Cheney’s mendacity knows no bounds

I realize that Dick Cheney was in the untenable position of having to defend the administration’s policy in Iraq, and I’ve come to expect a disturbing amount of mendacity in the Vice President’s remarks. But yesterday, on CBS’s Face the Nation, Cheney was in rare form. (TP has video.)

Schieffer: Mr. Vice President, all along the government has been very optimistic. You remain optimistic. But I remember when you were saying we’d be greeted as liberators, you played down the insurgency ten months ago. You said it was in its last throes. Do you believe that these optimistic statements may be one of the reasons that people seem to be more skeptical in this country about whether we ought to be in Iraq?

Cheney: No, I think it has less to do with the statements we’ve made, which I think were basically accurate and reflect reality, than it does the fact that there is a constant sort of perception if you will that’s created because what is newsworthy is the carbomb in Baghdad, it’s not all the work that went on that day in 15 other provinces in terms of making progress in rebuilding Iraq.

In other words, Cheney would prefer that we not dwell on all of the comments he made that turned out to be false, because they, as the VP sees it, “reflect reality.” Why? Because he says so, facts be damned.

In fact, while we’re at it, Cheney would prefer that we also not dwell on all of the carbombs. Or the casualties. Or the serious injuries. Or the lack of a unified Iraqi government. Or the delays in creating an independent Iraqi security force. At the core of Cheney’s perspective, Americans are frustrated and despondent about the war, not because of actual conditions in Iraq, but because the mean ol’ media keeps telling people bad news. Blaming the messenger, of course, is the last refuge of an incompetent head of state.

Wait, it got better.

Schieffer then asked Cheney to respond to a comment from Sen. Ted Kennedy, who said, “It is clearer than ever that Iraq was a war we never should have fought. The administration has been dangerously incompetent, and its Iraq policy is not worthy of the sacrifice of our men and women in uniform.” Cheney didn’t hold back.

“I think what Senator Kennedy reflects is sort of the pre-9/11 mentality about how we ought to deal with the world and that part of the world.

“We used to operate on the assumption before 9/11 that criminal attack was — a terrorist attack was a criminal act, a law enforcement problem. We were hit repeatedly in the ’90s and never responded effectively. And the terrorists came to believe not only could they strike us with impunity, but if they hit us hard enough they could change our policy, because they did in Beirut in 1983 or Mogadishu in 1993.

“We changed all that on 9/11. After they hit us and killed 3,000 of our people here at home we said enough is enough. We’re going to aggressively go after them. We’ll go after the terrorists wherever we find them. We’ll go after those states that sponsor terror. We’ll go after people who can provide them with weapons of mass destruction.”

And this relates to Iraq…why? Iraq was connected to 9/11…how? Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction that could be provided to terrorists are…where?

Cheney concluded, “I think Ted Kennedy has been wrong from the very beginning.” If this political gig doesn’t work out for Cheney — and, really, it already hasn’t — he could certainly consider a career in comedy. He may need to work on his timing, though.

Remember that all the Neocons beleived in the theories of Laurie Mylroie. She blamed Iraq and Saddam for the 93 WTC bombing, and 9/11, and even the 95 Oklahoma City bombing. Yes that’s right, a hard-core US militia member was accepting help from Saddam.

You may not recall the name because she has kept a low profile since 2003, but her theories were very popular amoung people like Feith, Wolfowitz, Libby, John Bolton, and Perle.

Here is a link to an article on her from Washington Monthly.
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0312.bergen.html

  • Once you realize that Cheney’s reality is deception and each stated factoid confirms its opposite, anyone can see that Cheney himself can be cited as evidence when he says his critics are in “pre-9/11 thinking”. And it was in fact Bush, Cheney, et al who came into office (pre-9/11 remember?) wanting to invade Saddam’s Iraq. So Cheney himself is the best proof that for him 9/11 was a convenient excuse, not a cause.

  • I listened to this interview on the radio over the weekend and one thing became crystal clear.

    Cheney is the one living in a bubble. And Bush just mouths what Cheney tells him to.

    The other issue I had with this interview is, why in the hell is the VP out running the PR for this admin on the war??? Where is the Sec. of Defense? Where is our National Security Advisor?? And if you’re going to get someone so high up in the admin to comment, why not trot out the Pres himself??

    I think the answer is clearer than ever…Cheney is the schmo running the show.

