Clinton outperforms Bush — in everything

May 13, 2006

This is my kind of [tag]poll[/tag].

In a new poll comparing President Bush’s job performance with that of his predecessor, a strong majority of respondents said President [tag]Clinton[/tag] outperformed [tag]Bush[/tag] on a host of issues.

And by “host of issues,” CNN meant “all issues.”

* Handling the [tag]economy[/tag] — Clinton beats Bush, 63% to 26%.

* Solving the [tag]problems[/tag] of ordinary Americans — Clinton beats Bush, 62% to 25%.

* Managing [tag]foreign affairs[/tag] — Clinton beats Bush, 56% to 32%.

* Handling [tag]taxes[/tag] — Clinton beats Bush, 51% to 35%.

* Responding to [tag]natural disasters[/tag] — Clinton beats Bush, 51% to 30%.

* Handling [tag]national security[/tag] — Clinton beats Bush, 46% to 42%.

* The more [tag]honest[/tag] president — Clinton beats Bush, 46% to 41%.

* The president who did more to [tag]divide[/tag] the country — Bush beats Clinton, 59% to 27%.

For years after Ronald [tag]Reagan[/tag] left office, conservative activists launched a concerted campaign to convince Americans that Reagan’s presidency was a success and the former president should be remembered for his achievements. It was largely effective; Reagan is more fondly remembered now than he was while in office.

Clinton, meanwhile, doesn’t need partisans to make his presidency look good — after a few years of watching Bush, Americans can’t help but miss having a competent, capable leader in the Oval Office.

“Handling taxes — Clinton beats Bush, 51% to 35%.”

Note the relatively low margin here. The public is blissfully unaware of how the Republicans are raping the middle class, working poor and poor to enrich the coffers of the wealthy through a series of obscene tax cuts during the Bush administration.

So brazen are they, and so confident the public simply doesn’t get it, and that the listless Democrats won’t tell them, that they are trumpeting this latest $70 billion package as a great Republican triumph, and a benefit to all Americans.

Will the people swallow this swill? You bet they will.

  • The ultimate insult to the Rethugs here, however, is that after Clinton was impeached (allegedly) for lying about an affair, and lost his law license for (allegedly) lying in his sworn deposition, and essentially admitting he lied about Gennifer Flowers — not one bigt of which I give a damn about, by the way — Clinton is seen as “the more honest president.”

    The more I think about how much that has to hurt, the better my Saturday gets.

  • The more I think about how much that has to hurt, the better my Saturday gets.

    Zeitgeist, you read my mind.

  • I thought this might fit in here:

    A former prosecutor who investigated Bill Clinton’s affair with Monica Lewinsky was still a married man when he allegedly stalked his former lover in Manhattan, his estranged wife’s sister said yesterday.

    Robert Ray, the independent counsel who helped probe the Clintons’ Whitewater land deal – later spawning the Lewinsky investigation – surrendered to cops Thursday.

    His ex-girlfriend, Tracy Loughlin, had told police that Ray – a former GOP Senate candidate from New Jersey – had obsessively followed her and blanketed her with unwanted calls and e-mails after their breakup four months ago.

    “I don’t have anything to say right now,” a shaken Loughlin, 40, said outside her Murray Hill apartment building yesterday.

    But the red-haired beauty then added that Ray had told her he was divorced when they were together – a claim that Ray’s sister-in-law vehemently denied.

    “My sister has suffered tremendously in the last year and divorce proceedings are well underway,” said Sarah Lawrey, whose sister, Kristen, married Ray in 1984 and lived with him in Rumson, N.J.

    “But they are not divorced yet,” Lawrey said. “This is just another thing that will hurt my sister.”

  • Clinton was president during a time of peace and prosperity…I think the poll measures the respondents’ desire for the good old days, rather than the abilities of the two leaders.

    Clinton did little to move the country forward or to prepare for the dangers on the horizon. He gave us dozens of tiny, populist programs to please the masses. But he ignored the major dangers that his successor is now forced to deal with.

    Immigration policy? Punt. Stopping the spread of Islamo-terrorism? Punt.

    It is a good thing Bill Clinton is not president now…otherwise we would all best be studying Arabic and boning up on the Sharia.

  • Not scientific but still fun.

    From CNN.com. QuickVote:

    Created: Friday, May 12, 2006, at 21:12:32 EDT

    Which man would you say was more honest as president?
    President Bush 26% 19803 votes

    President Clinton 74% 55319 votes

    Total: 75122 votes

  • My samoyed and three cats could snooze the afternoon away and outperform Bush. The Regal Moron doesn’t care as long as the Bush Crime Family prospers … which it is, in ways the so-called press hasn’t yet dreamed of.

