Dems debate, differ on diffusing war

Last week, I was willing to cut congressional Dems quite a bit of slack when it came to how best to check the president’s power on escalating the war in Iraq. A non-binding resolution, which seemed to make the GOP uncomfortable, is on the table, and as Barack Obama noted yesterday on Face the Nation, it could be the first in a series of steps lawmakers take in holding the White House accountable.

But over the weekend, various House and Senate Dems outlined competing plans for bills, some of which sounded far less encouraging than others.

Carl M. Levin (D-Mich.), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, said he is working with a bipartisan group of senators to pass a nonbinding resolution “simply saying that we do not agree that more troops are the answer.” Levin said he would not support a fund cutoff. He said yesterday on CNN’s “Late Edition” that his approach “will be a very strong message to the Iraqis that they’ve got to resolve their political differences.”

The Bush administration believes it has the funds to support the troop increase from the fiscal 2007 Defense Appropriations bill, the one money measure passed last year….

Appearing on the same program, Rep. John P. Murtha (D-Pa.), chairman of the House Appropriations defense subcommittee, said he would not limit funds for the troops already in Iraq but would try to put language in the bill carrying supplemental funds for the war that could prevent the final two U.S. brigades from going over in April and May.

The problem, as the NYT noted, is that Levin argued that he did not believe Congress should use the power of the purse to halt the president’s plan and that “it should go no further than approving nonbinding resolutions opposing it.”

Now, I like Levin, and he’s been right about a lot of Iraq-related issues for quite a while, including having voted against the original 2002 resolution. But what, exactly, is the point of pursuing a non-binding resolution, while vowing in advance to go no further? Why argue from a position of apparent weakness?

Note to congressional Dems: think like a majority party. You won. You’re in charge. The public agrees with you. There’s nothing to be afraid of.

It’s difficult to understand exactly why congressional Dems are hesitating. My sense is that most the party establishment believes they can shut down the war after Bush’s new plan fails. Kevin Drum touched on this approach a couple of weeks ago.

Conservatives long ago convinced themselves against all evidence that we could have won in Vietnam if we’d only added more troops or used more napalm or nuked Hanoi or whatever, and they’re going to do the same thing in Iraq unless we allow them to play this out the way they want. If they don’t get to play the game their way, they’ll spend the next couple of decades trying to persuade the American public that there was nothing wrong with the idea of invading Iraq at all. We just never put the necessary resources into it.

Well, screw that. There’s nothing we can do to stop them anyway, so give ’em the resources they want. Let ’em fight the war the way they want. If it works — and after all, stranger things have happened — then I’ll eat some crow. But if it doesn’t, there’s a chance that the country will actually learn something from this.

I’ve talked to a few Dem insiders in DC who’ve said similar things. One told me last week that by the summer, it’ll be clear that Bush failed — and will officially be out of excuses. At that point, Dems will say, “Mr. President, we’ve tried everything you wanted. It’s over.” By then, everything will be on the table — including cutting off all funding. Congressional Dems just aren’t quite there yet.

McCain said yesterday that this new strategy is “the last chance,” and that “everybody recognizes that.” If Bush and his allies blow their “last chance,” they don’t get anymore.

I’m not entirely convinced — by the summer, Bush, McCain, and Lieberman will embrace the “new new way forward” — but there doesn’t seem to be any other explanation for the Dems’ short-term passivity.

There’s crossing the Rubicon and then there’s crossing the rube.

It’s amazing how exactingly cyclical history is, especially to those who refuse to heed its lessons.

  • Well we can try to cut funding and save lives now or we can be passive and try to save hypothetical lives later.

    Bush is not as pinned in as we think he is. And even if he is that make the power-hungry monkey even more dangerous.

  • I don’t get how Levin’s non-binding resolution that resolves that Congress agrees to disagree sends “ a very strong message to the Iraqis that they’ve got to resolve their political differences.” This shows we can’t even resolve our own differences. Levin basically kicks the can down the road and claims the Iraqis should take notes on Congress’ kicking technique. The Iraqi government is very good at not doing much — they don’t need our help to become even more ineffectual.

  • How do you ask someone to die in order to allow Bush and the Republicans to play this out the way they want?

  • I don’t understand Levin at all. The surges of 2004, 2005 and 2006 went nowhere, and now we’re giving the Shrub “one more chance”? That’s pure unadulterated bullshit and Bush ought to be forced to eat it.

    Sometimes I really do think the Democratic leadership was born yesterday, or just dropped off the pickle boat. Last week, from senior Senator Ted Kennedy, we got one of the greatest impromptu speeches I’ve ever heard. After the applause died down and we went into another TeeVee news cycle, it’s as though he never opened his mouth. No support from the rest of the Democrats at all. What a pathetic, sorry bunch of clowns! I take that back … clowns are funny. What a pathetic, sorry bunch of losers!

  • on the one hand, i can understand giving bush and company enough rope to hang themselves….but come on now! bush and cheney spent the weekend saying that congress could do nothing to stop them from escalation. how much longer before congress decides enough is enough and decides to impeach these idiots?

  • I hate to say this but there’s more at stake here than just the Iraq War.

    1) There’s our future as a democracy.
    2) There’s our future as a Constitutional Republic.
    3) There’s our future in a non-sectarian vs. sectarian world.

