Congressional Republicans feeling antsy about the war

Last week, NBC reported rumors that several Republican senators are prepared to “pull the plug” on the war in August unless there’s “real progress.” This week, House Republicans are looking kind of antsy, too.

A diverse collection of House Republicans has formed an ad hoc group to negotiate with the White House on a compromise Iraq spending bill, Politico’s Ryan Grim reports. The group plans to hold talks with National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, who has been working behind the scenes to cement opposition among Republicans to the spending bill that would require U.S. troops to withdraw from Iraq at some point.

The group includes five Republicans, diverse in geography and ideology: Reps. Pete Hoekstra of Michigan, Charles Boustany of Louisiana, Jeff Fortenberry of Nebraska, Mac Thornberry of Texas and Wayne Gilchrest of Maryland. Of the five, only Gilchrest broke with his party to support a timeline for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq.

Now, Gilchrest says the group will encourage the White House to compromise on negotiations with Syria and Iran and on setting a date for withdrawal from Iraq. And the group has national security bona fides that will help it be taken seriously.

Taken seriously by whom? The Bush White House? Please. Raise your hand if you expect Bush, Cheney, and Rove to entertain the suggestions of Republican lawmakers who want to see the president negotiate with Democrats before a veto. Yesterday, Bush said he’s willing to berate Dem lawmakers, but isn’t willing to listen to them. It’s safe to assume he doesn’t care what Gilchrest thinks. At least not yet.

Nevertheless, that five high-ranking House Republicans are involved with a behind-the-scenes push seems significant. Indeed, Gilchrest seems to accept the basic Democratic premise: “The president needs to let the Iraqis know we won’t be there forever.”

Forget conference committees, vetoes, benchmarks, and money — this is what the entire debate comes down to.

Indeed, this is the odd funding debate in which both sides already agree to spend the exact same amount of money on the exact same things. With money off the table, we move on to the real issue.

The president and his unwavering allies believe the war in Iraq must be open-ended. No timelines, no enforced benchmarks, no exit strategy. When Iraq can govern, sustain, and defend itself, they’ll think about bringing the troops home. When might that be? They don’t know, and frankly, don’t care. It doesn’t matter when; it matters how.

These five Republicans — not a moderate in the bunch — seem to realize this is folly. And, apparently, they’re feeling the political heat. The fact that they’re going to the White House and saying, “Hey guys, how about a little flexibility here?” points to a potential problem for the president — they’re the first cracks in the dam.

These five no longer want an open-ended commitment. If these five represent a larger group of Republicans on the Hill, the cracks in the dam could burst.

To be sure, this may not matter in the very short term. Congress will send Bush funding for the troops and Bush will veto it. If Dems can stick together, Republicans will be on the spot — stand with the unpopular president in support of a war with no end or open the door to ending the war. In March, they backed Bush. In April, they seem to be hedging.

Time will tell how this plays out, and I’m not naive enough to think there might actually be a veto-proof majority in the works. But if the veto causes a stalemate, and a large contingent of conservative Republicans start publicly calling for some kind of withdrawal timeline, the landscape will favor the Dems.

Stay tuned.

“And the group has national security bona fides that will help it be taken seriously.” Exactly–taken serious by whom. My guess is that these five asshats have voted 99-100% of the time in support of Bush on war-related issues from the getgo. They are just as soiled by this war and the decisions made surrounding the selling and operations of this war that they should not be taken seriously on national security by anyone. They now see the numbers and they know what is going to happen in 2008 if they continue on the same path. They have a choice–join the Dems, or stick with the president. The Dems should not back down. Put these five (plus the others) on the spot. No mercy, as the Dems are doing the will of the American people (and have done so in a compromise fashion to boot). That ain’t politics, that is their job.

If they are truly serious about helping the country, these 5 will bring articles of impeachment against Bush/Cheney. We know they have experience in that regard, which should help them be taken seriously.