    As to Clinton … well, I guess 20% of a leader is better than no leader at all (or, in the Regal Moron’s case, negative percentages of leadership). Talk about *blown* opportunities!

  • > Clinton was president during a time of peace and prosperity

    Yah, cuz he didn’t f*ck up the economy or start an endless, pointless war.

    > Stopping the spread of Islamo-terrorism? Punt

    hugh (is that you, neil ??), do you remember when the phrase “wag the dog” came into popular usage ? Think hard. It was the tag the Republicants hung on Clinton when he attempted to take out bin Laden – the implication being that Clinton was inventing an enemy out of whole cloth to distract from domestic troubles.

    Do you remember what Clinton’s outgoing staff tried to warn the incoming Bush people about ? Think even harder. That’s right. Watch out for bin Laden. And we all know how the Bush White House responded – by back-burnering anti-terrorism activies so they could concentrate on completing Cheney and Rummy’s unfinished mission in Iraq – getting rid of Saddam aka the mission that Bush 41 wouldn’t let them complete.

    This White House hasn’t just been inept or incompetent – they’ve been criminal in their dereliction of duty.

  • Trollboy said:

    “It is a good thing Bill Clinton is not president now…otherwise we would all best be studying Arabic and boning up on the Sharia.”

    Given that Clinton stopped more terrorist attacks than BushGang has, arrested and CONVICTED more terrorists than BushGang has, and had an active anti-terrorist program that MoronBoy and his fat ass buddy Dick Cheney ignored until 9/11, your comment continues to prove that the beliefs of right wingers are FANTASIES.

    Go stick your head back up your ass, so no one notices you lack a forehead due to the lack of frontal lobes.

  • Ah, the Good Old Days. Remember how good the ’90s were? We had a president who actually cared about what the American public thought. We had an economy that was thriving and, for some reason, EVERYBODY felt like it was thriving.

    Now we have a president who proudly doesn’t listen to the American people. We have a party in power that gets mad when most Americans don’t see that the economy is doing well. (Note: it’s only doing well for the investing class.)

    I gave Bush every ounce of support I had after 9/11 and, for a time, he did well. Then he invaded Iraq. Since then, he’s tried to weasel his way out of every situation he’s been in. He takes no responsibility for his actions. Katrina, Iraq, nothing. It’s always someone else’s fault, someone else’s problem. Where’s all this Personal Repsonsibility the Republicans are always squawking about? I guess that’s only for poor black people who “chose” to live in New Orleans.

    I’m tired of this “president” and his party screwing this country. They are here to raid the government, run up the debt, and blame everyone else for the problems they have caused.

    I really hope they impeach his ass. He deserves it. Clinton didn’t deserve impeachment, but this guy sure does. Judging by the results of this Clinton/Bush poll, I’m not the only one who feels that way.

  • Take heart, Hugh. Michael Moore was right about one (and only one)thing: We live in fictitious times… when people who support socialized healthcare, radical gun control, medical research bordering on eugenics, and have a decreasingly tacit sympathy for those who want to slaughter every Jew on the planet gleefully call Bush a Nazi. At long last sirs, have you no sense of the ironic? The fact that the MSM pretty hate machine is having success says much more about the ‘masses’ than it about anyone in . Sixty percent of the American electorate hates GWB’s guts. Sixty percent of the American electorate can find neither Iraq nor Louisianna on a map. Coincidence?

  • Able Danger:
    Clinton was involved with the conception of Able Danger which was a top-secret highly classified United States Special Operations Command military intelligence program under the command of the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM). It was created as a result of a directive from the Joint Chiefs’ of Staff in early October 1999 by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hugh Shelton, to develop an Information Operations Campaign Plan against transnational terrorism, “specifically al-Qaida.” According to statements by Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and confirmed by four others, Able Danger had identified the September 11, 2001 attack leader Mohamed Atta, and three of the 9/11 plot’s 19 hijackers, as possible members of an al Qaeda cell linked to the ’93 World Trade Center Attacks. The group used all information legally collected under the rule of law. Primarily consisting of classified information, all publicly obtained information was approved after a legal review of SOCOM lawyers. If true, the early identification of the four hijackers by Able Danger would contradict the official conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, that American intelligence agencies had not identified Atta as a terrorist prior to the attack. Clniton stopped it right before he left office in January 2001.

