Down to the wire in Cali-for-ni-a

When California’s Republican governor, Arnold Schwarzenegger, announced his support for John McCain last week, it came as a bit of a surprise. The governor had just said, a couple of days prior, that he would remain neutral in the race, but the results of the Florida primary, coupled with Rudy Giuliani’s departure, led to the unexpected endorsement.

But however surprising Schwarzenegger’s announcement was, that was nothing compared to his wife’s unforeseen endorsement yesterday.

Maria Shriver endorsed Democrat Barack Obama’s White House bid today at a Los Angeles rally.

“Follow your own truth and your own voice,” she told the crowd. With California’s primary just 48 hours away, “We’re at the epicenter of change. We can lead. We can lead this country,” she said.

The California First Lady made a surprise appearance on-stage at the Sunday campaign event, backed by the candidate’s wife Michelle Obama, talk show host Oprah Winfrey and Shriver’s cousin Caroline Kennedy.

The event was televised on C-SPAN, leading one of Ben Smith’s readers to note it was “probably the most exciting thing to happen on C-SPAN in a very long time.”

I haven’t seen any of the event myself, but the NYT’s Andrew Rosenthal said, “Forty-eight hours before the closest thing America has ever had to a national primary, four extraordinary women put on the best campaign rally I’ve seen in 20 years of covering presidential politics.” I guess it was pretty good.

All of this matters, of course, given California’s electoral significance, but the contest in the Golden State is complex enough at this point to make it entirely unpredictable.

Bill Clinton also spent the day in California, making something akin to a mea-culpa tour of predominantly African-American churches, hoping to alleviate some of the tensions of recent weeks.

Bill Clinton embarked on a pre-Super Tuesday tour of African American churches in Southern California Sunday, in what some involved in the organizing claim is intended to let the former president speak directly to African American voters after the controversy that erupted over his remarks in South Carolina.

“This is a wonderful, wonderful election for America. We ought to be able to have a few disagreements without discord,” he told an audience of African American parishioners during his first stop at the City of Refuge Church in Los Angeles. The Clinton campaign says the tour is part of a larger effort to reach out to all California communities.

At his first stop, the former president never directly addressed his remarks in South Carolina, but he appealed to the audience for understanding.

“I’m not against anybody. I’ve never been more proud to be part the Democratic Party in my life,” he said. “I get why this is a hard election. I waited my whole life to vote for an African American for president. I waited my whole life to vote for a woman for president. And sometimes I look up at sky and say, ‘God you’re playing with my mind again.'”

So, who’s going to win this contest? As a practical matter, the race is close enough that the candidate with the most votes won’t be able to celebrate much — California’s delegates will be distributed on a proportional basis, so the “loser” in the state will still likely do quite well.

That said, given that bragging rights and momentum-narratives are on the line, it looks awfully close. The Field Poll, generally considered the gold standard of California surveys, showed Clinton leading Obama by two points, 36% to 34%, with 18% undecided, and 12% responding “others” (this group includes voters who’ve already cast their ballots). The Field Poll showed Clinton with a 15-point lead in California two weeks ago, so Obama is going into tomorrow having closed the gap considerably.

But Nick Beaudrot makes the case that it probably won’t be enough.

These breathless reports of a tied race in California are getting out of hand, as are those suggesting Obamantum will sweep him to a delegate victory on Super Tuesday. Everybody needs to get a grip here … Hillary Clinton had a twenty-four point lead among people who had actually cast ballots as recently as ten days ago. To overcome that sort of head start, Obama would have to have had an unprecedented GOTV operation in California, and all indications are that while he has a large number of committed volunteers, there aren’t enough to effectively canvass the state.

It should be interesting.

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  • Well, CB, if you had seen the rally, I think you might be joining the chorus of “Michelle Obama for President”…

    She’s a force of nature.

  • The Schwarzenegger-Shriver endorsements of McCain and Obama are another indicator of what should be a strong Democratic Tsunami this Fall. They know which way the wind blows, and they’ve set their sails accordingly. If Arnold weren’t the sitting Republican governor, he’d probably have flipped along with Maria.

    Maria Shriver and the NY Giants? Who knows … it may be something wider and deeper than we can imagine.

  • Californians must be pretty happy now, considering they are going to have such an impact on the nominations.

    And they must be really reconsidering early voting, as it is lessening their impact.

  • It should be interesting…

    Yes. But I still think the Clintons are still going to win.
    It is simply too much ground to make up in too little time.
    Also, I got faith in the Dims to do the wrong thing.
    That party has disappointed me continuously for the last 12 years…

    On another front: Michelle Obama will be in Tucson today.
    Got an email and registered.
    Be interesting to hear her speak.