  • Republican lawmakers are taken seriously by the White House – but only as long as they are rubber-stamping slaves. If they dare to deviate an inch, they will be summarily ‘Matthew Dowd-ed’…

  • Saveur qui peut!

    I hear the rats leaving the ship (especially the big smelly Koekstra.)

    Stupid Song parody of Branded (Repub Style)
    All but one man gone,
    There at Washington,
    And they say he ran away …

    Branded!
    Marked with a party’s name.
    What do you do when you’re branded,
    Will you fight to stay in the game?

    He wasn’t innocent,
    Not a point was true,
    As the world forever knows …

    Branded!
    Scorned as a loyal R.
    What do you do when you’re branded,
    And you know you’re Spam?

    And wherever you go
    for the rest of your life
    You must prove …
    You’re a man!

  • As the clock ticks ever closer to the 08 elections, Republicans willing to write Bush a blank check will become an endangered species.

  • The “war” is irrelevant. The Bush Crime Family and the neocons want an empire to rule (and rob of its oil money), and Iraq is but the beachhead for establishing that empire.

    “Real progress”, to them at this point, is having the Carliye Group sell arms to all involved on all sides of the conflict while bilking the US taxpayer to pay billions every week to destroy and rebuild (through Halliburton) facilities. When I lived in San Francisco I was in a music group which used to perform in bars. One our most requested songs was “My God How The Money Rolls In”, a version of which is here (to the tune of “My Bonnie Lies Over the Ocean”). Maybe Former Dan could provide some new verses.

  • that would be dam, of course.

    when push comes to shove, the 21st century gop has voted its authoritarian instincts; will it finally change? i’m dubious.

  • our troops will come home only when the new American embassy (the sizeof two football fields) and the permanent bases are finished. period

  • Raise your hand if you expect Bush, Cheney, and Rove to entertain the suggestions of Republican lawmakers who want to see the president negotiate with Democrats before a veto.

    Oh, me, me! It’s Easter Bunny time, and I believe! Hallelujah!

  • “The Gloria Patri of the Church of the Blessed Neocon.”

    Glory be to the Cheney,
    And to the Bush,
    And to the Holy Rove!
    As it was in Dubya’s wet dream,
    ‘Tis now and ever shall be!
    War without end!
    Amen!
    Amen!

    To hell with passing the popcorn. Get me a mallet and some wooden stakes….

  • Wow. An accountability moment is coming for all the Republicans that enabled this disaster and now they are finding religion and trying to get back to the right side of history. We should have accountability moments more often.

  • I think they’re more anxious than they let on already. They see the poll numbers, and the trend is NOT their friend.

    They are crapping their pants.

  • “they’re the first cracks in the damn.”

    It’s impossible to talk about what the assholes in the White House have done to our country without cursing, isn’t it.

  • Republican lawmakers still haven’t clued in that Bush doesn’t care about them – he only ever cared about congressional Republicans as long as they could do something for him. Now that Republicans won’t control Congress for the rest of his administration he doesn’t find them useful. Add to that the fact that once he is out of DC, he will go back to Texas and be constantly cutting back the brush. He doesn’t care about what happens to any of his messes once he is out of office and he doesn’t have to worry about getting elected for anything ever again. Nor does he care that they do.

    When will people on the right understand. For Bush and Rove, loyalty and benefits flow one way and it isn’t to their advantage.

  • It would be awesome if they could pull together a veto proof majority and I don’ think it is out of the question if the Dems don’t cave. It is an accountability moment for the Re-thugs in Congress, and if we had an honest press we would not hear so much Imus, and a lot more about Bush-world and the corruption and death it has brought us.

    PS: to Ed Stephan: loved the song; it brought back memories

  • “they’re the first cracks in the damn.”

    Actually, I kind of like it that way. Only I would phrase it, “they’re the first cracks in the……damn!!” 🙂

  • BY the time the ’08 elections roll around, this occupation will be 5.5 yrs old…….any wonder the Republican scum in Congress want to at least be seen as trying to change things?

    It’s hard to believe in this country, treason and war profiteering were once hangable offenses!

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