Even worse than expected

I feel like I need to write “I will not be so naive” on a blackboard 100 times to teach myself a lesson. At first, I thought there was no way Gen. David Petraeus would limit himself to just one media interview with Fox News, television’s most partisan news outlet. Why would a respected military leader who wants to appear objective and neutral limit himself to the scrutiny of a Republican network? I was wrong; Petraeus apparently didn’t care about the appearance of partisanship.

Then, I thought, Fox News would at least pretend to ask some of those seemingly-tough-but-actually-softball questions. As media competition goes, last night was a major “get” for the GOP’s network, and Fox News had to appreciate the fact that people would tune in for the exclusive. This was a chance to show some journalistic credibility, put the network’s best-foot forward, maybe even grow in stature (up from zero). The network has had years to practice the fine art of advancing a partisan agenda while pretending to be a professional journalistic enterprise. Last night was a chance to show these skills off.

But I was wrong about this, too.

Brit Hume’s exclusive one hour interview with Gen. David Petraeus and Ambassador Ryan Crocker proved Fox News to be an even friendlier forum than expected. Hume opened the interview by asking Petraeus to give a “synopsis” of his testimony before the House today. Petraeus then proceeded on an uninterrupted 16 minute soliloquy, turning the Fox News “interview” into a powerpoint presentation on national TV. While Petraeus was presenting his charts, a Fox chyron read “A briefing for America.” After taking a commercial break, Hume allowed Crocker to give his own 10 minute uninterrupted speech. Hume never asked a critical question of either Petraeus or Crocker.

When Fox News announced over the weekend that Petraeus and Crocker would be on, the network said it would be an “exclusive interview.” But giving the two officials nearly a half-hour of scrutiny-free time isn’t an “interview”; it’s the “Petraeus and Crocker Show.”

The chyron read, “Briefing for America.” But we didn’t need another “briefing.” Petraeus and Crocker had just briefed Congress, before a national television audience, for six-and-a-half hours. The media’s job is to follow up on that briefing with scrutiny, analysis, fact-checking, etc. What’s the point of Fox News even existing if it just wants to make its programming a transparent commercial for the Bush administration?

Indeed, in one particularly striking instance, FNC’s Brit Hume seemed unsatisfied that Petraeus hadn’t described the war in Iraq as a war against al Qaeda, so he asked pointed questions until the General said what Fox News wanted him to say. It was almost embarrassing.

Alex Koppelman highlighted what happened when Hume actually asked a question, half-way into the hour-long “interview.”

“Gentlemen, in both your testimony today, you indicated that there had been this bottom-up reconciliation which was sort of unpredicted and much welcomed, but it seemed to be mostly in Sunni areas. And the situation with the Shia seem — and the possible misbehavior, difficulty, problems with Shia militias, and so on,” Hume began.

And when, with the end of Hume’s question still hanging, the camera panned to the faces of Crocker and Petraeus, both looked to be bracing themselves for the blow surely coming. Would Hume ask whether the Sunni reconciliation had come solely because of fear of the majority Shia? Or whether Shiite partisans dominate the Iraqi army and police force, turning them into sectarian militias and leading to the conclusions of the Jones report, which said that the national Iraqi police force should be disbanded altogether?

Not quite. Instead, Hume wanted to talk about the new bogeyman of the right — and Fox News — Iran. He blamed the Iranians for the aforementioned Shiite “misbehavior” and problems with Shiite militias saying, “with Iranian influence [that’s] always something you worry about when it comes to the Shiites,” then going on to ask, “You indicated that Iran would be a big winner, in its own eyes at least, if this all went badly in Iraq. Why should we not believe that as progress is made with the Sunni, that progress is made militarily, that Iran could simply rachet up its interference in Iraq to the point where it would in the end spoil whatever progress is being made?”

So, when Hume decided to actually ask questions, it was merely to advance far-right memes (Iraq war = al Qaeda war) and far-right dreams (war with Iran). I can think of a variety of labels for this, but “journalism” isn’t one of them.

In the broader sense, though, the point to take away isn’t that Hume is a hack and Fox News is a joke (though that’s obviously true). The point is that Petraeus and Crocker went on Fox News to bolster Republicans. As publius explained, it’s a rather transparent strategy.

The administration has long since recognized that they’ve lost the public on Iraq — not to mention virtually all Democrats. I’m sure they also understand that these people are permanently lost and there’s no getting them back.

