Confronting Obama with a ‘Farrakhan test’

Two weeks ago, the Washington Post’s Richard Cohen devoted an entire column to criticizing Barack Obama over his use of a statistic — the senator claimed that more young African-American men are in prison than in college — that Cohen insists is false. The columnist used the disputed number, and nothing else, to accuse Obama of “mendacity” and failing to “give a damn” about the truth.

It was a spectacularly dumb column, and an unusually awkward attempt at accusing a presidential candidate of dishonesty. For one thing, Cohen’s piece included obvious errors of fact and judgment. For another, a closer look at the disputed statistic about young African-American men shows that Obama may very well have been correct.

Undeterred, Cohen goes after Obama again today, with an even more ridiculous hit-job.

Barack Obama is a member of Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ. Its minister, and Obama’s spiritual adviser, is the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. In 1982, the church launched Trumpet Newsmagazine; Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor. Every year, the magazine makes awards in various categories. Last year, it gave the Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Trumpeter Award to a man it said “truly epitomized greatness.” That man is Louis Farrakhan.

Maybe for Wright and some others, Farrakhan “epitomized greatness.” For most Americans, though, Farrakhan epitomizes racism, particularly in the form of anti-Semitism….

It’s important to state right off that nothing in Obama’s record suggests he harbors anti-Semitic views or agrees with Wright when it comes to Farrakhan. Instead, as Obama’s top campaign aide, David Axelrod, points out, Obama often has said that he and his minister sometimes disagree. Farrakhan, Axelrod told me, is one of those instances.

Fine. But where I differ with Axelrod and, I assume, Obama is that praise for an anti-Semitic demagogue is not a minor difference or an intrachurch issue…. Where is his sense of outrage?

I’ve read Cohen’s piece several times now, trying to understand what possessed him to write it (and what possessed his editors to publish it). I’m at a bit of a loss.

At first blush, there’s clearly a degrees-of-separation problem. Obama belongs to a Christian church. The church has a pastor. The pastor has a daughter. The daughter helps run the church magazine. The magazine featured some praise for Louis Farrakhan last year.

Cohen sees this and insists, in his nationally-syndicated column, that Obama has a personal “obligation to speak out” — not because Obama has been connected with Farrakhan or anti-Semitism in any way, but because his church’s pastor’s daughter’s magazine said something complementary about Farrakhan.

This is utterly ridiculous and Cohen ought to be embarrassed for putting his name on such nonsense. Cohen’s been around long enough to know that he and his paper are above these kinds of attacks. Or, they’re supposed to be.

The Denunciation Game can quickly become a slippery slope. Are Roman Catholic presidential candidates expected to denounce their church’s leaders for every controversial comment or decision it’s made? Mike Huckabee is an evangelical Southern Baptist, and it wouldn’t take too long to come up with a fairly lengthy list of contentious remarks from the church’s leadership. Is it incumbent on Huckabee to disavow them all? Billy Graham has been close with the Clintons. Does Hillary have an “obligation to speak out” against some of Graham’s intemperate remarks?

No, of course not. The very suggestion is silly, and yet, it’s the basis for Cohen’s entire column.

Henry Farrell gets the broader context exactly right.

I strongly suspect that Barack Obama is being asked to condemn Louis Farrakhan not because there’s some bogus two-degrees-of-separation thing going on, but because Barack Obama is black, and because black politicians are supposed to condemn Louis Farrakhan before they can be trusted. This isn’t racism, but it’s an implicit double standard, under which black politicians have a higher hurdle to jump before they deserve public trust than white ones. More generally, this is a bad, wrongheaded, and even dangerous article. Richard Cohen shouldn’t have written it, and the Washington Post shouldn’t have printed it.

If recent history is any guide, Democratic supporters of Obama will take Cohen to task for writing inane tripe, and Democratic critics of Obama will suggest that somehow Cohen has a point.

I’d like to think we can reach a point at which Dems can just be Dems, and criticize stupidity, no matter which Democrat is the target. Cohen’s column should be Exhibit A.

