarian Republican, I can say unequivocally, Jim Webb, and others like him are what our nation so desparately needs in these days of far-right idiocy. I think all Americans should take Sen. Webb’s observations and run with them. What a true American he is, compared to that Texas rich boy! -Kevo

  • How in the holy hell did this man not totally trounce Macacawitz? Seriously … is Virginia that bassackwards, do people love the Redskins that much, or was Webb just not that savvy on the campaign trail?

    I ask because, watching Webb’s (this morning online), made me want to stand up and cheer. Loudly.

    The fact that he included the stunning economic disparity in this country was the highlight, IMHO. So many people don’t know just how bad it has gotten — they feel it every day, but don’t know how truly out of control it is — that his highlighting of the numbers should damn near cause a revolt of the proles.

    Well, assuming anyone watched it.

  • Great Response. That’s what real straight talk sounds like. As a former debater, however, I have to say that given the ammunition supplied by this administration, any speaker with moderate skill and cajones could have done the same. I’m not sure that I am happy with the fact that if a non-military person had made the exact same points, the reception would have much cooler, but such is the world.

  • The roles, it seems, are now quite thoroughly reversed….

    In November of 1863, the renowned orator Edward Everett delivered a preponderous speech at the dedication of the Gettysburg National Cemetary. Almost as an afterthought, a gentleman by the name of Lincoln was invited to “say a few appropriate words” to officially consecrate the hallowed ground of the great battlefield.

    We all know the rest of the story—Lincoln “Gettysburged” Everett’s huge speech with a simple recitation that lasted but a few mere minutes.

    Last night, Mr. Webb “Gettysburged” Mr. Bush….

  • How in the holy hell did this man not totally trounce Macacawitz?

    Before he started making gaffes, Allen was almost 20 points ahead. He was a powerful Senator who brought home the bacon and had a significant national profile. He was the presumptive nominee for President. He almost won because of the same built-in advantage (a 99% reelection rate) that all terrible incumbents (of both parties) enjoy. If it was not for Macaca and the n-word, the media never would have paid attention because there was no horse race to focus on and Allen would have won by double digits. But now Webb has an incumbency advantage and a national profile.

  • Eventually, great Americans like Webb–and, if he had a bigger platform, Wes Clark–could move the needle on how the MSM, and the general public, perceives the Democratic Party. We didn’t go from the party of FDR/Trumanite strength and fairness to that of Mondale pandering or Kerry-ish vacillation overnight, and we won’t get back as quickly as most of us here would like–but leaders like Webb can get us there. Last night was a big step.

  • An excellent response by Webb, but I’d have to say I’m a little disturbed by the Iraq segment CB excerpts above. The problem, as has often been noted, is that there really isn’t any way to decently resolve the catastrophe we have created there. “Regional diplomacy,” which is to say, talking to Iran and Syria, is probably a good idea, but isn’t going to stop the Iraqi civil war. Taking our soldiers out of the conflict is vital, but only because it stops their being killed for nothing. Withdrawal won’t stop the rolling disaster which is devastating not only Iraq but also many U.S. interests in the region.

    Republicans accuse democrats of favoring defeat over victory. There’s a grain of truth in this in that Democrats are going to have to face the fact of defeat if they want to move the country’s foreign policy from one based on fantasy to one that engages reality.

    Webb’s rhetorical formulation is OK for now, I suppose, but we as Democrats and as Americans will have to stop the happy talk sometime and understand what has been done and what it’s going to cost us. Iraq is lost. With it goes a huge amount of money we’ve flushed away, an enormous butcher’s bill paid for no return, and a tangible weakening in our world position for many years to come. America is going to have to hear this bitter message sometime, and deal with it maturely and intelligently.

  • Seriously … is Virginia that bassackwards

    In many parts: Yup. Beautiful state though.

    As for Webb, I did watch him last night and I do think that if we were a more unruly country, one mob would have carried him into the White House while another mob gave BushCo (TM) to the hot tar and feathers spa treatment.

    And when he mentioned robber barons I was SURE he was going to wink or something. (How’s your stock portfolio Mr. President?)

  • I knew when it was announced that Webb was going to give the rebuttal, that Webb and the rebuttal was going to be more interesting that the SOTU. I almost felt sorry for the pResident.

  • The Webb response did one thing very beautifully — it put the ball squarely back in the president’s court. While Bush kept using the imagery of all this nation being in the same boat, using words like “we”, “together” and “united.”

    Webb placed the load squarely on the president’s shoulder telling him to get his act together, or Congress would do it for him. Way to show the shrub who’s boss Jim!

  • Was Webb wearing his son’s combat boots when he delivered the speech?

    God love a writer. Joshua Marshall has it on good authority that Webb wrote his own speech.

    Think of that. The SOTU response that outshines the actual SnorrerificOverviewofTheUnion was actually written by the man who delivered it.

    Webb makes me proud,

  • I liked it, too.

    But I was dismayed to just hear Barbara Walters on the view say that Jim Webb didn’t present a Democratic alternative plan to the surge.

    What if, instead of a traditional rebuttal, that’s exactly what we had done? Did we miss an opportunity here?

  • Regional diplomacy … give me a break! Have a nice chat without our trustworthy friends in Iran & Syria. Talk is cheap, but the only reason we have any influence in the region is money & military force.

    Webb said that IKE did the right thing when he ended the Korean war & GWB should follow suit. Well, we are still in Korea. In 50 years we may still be in Iraq.

    Webb said not one step back from the war against international terrorism. Does he think that leaving Iraq before the job is finished will discourage terrorist and make it harder for them?

  • “If he does, we will join him. If he does not, we will be showing him the way.”

    Brilliant. Well done, Mr. Webb.

  • I saw a very-late-in-the-campaign rally for Webb on CSpan last November. Joining Webb at the rally were former VA gov Mark Warner, and current gov, Tim Keane. Keane, you may remember, gave the Dem response last year. I thought he was terrible – I could not stop looking at the eyebrow he insisted on arching over and over again. But, at the rally, he and Warner seemed comfortable and able to stir up the crowd. Webb, who may have been fatigued, came across very flat. I was thrilled last night to see him deliver the goods. Based upon my viewing of his rally, I did not expect it. Form over substance is often the norm in our national politics…

  • I wanted to respond to Been There’s comments a few posts up. He completely ignores the vital concept of Soft Power which America is so lacking today. Ignoring any altruistic virtues that truly humanitarian and progressive work brings for a nation, these activities also increase soft power or ability to influence without the use of military force and threats… Opening up dialogue channels obviously does not overnight give soft power, but it stops the major source of our loss of soft power. The world wide view that America is a big bully that practices favoritism rather than promoting anything remotely equitable. Anything that can contribute to the slight removal of that stain is essential

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