CNN’s Ware warns against long-term U.S. troop presence in Iraq

Of all the journalists who’ve been reporting from Iraq for years now, CNN’s Michael Ware has been one of the standouts, in part because he’s been willing to call “b.s.” against supporters of the Bush administration’s policy.

In October 2006, after Condi Rice gave an upbeat assessment of Iraq, Ware told viewers, “Secretary Rice is so far divorced from that reality that she couldn’t possibly hope to understand it.” In March 2007, after John McCain insisted that Gen. David Petraeus travels around Iraq “almost every day in a non-armed Humvee,” and belittled anyone who disagreed, Ware told viewers that McCain’s credibility on Iraq has been “left out hanging to dry.” In July 2007, after Joe Lieberman said, “The enemy is on the run in Iraq,” Ware told viewers, “[U]nfortunately, I’m afraid that Senator Lieberman has taken an excursion into fantasy.”

Comments like these drew the ire of conservatives, who made Ware out to be a liberal villain, but the irony is, Ware actually took a firm stand against withdrawal of U.S. troops. He called timelines for withdrawal “delusional,” saying it would undermine U.S. “national security interests.” He didn’t criticize Rice, McCain, and Lieberman because he preferred a different war policy; he criticized them for being dishonest and misleading Americans about realities in Iraq — even though he agreed with what they wanted to do.

Interestingly enough, after taking a firm stand against withdrawal last year, Ware, who’s been reporting from Baghdad since before the invasion began, told the Center for American Progress this week that staying in Iraq “could actually ferment further resentment” towards the U.S.

In an interview yesterday, Ware told ThinkProgress that “there will be very much mixed reaction in Iraq” to a long-term troop presence, but he added, “what’s the point and will it be worth it?’

“A limited American capability” stationed in the country would be exposed, said Ware, “to a whole host of dangers” and “could actually ferment further resentment towards the United States.”

In other words, McCain’s 100-year plan wouldn’t help.

Ware also had an interesting perspective on Fred Kagan, who has repeatedly argued that ethnic cleansing is in no way responsible for a decline in violence in Iraq.

Ware explained:

“The sectarian cleansing of Baghdad has been — albeit tragic — one of the key elements to the drop in sectarian violence in the capital. […] It’s a very simple concept: Baghdad has been divided; segregated into Sunni and Shia enclaves. The days of mixed neighborhoods are gone. […] If anyone is telling you that the cleansing of Baghdad has not contributed to the fall in violence, then they either simply do not understand Baghdad or they are lying to you.”

I guess this means the right will go back to hating Ware again.

they either simply do not understand Baghdad or they are lying to you

Or both.

  • “A limited American capability” stationed in the country would be exposed, said Ware, “to a whole host of dangers” and “could actually ferment further resentment towards the United States.”

    A large occupation is too expensive/unworkable and only effective to the extent it was working for one Iraqi subgroup’s partisan benefit. A small occupation would be too exposed and unable to do much of anything.

    We need to get out. As I (and a lot of other people) have been saying for years.

  • What I’d like to hear from Ware is his assessment of what would happen to the security within the nation when US troops leave. Will the nation fall apart even further or will it continue to muddle along as it is doing now? What hasn’t been exposed by any reports, not that there are many reporters left in Iraq, is whether the US presence is actually doing anything other than creating a target for resentment and attacks. If US troops leave will the Iraqis lose a source of anger and then have to focus instead on getting themselves out of their state of misery? It will be interesting to see how the Iraqis respond.

  • But, but, if we leave, it’ll lead to violence and chaos!!

    Shias and Sunnis will kill each other!

    Bodies will be dumped into the streets!

    The whole country will be divided along ethnic lines!

    The country’s infrastructure would fall to pieces!

    Corruption would run rampant within the government!

    Even the Shias will fight among themselves!

    And there won’t be an American force to deter Turkey from launching operations against the Kurds!

    Dogs and cats will sleep together!

    And worse of all, the al Qaeda/Iran Axis of Evildoers will take over the whole country! Then they’ll use Iraq as a base to launch their invasion of America!

    Why, none of this would ever happen as long as American troops are present, you know.

  • CNN’s Michael Ware, CBS’s Lara Logan… why are the fearless journalists ALWAYS Australian (or South African or whatever?)

  • 2Mancu – lofl!

    Well said. And Ware is one of the best out there, despite his CNN Dramatics training.

    As for Kagan, what’s there to say? He’s a dangerous wannabe. A fat little fuck moving plastic soldiers and model tanks around in a diorama. Hey Fred, where were you when General Shinseki was having his ass handed to him by your neocon friends? I guess we should have listened to his thinly-veiled warning that invading Iraq was going to be a goatfuck.

    Do us all a favor, Fred, and go volunteer to swap out drainage tubes in Ward 58 at Walter Reed. Then maybe you’ll think about the shit you spout on the News Hour.