Okay, I’m outraged by Farrakhan’s anti-semitic and anti-gay remarks. Will that take care of the issue for Cohen. Since pundits seem to think a surrogate speaks for a candidate then consider me an Obama surrogate.

  • you actually answered your own question – why did cohen write this tripe – at the end of your posting: he did it because he’s an idiot.

  • The way Jews use the “anti-Semitism” charge nowadays reminds me of the story of the Boy Who Cried Wolf. Perhaps they ought to consider that fact.

  • I’m neither a supporter nor critic of Obama (I prefer HRC but would be beyond happy to back Obama in the general), and I certainly criticize this stupidity.

    First, I wholly agree with what CB said — at this many degrees of separation, no politician and few of us everyday folk would be safe from scorn.

    Second, while there surely are times, moments, events that are defining tests for politicians of every stripe and generation, absent those it annoys me that politicians are not permitted to have some say in picking their own fights, that the press believes it should get to pick the fights for the politicians. If the columnists and bobble-heads are so freakin smart about what fights need fighting and how to fight them, come out from behind the desk and run for office – out yourself on the line.

    (But, Cohen, dont bother calling me, you lost my vote long, long ago)

  • Replace “The” with “Some”, Tom C, and I agree. Not all. Some.

    Cohen is a hack. Daniel Pipes is worse, but Cohen is right up there, IMO.

  • Shouldn’t someone ask King George to condemn Prescott Bush for being busted for being the last American banker to keep doing business with the Nazis?

    Hell, a grandfather is a lot closer to King Putz than a fellow Afro-American is to Barack!

  • But CB, it is well known that all minorities receive their thoughts from a central MinorityMind and so, they all have the same thoughts. Only caucasian heterosexual males are allowed to form individual opinions. On the off chance that a minority forms an opinion that differs from the MM broadcast, s/he must spend at least three hours making it clear that s/he absolutlely positively does not share those thoughts … and then someone will suggest that the minority is protesting too much.

    So, fuck Richard Cohen.

    It’s important to state right off that nothing in Obama’s record suggests he harbors anti-Semitic views or agrees with Wright when it comes to Farrakhan.

    Yeah, just like there’s nothing in Obama’s record to suggest he’s a Maddrassian Candidate who will hand us over to the Jihadists BUT

    Yawn.

  • Ah, the return of the curse of “hymie-town”…
    Cohen really despises Farrakhan (I know it was Jesse Jackson’s infelicitous phrase)
    It is my impression that, to Cohen and his ilk, all blacks folk are, always already, ‘anti-Semites’ until proven otherwise.

  • I’m still having a problem figuring out who has the highest hurdle to jump. Obama cause he’s a scary black man who may or may not be a Christian (heavens, how could one really know???), or Hillary because she’s a shrill, bitchy, automaton woman who cries a lot.

    It’s just astonishingly silly and deeply frustrating. These are two wonderfully talented and accomplished people running for the highest office in our land and they have to respond to the kindergarten crowd. But they do, and they need to do it very well.

    The fact that the Dem nominee will be either a woman or black puts us into uncharted territory. I talked to the elderly female cashier in our very rural WV supermarket last night. We started (actually she started the conversation) on the price of the gallon of milk I bought (who could have imagined it could cost so much . . . ). Moved from there to price of gas (how high can it go), and the economy in general (layoffs, unemployment, stagnant wages). Believe it or not, she was leading the conversation through all of this. I was more than a little surprised. Then she mentioned, with dismay, that we had another year of Bush, and that she was worried about the election, because so many people she knows wouldn’t vote for either a woman or a black man. I mentioned that they are both remarkably able people, she said she thought Bill Clinton was a wonderful president and that he would be most helpful for Hillary in the White House. I think that is going to be a key driver in the primary, and in the general election if the Dem nominee is Hillary. Despite the beltway CW that Bill is a drag, of course he is nothing of the kind.

    I never expected to have such a conversation with her, and was frankly stunned by how scared she is about the future. We ended talking about her childhood on a homestead with no electricity and hard times, just getting by, growing most of their own food. Saying how hard it would be for people to do that today. She’s a clear reflection of the latest polling (from TP): Seventy-nine percent of Americans “say the next president should set the nation on a new course rather than following the direction in which Bush has been leading,”

    And what does our media talk about? Meaningless trivia.