    Lastly, glad to see CB treated the Shriver thing without bias.

    Josh Marshall’s “it is a Kennedy fad” is a telling putdown.
    The Kennedy’s have been going gangbusters for Barack for over a week.
    Claiming their interest is merely faddish is pathetic punditry.
    But then given some of things Marshall has written of late…
    I’ve come to expect one part drivel for every four parts insight.

  • Well, I am one Californian who will be voting for Obama. It is going to be very very close.

  • Responding to Joyce’s post ((#6) with the misleading race-baiting headline, I am my own person, and I make my own choices…my husband does not make them for me. As a result, I was not influenced by the actions or inactions of Hillary when Bill was the presidential candidate, and I couldn’t care less about the actions/inactions of Michelle when Barak is the presidential candidate.

    If somebody has a problem with a candidate, then I’m willing to listen. But save the unusual case where the spouse is a former president with expressed influence, this voter couldn’t care less about the past behavior of somebody who isn’t on the ballot…first lady or otherwise.

  • Joyce, according to Wikipedia, Michelle Obama was paid $51,200 during her brief tenure at Treehouse Foods. She left when her husband criticized Wal Mart in mid-2007. I f you want to know where the jobs went then you need look no farther then NAFTA, a bill that William Clinton enthusiastically championed against the will of a majority of his own party. NAFTA institutionalized the idea that if you could get an American job done elsewhere for less money then it was not only okay to take it there – you’d get a tax break into the bargain.

  • HYPE or HOPE?
    Restore America’s greatness…Bring refreshing change; Elect Obama!
    Your potential, his passion…Like a good neighbor, Obama is there!
    Cool dudes vote for cool dudes…Did somebody say Obama?
    OMG, this like totally changes everything…It’s Obama — we’re saved!
    Want lower prices on prescriptions drugs? Obama!
    Between love and madness lies Obama…Unlesh the power!
    Give me Obama, or give me death…I’m Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs!
    Barack rules, and we drool…Silly rabbit, Trix are for kids!
    Can you hear me now…Like no other…One word: Camelot!
    Obama transcends politics…Have you driven a Ford lately?
    Our towering king of good government…Born to lead; Barck Obama!
    People all over the world clap your hands!
    When elected Obama WILL shake-hands with leaders like Hillary Clinton.
    Pardon me. Do you have any Grey Poupon?
    When great is not enough; Barack Obama!
    Congradulations, you’ve just won an new i-phone!
    Uncommon political courage…”Hello, yellow brick road!”
    Amazing weight loss secrets to be reveled!
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    Get well soon Britney…Without Obama we’re doomed!
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    Drive a new car, meet your soul-mate, say halləluya…Celebrate Obama!
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    Putting America first…It’s about entegrity, stupid!!!
    I just saved a bunch of money on my car insurance!
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    Amazing grace…Be all you can be…Unstopable; Obama!
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    Dude, you’re getting an awesome president!
    Ask not what Obama can do for you; Ask what you can do for Obama!
    Finally, sanity makes a comeback…Proud again to be an American!
    Amend the Constitution; President Obama for life!
    Make room Mount Rushmore, because here comes Obama!
    Voted for Obama? Nailed it!

  • Dear Abby,
    Then I recently met this man who feels like he could be the one, but I’ve been hurt before and I’m just not sure I can make that leap, because I just don’t know if I could survive another fall.

    Do I stay in a long, successfull, yet passionless relationship, or throw that all a way for a chance at the fairy tale?

  • Dear Meme

    I’m not Abby but my advise is simple.

    Don’t let your bad experience cloud your judgment.

    If you refuse to open your heart for a good man because you’re afraid he would turned out to be bad then you will never be with a good man.

    And if he is also skillful in wooing you, that would be a bonus.

  • GIVE ME A BREAK: Let’s see Barack (& Michelle) wage half as many campaigns as Bill & Hillary have. Or endure even one vicious, untetherd [e.g. Arkansas Project] political attack…Then maybe we can compare notes on grace, poise, tears and scars.

  • Maria Shriver: “If Obama were a state, he’d be California!”

    I’ve lived in California. That’s not compliment.

  • Everybody I know in CA – including my ex-husband – is voting for Obama tomorrow.

    But, I do think Hillary will take the state because of early voting. (Because of non-winner-take-all, though, she’ll split the delegates).