  • michael ware is a badass; he probably lives outside of the green zone. when he’s on CNN (too rarely) i always take notice.

    just like his face, it ain’t pretty, but it’s always real.

  • Ya know the French didn’t stay here for 100 years ( not as a military entity )after our WFI. They packed up, went home, or went fur trapping in Canada, or went to Waterloo….

    Petreus is no Lafayette.

  • Conservatives went quite a bit further than trying to “make Ware out to be a liberal villain”; they tried to make him out to be an alcoholic, who was so often drunk that he had trouble distinguishing fact from reality. If they could have just once seen him indulging in behaviour that would otherwise be passed off as male bonding, they would have made him out to be a homosexual as well – something that, in conservative eyes, immediately makes you incapable of rendering sound judgment on anything. Take warning, all who would oppose the conservative agenda, as well as all who think John McCain will fight a clean fight just because he has so far – this is the way the conservatives roll. Anyone who resists them is immediately a target of the most intense dirt-digging, in an effort to make you withdraw in shame, fear or humiliation. That generally works quite well against people who have to live in the same society. Against those who don’t, like, say, Ware – not so much.

  • You want to know what happens if the US leaves?, not only do all of Iraqs neighbors have plenty of armed forces to step in, it’s in their best interests to do so, and are more knowledgeable about the complex inner workings of the Iraqi players better than any US native could ever hope to know.

    It’s their neighborhood, they can take care of it.. the US isn’t the only country capable of fixing Iraq, actually the US is the WORST choice, they don’t like us. … start by googling Operation Ajax, then Iran / Contra.

    Lay the humiliating defeat at the feet of those responsible: GW Bush et al, this isn’t the USAs war, it’s his war.

  • […] that staying in Iraq “could actually ferment further resentment” towards the U.S.

    I’ve been wondering ever since I first saw the quote (on TP, last night), whether the transcript might be wrong. Ie that he actually said “foment”, rather than “ferment”. “Ferment” makes only marginal sense here…

  • Maybe he meant ferment as in the sense of brewing, simmering and growing stronger. However, I agree that “foment” would have been a much better choice.

  • I’m sure Bush will say this is yet another sign of real progress… Our illustrious ally Maliki has decided to give Sadr what he wanted:

    BAGHDAD – Iraq’s prime minister on Friday ordered a nationwide freeze on raids against suspected Shiite militants after the leader of the biggest militia complained that arrests were continuing even after he ordered fighters off the streets…

    …Al-Maliki’s move appeared to be a goodwill gesture toward al-Sadr and his followers. But it was also a dramatic turnabout: He said Thursday that he intended to launch security operations against Mahdi Army strongholds in Baghdad, including Sadr City, home to some 2.5 million Shiites and the militia’s largest base…

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080404/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

  • Any American with a loved one in the military, or any humane American simply against this illegal, criminal, war-for-profit being waged by corporate sociopaths, who looks soulfully toward the Sainted Michael Ware for “an assessment of how things really are” is a God damn sucker.

    Ware is a non-American scud stud to whom our exhausted troops mean NOTHING. His last word on the matter is STILL what it always was: “America, you cannot leave Iraq.”

    To hell with you, Michael Ware from Perth, Australia. I only wish I could respond to you, but there you are, always on my TV, far removed from lowly American comebacks, getting the ultimate Free Ride From the Press.

    Michael Ware is hand-in-glove with Dick Cheney. He is hand-in-glove with John “100 years” McCain. I hate the guy, and wish very much that I could tell him so, and discuss all this with him, right up close, in person. But no one ever gets to do that.

    BTW, he is no enemy of the Right. They quote him constantly time in their blogosphere. Handily, he exists as their “proof” that they are right. He is the chicken hawks’ special pair of celebrity/adventurer/blood-and-guts Real Dude “boots on the ground.” Everyone knows Michael Ware is an authority. And Michael Ware says, we need to stay. “Stay” as in forever, by the way. For Michael Ware, am arrogant, detestable America broke Iraq, and can by-God fix it, or die trying, to the last American troop. He could not care less about the troops. Do you think he cares about that?

    You oughta be horse-whipped, Michael.

    And please, people, can’t you try a little harder not to be taken in by the title of this article? Get the stars out of your eyes as regards Michael Ware? Quit with the auto-responses to his phony, theatrical, (and always the SAME) unshaven, sweaty, presumably “tired” face and broken nose on your TV?

    He LOOKS like one of US. He ISN’T one of us, he is one of them..

    Will you try to listen to what he’s saying, please? Michael Ware is a GDMF DECIDER! And not only getting away with it…but being lauded every G damn day!

  • libra:

    He said “ferment” because he’s NOT a smart guy, NOT an authority, but a freaking TOOL, Jack Cafferty quoting him and referring to him so respectfully is a truly sickening thing to see.

    I hope I am not fermenting a revolution with my trashy talk about this CNN hero! (Ware, I mean).

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