  • Democratic Socialist Manning Marable, tool of the ADL? insert, saracstic emoticon. “Farrakhan’s conservative social and economic agenda finds parallels with Larouche’s fascist program…”
    http://www.freepress.org/Backup/UnixBackup/pubhtml/manning/mmmlater.html

    Another Black Leftist on Fascist Farrakhan,
    Ebony and ivory fascists – Patrick Buchanan; Louis Farrakhan – Class Notes – Column
    Progressive, The, April, 1996 by Adolph Reed, Jr.
    Reed doesn’t take sheeit from no one either.

  • Cohen is a worthless piece of garbage who should have been terminated a long time ago. This is simply a hit piece by Cohen, as I think he has a huge crush on Bill Clinton and secretly wishes he (Cohen) was Monica Lewinsky way back when, and is secretly pushing for a Clinton presidency so that he can be in the Clenis’s presence for a few more years. That, or he is simply a Drudge wannabe.

  • She’s a clear reflection of the latest polling (from TP): Seventy-nine percent of Americans “say the next president should set the nation on a new course rather than following the direction in which Bush has been leading,”

    and that 79 percent can pound sand, because the people/interests who will select (have already selected) the next president don’t give a shaggy, corn-filled, raggedy, good GOD- DAMN about what the 79% say they believe, because the oligarchs know they can ALWAYS lead the cattle around to their thinking, at least for long enough to accomplish what they intend. It has always been so, and I see no evidence that this has changed.

  • Any CBR readers with some time and some google skills want to dig up a few two-degree embarrassments about Cohen? That would be a fun twist.

    Also, this is from today’s WaPo. . . and you can write letters to a newspaper. If anyone else wants to get these thoughts from this site to the WaPo, write a brief letter at letters@washpost.com. Be sure to follow the guidelines and, who knows, we might actually get Cohen to think about things a bit. . .

    Letters must be exclusive to The Post, must be signed and must include the writer’s home address and home and business telephone numbers. Because of space limitations, those published are subject to abridgement. Due to the number of letters we receive, we are unable to acknowledge those letters we cannot publish.

  • No, w.t.l Fakearahn really is a raving anti-Semite. And a homophobe. And there’s no need to repeat some of the shit his minions say about Asians…

    The guy is 100% dick, but saying Person X is responsible for what the child of Person Y says about Person Z is beyond stupid and reeks of desperation. I’m still waiting for some concern troll to say Obama can’t possibly be a democrat because he’s related to Cheney.

  • I agree that this is a stretch for Cohen to be making, and I do not claim to know why he thinks it worthy of an entire column, but I think the bigger picture is that whether we think we have evolved to the point where race is not – or should not be – an issue, we – the American people – are most certainly being tested, and sadly, I think we are failing.

    If someone says that we needed a president to enact sweeping civil rights legislation – a simple truth that was not intended to demean the contribution of MLK, but to highlight how rhetoric and action need to work together to get important things accomplished – and the argument over what that “really” meant is still alive 10 days later, what does that say about our ability to be race-neutral? When we cannot make references to someone’s relative age without someone thinking it edged too close to the legacy of grown black men being called “boy,” when a white man cannot use the phrase “shuck and jive” without being accused of sending negative racial signals, how can we possibly think that we have made the kind of mental and emotional progress on issues of race we thought we had?

    I think that we are going to be taking this test for many months to come, and the questions I have are whether, when all is said and done, we will be better for it or worse? Will we be able to come out on the other side with both a better understanding of what race means, and the Oval Office, and will we have to elect a black man in order to prove that we have reached that understanding? Or – will we be able to elect a woman, or even “another” white man in the person of John Edwards, and still be able to claim that we passed the test?

    Or, will we still be slugging it out when John McCain is taking the oath of office?

  • Any CBR readers with some time and some google skills want to dig up a few two-degree embarrassments about Cohen? That would be a fun twist.