    Project Echelon:
    Clinton used Project Echelon is a highly secretive world-wide signals intelligence and analysis network run by the UKUSA Community. Echelon can capture radio and satellite communications, telephone calls, faxes and e-mails nearly anywhere in the world and includes computer automated analysis and sorting of intercepts. Echelon is estimated to intercept up to 3 billion communications every day. Reportedly created to monitor the military and diplomatic communications of the Soviet Union and its East Bloc allies during the Cold War in the early sixties, Echelon is today believed to also search for hints of terrorist plots, drug-dealers’ plans, and political and diplomatic intelligence in the United States (without congressional authority) and aroun the world. But some critics claim the system is also being used for large-scale commercial theft and invasion of privacy.

    Clinton use it to spy on his political enemies, political affiliated organizational groups in and out of the United States to other countries politicans and their citizens for his gained. to take advantage of or punished them. Clinton also used Echelon to spy on companies and investment firms for fiancial gain over them to the illegal advantage to inflate the United States economy in the 90’s in and out of the United States to other countries.

    Also stealing ideas and concepts of products of those companies and investment firms to give to United States companies to profit of the technology of goods to be sold around the world for fiancial gain in the global business community for campaign money.

    Project Carnivore:
    The Clinton administration has pressed hard for laws extending federal ability to wiretap—signing the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) which required telephone companies to design their equipment by 1998 to allow federal wiretaps of phone calls and certain “call-identifying information.”
    In 1999 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approved technical requirements proposed by the Clinton administration that would enable the police to locate individuals using cell phones.
    It has already been revealed in articles in the mainstream press that the U.S. government is involved in extensive international spying on the Internet using a highly secret spying program called Echelon.

    Chinagate:
    China & North Korea: Loral Communications and Hughes Communications selling highly secret and classified military polpulsion (rocket boosters) technology for campaign money. Also the selling of highly secret and classified military nuclear technology to make a bomb for campaign money.

    9/11 Commission Investigation:
    Sandy Berger- National Archives- taken highly classified documented secrets related to the Clinton Administration handlingof or lack of in the 90’s written by the famous Richard Clarke who work as Clinton and George W. Bush terrorists expert. The papers contain a harsh critizismof the Clinton Administration taking terrorism seriously. Sandy Berger Clniton NSA Advisor all of 90’s comes into the picture by him going to the National Archives and stuffing into his socks, pants pockets, shirt, down his pants and in his brief case to destroy the evidence by supposily shredding the documents and possibly replacing with others not blame Clinton but Bush II for 9/11attack.

    Operation Merlin:
    Clinton – give chose a defected Russian nuclear scientist to provide deliberately flawed nuclear warhead and nuclear trigger device blueprints to activate to Iranian officials in February 2000. Operation Merlin backfired when the Russian scientist noticed the flaws and pointed them out to the Iranians. Clinton gave Iran highly classified military nuclear trigger secrets blue prints.

  • Ooops, I didn’t know the rightwing nutjob express stopped here. And still hating Clinton after all these years of Bush destroying the country? I admire your ability to breathe under water. Now swim on back to your gated community. You must have something better to do with the Apocalypse coming.

  • Able Danger:
    Clinton was involved with the conception of Able Danger which was a top-secret highly classified United States Special Operations Command military intelligence program under the command of the U.S. Special Operations Command (SOCOM). It was created as a result of a directive from the Joint Chiefs’ of Staff in early October 1999 by the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Hugh Shelton, to develop an Information Operations Campaign Plan against transnational terrorism, “specifically al-Qaida.” According to statements by Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer and confirmed by four others, Able Danger had identified the September 11, 2001 attack leader Mohamed Atta, and three of the 9/11 plot’s 19 hijackers, as possible members of an al Qaeda cell linked to the ’93 World Trade Center Attacks. The group used all information legally collected under the rule of law. Primarily consisting of classified information, all publicly obtained information was approved after a legal review of SOCOM lawyers. If true, the early identification of the four hijackers by Able Danger would contradict the official conclusion of the 9/11 Commission, that American intelligence agencies had not identified Atta as a terrorist prior to the attack. Clniton stopped it right before he left office in January 2001.

    Project Echelon:
    Clinton used Project Echelon is a highly secretive world-wide signals intelligence and analysis network run by the UKUSA Community. Echelon can capture radio and satellite communications, telephone calls, faxes and e-mails nearly anywhere in the world and includes computer automated analysis and sorting of intercepts. Echelon is estimated to intercept up to 3 billion communications every day. Reportedly created to monitor the military and diplomatic communications of the Soviet Union and its East Bloc allies during the Cold War in the early sixties, Echelon is today believed to also search for hints of terrorist plots, drug-dealers’ plans, and political and diplomatic intelligence in the United States (without congressional authority) and aroun the world. But some critics claim the system is also being used for large-scale commercial theft and invasion of privacy.