At the same time though, they recognize that Democrats lack the numbers to stop them (particularly veto-override numbers). Thus, whether the war continues or ends — escalates or de-escalates — depends entirely on the will of Republicans. Bush cannot be stopped unless and until congressional Republicans defect en masse. […]

With legs still wobbly on the GOP side, the administration (and thus Petraeus, their dependant subordinate) have a single strategy — reassure the base. They just need to prevent the floor from collapsing while they run out the clock with the Dean Smith Four Corners offense. For that reason, Petraeus is going on outlets like Hugh Hewitt and Fox News.

Again, it’s not that he’s ducking questions — he’s a smart guy and I’m sure he’d do just fine with those scary, scary reporters. No, it’s that he’s been drafted to keep the floor from collapsing.

Stay tuned.

Faux News reporters question like the moron mom at the beginning of the movie “Real Genius” with Val Kilmer. She starts out sounding smart by saying:

“Dr. Hathaway, I saw your show on radioactive isotopes and I’ve got just one question for you: Is that your real hair?”

It’s amazing how people will whore themselves out for money. Shame on Brit Hume and all of his ilk.

  • I can think of a variety of labels for this, but “journalism” isn’t one of them.

    May I suggest: unmitigated bullshit.

  • I feel like I need to write “I will not be so naive” on a blackboard 100 times to teach myself a lesson.

    Hold on to that naivete, my friend. It’s your shield and your meal ticket. Without it, you couldn’t keep pumping out post after post that always lead to the same place. I’d lose my mind if I tried to do what you do.

  • What’s the point of Fox News even existing if it just wants to make its programming a transparent commercial for the Bush administration?

    The point of Fox news is to be a commercial for the Bush administration. The fact that its attempts are transparent is irrelevant; transparency is one of those nuances that escapes Fox viewers — otherwise, it would have no viewers.

  • The sad fact is, that he wouldn’t have been allowed to go anywhere else even if he had wanted to. This isn’t making apologies, but to be in the military means giving up many things you would like to do. Being a general in a highly charged situations limits you even more. I would have much preferred if the General had given a more realistic picture of the surge and the situation in Iraq without political interferrence and intimidation from the White House, but this is the Bush White House and he was never going to be allowed to to tell it like it is. They have too much invested in this. Sure I wish the General had just said my duty to the country and troops is more important than your legacy but he is only a General the president is the Commander and Chief which counts for more than I think most of us realize, and lets not forget that getting to be a general and being a general is a political position.

  • “General, I have a question with regard to the interview with Brit Hume on Fox News that you and Ambassador Crocker gave last night. You are probably aware that many if not most progressives in America view that particular news outlet as being uniquely biased in favor of the point of view of the Bush White House on the subject of the Iraq War and, indeed, on any subject that you might care to select. Those progressives, including myself, think that when you appeared there, you were both preaching to the already-converted, and avoiding the possibility of having to answer a challenging question from a journalist. General, how did you happen to choose Fox News as the right venue for your exclusive interview, and will you make yourself available to other news media for similar interviews?”

  • Why focus on shoring up the base? Because Cheney says all they need is 35% approval to attack Iran.

    http://www.juancole.com/2007/08/cheney-iran-here-we-go-again.html

    What worries me is that the Dimocrats seem to think the Republicans aren’t that crazy, which of course mirrors CB’s initial point. They are that craven, they are that crazy, and they are that desperate.

    Our Dimocratic “leadership” needs to write “I will not be so naive” on a blackboard 100 times to teach themselves a lesson.

  • “…I will not be so naive…”

    I wouldn’t confuse a lack of hardened cynicism with naivete. As Haik notes, if you ever became as cynical as some bloggers you’d stop and the tubes would be the worse for it, for cynicism is a dead end and a cop-out — even when entirely justified.

  • What’s the point of Fox News even existing if it just wants to make its programming a transparent commercial for the Bush administration?

    The question answers itself.

    I’m not the least surprised. Reaching out to the opposition is something the Republicans have had so little of that their ability to even fake doing it has atrophied. They are the prisoners of their own propaganda anymore, and even acknowledging reality is impossible. Like the old Soviet Union, if they allowed even a small bit of honesty to peek out, the whole structure of lies would collapse.

  • Petraeus and Crocker could have insisted that they be allowed to appear on other networks. What was Bush going to do – fire them? They didn’t because of the slight chance that they’d actually get some tough questions about the puppies and ponies gamboling through yesterday’s hearings.