    That’s too easy. Cohen writes a column for the Post. Jonah Goldberg has written for the Post. Goldberg has written a book that (among other things) compares the civil rights movement to fascist movements.

    Therefore Cohen had better issue an apology!

  • The only consolation about Cohen’s endless inanity and hackery is that everyone knows he’s an inane hack. He’s almost a parodic cliche of the liberal asshat: obsessed with minutiae, given to hiding his claws under a glove of solicitous concern, and of course always ready to shiv his allies while making excuses for his enemies.

    Fuck him.

  • I wonder if Cohen’s Rabbi has any kids who ever supported anyone who said something offensive that Cohen hasn’t denounced?

    What a load of crap. Does it help to take anti-antisemitism this far? No.

    BTW, Cohen himself has been accused of being a “self-hating Jew”. He got a TON of hate mail for writing the following in 2006:

    The greatest mistake Israel could make at the moment is to forget that Israel itself is a mistake. It is an honest mistake, a well-intentioned mistake, a mistake for which no one is culpable, but the idea of creating a nation of European Jews in an area of Arab Muslims (and some Christians) has produced a century of warfare and terrorism of the sort we are seeing now. Israel fights Hezbollah in the north and Hamas in the south, but its most formidable enemy is history itself…

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/07/17/AR2006071701154.html

    I have to say the guy is brave for saying that, and because he did I say we can cut him a little bit of slack.

  • This isn’t racism, but it’s an implicit double standard, under which black politicians have a higher hurdle to jump before they deserve public trust than white ones.
    Really? An implicit double standard based on race isn’t racism?

  • You know what Cohen told me! That McCain reads Time magazine! And they named Vladimir Putin as Person of the Year in 2007!

    Where’s the outrage!?

  • M.J. Rosenberg, at today’s TPMCafe:

    On Friday, when I wrote about the Jewish community being inundated with anti-Obama fear-mongering, some people at TPM expressed doubt. I was even excused of making it up.

    Five days later, few Jews active in the community have not received calls or e-mails telling them that Obama is a threat to the Jews.

    The latest charge is that the minister of Obama’s church publishes a magazine that honored Louis Farrakhan.

    Farrakhan! Honestly, I thought he had died. It turns out he is alive but seriously ill and inactive. He is not exactly a threat to anybody right now.

    Nonetheless, the whispers about Obama go like this. “You know, Obama’s minister is a big Farrakhan supporter.” “He’s also Muslim, or half Muslim.” “He studied in a madrassa.” “And he’s very anti-Israel.”

    No one knows if any campaign is behind these charges. According to the informative analysis and poll by Shmuel Rosner in Ha’aretz, the right-wing of the Jewish community does not like Obama and strongly favors Giuliani and Clinton because of their hardline stances on Israel.

    But I don’t think any campaign is behind this round of swiftboating because it bears all the markings of the Jewish far right, the camp that cheered Rabin’s assassination. Nevertheless, the smears will have an effect, regardless of its origins. It will be felt on Super Tuesday when hundreds of thousands of Jews vote in New York, California, and elsewhere.

    It’s pretty ugly and today columnist Richard Cohen is taking it mainstream. Check out his column in the Washington Post. He shares the story of Obama’s Farrakhan-admiring minister and sounds the alarms to Jews everywhere. He demands Obama repudiate the pastor. What idiocy!

    Back in 2002, on Yom Kippur, the visiting rabbi at my congregation (he comes every year from Israel) delivered a sermon calling for hatred of Muslims. Citing the Biblical verse, he said, “there is a time for love and a time for hate. This is the time for hate.”

    From there, he stormed and wept out his hatred of Palestinians. It was amazing!

    (In his defense, the rabbi may have been trying to appease Charles Krauthammer. The previous year, right after 9/11, the same rabbi gave a sermon urging that we make distinctions among Muslims, Arabs, etc. Krauthammer, sitting in his wheelchair in the aisle, started bellowing at the rabbi for not recognizing pure evil. It totally disrupted the service, although it was one of the few not boring moments I have experienced in a house of worship).

