Did McCain get confused about al Qaeda again?

Arguably the most politically significant aspect to today’s Senate testimony from Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker is the campaign angle — John McCain, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama will all get a chance to question Petraeus and Crocker directly.

But McCain is drawing interest this morning for what appears to be yet another in a series of mistakes about the basics of events in the Middle East.

For those who can’t watch clips online, McCain asks Petraeus, “Do you still view al Qaeda in Iraq as a major threat?” The general responded, “It is still a major threat, though it is certainly not as major a threat as it was say 15 months ago.” McCain added, “Certainly not an obscure sect of the Shi’ites all overall?” Petraeus answered, “No,” though McCain quickly added, “Or Sunnis or anybody else.”

I’ve watched the exchange a few times, and I keep coming to the same conclusion: by rhetorically asking if al Qaeda is a Shiite sect, McCain was once again demonstrating that he’s confused about the terrorist group’s religious background. He added, “Or Sunnis or anybody else,” not to necessarily to clarify, but to cover his bases — he figures al Qaeda has to be affiliated with an Islamic tradition, even if he doesn’t know which one.

Ilan Goldenberg added, “McCain did genuinely mix up Sunnis and Shi’a again…. Now, I know that there is a bit of gotcha going on here. But this man claims that his greatest qualification for the Presidency is that he understands foreign policy. But the differences between Sunni and Shi’a matter. They matter a lot! And this nasty habit of mixing it up just seriously needs to stop.”

Indeed, I’d say it’s the “nasty habit” that makes this morning’s mix-up especially interesting. If McCain had consistently demonstrated a firm grasp of events in the Middle East, it’d be easier to overlook confusion over whether al Qaeda is Sunni or Shi’ia.

But therein lies the point — McCain has struggled with this before.

* On Feb. 28, McCain told the Baker Institute for Public Policy in Houston, Texas, “Al Qaeda is there [in Iraq], they are functioning, they are supported in many times, in many ways by the Iranians.”

* On March 17, McCain appeared on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show and said, “There are al Qaeda operatives that are taken back into Iran and given training as leaders and they’re moving back into Iraq.”

* On March 18, McCain held a press conference in Jordan in which he repeated the same claim, twice, including his insistence that it was “common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that’s well known.”

Eventually, McCain backpedalled, but only after Joe Lieberman whispered in his ear that he was wrong. Asked why he would repeatedly insist that Sunni al Qaeda was benefitting from training from Shiite Iran, McCain would only say he “misspoke.”

Complicating matters, McCain also appeared confused last week about events in Basra.

As recently as November 2006, McCain couldn’t even talk about his own opinions on the war without reading prepared notes on national television. As recently as March 2007, McCain was embarrassing himself by insisting that Gen. Petraeus travels around Baghdad “in a non-armed Humvee” (a comment that military leaders literally laughed at, and which CNN’s Michael Ware responded to by saying McCain’s credibility “has now been left out hanging to dry.”)

Add up the errors, and we see a Republican candidate whose problem is not with words but with facts.

But the differences between Sunni and Shi’a matter.

Not so much to McCain’s base.

Pretty sure he’d get just as much traction, if not more, using a derogatory term concerning turbans or head scarfs or another co-opting the ‘N’ word.

They only care that A. they have brown skin, and B. we are killing them.

  • “Not so much to McCain’s base.”

    Considering that his base is the press, I’d think that maybe, just maybe, after 7+ years of the walking disaster that is the Bush/Cheney regime, some of the press might have second thoughts about their adulation of him.

    Sure, he makes them feel like they are in on the con,.and they love that, but ye gods, but together the man’s ignorance and his temper, and we could be in for truly disasterous times were he to win.

    At what point do they rethink their worship of him?

  • I draw a much more dire conclusion. Either Petraeus is in on the conflation scheme, or he is trying not to embarrass McCain. Either way it seems he finds it preferrable to be a four star general under a fool, than a two star under someone who gets it.

  • There are 1.3 Billion Muslims.

    But there are only 800,000,000 Sunnis and 400,000,000 Shi’ia. The fact that they routinely kill each other around the world makes the first stated fact matter very little.

    Remaining ignorant of the differences, through a virtual act of will, just demonstrates that McCan’t, like Boy George II, is too stupid to be president.

    Or, if you believe that McCan’t is deliberately conflating two ‘enemies’ to get the American People behind an attack on Iran, it just demonstrates that McCan’t, like Dick Cheney, is too dishonest to be in charge of the American Government.

    That’s the choice, either another four years of the Bush Administration

    or another four years of the Cheney Administration.

  • So…there’s no real difference between Catholics and Protestants, right? Don’t bother me with pesky details…I’m running for president!

    😀

  • This is merely more double triplespeak, he’s saying, “it doesn’t matter who we’re fighting as long as we get to Tehran.”