    I repeat: anyone who thinks that David Petraeus doesn’t harbor political ambitions should turn their affairs over to a conservator.

  • CB: I feel like I need to write “I will not be so naive” on a blackboard 100 times to teach myself a lesson.

    You’ll know you have arrived when your wife has to edit out various instances of “General Betrayus” from your posts…

    Until then… I’ve got an extra box of chalk 🙂

  • “I wouldn’t confuse a lack of hardened cynicism with naivete”

    Exactly – and there are two kinds of cynicism. One that leads you to say “I give up!” and go into a shell; then there’s the kind that makes you read “A Briefing for America” and shout “Oh for crying out loud”!

    We need to pledge allegiance to a nation of the latter kind of cynics.

  • I’ve started referring to he mainstream media’s product as “Propaganda News,” and the only reason to watch it is to see how much of the story they tell, what they leave out that would completely change how people react to it, and whether they get any of the major facts right. Most nights, it’s pretty bad, and I’m constantly saying to my husband, “What they aren’t telling you is…” or “how would you feel about that story if you knew that…?”

    Fox is welcome to be the Directorate of Information for the Homeland, as long as we have at least one Citizens’ Truth Channel somewhere – the problem is that we don’t, not really. We cobble together the truth by combing through the blogs, gleaning bits from the few TV and print reporters who still understand what investigative journalism is.

    What I do know is that David Petraeus may be an intelligent man of considerable experience, but those stars on his shoulders do not elevate him to mythic hero status, they don’t immunize him from criticism and they don’t translate to truth, and the sooner he starts being questioned as if he is accountable to Congress, the better.

  • 4.
    On September 11th, 2007 at 9:47 am, Swan said:
    …We will never forget…
    ——————————————
    Sadly, my dear Swan, We The People will, indeed, forget. Again. Like we always have. In a few months, the GOP talking points will be about how many troops have come home, and moderate Republicans will crow triumphantly that Bush ‘stayed the course’, held out against those who would betray their country by bugging out before it was time.

    My current meme: There are a bit less than 500 days remaining in the current administration. In the past 500 days, over 1000 US soldiers have died. How many will die before Bush leaves office?

    Point to the ones that we can afford to sacrifice in this fool’s game.

  • What’s the point of Fox News even existing if it just wants to make its programming a transparent commercial for the Bush administration?

    Is that a rhetorical question?

    Publius answered this when explaining Petraeus’ role in all of this. The U.S. public is lost on the War already. Bush isn’t even trying to talk to them anymore. This is all happenening because Congress required it, and Bush (using Petraeus) is only really interested in talking to Republicans and shoring up the base…

    To me, it’s pretty simple. It’s not that Petraeus is dodging hard questions. It’s that Bush is no longer trying to persuade the nation about the war – in fact, he’s not really even talking to them. He’s just trying to persuade Republicans.

    The administration has long since recognized that they’ve lost the public on Iraq — not to mention virtually all Democrats. I’m sure they also understand that these people are permanently lost and there’s no getting them back.

    […] With legs still wobbly on the GOP side, the administration (and thus Petraeus, their dependant subordinate) have a single strategy — reassure the base. They just need to prevent the floor from collapsing while they run out the clock with the Dean Smith Four Corners offense. For that reason, Petraeus is going on outlets like Hugh Hewitt and Fox News.

    Again, it’s not that he’s ducking questions — he’s a smart guy and I’m sure he’d do just fine with those scary, scary reporters. No, it’s that he’s been drafted to keep the floor from collapsing. And on that front, he’s done a pretty good job frankly.

  • Petraeus is Kurt von Schleicher redux.

    A political general attempting to play kingmaker. And, yes, he’ll take a turn at playing a king.

  • Start writing CB because the reason you say you don’t post about attacking Iran is that the subject of attack comes up every couple of months and never plays out and so you really don’t buy into it. Cheney did say they only needed 35% approval to get away with attacking Iran and now they have it. (thus the “presentation” of a successful military operation via Fox) Bush boasts that he will make it impossible for the next president to leave Iraq and that he will not leave Iran an open ended situation while he is still in office.
    Get congress to start writing with you because they believe Bush must get authorization from congress before he can attack Iran while Bush has already informed congress by letter that he will not even consult congress if and when he feels it necessary to “deal with Iran”

    . The senate signed off unanimously on calling Iran’s activities an act of war and condemning Iran in the Lieberman proposal a couple of months ago. They, like you, don’t really believe in spite of all the evidence that Bush will attack Iran. Dem senators claim that proposal was just a sign of disapproval of Iran’s activities not an authorization to attack them (It called Iran’s activities an “Act of War” and condemned them for those activities). Start writing senators.