  • Cheney is full of crap, and everyone knows it except for about 25% of Americans, who think Jesus is coming back soon. Arguing facts with them is a fool’s errand, because they think life is a grand illusion.

    Keep talking, Dick. The more you talk, the worse your party looks.

  • In reality, Cheney is:

    a) Darth Vader
    b) the personification of evil
    c) Beelzebub
    d) the devil incarnate
    e) all of the above and more

  • I switched away from Face the Nation to Meet the Press just because I did not want to listen to more of Cheney’s lies.

    Still, reading what you have here, I think I see the wheels turning in Dick’s head. When Cheney said we’d be greeted as liberators, he thought that, so that was reality and he was expressing reality. Being wrong now does not mean he was lying then.

    When Cheney said ten months ago that the insurgency was in its last throes, he thought that then, so that was reality and he was expressing reality. Being proven wrong by the fact that the insurgency is ongoing does not mean he was lying then.

    But the kicker is the 9/11 change from law inforcement to military action. This is great for Cheney. Even though Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11 and Al Qaida was his sworn enemy, he did allow a branch of Al Qaida to operate in Kurdish regions and he gave money to the families of Palestinan suicide bombers (as do the Saudi, don’t they?) so Iraq was a supportor of terrorism. Therefore Kennedy is wrong, wrong-headed to suggest that the Iraq invasion was STUPID. One must not question Dick Cheney, after all, or he might shoot them in the face.

    Cheney is never going to admit that his mistaken beliefs mean his actions where mistaken. As long as he believed at the time that Saddam must be deposed, all the 2000+ dead American servicemen, the thousands maimed, the billions spent, the tens of thousands of dead Iraqi and the still unreconstructed destruction of Iraq do not matter. Cheney does not question the results of his policies because he does not question the creation of his policies.

    So don’t try to point out to Cheney that his beliefs were wrong. It’s a waste of time.

  • Perhaps it’s time to remind people that no one should believe what Dick Cheney says. Even Shooter said as much last month after the hunting accident.

    Cheney: Well, who is going to do that? Are they going to take my word for what happened?

  • “and the terrorists came to believe not only could they strike us with impunity, but if they hit us hard enough they could change our policy, because they did in Beirut in 1983 or Mogadishu in 1993.”

    Is this not exactly what we did after 9/11?? We didn’t just change policy, we eliminated the very premise of freedom from our society, to “fight the war on terror”

    It is becoming clearer why the second amendment was put into the Constitution.

  • Cheney Logic applied: “Back on 9/11 everyone focused on the 4 planes that crashed, not on the thousands that took off and landed safely that very same day.”

  • Dear Jeebus, what incompetent interviewing. How about some follow-up questions? Here are a couple: what did Iraq have to do with 9/11? Why haven’t you found any proof after three years of being in complete control of Iraq? Come to think of it, where are those WMD? Are you saying you are *not* in complete control of the country? Why is that?

    Why are these liars treated with deference?

  • Lance certainly has it right. If there is anyone in the administration who is the personification of that quote about “we’re the actors… we create reality that you react to…” it is Cheney.

    I am still plowing through “The Assassin’s Gate” (not because it isn’t masterfully written and readable – it is all of that – but because it just gets depressing to read on and on and on and on about their total and completely insance incompetence). Reading it, one has to wonder what reality we’ve all been living in the last 35 years, that anyone could have ever thought of Cheney as a “competent adult.” The mind just reels, going over his career in retrospect.

  • For those who want to see what I meant that Cheney’s mendacity and incompentence have been around for awhile for those with ears to hear and eyes to see and brains to think, here’s something from the ever-perspicacious Josh Marshall, written 3 years ago in the Washington Monthly:

    http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0301.marshall.html

    I do believe Josh qualifies for the I Told You So Award with gold leaf clusters and diamonds, for this one.

  • I agree with #2: attacking Iraq was “pre 9/11 thinking.”

    The Dems need to defang the “cut and run” rhetoric that even Ken Mehlman was just getting press for recently. Cut and run? No! This administration is “Hanging our Armed Forces out to Dry” just to save their own political asses.

  • Well, of course “Senator Kennedy reflects the pre-9/11 mentality”–he served in the Army from 1950-53, whereas Cheney served…uh, well he commanded from one of his secure, undisclosed locations while Incurious George was still flippin’ through the pages of The Pet Goat while waiting for Andy Card to tell him where the nearest bathroom was.

    Now that’s what I call some good post-9/11 thinkin’!

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