Corn counters crazy Kristol

Over the weekend, William Kristol wrote a transparently ridiculous WaPo column praising Bush’s presidency. He began his love letter, “I suppose I’ll merely expose myself to harmless ridicule if I make the following assertion: George W. Bush’s presidency will probably be a successful one.” And sure enough, Kristol was ridiculed relentlessly by those who’ve been conscious over the last six years.

But The Nation’s David Corn’s response was particularly good.

Who knew Bill Kristol had such a flair for satire? How else to read his piece for Outlook on Sunday, in which he declared, “George W. Bush’s presidency will probably be a successful one”? Surely Kristol, the No. 1 cheerleader for the Iraq war, was mocking himself (and his neoconservative pals) for having been so mistaken about so much. But just in case his article was meant to be a serious stab at commentary, let’s review Kristol’s record as a prognosticator.

On Sept. 18, 2002, he declared that a war in Iraq “could have terrifically good effects throughout the Middle East.” A day later, he said Saddam Hussein was “past the finish line” in developing nuclear weapons. On Feb. 20, 2003, he said of Saddam: “He’s got weapons of mass destruction…. Look, if we free the people of Iraq we will be respected in the Arab world.” On March 1, 2003 — 18 days before the invasion of Iraq — Kristol dismissed the possibility of sectarian conflict afterward. He also said, “Very few wars in American history were prepared better or more thoroughly than this one by this president.” He maintained that the war would cost $100 billion to $200 billion. (The running tab is now about half a trillion dollars.) On March 5, 2003, Kristol said, “We’ll be vindicated when we discover the weapons of mass destruction.”

After a performance like this — and the above is only a partial review; for more details, click here — Kristol, a likeable fellow, ought to have his pundit’s license yanked. But he’s back again with a sequel: W. will be seen as a wonderful president. His latest efforts should be laughed off op-ed pages. But in the commentariat, he’s still taken seriously.

From there, Corn surgically takes Kristol’s nonsense apart, point by point.

But this observation about Kristol’s record is important, not just because it’s amusing (though it is), but also because it speaks to a larger trend.

We’re still engaged in a major national debate about Iraq. If polls are any indication, one side is clearly winning that debate, but both sides are capable of articulating policies with which reasonable people can disagree:

* Get out of Iraq, the sooner the better — The war is a disaster and our continued presence in Iraq is making things worse. For the sake of our national security, we need to get the troops out.

* Keep the troops in, indefinitely — There have been problems in Iraq, but if we withdraw, conditions will deteriorate further.

The problem, which is widely understood but rarely stated, is that those arguing the latter point have been wrong. About everything. Literally.

Every challenge, every question, every assumption, every prediction — Kristol has been completely wrong. So has Dick Cheney, Joe Lieberman, and the vast majority of Republican members of Congress.

Now, just because someone has been wrong 100 times out of 100 tests doesn’t necessarily mean that he or she will get the 101st one wrong, too. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

But it’s worth keeping this in mind because we’re not engaged in a debate in which both sides have equal credibility. War supporters were spectacularly wrong before the war, they were equally wrong during the war, and now they believe their perspective should be taken seriously about the future of the war.

I’m not sure why.

Cheney, Kristol, and Lieberman are today’s Three Stooges of governance; they’ve gotten so many things wrong, how could there be any doubt about these neo-cons being morons!

May I express my remorse if I offended any fans of those legends of comedy, the Three Stooges.

  • Of the two, Corn’s is the narrative that reflects real history. Kristol’s is filled with denial and apology – not two qualities of a sane narrative for anyone. As to Kristol’s state of mind, I just think he’s a fruitcake. Too bad, though, he is a dangerous fruitcake. -Kevo

  • I am old enough to remember Kristol as a comedian. Over time, he has evolved into a sad joke. These people who speak lies against the obvious truth put me in mind of Hitler’s Germany. Their philosophy was simple, say anything long enough, and people will believe it. Fox Noise is a very good example of this sick and growing pattern. the Bush administration has been using it without end since 2000. Finally, people are waking up, and I only hope it isn’t too late.

    If people stop reading, listening and watching idiots like Kristol, Limbaugh, coulter, savage, etc., they will lose their corporate sponsors and go away.
    In the late 1940’s – early 1950’s a hatemonger named Father Coughlin captured public interest for quite a while. Once he was unmasked, people dropped him, and he disappeared. Hatemongers will always be around. The mistake is giving press to any of their horrid ideas.

  • If Bill Kristol is a broken clock that’s right twice a day, then this has been a very long day. But in reality, he acts more like a clock that doesn’t like what time it is, and so he tells you what time he wishes it was, or what time it is in pundit la-la land, where time is measured in Friedman Units. We shouldn’t even worry about what time it is, we’re just commoners and the beltway pundits will tell us what time it is, no matter what time it looks like it might be. The world is flat and we’re making progress in Iraq and Bush is not a loser.