    Fox and the shows it airs is a propaganda machine backed up by the WSJ and the post. Just the fact that the so called Petraeus/Crocker interview was actually a presentation to sell the policy of Bush proves the extent this administration is going to sell the surge and to set up an Iran attack. This is the most outlandish effort to sell us this bogus military operation and people are saying I can’t believe he’s doing this…and when Iran is attacked…they will say I can’t believe he did that…I just really didn’t think he would. Start writing.

    ***btw ET*** Generals know how to say no. Petraeus is not a great man and General…He is a military propagandist and opportunist who has been bought by Bush and sold to the American public. Saying I respect him just means you don’t want to be attacked by those holding him up as some kind of God. He wouldn’t sell out his own troops to get ahead. Start writing.

  • The point of Fox news is to be a commercial for the Bush administration.

    I’d amend that to “…be a commercial for the GOP. which is why when a Dem takes over the White House in 2009, Fox news should be treated like a pariah. No interviews, no talking points, no access. And MSNBC or whatever cable news channel is deemed to be the most damaging to Fox gets to have virtually all of the exclusive interviews and incredible access to senior adminstration personnel.

    I’m not saying that MSNBC or CNN shouldn’t still ask tough questions and actually act as journalists, I’m just saying that Fox News should be loudly decried as a partisan outlet and treated accordingly. I don’t recall President Clinton giving exclusive interviews to the RNC. Fox News is just the RNC with a cable broadcast license and slightly better production values.

  • I think the secret of this one is that if Hume had asked faux-tough questions, it might lead some people to believe that tough questions needed to be asked. But by just letting him talk, it seems as if that’s what was supposed to happen. As if there is no need to ask anything further of Petraeus or pretend to grill him, because he’s already said everything that needs to be said and he’s above the whole “interview” thing.

    I honestly don’t know who I feel worse for Petraeus or Hume. I’m sure they both know what a sham the whole thing is, but feel compelled to go through with it. That’s got to suck. Every time I see Hume, he just looks like more of an empty shell; like a heroin addict who keeps getting closer and closer to the edge with each fix. Things must have been a lot easier when people liked Bush.

  • Welcome to the era of Big Brother, brought to you by the Bush crime family (which includes all the corporate networks and cables).

    I’d like to know how much money (and future money and position) Betrayus and Cocksucker expect to make out of their service to Bush during the Iraq Quagmire. Of course, I’m sure that prospect wouldn’t color their thoughts on the subject.

  • Again, it’s not that he’s ducking questions — he’s a smart guy and I’m sure he’d do just fine with those scary, scary reporters. No, it’s that he’s been drafted to keep the floor from collapsing.

    So, he really is General Betrayus.

  • I think we’ve pretty much established that bringing about political unity is not Gen. Petreaus’ bailiwick. In fact, that’s sort of a pattern among those who got us into and keep us in this war. One wonders whether it is even a goal.

  • Funny, but are you missing the big picture (or more correctly, the extremely small picture)? Experiencing the seemingly separateness of things, say John Stewart,(or even Bush himself) and yourself, the viewer, as two different entities is deceptive, when in fact we and everything in the universe are all a bunch of swirling tornados of molecules and atoms, and, if you really want to get down, quarks and their various attracting/repelling strong/weak forces, running into each other and giving the false reading of separate “things”, keeping in mind that none of this would be possible if it weren’t for the uncertainty principle which forced the relative ordered and unified Big Bang to fly apart and then coalesce into the objects we see today, you know, galaxies, stars, planets, people, and pints of lager. It’s the third law of thermodynamics and you just can’t drive around it, nor does it respond to “WTF!”! Instead of everything everywhere flying apart at faster and faster rates of speed, just like you would assume when a uniform singularity like the universe before the big bang would be like, as it would result in a “uniform” explosion, the assumption is that there would be no anomalies to slow down enough that their gravity would instead cause random sections to collapse within themselves and form “things”. But I’m getting way ahead of myself here. We’re all illusory parts off the same thing. And some of those parts have a fake Texas accent and are criminally stupid. And so can babble on (Babylon?) incessantly and confuse at even greater levels.

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