  • Of those who argue, “Do we really want another Clinton Administration?”, maybe one-in-10,000 could survive all the abuse they caught because no #*@&%#

  • When Ethel Kennedy splits with three of her (grown) children over Obama/Clinton, and normally invisible Maria Schriver joins her cousin Caroline to endorse Obama, while Arnold becomes a sarifical Rethug for McCain, I’m beginning to smell a rat. The Kennedys are obviously playing both sides of the Democratic field, and deliberately. They normally stick together like honey on your fingers, but they frequently know things we don’t so I’m finding the Democratic side of things beginning to get interesting. Arnold is another matter: he is really a RINO, and if it looks like a big year for the Dems, including the White House, look to Arnold switching parties.

  • Its going to be interesting, no question. It will probably split up so that no candidate has a decisive edge. The spreading out of the remaining primaries probably gives Obama the edge because he seems to do better when given time for people to get to know him.

    But we well be in for an interesting convention…”interesting” as in the Chinese blessing/curse “May you live in interesting times.” The Democratic Party structure give incredible control to the Party itself. And without a clear nominee before the convention, it could well get ugly. Lawsuits over MI & FL are certainly a possibility.

    And if there is going to be a pitched battle between the DLC and the Phoenix Group wings of the party (and their allies), it will be there. I’m not willing to make any predictions. However, that latter group certainly felt betrayed by the Kerry campaign. They’ve got the money and the lawn; if they take their ball and go home it could be curtains for the Democratic Party as we know it.

  • On the contrary, jackpine savage (#21), I think all this attention and prolonged debaate is good for the party. It generates buzz and excitement and has lots of people engaged in the process.

  • Lawsuits over MI & FL are certainly a possibility.

    Which might not be such a bad thing.
    If it gets ugly like you surmise, and if, there is a bitter Clinton-Scalia-steal-the-election kind of moment, I suspect there might be enough ire to create a third party candidate.
    Then again…
    On another level…
    As an observer of social temperatures…
    Should Barack’s mad dash to make up ground fall broken-winged to the ground…
    A lot of air is going to go out of the Democratic party.
    That is inevitable.
    He is the charisma candidate.
    Ergo, I don’t see a great turnout for the party in the Fall.
    Hils is about as exciting as a mannequin with a frozen smile in a dark blue three-piece pants suit.
    You can shout she is the first woman EVER.
    But that won’t win back much of the broken-wing folks…
    Plus there will be a ton of ads showing that Bill Clinton’s lie was not simply one irate moment…
    But that his dishonesty was blatant and extended over a long period of time.
    I suspect these factors will take a toll.
    The ardency of a solid 10-15% of the luke warm Dems who don’t much care to make the effort to vote will be severely tested.

    I suspect the republican strategist know this.
    And will aim targets accordingly.

  • Rich wrote: “Arnold is another matter: he is really a RINO, and if it looks like a big year for the Dems, including the White House, look to Arnold switching parties.”

    He might realize that with BGII gone, California could actually implement some if its environmental laws without interference by the EPA.

    Its a big question in my mind if McCain will let them do it too.

  • Methinks i might not have been clear enough. I did not intend to suggest that the prolonged nomination race or the possibility of a brokered convention is a bad thing. I see it as a very interesting thing. Furthermore, i do believe that if the Democratic Party hopes to ever regain some semblance of power, it will have to resolve these issues. On the other hand, i think that the party was stupidly short-sighted for not resolving these issues before this moment. While it is a cathartic event, it does (possibly) detract from what should be overwhelming momentum. Though i can also see where it could contribute to momentum. (this is why i’m such a rotten partisan, i’m fundamentally incapable of seeing only one side of an issue)

    Remember, the meaning of the Chinese proverb, “May you live in interesting times,” can be both a blessing and a curse. Like everything else, it all depends on how you look at it.

  • Just for the record, I live in California, I voted early, and I voted for Obama. Not because I dislike Clinton so much, although I’ve been disappointed with some of her campaign tactics, but simply because there are moments in history when one person really stands out and I truly believe that Obama is the right person for this moment in history.

