Crackpot ‘ark-eologists’ find more big rocks

Guest Post by Morbo

I signed up to get e-mail alerts from several religious right groups just to see what these organizations are up to. I never expected it to be so entertaining.

Every few days, a veritable cornucopia of kookiness flows into my in box. One of my favorites is Worldview Weekend, a collection of Christian fundamentalist theocrats much beloved by Tom DeLay, who would be frightening if they weren’t so hopelessly gullible. http://www.worldviewweekend.com/

The latest alert from Worldview Weekend, so named because the group hosts weekend events that teach you how to be a “real” Christian, is interesting because it deals with an item you might have missed in the secular media: Seems some guy “found” Noah’s Ark.

Deluded fundamentalists and misguided would-be adventurers have been looking for Noah’s Ark for a long time. They haven’t managed to find it, but over the years they have discovered numerous rock outcroppings on Mount Ararat in Turkey.

Now, in a major new development, rock outcroppings are also being discovered in mountains in Iran. As Worldview’s Brannon S. Howse breathlessly writes, the latest expedition “returned to the U.S. from rugged mountains in Iran with astonishing video footage of a monstrous black formation which looks like rock but bears the amazing image of hundreds of massive, wooden, hand-hewn beams. Could it be the lost ark on which two of every animal once sailed with their human rescuer?”

Ah, no. My guess is it looks like a rock because it is a rock.

Examine the pictures closely. You don’t have to possess a degree in geology to recognize rock strata when you see it. Of course, Worldview Weekend people don’t believe in rock strata because they don’t believe in an ancient Earth, so to them, “wooden beams” must be a plausible explanation.

It pains me to have to do this, but someone must: There never was a Noah’s Ark, and it’s high time you people stopped making yourselves look like horse’s rear ends. Noah’s Ark is a charming tale, but it’s not a true story. It’s what we call an archetypal myth. It has interesting elements that appeal across cultures and down through the ages, and it teaches a moral lesson. It’s kind of like that old story about the fox that could not reach some grapes and so declared that the grapes were sour. You see, there never really was an actual fox who tried to do that. It’s just a story designed to teach a simple lesson.

Lots of cultures retain a flood myth, so maybe there was a huge flood at some point that affected much of the known world. More likely, these tales of mercurial gods who angrily destroy much of their own creation (save one family) speak to some aspect of hope in our shared humanity: Sure, we’re bad — and there was a time, long ago, when god grew so weary of our wickedness that he wanted to destroy us all. But he so loved us that he allowed one good man and his family to live. So maybe there’s hope for us after all.

Ironically, the fundamentalists, by insisting that the story be swallowed literally, drain it of its power. As metaphor, the tale of Noah, his family and the animals speaks powerfully to believers about the awesome force that is God’s love. Fundamentalist Christians make the story into an either/or proposition. Either you accept it as literal truth or you can get nothing from it. What an absurd position.

Look, the tale is improbable. It did not happen. But that doesn’t mean it has nothing to say to us. After all, a man named Sisyphus never actually pushed a giant boulder up a hill over and over only to see it roll back down each time either — but his tale remains instructive. You can call a task “Sisyphean” and at least some people will know you are speaking of ceaseless and pointless labor.

So how did the ark end up in Iran anyway? According to Howse, lead explorer Bob Cornuke was moved to look there after studying the Bible. “His observation was based on the Genesis 11 account that says descendants of Noah came to the Mesopotamian valley from the east,” wrote Howse. “According to Cornuke, that would put the Biblical mountains of Ararat somewhere in the northern reaches of Iran. He also cited ancient historians such as Nicholas of Damascus and Flavius Josephus who wrote just before and after Christ that timbers of the ark had survived in what would today be the higher mountains of Iran.” (Cornuke really is a piece of work. See more on him here)

How convenient. Having failed to find the ark in Turkey, “biblical archeologists” can now waste time finding vaguely ark-shaped rock outcroppings in other Middle Eastern nations. That should keep them busy — and tapping the faithful for funds — for many years.

Here’s a challenge to my fundamentalist friends: Quit wasting time and money looking for the ark. Instead, take the money you blow on these expeditions posing as fundamentalist versions of Indiana Jones and use it do something Jesus would do — like maybe feed the hungry, shelter the homeless and clothe the naked.

Just a thought.

I think we should put together an expedition to Germany to find the gingerbread cottage from the Hansel and Gretel folk tale.

  • These “ark-eologists” remind me of that famous Funniest Home Video with the dog, “Pushin’ a rock. Pushin’ a rock. Pushin’ a rock. Pushin’ a rock. ”

    I think Jesus was over-rated as a do-gooder. Sure he fed the people at his campaign functions, but mostly he did “healings” like some Earnest Angley in a cheap suit. He didn’t tell his disciples to go out and minister to the poor. He told them to go out and proselytize. And that’s what televangelists do.