    In any case, I have not been back to my synagogue on the High Holy Days since, because Rabbi Hater is still there for the holidays. But I didn’t use my bully pulpit to repudiate him. Why should I? No one would imagine that he speaks for me? Nor does Obama’s minister speak for him.

    Cohen must know that but, in his dotage, he has descended into Ed Koch/Jackie Mason land where the Cossacks are always at the gates. Tthis column will be circulated widely and will hurt Obama, perhaps badly.

    Richard Cohen was once a liberal. He often invokes civil rights activists Mickey Schwerner and Andy Goodman (who were murdered in Mississippi along with their African-American friend, James Chaney in 1964). .

    Does Cohen not understand that these two Jewish boys died in pursuit of a dream that Barack Obama embodies? Does he think Goodman and Schwerner would want the first viable black candidate for President in our history to be smeared because of something his minister did? Would they want him libeled because he is not a hawk when it comes to West Bank settlements?

    The answers are obvious. Cohen should be ashamed. But, rest assured, none of the people involved in the race-baiting of Barack Obama are capable of it.

  • Cohen ought to be embarrassed for putting his name on such nonsense. Cohen’s been around long enough to know that he and his paper are above these kinds of attacks.

    Bob Somerby just choked;>

  • Michael (#5) – you are entirely right. I think the M.J. Rosenberg piece above perfectly describes what I was thinking of in my earlier post. (which is why I posted it)

  • The greatest mistake here is to accept the notion that Cohen is a “liberal.” While many of his writings do lean to the Left, he has demonstrated a clear desire to be a “token liberal” (lower-case “L” intended) for the conservative movement in the United States.

    Also, to view his reaction to supposedly-veiled anti-SAmitism is to refuse acknowledgement that this man once argued that “Israel was a mistake.” He will only play the “Semite Card” when it benefits him, and serves to further his ultimate goal—which in this case, is to portray a front-tier contender for the Democratic nomination in a derogatory manner. Obama is no more pro-Farrakhan than Cohen himself is—perhaps even less so, an Obama has no need for the Nation of Islam in his tool kit (as Cohen obviously does by his most recent screed).

    I’m willing to go out on a limb and suggest that, rather than this being another “unauthorized Hillary surrogate” (which could also be the case), Cohen is floating a “trial balloon” for the GOP—just in case Obama gets that nomination….

  • Cohen is employed by the Washington Post…
    Judith Miller was employed by the Washington Post…
    Judith Miller was a shill of the Bush admin…

    Therefore, Cohen is a shill of the Bush admin…

    Is this not the logic that he used in that article?

  • Just a Thought

    Who do you figure pitched Richard Cohen on the Obama/Farrakhan column?

    –Josh Marshal

    What? What’s the innuendo? I suspect Cohen can come up with this crap on his own.

  • Anne: and will we have to elect a black man in order to prove that we have reached that understanding?

    Don’t worry that.
    Obama has been effectively destroyed.

    The Clinton machine has got two widely different successful black men today saying:

    1) He is too perfect.
    2) He is stupid.

    Tightening the vice for sure. There is no where for him to run… but down.
    The race card was played following the gender card. They’ve effectively killed him.

    If he doesn’t win Nevada it is for sure over.
    The early play of the race card, of course, successfully marginalizes any victory of his in South Carolina. So there won’t be any bumps going into Super Tuesday.

    Nope. Don’t worry your agonizing liberal heart over that one Anne…
    This election is over.

  • #33,

    What a pessimist.

    If Obama can be taken down that easily, then he wasn’t going to defeat the Republican’ts in November.

    God, I hope we have a better country than that, but you sure aren’t helping.

  • Tom, I’ve noticed a disconcerting theme in many of your posts on CB, regarding Jewish views. As Michael @5 stated,

    “Replace “The” with “Some”, Tom C, and I agree. Not all. Some.”

    MOST Jews in the US are as moderate in their views about Israel as any other group of “thinking” Americans. A few – very few, actually – do favor the Neo-Con view of American foreign policy. I really find it despicable that as an American Jew, I have to point this out to other “liberal” commentators on this blog that ALL Jews are NOT Neo-cons.

