Clinton warns of oblique ‘surprises’ with other Dems

About a month ago, in a now-infamous column, the ethically-challenged Bob Novak reported that Hillary Clinton’s “agents” are gossiping in Democratic circles that the Clinton campaign has “scandalous information” about Barack Obama, which they reportedly will not share. This, you’ll remember, led to an ugly spat between the campaigns, though the Clinton campaign insisted throughout that it had no secret dirt on its rival.

The flap faded eventually, but I couldn’t help but think of Novak’s column now that Clinton is making oblique references to unstated “surprises” associated with her rivals.

Clinton didn’t mention specifics in the taping of an interview on “Iowa Press” this morning, but drew a contrast with unnamed rivals that echoes Bill Shaheen’s now-notorious claim that unexplored elements of Obama’s candidacy will make him an easy Republican target.

“I’ve been tested, I’ve been vetted,” she said. “There are no surprises. There’s not going to be anybody saying, ‘I didn’t think of that, my goodness, what’s that going to mean?'”

Taken at face value, there’s nothing particularly striking about Clinton’s comments. One can interpret them plainly: the right has combed through her adult life with a fine-tooth comb, and everything that could come out, has come out. That should give primary voters some confidence in her chances.

But there’s a broader context to this, which makes the “no surprises” tack appear less innocuous.

Indeed, it’s not even subtle. Given Billy Sheehan’s comments this week about Obama’s teenaged drug use, Clinton adopting a “no surprises” theme hardly seems coincidental.

TNR’s Michael Crowley was also on hand and said Clinton’s comments threw reporters “into a low-grade frenzy.”

Hillary smiled with the patience of a grandmother stuck babysitting bratty kids as reporters barraged her with breathless questions about whether Obama’s drug history is the sort of surprise she’s talking about and whether she thinks general-election voters might punish him for it.

But Hillary wasn’t biting. “I am only talking about myself,” she insisted, looking unusually resplendent in a dark suit with a red blouse and multicolored necklace. Nor would she bite when asked by MSNBC’s David Shuster whether she would flatly declare that “a candidate’s indiscretions as a teenager should not be an issue for voters.” After what I sensed was a moment of uncertainty she concluded, “It’s certainly not an issue in my campaign.” (emphasis in the original)

Clinton is a sharp and savvy campaigner, and she has to realize that comments like these, given the Shaheen controversy, are going to raise eyebrows.

For a year, practically every speech, ad, and pitch has been about touting her experience. The campaign has been quite disciplined about it. But in the stretch run, her campaign seems to be trying to shift to an electability argument, which apparently includes concerns about “surprises” that may befall unnamed rivals.

The campaign really is playing with fire here.

Geez. She’s playing rope-a-dope and she’s going to end up hanging herself. I just wish she’d do it now and get it over with. Her caginess is very unattractive, and I don’t want to be looking at it the next 5+ years.

  • I have to admit. I’m enjoying her campaign’s self-immolation immensely. I thought she’d be harder to stop from buying the nomination and leading the Dems down to defeat in November 2008, but perhaps I held her in too high of esteem. I think that moment of the debate, where she was cackling about the question about why Obama sought advice from so many in Bill’s administration and then got frozen quick with Obama’s witty zinger perfectly shows her for what she is: Someone whose run is based on nothing but ambition and who believes she’s entitled to the nomination without a fight.

  • How many of Clinton’s co-chairs have to lose their jobs to allow Hillary a jab at Obama?

    Sheehan drops the comment, Clinton drops Sheehan. Then all of sudden, she’s dancing around the rehashed non-issue. Convenient.

    It only makes me start to wonder what Novak’s sources for his column were?

    If it acts like a snake…

  • I’m pretty sure she’s only playing with the fire because she’s in danger of losing the primary.

    I’m not a Hillary fan, but in a way she’s right about what’s coming. The Republicans will dredge up and spew out every rumor they can squeeze out of every kid Obama ever sat next to in school or better yet smoked a joint with. They will use every racist stereotype they can get away with. They will be even scummier than usual, because they will be DESPERATE. With even military families abandoning them, they see the extinction of their party clearly written on the wall. This will be (for them) a death match.