  • a comment from the “reality-based community”: new scientific evidence leads to the possibile conclusion that flood myths in the Middle East and Europe may be the result of the catastropic flooding of the basin that is now the Black Sea, when the mountain barrier that is now the Dardanelles gave way. This likely happened about 6-7,000 years ago, so it would remain in the “collective mind” and eventually produce a myth. They are discovering the remains of what may have been late stone age villages on the floor of the Black Sea.

    Making Noah an even less-credible character for the “it realy happened” crowd.

  • Now, that’s rich — a “petrified” Ark! — even though, according to the fundies, the world is not old enough for the process of petrification to take place.

  • Tom Cleaver mentioned what I had read about and seen some shows about. The number of logical contradictions in the Noah story bugged me from the first time I heard it. Like…how did the animals get to the Americas, Australia and every other island in the world that has fauna? Remember that the people who push the accuracy of this story claim that it only happened thousands of years ago and that all of the land that exists now existed then.

    Here’s a link to the wikipedia article about the Black Sea flood hypothesis that Tom mentioned:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sea_deluge_theory

  • for Tom Cleaver…
    It is a little scientific fact/realisation that I came upon while writing a book on the ‘new frontiers’ of science.
    Have you noticed there has not been a new ‘report’/bilan on science(s) as a whole and its effects on mankind lately?

    BECAUSE there are way too much happening all at once and it is more of a free for all now because it is dizzying to just look at it … and wonder …

    Anywayyy … Science and societal facts are NEVER mentionned in this example of the ark -have you ever seen it before my mentionning it?- and to me it is the perfect ‘tool’ to debunk that bible shit/manure.

    I have a little scientific ‘recipe’ for you to take a quick look at: the history of navigation and the Phoenicians plus the social ‘mores’ of the rulers of ancient times. Let us start that the ‘experts’ of the days could come up with a better ship design -and often they had to come up with navigation improvements because the king wanted a faster ship and the ‘engineer’s’ life REALLY depended on it- then it is safe to say and logically accepted that such a ship as the ark -the size alone- would have been a precursor to a line of ships that would have put the discovery of the steam engine -England 18th century- well before the coming of Caesar.

    The engineering designs alone would have affected ALL BRANCHES of society in all the lands. Bigger and better buildings .. thus at war times they would have had to come up with a better way to ‘break’/destroy those better ‘everythings’ and on and on and on … I am sure that you see my point …At that time they were not intellectually developed enough to come up with something that would prove that man was already better than their god(s) … any gods.

    Think about it, in a society the best -most publicly profitable venture/invention- has ALWAYS brought about improvements …take it in the same vein as ALL the inventions and improvements on products and science that the moon missions have given the world.

    Now imagine that a fucking religious idiot is intelligent enough to build such a vessel but not intelligent enough to realize that he is fucking nuts and ‘hearing voices’ … DEUH!!!

    Just kidding and letting steam off … talking about the bible is the most stupid and useless thing to do .. I know … even my idol -Albert- talks of ‘a’ god and I would tell him he is an idiot .. a religious idiot that is … and I would have Albert AGREE with me, no ifs,ands or buts about it .. just a plain scientific fact!! I could have de-programmed jesus himself had he been real!!

    Now that we have all these sub-atomic particles maybe Einstein would not use the word god anymore .. big hope of mine.

    Science is the ALL POWERFUL DEICIDE and I know that I can/could de-program any human on Earth with an I.Q. over 140 ..the others are inconsequential.. just in the way.. the famely touted cannon fodder …

  • There was an interesting story on anthropology recently that said that snail shells pierced to be threaded as jewerly were found in early human sites and dated to as long ago as 100,000 years.

    But that can’t be right, because the world is only 6000 years old. Or is that 3000 years? Or 40,000 years?

    Sorry, but the bible isn’t only contradicted by evolution, but by every sound science.

  • Ok, a little light-hearted for the site, but given the nature of the story…

    Isn’t Iran just one giant rock-outcropping to begin with?

  • Don’t mock the fundies– The ancient ruins of theTower of Babel has also been found– in California. It is now called The Devil’s Post Pile. (Columnar basalt is a naturally occuring phenomenon.)