    He still might not get the nomination, but I don’t regret my choice and would vote for him again tomorrow if I could get away with it. 😉

  • Not sure just when , but know caught sight of Obama befor his Illinois Senate race..even thou a Cali resident, tried to trak a bit for found him quite impressive well befor KNOWN nationally. Was tepid at best to Hillary, actually had grown weary of MSM telling one and all how INEVITIBLE she was which started in earnest just after the 2004 results rolled in. Then the more did pay attention , knew found issues and made her NOT the choice to legitimately consider and those more recently reaffirmed and KNOW can NOT under any circumstances mark a ballot in her favor, such just won’t happen here, and hear the same from others despite trememdnous dissatisfaction with one party rule by the GOP. I will enthusiastically mark the Obama box…and if he is NOT the final nominee, will seek out elsewhere or bypass altogether. Frankly , could fanthom a GOP in the WH as long as a true majority of Dems took control and actually wonked on behalf of the people rather than their personal political best intersts over ours…ONE PARTY RULE is NOT acceptable as we have witnessed during these bushlerized years of reign where they controlled the Executive, legislative and Justice and had vast free range and NO oversight nor any able to hold them accountable for decisions IMPOSED.

  • Remember, the meaning of the Chinese proverb, “May you live in interesting times,” — jackpine savage, @25

    A little pedantic OT. It’s not a Chinese proverb, it’s a Jewish curse 🙂 All the Chinese of my acquaintance disclaim it. OTOH, I grew up with my Mother and all her friends using it, frequently. That, and another one: “May you have an itch and your hands be too short to scratch it”

  • The Field Poll showed Clinton with a 15-point lead in California two weeks ago, so Obama is going into tomorrow having closed the gap considerably.

    Will someone please explain to me how the candidate who loses 12 points (she is now ahead only by 2 points) in two weeks is the candidate to back if we want to win????????

    Pardon me, but when I was involved in professional politics, winning was about addition, not subtraction. I can’t believe things have changed that much in 30 years.

  • Anyone who says that Obama doesn’t have what it takes to stand against the republican smear machine hasn’t been paying attention. He stood up to Faux “News” and *they* were the ones to take it on the chin, not him. His refusal to participate in their debates or to appear on their shows, his cutting them off in the middle of their “radical madrassa” lie, and so forth. They sneered about how he was making a mistake by not playing their game, but he didn’t even turn a hair at their posturing. And he was proven right in the end. It got to the point where Bill O’Rielly literally assaulted one of Obama’s people just for an opportunity to speak with him after the New Hampshire primary.

    I don’t believe the story about Clinton being more experienced. And I don’t believe the story about her being better able to deal with republican smears, either. I’m not a big fan of Obama’s politics, but Clinton’s are almost identical, so that isn’t a point in her favor either. I was probably going to vote for Edwards, but with him out of the race I’m voting for Obama.

  • The “ancient Chinese curse” is neither ancient nor Chinese. Go to http://www.snopes.com and read the whole interesting story of how it was created about 20 years ago.

    BTW, when is Internet Trolls For Hillary being founded????

  • Tom, I just spent several minutes typing several search strings into Snopes’ search engine, and never found it. Could you provide a direct link, please?

  • Ok, so who am i supposed to believe, libra or Tom Cleaver? I tried snopes, but not very hard. In any case, i’m dead wrong. Thankfully it is not the first time this has happened, so i’m not crushed or anything.

    Just out of curiosity, were you asking me about Internet Trolls for Hillary? I would have thought it was already a roaring operation…but i’ve been wrong before.

  • Bottom Line:

    Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! “Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care” free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

    “HR 676:
    For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.
    Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills.”

    But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.

    But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

    We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

    I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven’t forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it’s her.

    Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton’s are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

    The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton’s are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

    As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

    My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all… You are doing great!

  • 20 seconds typing “may you live in interesting times” on Google. Got this from NobleNet.com

    In a speech in Cape Town, South Africa, on June 7, 1966, Robert F. Kennedy said, “There is a Chinese curse which says, “May he live in interesting times.” Like it or not, we live in interesting times…” Journalists picked up the phrase and it has become a commonplace.

    However, the popularity of this “Chinese curse” puzzles Chinese scholars, who have only heard it from Americans. If it is of Chinese origin, it has somehow escaped the literature, although it may be a paraphrase of a liberal translation from a Chinese source, and therefore unrecognizable when translated back to Chinese. It might be related to the Chinese proverb, “It’s better to be a dog in a peaceful time than be a man in a chaotic period.”

    Stephen DeLong, who has been researching this quotation for several years and details his quest on his own website, has traced the quotation back to a 1950 science fiction story: “U-Turn” by Duncan H. Munro, a pseudonym for Eric Frank Russell.

    Whether 1950 or 1980, it’s not very “ancient” and definitely not “chinese”

    The question about Internet Trolls for Hillary wasn’t directed at anyone in particular, but was rather a response to the fair number of members of said organization who were posting on this thread.

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