    War supporters were spectacularly wrong before the war, they were equally wrong during the war, and now they believe their perspective should be taken seriously about the future of the war.

    I’m not sure why.

    Because their corporate media overlords want us to take the neocon position seriously, even though they’ve NEVER been right about ANYTHING.

    That article was the best neocon smackdown yet, and a damning indictment of our corporate criminal media.

  • “Now, just because someone has been wrong 100 times out of 100 tests doesn’t necessarily mean that he or she will get the 101st one wrong, too. Even a broken clock is right twice a day.”

    Not if it’s a digital clock.

  • Alternative title: Corn Holes Kristol.

    Sorry.

    In Krissy’s world, as the deck of the Titanic edged towards the vertical, people plummeting towards the water thought: One day people will look back and say this was a delightful voyage!

    The only way BushBrat’s pResidency will be seen as “successful” is in comparison and that would require something comprably worse than Bush in office. I won’t say the electoral college would never put a kitten-eating, neo-Nazi serial killer in the White House, but it would surpise even me.

    Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

    A true story: I have a watch that started running backwards after I dropped it. I still have it and and check it occasionally. That was over ten years ago and it has never been right since. The Neo-Con Rah-Rah Squad is that watch. They’ve never been right, they’ll never be right, but they keep ticking along, oblivious to the fact they are useless.

  • I have managed to use the track record arguement with an acquaintance who is a vociferous war supporter. He doesn’t argue with me anymore becasue every time he states his RNC approved talking points “If we pull out, they will follow us” I point out he has been wrong about everything so far. He can’t disagree as he has finally had to give up the everything is going great in IRAQ line.

  • Marilyn @ #3 — Are you referring to comedian Billy Crystal? Bill Kristol has only performed as a clown in the NeoCon Circus as far as I know.

  • I think you may be confusing William the Bloody with Billy Crystal the comedian, Marilyn, just for the record. 🙂

    Frankly, every time I see Willy on TV I’m struck by how waxy and pale he looks, more like a mannequin than an actual person. Could he be a mere android regurgitating whatever he’s programmed to say by his neocon masters? That would sure explain a lot.

  • 6: assuming your (analog) watch was right before you dropped it, and that it runs backward at the same speed it formerly ran forward, it will be right four times a day: at the time you dropped it, and six hours from that time, AM and PM. Even if it runs backward at a different speed, it has to cross the real time at some point.

    In fact…a clock running forward at the wrong speed will always be right occasionally, because it will overtake (or be overtaken by) an accurate clock from time to time.

    Only a clock that runs forward at the correct speed, but is set to the wrong time, will be wrong 100% of the time.

    The analogy holds up well, however. People who reason in rigorously correct fashion from incorrect assumptions will be consistently wrong. People who are just completely crazy (backwards clocks, or clocks running at the wrong speed) hit on something right once in a while, and that’s tragic, because it convinces them that they’re capable of being right…and that their reasoning is sensible, instead of loony.

  • Notice William “the crack head” Kristol’s prescription for a Republican president to be elected in 2008:

    …one great advantage of the current partisan squabbling in Washington is that while it hurts Bush, it also damages the popularity of the Democratic Congress– where both Clinton and Obama serve. A little mutual assured destruction between the Bush administration and Congress could leave the Republican nominee, who will most likely have no affiliation with either, in decent shape…

    Got that? He says Bush should engage in “mutual assured destruction” so that Clinton and Obama will lose popularity relative to Fred thompson or whichever creep the GOP pick. Who cares if the country needs Bush to work with the majority party. Screw you, America, I’m William Kristol and I want my tax cut made permanent.

    Obviously Kristol is delusional if he thinks the Republican nominee won’t be “affiliated” with Bush. But actually advocating “partisan squabbling” as a strategy is the act of a desperate, childish political hack.

    IMO Kristol and the other banshees are just getting started on their renditions of the Death Spiral Blues. As the jaws of 2008 close around the throat of the whole Republican Criminal Enterprise, they will scream out lunacy that will make Kristol’s latest rant appear lucid by comparison.

    If The Pundit Who’s Always Wrong says he likes the odds of electing a Republican president in 2008, I think we know where the smart money is.

  • In the interest of correct cliches: It is a stopped, not broken, clock that is right (guaranteed) twice a day.

  • You would think these people would be terminally embarrassed by their mindless pursuit and defense of an ideology that clearly doesn’t work. What’s really scary is that they’re dispensible pawns in a marketing campaign that continues unabated. The control of this country by the obscenely wealthy and the corporate elites shows no sign of ending. We’re still being homogenized into gullible consumers and cloned into “McAmericans” and there will be other Kristol-like diversions to distract our attention from that agenda.

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