    Tom, I visited your site a few months ago, where you describe yourself as having the names of three long-time Americans as your ancestry. Well, that’s all well and good, but I would hope you give the benefit of the doubt to people – from where ever they emigrated and when – who are just as “American” in their views and values as you are.

  • If Obama can survive the onslaught of negativity from those who feel threatened by him, he’s got a decent shot in November. What the dems and token dems are throwing at him calls to mind, ‘With friends like this, who needs enemies.” I’m disappointed at the negative angle these primaries have taken. Let’s get back to the issues.

  • Cohen sees this and insists, in his nationally-syndicated column, that Obama has a personal “obligation to speak out” — not because Obama has been connected with Farrakhan or anti-Semitism in any way, but because his church’s pastor’s daughter’s magazine said something complementary about Farrakhan.

    Well, it’s really his church’s magazine, if you want to be honest about this one.

    I would let Obama get away with this one. He’s already said he disagrees with his minister on some things (not that he even needs to say it), and almost every person disagrees with their pastor, minister, priest, psychologist, or rabbi about something. Is everyone responsible for everything their spiritual or psychological guide believes that could offend a liberal?

    However, I think someone in Obama’s community should start a new church, or Obama’s minister should do some soul-searching and consider publicly renouncing his views on Farrakhan. What if I, as a white person, was running for public office, and I belonged to a Catholic congregation which put out a magazine that ran an article two years ago that said Hitler epitomized greatness, or the the Pope who was the Pope while Nazi Germany was around and who kind of acquiesed to them epitomized greatness, or that the founder of the Ku Klux Klan epitomized greatness? People wouldn’t stand for it.

    There’s no way Farrakhan can really cute his way out of being a really nasty racist. It’s there, people know about it. African Americans may resent the material wealth and success that Jews have amassed in this country, but that really isn’t a Christian attitude, and it doesn’t excuse this kind of nasty racism. Don’t African Americans think it’s unjust when people resent African Americans for being successful?

  • Wait, we mean this Richard Cohen? Hurling bolts from Mount Holier Than Thou?

    [W]hen Mr. Cohen himself was accused of engaging in “inappropriate behavior” toward Devon Spurgeon, a 23-year-old editorial aide at the paper, Post management went into its own form of crisis mode: Staff members are forbidden to discuss the matter, the participants in the dispute have been frozen out by superiors, and Post executive editor Leonard Downie Jr. is refusing to comment. The episode has increased tensions between the sexes at the paper, Post staff members have said, and has exposed a rift between a salty old guard and younger colleagues grappling with the complicated issues of interoffice gender politics.
    … Staff members said Ms. Spurgeon and Mr. Cohen clashed soon after his arrival in New York. Ms. Spurgeon’s post was quasi-clerical; she was given spot news assignments but was also expected to monitor the office fax machine and telephones. She made no secret of her journalistic ambitions, fellow staff members said, to the occasional detriment of her lesser duties. This, they said, seemed to annoy Mr. Cohen enough that he upbraided her from time to time, making reference to his connections to Post higher-ups in Washington in a way that Ms. Spurgeon read as an implicit threat to her job security.

    Despite his displeasure with Ms. Spurgeon’s job performance, Mr. Cohen seems to have sought out her opinion on matters relevant to his column. After reading a Lewinsky-related article that referred to oral sex as “casual sex,” Mr. Cohen engaged Ms. Spurgeon in a discussion on the subject that other staff members found offensive. Staff members said that Mr. Cohen sometimes used foul language in the office and that he remarked on Ms. Spurgeon’s appearance, telling her she “looked good in black,” according to a Post staff member. On another occasion, the staff member said, Mr. Cohen asked Ms. Spurgeon to “stand up and turn around.”

    Just reading that makes me want to shower.

  • Phoebes, you said pretty much exactly what I was going to say in response to Tom’s comment. I, too, am a proud Jewish citizen of the United States, and I dare say, the vast MAJORITY of us are proponents of social justice and compassion. For every Joe Lieberman, I’d bet there are about three Russ Feingolds, Paul Wellstones, John Yarmuths, or Steve Kagens. It is precisely BECAUSE we have suffered ourselves that we have a historical pattern of extending compassion to other persecuted groups, and standing up for the disenfranchised. Pointing out legitimate anti-Semitism is not “crying wolf.” Neither is pointing out legitimate racism, sexism, homophobia, or any other type of discrimination.