    This President is ignoring the will of the people. Unfortunately, that is a flaw in our Constitution; the people cannot remove a President solely on grounds of incompetence or hunger for power.

    I realize the Democrats are looking at this politically; they don’t want the Republicans to be running on a “who lost Iraq” platform. But the Dems should lay it on the line – if there isn’t significant progress in this war, Congress will reserve the right to change funding priorities so that we may leave Iraq in a respectable manner.

  • Liberman is in charge. at least when is comes to Iraq. Sure there is a power check but he knows that right now he can get things that no one else in the US can. It is a fine line and if he abuses it he can lose the power, but right now the Democrats don’t want to push him too far. Cutting off funds would be that too far push by the dems. Not allowing a vote on the resolution would be a cross over the line for Liberman. So for practical reasons we get a resolution but only threat to cut off funds until Liberman is out of power (A maximum of two years).

  • “Last week, I was willing to cut congressional Dems quite a bit of slack when it came to how best to check the president’s power on escalating the war in Iraq.”

    If you can’t distinguish between House and Senate Dems, then you are in for a LOT of disappointments.

    FIRST HOW ABOUT POINTING OUT FOR YOU THAT IT IS THE HOUSE, not the Senate, that controls the purse-strings.

    Our gains are in the House. If you want to get freaked about Senator Levin’s mealy-mouthed weakness, well, you’ve had decades to go nuts about that.

    No Congress has EVER cut funding for an ongoing war. It is doubtful if such a course would or could work, but it’s worth trying. It would be the House doing that, btw.

  • Dems must press, and the best strategy is hearings, with the admin representatives under oath. What is Maliki’s “plan” that GWB’s plan supports? How are we structuring military command in those Baghdad military districts–are American troops following Iraqi orders? What is the evidence that Iran’s agents are behind the Shiite militias? For that matter, what intelligence do we have about Iran’s intentions, and is any more credible than the intelligence we had about Iraq? Just what are those Patriot batteries going to defend, and why does GWB think they are necessary? What contingencies in Iraq require a second battle fleet? Don’t the Iranians have some nasty anti-ship missiles that their crowd in Lebanon used to sink an Israeli destroyer earlier this year? How is recruitment for the district reconstruction teams going?
    Bruce

  • It takes time to discern the best strategy. Rush in waving and shouting and you make mistakes. Hasten slowly is much surer and stronger in the end.

    You’re playing a canny, hydra-headed beast here. Short cuts and thrusts may not be appropriate. Good for show, bad for win. I’m totally in favour of gentle, clever progress. Hotheads always defeat themselves.

    Only strike when you’re sure to vanquish. That moment has not yet come. When the fruit is ripe it will fall. Pluck it when it’s hard and you waste it. If you can’t stop this escalation easily, don’t waste power trying. Let it go through, let it run it’s course, then strike.

    It takes time for a new Congress to settle in and get their measure. This process of parrying and adjusting is good. It’s vital to listen, pay attention and identify the real weaknesses. Muster and marshal your forces accuratey.

    Also, never lose sight of the higher goal. It’s always further in the future than you imagine or would wish. But, when it comes, decimate without mercy.

  • “Don’t the Iranians have some nasty anti-ship missiles that their crowd in Lebanon used to sink an Israeli destroyer earlier this year?” –Bruce

    The destroyer was not sunk.

    “Iran may have imported as many as 100 C-801s and eight launchers in 1987-88, and by 1994 it was claimed that Iran had about 200 C-801 missiles as well as the ability to produce the C-801 indigenously [under the designation “Tondar”]. Other reports in 1996 suggest that China was assisting Iran with a new antiship cruise missile — the “Karus” — which believed to be based on the C-801 and/or C-802. In June 1997 Iran tested two Chinese-built C-801 air-launched cruise missiles from an F-4 fighter.”

    So, yeah, Iran is plenty armed, except no known nukes to reply to Gw’s inevitable tactical solution.

    Also ‘found’ in S. Lebanon (found by ‘unhappy’ tank-drivers) were anti-tank missiles built by the US, supplied by Iran. Are these part of the 3,000 TOW missiles that Reagan sold Iran, VIA ISRAEL?

    Oops.

  • I stand corrected: the Israeli destroyer was disabled; however, a merchant ship was sunk. This article provides more info about the incident, and some others including a disabling IRAQI attack on the USS Stark in 1987:
    http://www.military.com/forums/0,15240,115199,00.html

    This begs the question I pose: what are the risks to the US Navy by saber rattling against Iran in the gulf?

  • Iraq’s Exocet attack on the Stark, which Reagan blamed on the Iranians, btw.

    Risks? Heck, none to speak of. ‘If the pilot’s good, see. I mean, if he’s really… sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low spreads his arms like wings., laughs you oughtta see it sometime, it’s a sight. A big plane, like a ’52, vroom! There’s jet exhaust, flyin’ chickens in the barnyard!’

  • That article has your answer:

    “So what it means in a broader context is anytime you venture into the littoral now, you man your ESM stations and have your [Close-In Weapon System] in a high state of readiness. You have to assume you’re under a multidimensional threat at all times.”

    So you point your hot sh*t at the other guy’s hot sh*t and then when the Gulf of Tonkin shells come in, you light ’em up.

    The Navy is bored. We got to let them unload some ordinance or else ‘the gay’ is going to take out our entire fleet!

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