    It was disturbing watching Lieberman. The guy seemed to be salivating to the point of having difficulty speaking as he said Iranians were behind all our problems in Iraq.

  • Can’t the people of CT recall Lieberman like the bad piece of downer cow that he is?

  • There is one other possibility which both acquits McCain of ignorance or malice yet still renders him wholly ineligible to be President: his short term memory is shot from Alzheimers or some other age-related infirmity. Having seen the last several years of the Reagan administration, why would anyone want someone in much worse shape mentally on Day One than Reagan was?

  • based on stumbles along the campaign trail i’m confident mccain’s senility will get amplified in the generals, providing of course the dems don’t wait until november to decide who their candidate is.

  • Re # 8.

    There is also speculation that Boy George II’s inability to rethink (introspection) any of his policies is because thinking causes him physical pain because of his abuse of alcohol and cocaine. If John McCan’t is in a similar condition, SOMEONE ought to know it.

    Notice he’s still not released his Medical records. A damn sight more important than Clinton’s tax records if you ask me.

  • I seriously hope the press has the brains to realize how dangerous it would be to have someone in charge of our military who can’t even keep track of the most rudimentary of basics in the middle east. I know it’s fun to have a close presidential race and all, but do they think their kids will benefit from having a retarded warmonger with Alzheimers in charge?

    It’s time for the Free Ride to END. McCain isn’t just slipping here and there, he’s in cloud-cuckoo land along with Bush. If he’s grilled on the facts in any way, it becomes very apparent that he hasn’t paid a damn bit of attention to the facts as they really are, because he’s been too busy listening to Podheretz and all the other scumbags who want us to wage an endless war for Israel and Exxon.

  • I can imagine a president McCain doing a diplomatic tour of Asia, arriving at the airport in Seoul, and saying, “so, South Korea….. say, are you guys the good Korea or the bad one?”

  • I’ve watched the clip over and over again, and I’m not so convinced that he’s confusing Shia and Sunni—it looks more like a rather drug-addled old coot of a man who’s professing an overall “Muslim = bad people” philosophy.

    A bit OT, but McSame’s not looking so healthy these days, compared to his “Bomb-bomb-Iran” chatter last year. I think he’s going to need some of Cheney’s Borg implants before Election day gets here….

  • (and this is not tAiO)

    so far upthread we’ve seen speculation on

    a) ignorance
    b) malice – warmongering or general anti-muslim bias
    c) age-related impairment – senility, dementia

    friends, neighbors and fellow countrymen (and women), never never rule out

    d) all of the above.

    indeed, that is where my money would be. if i still had any.

  • Notice he’s still not released his Medical records.

    When they are released, they will be lies. Count on it. And the worst scars he carries are probably mental, not physical. And of course we’re not allowed to even ask whether someone who’s got PTSD should be president. Nope, he’s a war hero, and that’s the end of the discussion. And the fact that he has personally killed more people than any presidential candidate ever* is not even brought up.

    No one will ever get to know until its too late what kind of shape he’s in, and even if somehow it was revealed McCain would cry “ageism” and make hay from it with the older voters like his mom who think they should be able to drive like bats out of hell until they die.

    * I think this is true, but correct me if I am wrong.

  • I think he’s going to need some of Cheney’s Borg implants before Election day gets here

    He’ll need Bush’s wire, too.

  • Sunni vs Shiite is just the tip of the iceberg in Iraq, as the last few weeks have so graphically displayed. If McClueless cant even keep those straight, how long as president before he declares the whole country a free fire zone?

  • My god what is wrong with the American press because the American people sure get it. McCain doesn’t know what the hell he’s talking about on any major issue with a cue card to prompt him or a Libermann to cue him in. It’s pathetic…if he had alzheimers and just stood there drooling in front of a microphone the press would claim he had just had a long day. The man has been faking it in the senate for years and really does not have the mind to be president or really even a senator any longer (however, if Lieberman can be senator then anyone with enough money can be one). McCain has to be told what to say and if you question him too hard on any issue it becomes obvious how shallow he really is. thank god the people see it in spite of the press.

  • McCain is a robot of a candidate. He fully depends on teleprompters at all speaking events.

    Ron Paul is still a candidate for president and it doesn’t seem like McCain can go the distance on this election cycle.

  • You’d think that McCain’s handlers would spend a little more time with him drilling him on the different religious sects in the Middle East, but evidently they are convinced that the citizens are dumb enough to vote for him because they don’t know the differences either. I’m afraid that this poor senile fossil of a man is actually engaging in negative campaigning….against himself.

  • This another one of those “if a Democrat had said it” moments that is very revealing. Can you imagine Hillary or Obama or Pelosi making this mistake? It would be presented as proof positive that Democrats are clueless on war and national security. McCain gets a pass.

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