    Regarding the Richard Cohen piece . . . that guy is just an embarrassment. Yet another reminder of the fact that the media ultimately control our elections. The media will trot out anything to make a good story, and the idiotic couch-potato-infested American public will eat it up along with their ho-hos and cheezy-puffs. Witness the following:

    /begin sarcasm/ Gore invented the Internet, discovered Love Canal, claimed to be the inspiration for the film _Love Story_, and rolled his eyes at that nice, fun-lovin’ rascal from Texas– how horrible! Gasp! John Kerry uses Botox, has long fingernails, and hugs his VP too much– that mischievous guy from Texas is so much better! And now this– Barack Obama is a secret Muslim, knows someone who knows someone who likes Farrakhan, and plays the race card to bait Hillary Clinton! And his ears are funny, to boot! All hail President McCain! /end sarcasm/

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr . . .

  • What if I, as a white person, was running for public office, and I belonged to a Catholic congregation which put out a magazine that ran an article two years ago that said Hitler epitomized greatness, or the the Pope who was the Pope while Nazi Germany was around and who kind of acquiesed to them epitomized greatness, or that the founder of the Ku Klux Klan epitomized greatness? -Rudy

    Well, the current Pope was a member of the Hitler Youth, and as a Catholic you’re beholden to a religious entity hostile to women’s rights that is based outside of the US, so that pretty much means you’re not getting my vote to begin with, but that’s for another thread.

    To the point, let’s not conflate Farrakhan with Hitler, please. Aren’t their internet laws against this sort of thing?

  • jzamdag…

    Agreed. But I don’t think he will survive.
    The momentum of these early primaries are super critical heading into Super Tuesday.

    The beauty of having a hubby that was once president is that you have all sorts of favors owed you.
    (Reason #1: Why any decent American should loathe presidential dynasties.)
    Johnson and Rangel’s favors got called due today.
    Hats off to the Clintons: It was the perfect time to “not” play the race card.

    These four primaries are utterly essential.
    Everyone knows that.
    Worth crying for in fact…
    So suppose:
    She wins Nevada. He wins S. Carolina.
    But S. Carolina doesn’t count because obviously: Obama got that win by playing the race card.
    So Hillary has the momentum going into Super Tuesday… and…
    More favors due her.

    Nope. Sorry. Can’t see it happening.
    But then I am the guy that said 3 years ago that it was going to be Clinton/McCain and that McCain would win by a Ohio or a Florida.

    For now, I am going out on the line and calling the primaries for Clinton.
    I am feeling pretty optimistic that I got it right.

  • Bill Kristol, Richard Cohen–not much difference. And I’m not a Obama supporter.

  • That’s exactly the point, jzamdag– Obama did NOT play the race card. But the MEDIA says he did, and the Clinton campaign is jumping all over it, so, good heavens, it must be true! You know how it is– the Bush thugs proved that if you repeat anything often enough, it becomes ingrained as “truth.”

  • Gee, I sure hope no one thinks I agree with everything my pastor says. Or everything his daughters say. Or do I have to go around telling everyone “For the record, I don’t necessarily agree with what my pastor, his daughters, our church council, or anyone in the church says.”

    This Cohen column is a load of cr*p. For all we know, Obama could have addressed this matter privately. And I can’t believe that anyone who has heard Obama speak thinks he agrees with the newsletter article.

  • Re #45,

    Nah, you just have to condemn Louis Farrakhan. And avoid saying “I don’t agree with my pastor when he says Farrakhan “truly epitomized greatness.” ”

    I once heard a Muslim woman on a stage ask “Do I have to condemn Islamic Terrorism against Israel every time I speak in public?”

    My answer would be, yes.

  • “It’s important to state right off that nothing in Obama’s record suggests he harbors anti-Semitic views…” Cohen

    … but I will write a column in a major newspaper that attempts to leave you with the impression that he does!