    I hope Obama and his family are up to what’s coming. And I hope the media can, just this once, stop repeating bullshit to boost their ratings. We’ll need to be ready to push back hard when/if they become the enablers they usually are.

  • Well said, CB.

    Both Penn and Clinton have now demonstrated that Shaheen’s comments were not an accident.

    The big question is, when will Hillary pressure herself to resign for “personal reasons.”

  • Hillary is my bottom choice among the Democratic field, but I think that you are all reading too much into her comment.

    The “no surprises” comment can be taken at face value. No “swift boat” attacks – it’s already out there that she supposedly murdered Vince Foster, was involved in drug trafficking in Mena, Arkansas, made money in the commodities market, and has a stable of lesbian lovers. It’s all BS, but it’s already out there. The only “bad” thing that the Republicans can smear her with truthfully is that she was and is married to Bill Clinton.

    As for what Obama smoked when he was a teenager: I consider it a plus. I don’t want to vote for anyone who didn’t smoke some marijuana in college. That would be Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee. As for the rest, who knows? How about it, Rudy?

  • How revealing. This latest trick is completely loathesome in its Roviness. Penn is a slimy snake and Hillary has proven she is no better. How many “surprises” will she give us in the general campaign? More cackles? More obvious equivocating in debates?

    She is easily the candidate with the biggest glass jaw, no matter how much she talks of “experience” and “electability.” She is urging Democrats to cower in fear again from the GOP machine. When is enough enough? Not being true to ourselves is what has cost us these last two elections. Voters want a choice. She offers none. The era of the DLC and triangulation should end here.

  • While it’s true (probably) that Hillary has been through it all before, so have the Republicans. They salivate to run against her because they already know how to do it. Obama is an unknown quantity which means they’ll have to start from scratch and given how much success Hillary has had at trying to take him down, the GOP is liable to do an even worse job of it.

  • This new line of attack by the Clinton campaign, based on comments from Obama’s book, has to be making some of the congressional Dems furious. Remember, the Va. Senate contest when George Allen tried to use fictional passages in Jim Webb’s books to raise questions concerning his character and fitness for office. I can recall all of the silly favorable press coverage Allen received from CNN, FOX and MSNBC until Webb’s campaign pushed back hard citing to unsavory passages in Scooter Libby’s and Len Cheney’s books and the storied suddenly went away. I agree with Steve’s post, if the Clinton campaign keeps pushing this angle a reporter is going to dig up, or come out with a verifiable unsavory story about the Clinton’s, ala Gary Hart. If you make the statement ” It’s certainly not an issue in my campaign” a reporter will take that to mean she is saying she doesn’t have anything to hide and try their best to make a fool out of her if they can.

  • Anyone who thinks Hillary is polarizing should remember what Republicans and the MSM did to Mr Milquetoast John Kerry, after promoting him as “the most electable.” I guarantee that whoever wins the Dem nomination will be attacked for the pettiest things, and the MSM will promote them as though they are important. Think about the scandals the MSM has devoted so much time to (Hill said ‘plantation, Biden called Barack ‘clean and articulate, pant suits and cackles, middle names, haircuts, etc.), and then compare it to Republicans. Let’s face it, the Republican crowd makes the Sopranos look like the little rascals.

  • Mrs. Bill Clinton seems to be going down that ole GOP Rovian road of sneaky little smears and sly cuts by her well-ordered underlings. She is still the best Republican candidate for the 2008 Presidential Election.

    The reason that the GOP candidate-mothballs are such a worthless lot is that the potentially stronger GOP candidates (if there are any, waiting in the wings…) realize that the any Republican will be crushed in November 2008. It is probably a good election to sit out and let the GOP take its well-deserved licks and then try in 2012 after folks have begun to foget about the Bush-Cheney regime and all its vile attacks on our democracy.

  • I’m waiting for my “eye brows to raise”. This media analysis of every comment as to it “meaning” or “intent” is really starting to bug me. The Media has grown so obsessive with “making” news that we get articles that are poorly headlined, misleading as to it’s intent and, in alot of cases, just plain wrong. It’s a frenzy and the Media has become a pox on the system. i.e. Did Shaheen mispeak? Yes and no. We all know what the Repubs will do with Obama if he is the nominee. Can you really disagree with Shaheen? I don’t thinks so. But the Media wants to cast everything as a “negative”. Of course, a lot of Democrats are playing along not realizing that they are giving the Repubs all their talking points next year. My question is-Why in the world would any of us trust the Media? Particularly after these last 7 years of abject failure. I’ll trust any Democratice candidate before I’d trust anything that the Media has to offer.