  • Hello, everyone: I just happened upon this site, and now I know why. It pains me to think there are so many out there, that are destined for hell. Yes, I believe in God, and yes, I believe in the devil. I have persobnally experienced both, and am here to say that it is not too late to choose God. If nothing else, don’t you want “insurance”? A “just in case”, if you will? You can choose to stop reading, or better yet, read on to see why I believe in something different than you do. I am not close-minded, rather I am open to learning about anything. Anyways, I was not brought up with religion at all. I would mock it before I would ever be a proponent for God. Like many, my college years were filled with drugs & alcohol. I am an intelligent person, tested to be shown as gifted even, so I am not a “crack-pot.” I got caught up in the wrong crowd, and got heavily involved with many “designer” drugs, namely ecstasy. Yes, I hallucinated…but even while not on the drugs I would see things that could not be explained. For 4 years I continued down this deadly path, and I should have died MANY times. In fact, I did “die” a few times, where I actually stopped breathing. Amazingly, I would awaken and act as if nothing happened. I was kidnapped, thrown from a car, beaten, and am here to tell all about it. As a side note, while all this was happening, I was still taking classes at college and then a univesity, where in 4 years I only got 1 C, the rest were As and Bs…. anyways, on New Years Eve, 1996, I got wasted! Even more so than ever before! What drugs? You name it…ecstasy, acid, cocaine, pot, alcohol and medical grade nitrous oxide. I partied through the night, and into the morning. That is when my life changed forever. I was at a “friend’s” house, when I started hearing a strange noise (growling to be exact). Then I actually saw demons. Yes, this could be explained by drugs, right? Then people started showing up at this house, everyone I had done drugs with for the past 4 years…these people were not all acquanted with one another, so there was no reason for them to be there. I heard a small voice telling me to lay down, rest and everything will be okay. It was a calming voice, so I listened. I went outside and layed down on the ground. These people walked past me smirking, and nobody stopped to ask me if I needed help. Then I heard another voice telling me to get up, not to listen to the other “voice.” I stood up and started walking around this neighborhood. I saw flashbacks of my life, poor choices I had made, everything that had led me to this point. What the hell was going on? Well, that is exactly what was going on. I was being shown why I was headed for hell, and soon I saw what I would experience in hell. I cried out to God, but didn’t get an answer. I wandered aimlessly, now in broad daylight, no shoes on my feet but wearing a party dress from the night before…crazy! I found myself at an Eckerds store & asked to use their phone. At first they said they didn’t have 1, then they finally let me make a call. I called someone that I thought was my friend, and he said he would come pick me up. I went outside to wait, and after LONG awhile I looked up at the sky. For the first time in my life I truly cried out to God for help….and then my friend showed up at that same moment. I tried to explain what I was seeing, hearing, experiencing, but it made no sense. As I got home, my apartment literally smelled like there had been a fire. Drugs were strewn all over my house & I threw them all out. My “friend” did not understand what I was doing, and every time I asked him about God, he changed the subject. I told him he had to leave & I stayed there, alone & confused. Then I remembered a Bible I had stolen a year back for a religion class that I dropped out of. The only thing I could think of was the 10 commandments, and amazingly I opened up the bible and found them easily. As I read down the list, I was guilty of every sin except murder! I really thought I was somewhere between this world and hell. I called my family to say good-bye, and they had no idea what I was talking about. I thought I was crazy, so I did not tell ANYONE about all of this. Then I turned on the TV and one of those preachers was on…coincidence? Anyways, he started talking about this man named Jesus, the son of God, who would forgive all of my sins and save me from hell. Ha! Yeah right, I thought! So I defiantly said, ‘Okay, if you are real, you need to prove it to me. I will accept Jesus as my savior, IF He is real…’!!! Well, I swear, almost instantly a warmth came over me, nothing I had felt before…better than any high I had experienced. I didn’t know what that meant. All I do know is that from that moment until today, I did not touch any of those drugs again. Also, not 1 person from my “drug” circle of influence ever called me again (and I never told them what had happened…), I went to a church and sat in the back. Every word was spoken as if it were meant for me! It has now been almost 10 years. I had graduated college during all of that, never touched a drug again, am now married with 2 wonderful kids and that is ONLY because of God! I never went to a substance abuse help group…although any normal human would have needed it. I believe I was saved to share my story with whomever would listen. I do hope at least 1 person who reads this will be changed. I pray for all of your eyes’ to be opened and your hearts to be softened. Don’t wait too long, as 1 day it really will be too late. God Bless!!!!

  • Dear “It’s not too late:” What you are suffering from is called bipolar disorder. You have an addictive personality and you’ve traded a bunch of admittedly harmful self-medications [drugs] for a relatively harmless one [God]. Mind you, your religious self-medication is only harmless if it doesn’t convince you that God wants you to be president of the US and you start waging war on innocent Iraqis. That’s great about you and your family and all. I have a loving wife, a beautiful child, a home, a job, friends, etc. I’ve never done drugs, though I do drink me some Guinness now and then. And I’ve never preached mythology [God, Satan, or Noah] to anyone, with the exception of the tooth fairy.

  • Hello, “chrenson”: No, I am not bi-polar, although my hubby may disagee when it’s my “time of the month” ha ha… I am of sound mind, and I do not suffer from depression or any other type of disorder. The only presidential campaign I ever ran for was student government, and the last thing I would ever want to do is be President of a country. It’s hard enough leading a family. I also enjoy a drink here and there, but my preference is wine, not beer. So, by no means do I consider myself a “preacher”, I simply share what has happened in my life. My concern is that people will be too close-minded to God, and their hearts will be hardened. I am not here to convince anyone that God is real, but I feel it’s my purpose to be real & honest about who I was and what God has made me now. So, with that said…my prayers are for all of you & your families, and that I will 1 day see you in heaven! God Bless!!!! 🙂

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