  • ANOTHER FAIRY TALE
    Imagine..that the press discovered Hillary (or John, or George, or..) was a member of a “white only” church that believed in white supremacy and was “Caucasian-centric” , Suppose this Church has as its central creed-“We are a congregation which is unashamedly white and unapologetically Christian,” says the Trinity United Church of Christ’s Web site, www. tucc.org.. “We are an White people and remain true to our native land, white Europe, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.”
    Moreover, suppose this church has a “non-negotiable commitment to A White America,” according to its Web site, and the church and its pastor subscribe to what is called the White Caucasian Value System.

    What an outrage!!! That would finish a white candidate… he/she would be called racist, etc. YET Obama belongs to and is an active member of just such a church, except change “White” to “Black” and “Europe” to “Africa”. He may not agree with EVERYTHING his Church and his Pastor, Rev Jeremiah Wright says (and Wright is just as racist and anti-Jewish as Farrakhan (e.g., “Wright explained: “When [Obama’s] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli” to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, “a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell.” ), but he believes enough of this crap so that he has stayed a close friend and mentor of Pastor Wright , and a member of the church , for 18 years, including getting married and having his children baptized there… It is not Farrakhan that should concern us, but the beliefs of his church and Pastor, that he basically endorses and agrees with, or he would not have stayed a member – go the Church’s website, http://www.tucc.org, and see for yourself. IF OBAMA DOES NOT SUBSCRIBE TO THESE RACIST, SEPARATIST, BLACK SUPREMACY BELIEFS, THEN HE SHOULD PUBLICLY DISAVOW THEM AND LEAVE THAT CHURCH. He cannot be a “Unifier” with any of these racist, separatist beliefs.This is a man that believes ” race should not be a factor”. BS!!! How can we believe anything this man says if he lies about his core beliefs? It like a white candidate saying” yes, I’m a member of the KKK, but I do not believe everything they say”

  • I once heard a Muslim woman on a stage ask “Do I have to condemn Islamic Terrorism against Israel every time I speak in public?”

    My answer would be, yes

    WTF are you smoking? I doubt you expect John Kerry to condemn the RCC’s habit of aiding and abetting pedophiles everytime he speaks in public. Maybe your requirement only applies to Muslims, in which case Congressman Keith Ellison needs to issue a statement everytime he wants to take the floor.

  • Pretty lame when you have to go to complimentary remarks made by a magazine ran by your minister’s daughter. If this is the best dirt you can dig up you need to think about a career change.

    Stick to the issues and I might read your column. Write a column similar to one I would find in The Star tabloid and it will stay where it belongs on the retailers shelf.

  • Let’s face it, these days an anti-Semite is anyone who ever pissed someone off at the New Republic. Obama should ignore Cohen’s harangue.

  • Hey – would you people who are criticizing me look at the post I put up here from M.J. Rosenberg? That is what I agree with, not what you think I agree with.

    Shoot me for the grammatical error if you want, but take note I corrected myself. On my own.

  • Two additional items have happened since Steve wrote this post.

    Obama has denounced Farrakhan’s views and stated he does not agree with Wright with regards to Farrakhan.

    Several Jewish groups have made it clear they do not accept Cohen’s claims of anti-Semitism and have defended Obama. The attacks on Obama were even distributed in Hebrew.

    I have posted further on this at Liberal Values:

    http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2717

  • Cohen’s article was a bit over the top. However, since Farrackhan has offended so many non people of color, especially Jews, he has made himself a lightening rod. I believe the point that Mr. Obama does not control his pastor’s daughter’s editorial actions is well taken. However, a stronger statement relative to Farrakhans non-inclusive history and explosive rhetoric would clear any shadows that may have arisen, whether justified or not. Americans hold our leaders up to a higher standard in that regard, and should!

    We all need to know where our leaders stand relative to this style of ombudsmanshsip for everyone, not just of color. It is not necessary to “to blow out the others candle to make yours shine more brightly”. We have come much too far and too long for that.

    Thank you.

    TCL

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