    Clinton use it to spy on his political enemies, political affiliated organizational groups in and out of the United States to other countries politicans and their citizens for his gained. to take advantage of or punished them. Clinton also used Echelon to spy on companies and investment firms for fiancial gain over them to the illegal advantage to inflate the United States economy in the 90’s in and out of the United States to other countries.

    Also stealing ideas and concepts of products of those companies and investment firms to give to United States companies to profit of the technology of goods to be sold around the world for fiancial gain in the global business community for campaign money.

    Project Carnivore:
    The Clinton administration has pressed hard for laws extending federal ability to wiretap—signing the Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA) which required telephone companies to design their equipment by 1998 to allow federal wiretaps of phone calls and certain “call-identifying information.”
    In 1999 the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) approved technical requirements proposed by the Clinton administration that would enable the police to locate individuals using cell phones.
    It has already been revealed in articles in the mainstream press that the U.S. government is involved in extensive international spying on the Internet using a highly secret spying program called Echelon.

    Chinagate:
    China & North Korea: Loral Communications and Hughes Communications selling highly secret and classified military polpulsion (rocket boosters) technology for campaign money. Also the selling of highly secret and classified military nuclear technology to make a bomb for campaign money.

    9/11 Commission Investigation:
    Sandy Berger- National Archives- taken highly classified documented secrets related to the Clinton Administration handlingof or lack of in the 90’s written by the famous Richard Clarke who work as Clinton and George W. Bush terrorists expert. The papers contain a harsh critizismof the Clinton Administration taking terrorism seriously. Sandy Berger Clniton NSA Advisor all of 90’s comes into the picture by him going to the National Archives and stuffing into his socks, pants pockets, shirt, down his pants and in his brief case to destroy the evidence by supposily shredding the documents and possibly replacing with others not blame Clinton but Bush II for 9/11attack.

    Operation Merlin:
    Clinton – give chose a defected Russian nuclear scientist to provide deliberately flawed nuclear warhead and nuclear trigger device blueprints to activate to Iranian officials in February 2000. Operation Merlin backfired when the Russian scientist noticed the flaws and pointed them out to the Iranians. Clinton gave Iran highly classified military nuclear trigger secrets blue prints.

  • And having the media shilling for Clinton, and in non-stop attack mode on Bush, doesn’t hurt, either.

    Nor does ignoring the fact that just about every foreign policy crisis Dubyah has had to face was the result of Clinton’s bumbling.

  • Do you people really think Bush’s approval ratings would be so low if Republicans weren’t sick of him too? The only thing about this that burns us “Rethugs” is that Bush deserves it. And even that can’t burn us as much as losing election after election burns you Dumbacrats. Now THAT’s my kind of poll!

    Scott Stambaugh

  • Oh,right, Clinton was spying on us! Now, there’s a number of ways to look at this:

    1) Clinton was VERY GOOD at protecting us, the American people, because nobody at these VERY CONSERVATIVE agencies LEAKED to the press that a LIBERAL President was breaking the law. He must have used the FISA court like the LAW requires and had full judical oversight.

    Or,

    2) A load of dung. This would have come out with ALL of the petty investigations being run by Republican Congress.

    Or,

    3) A grain of truth buried in a load of dung. Clinton was very concerned about OBL and did what he could to protect us. Sure, he could have done more but the Republican Congress blocked his actions. Too bad the Republicans did not take this threat seriously until it was TOO LATE.

    Maybe Bush can get some lessons from Clinton on how to do all this stuff. Bush don’t seem to good at it.

  • Wow.
    We can go weeks, even a whole month, without hearing anyone defend the Bush administration at this site. But mention something positive about Bill Clinton, and the board lights up like a Christmas tree.

    What’s up with that?

  • I’m no Reagan fan, but yes, Bush makes me nostalgic for the days when we could go toe to toe with a nuclear superpower and perpetually live 20 minutes away from the end of the world.

    But terrorists are way scarier than WWIII. That makes it ok to torture people, spy on ourselves, and out spies for political gain.

  • I will never stop wishing that we were back in the Clinton era when the President was looking out for the average Americans and not just his rich friends. Bush has brought only disgrace to the Presidency of the United States and has lead his “friendly” leaders like Blair down the same path. All the evil things they did to us and to the Iraqi people are coming back to bite them on the ass. We now have a President that is officially worse than Nixon. That takes alot of dirty doings to get to that low point.