  • It might come as a surprise to most to know where the current attacks on Huckabee are coming from. Trace them back, and you will find most of them can be found to be Hillary’s dumpster diving pals in the AP reporter pool. She would much rather have the race be her and Giulliani, since her file of dirt is much bigger on him. And in a Huckabee/Obama race, Huckabee’s ardent supporters would drop him like a hot potato if he ran a race that is not Vertical. Have none of you read “From Hope to Higher Ground”? Hillary is playing on the Democrats fear of a Theocracy, prejudice against people of faith as homophobes, and their 8 years of Bush Hatred to take Huckabee out so she can run against Giulliani. Yes indeed, the Politics of Personal Destruction are alive and well. Look at how the mainstream media is already playing Obama’s rise as the “Black Vote”. Oy. Sounds the same as the other side that Huckabee only has the “Christian Vote”. Face it, the Main Stream Media wants a Clinton/Giulliani election, and it is up to the People of America to set them straight.

  • If Hillary is stumbling this bad in the primaries, what does it say about her “electability” in the general election? Seems to me, Obama has won every skirmish. And given that Hillary has been using the GOP playbook, it seems that OBAMA is the one best suited to withstand the GOP slime machine.

    Think about it!

  • On my first presidential ballot I voted for Dick Gregory and Dr. Spock on the Peace and Freedom ticket because Nixon made me gag and I couldn’t forgive Humphrey for his Viet Nam enabling. Ever since that time, I’ve felt that I was voting for the lesser of two evils (and later regretted at least three of those votes). If this next election is Hillary v. anybody, I’ll sit it out. After Dubya, I couldn’t vote for a Republican, and after Bill, I couldn’t vote for a Clinton. Despite having tried to keep up with my reading, I still don’t really know a lot about Obama, but if he runs, he’ll have my vote (and so would Bill Richardson, for that matter (though it’s not likely I’ll see that happen).

  • I’ve also been kind of amazed at how no one has noticed that “The Scandal That Must Not Be Named” turned up as the subject of a patented John Solomon in the WaPo hitpiece shortly thereafter. It is hard to avoid the conclusion that the same Clinton people who were saying the scandal was so horrible they couldn’t bring themselves to disclose it ended up dropping the dime on it to Solomon.

  • I will enthusiastically support Obama or Edwards if they win the nomination but I want to send the best horse we have to the race. Too many people are making the same mistake with Clinton as they made with Al Gore in 2000: believing that they are Republican-lite and not worthy of support. There was a world of difference between Gore and Bush as Americans and the rest of the world found out.

    Hillary better take off the kid-gloves and hit Obama and Edwards with the simple truth:

    Obama outed himself as a cocaine user referring to it as “blow” in his biography. What do you think the kind-hearted Rep’s will do with that info? He supports (as do I) drivers licenses for Illegal aliens. They will likely DESTROY the young first term senator on those two things alone.

    Edwards has financially tied his own hands by accepting public financing. If he wins the nomination he will have little to no chance of winning a general election. He didn’t win his home state in the general election of 2004, he will probably lose the primary this time and has virtually no chance of winning his home state in the general.

    Keep something else in mind when you look at the head-to-head numbers for the primary and the general election: Hillary has already been hit hard with attacks by her Dem and Rep opponents and she is still standing. Neither Obama nor Edwards have had to absorb those kinds of sustained blows. Edwards has not recovered from the one attack on his haircut. Rudy, on the other side, has had a few bad weeks and his shot at the big prize is effectively over (someone should tell him).

    It would have been better for Hillary in January 2009 if she didn’t have to go after her Dem opponents and ruffle their feathers; she would get more bills passed. But given the situation, she better start bloodying some noses or the country will be led by a president from a party that should have had to dissolve itself based on their unprecedented incompetence and corruption.

  • r.a.cantrell: “The Clintons are criminals and belong in prison, not in the White House.”

    Well let’s hear it. Get it off your chest. What crimes did they commit? Let’s hear it. Really. Educate me.

  • What fillphil said. This attempt to find the real meaning behind saying “Good morning” is about as absurd as astrology.

    You know, Steve, I’ve always liked Carpetbagger, but this post is irresponsible and ridiculous. I mean, what next? When Obama talks about the divisive politics of the 90s, are you going to interpret that to mean he’s subtly trying to remind people of Monica? Come on.

    This is exactly the kind of reporting that makes political media so worthless. This incessant focus on the horse race and the process, to the point of speculatively inventing some deeper meaning when none is evident. I’ve always expected better from Carpetbagger.

  • I’m with “YellowDogBlue” – obviously Obama thought a little ‘fessing up as to his former drug use was end of story…he didn’t anticipate that Hillary wouldn’t absolve him of this little peccadillo (and after all that heat the Clintons took about how her husband “didn’t inhale” I can’t blame her)…

    Look – Obama is playing with the big boys and girls now…if he can’t take the heat in primary season, imagine how he’s going to stand up in a general campaign.

    Obama has zero government executive experience – we have absolutely no idea how the guy will manage day-to-day affairs of state, much less a crisis – and I think it’s naive to think the other players are obliged to “play nice” with him.

    Sorry to be so hardboiled but my attitude is: “let the vetting begin”…and that goes for all the candidates…it will only get worse next fall against the Repubs.

  • I’d love to see the “surprise” come out about the truth of her “marriage” to Bubba.

    She doesn’t get my vote in the primary and she won’t get it in the general. If she is the candidate, I am putting all my effort into a veto-proof Congress, so we can weather 4 more years of a Republican president when she is defeated.

    “Most electable” – hah! Any one of my cats could beat her on that one.

    We have got to stop voting for presidents named Clinton and Bush if we are going to keep a constitutional republic and avoid the Empire for real.

  • All this nonsense about HIllary having so much more executive experience than Obama is a load of crap. What experience? Sorry, being the wife of the president doesn’t qualify you to be president any more than being the wife of a surgeon qualifies you to transplant hearts.

  • Hillary has no executive experience. Hillary has not passed any significant legislation as an elected Senator. The one policy she was placed in charge of was a colossal failure due to her being uncompromising, Hillarycare was a huge failure. Not only was Hillarycare a complete failure but Hillary has also shown us she does not learn from mistakes nor is she accountable for errors in judgment, thus she followed her vote for the war with a vote for the K-L amendment. Despite claiming to be so well vetted, Hillary herself seems to be easily duped when it comes to taking the nation to war and her failure to even read the NIE report. Who needs someone who is so well vetted they feel no compunction to do their own job?

    What is glaringly obvious to me is that there are NO surprises in Obama’s background or you best beleive Hillary would be telling us about them right now. The best her campaign has been able to come up with is information already published and in the public domain. If there was more they would be pouring it out there, as she is dropping like a stone in both Iowa and NH polls. These latest attacks on Obama which amount to the politics of personal destruction are going to result in her losing.

    Obama is going to win against the GOP because there is nothing out there for them to trash and burn his candidacy. As much as Hillary wants this nomination she would have gladly lit the fuse for them if there was.

    Now, I just want the MSM to trash and burn the Clintons, they are out to destroy the most brilliant politician Democrats have had in over 30 years al because they want ANOTHER turn in the WH. Well they had their turn and it is time for them to get off the national stage. Instead, they are in the process of taking the entire Democratic party down the tubes just because they beleive Hill is entitled to the nomination because of what Bill does with his cigars having been so publically humiliating.

    Well NO it IS NOT. We are tired of their dirty launder and lies. Americans need a fresh start and we WILL turn the page with change we can beleive it. In the face of impossible odds Americans who love their country can take it back, even from Hillary and Bill Clinton.

    Go Home Bill and Hill you are a disgrace to the Democratic party and we have graciously tolerated your rapacious need for power but it is OVER! Go home and take Chelsea with you.

    Obama 08

  • But Hillary wasn’t biting. “I am only talking about myself,” she insisted, looking unusually resplendent in a dark suit with a red blouse and multicolored necklace.

    Sexist. And obnoxious.

  • Comments are closed.