  • * The more honest president — Clinton beats Bush, 46% to 41%”

    Now that is really telling. Clinton looked us all in the (TV) eye, and lied. DNA proved he lied. Yet, a plurality of Americans know, rightfully, that Bush is a bigger liar. That has got to hurt the GOP boot lickers. Ooouuucch!

  • The public is blissfully unaware of how the Republicans are raping the middle class, working poor and poor to enrich the coffers of the wealthy through a series of obscene tax cuts during the Bush administration.

    You say that the wealthy are benefitting from the Bush tax cuts? You have not done your research and are spouting the Democrat Party line. How does it feel to be used like that? Did you know that 41% of the population pays no federal income taxes at all and the top 5% of American income earners pay 54.36% of the total tax revenue

    In 1980, the share of income taxes paid by the top 1% of taxpayers was just 19.3 percent. Now the top 1 percent of taxpayers pay 34.27%!

    If you had done your research instead of mindlessly repeating what the Democrats tell you to believe, you would have found that Bush’s “favor-the rich” tax system really doesn’t favor the rich at all and that the rich pay a much greater share of taxes than they did 26 years ago.

    The fact is that tax cuts stimulate the economy and the shift the amount of taxes paid from the poor to the rich. It worked exactly this way for Kennedy, Reagan, and Bush.

    Not only that, but the economy is expanding at a rapid pace and is not dependent on over-hyped dot-coms as it was during the Clinton administration. That must have been really tough for the New York time to admit.

    You really need to examine all that you’re being told. The Democrats count on people like you to believe anything that they tell them. Thinking people don’t vote for Democrats.

    -Michael McCullough
    Stingray:  a blog for salty Christians

  • Clinton, meanwhile, doesn’t need partisans to make his presidency look good — after a few years of watching Bush, Americans can’t help but miss having a competent, capable leader in the Oval Office.

    Are you aware that Clinton refused to have bin Laden extradited? Apparently you aren’t. If you’re drinking the Democratic Party Kool-Aid and believe that Clinton was competent, let’s take a look at how Clinton handled terrorism, via Ann Coulter.

    In February 1993, the World Trade Center was bombed by Muslim fanatics, killing five people and injuring hundreds.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    In October 1993, 18 American troops were killed in a savage firefight in Somalia. The body of one American was dragged through the streets of Mogadishu as the Somalian hordes cheered.

    Clinton responded by calling off the hunt for Mohammed Farrah Aidid and ordering our troops home. Osama bin Laden later told ABC News: “The youth … realized more than before that the American soldier was a paper tiger and after a few blows ran in defeat.”

    In November 1995, five Americans were killed and 30 wounded by a car bomb in Saudi Arabia set by Muslim extremists.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    In June 1996, a U.S. Air Force housing complex in Saudi Arabia was bombed by Muslim extremists.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    Months later, Saddam attacked the Kurdish-controlled city of Erbil.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, lobbed some bombs into Iraq hundreds of miles from Saddam’s forces.

    In November 1997, Iraq refused to allow U.N. weapons inspections to do their jobs and threatened to shoot down a U.S. U-2 spy plane.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    In February 1998, Clinton threatened to bomb Iraq, but called it off when the United Nations said no.

    On Aug. 7, 1998, U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by Muslim extremists.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    On Aug. 20, Monica Lewinsky appeared for the second time to testify before the grand jury.

    Clinton responded by bombing Afghanistan and Sudan, severely damaging a camel and an aspirin factory.

    On Dec. 16, the House of Representatives prepared to impeach Clinton the next day.

    Clinton retaliated by ordering major air strikes against Iraq, described by The New York Times as “by far the largest military action in Iraq since the end of the Gulf War in 1991.”

    The only time Clinton decided to go to war with anyone in the vicinity of Muslim fanatics was in 1999 — when Clinton attacked Serbians who were fighting Islamic fanatics.

    In October 2000, our warship, the USS Cole, was attacked by Muslim extremists.

    Clinton, advised by Richard Clarke, did nothing.

    Michael McCullough
    Stingray:  a blog for salty Christians

  • I really hope they impeach him. He deserves it. Clinton didn’t deserve impeachment, but this guy sure does.Judging by the results of this Clinton/Bush poll, I’m not the only one who feels that way.

  • Wow! excellent poll but found a bit later. Anyhow what else Bush needs to know about his popularity and anything worth show off than war on terrorism.

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