Failing to plan is planning to fail

When it comes to Donald Rumsfeld and Iraq, the problem isn’t necessarily that he had an ineffective plan for the post-combat period, it’s that he intentionally didn’t want any plan at all.

Long before the United States invaded Iraq in 2003, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld forbade military strategists to develop plans for securing a postwar Iraq, the retiring commander of the Army Transportation Corps said.

Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid told the Newport News Daily Press in an interview published yesterday that Rumsfeld had said “he would fire the next person” who talked about the need for a postwar plan.

Scheid was a colonel with the U.S. Central Command, the unit that oversees military operations in the Middle East, in late 2001 when Rumsfeld “told us to get ready for Iraq.”

“The secretary of defense continued to push on us . . . that everything we write in our plan has to be the idea that we are going to go in, we’re going to take out the regime, and then we’re going to leave,” Scheid said. “We won’t stay.”

We’ve heard reports like this before, but when a Central Command colonel goes public like this, with these details, it’s still surprising. Indeed, Scheid went on to explain that Army officials wanted to craft a plan to cover post-invasion operations such as security, stability and reconstruction, but “I remember the secretary of defense saying that he would fire the next person that said that.”

The implications of these comments are important, for at least two reasons.

First, Rumsfeld’s failure to even consider a rebuilding plan is the surest sign yet that his tenure at the Pentagon is beyond defense. During a Senate debate the other day about a no-confidence vote Dems wanted, a series of Republican lawmakers said Rumsfeld has done a fine job. I’d love to hear those same senators respond to Brig. Gen. Scheid’s perspective.

And second, as Kevin Drum noted, it further contradicts the president’s so-called “freedom agenda.”

And this also means that all of Bush’s talk about democracy was nothing but hot air. If you’re serious about planting democracy after a war, you don’t plan to simply topple a government and then leave.

So: the lack of postwar planning wasn’t merely the result of incompetence. It was deliberate policy. There was never any intention of rebuilding Iraq and there was never any intention of wasting time on democracy promotion. That was merely a post hoc explanation after we failed to find the promised WMD.

It’s really as simple as that.

From the NPDN, a smoking gun?

“[Rumsfeld] said we will not do that because the American public will not back us if they think we are going over there for a long war.”

I’m posting a link to the actual article so folks can see the Brigadier has no political drum to beat, he’s not angry, he actually seems more bewildered:

http://www.dailypress.com/news/dp-21075sy0sep08,0,2264542.story?page=1&coll=dp-widget-news

I, on the other hand, am angry enough to puke.

  • So what, exactly, was the objective of this debacle in the first place?
    WMD? Nope. None.
    Saddam’s ties to al qaeda? Zilch. Zippo.
    Spread democracy? When making plans to institute one is a fireable offense?
    The oil? Without a plan for securing Iraq after the war, how did they figure to install and maintain the necessary infrastructure?
    It doesn’t leave much, does it?
    I can only come up with 2 reasons:
    Contracts for cronies.
    Manipulation of American domestic politics.
    In either case, impeachment should be the least of the penalties.

  • The continuous drip-drip-drip of evidence being revealed, proving everything I’ve been saying about these scumbags for years to be true, is getting maddening.

    I mean, it’s gone beyond providing me the warm satisfaction that I was right, through the temptation to become full-of-myself, or cynical, and on into the continuous, chronic pain and heartache stage, where I wonder why these men still have their jobs and walk free, and think about how sad it is that it really was as bad as I thought, over and over and over and over. There is so much of it it hurts.

    I truly believe we need to get all these things revealed, but I wish we could just ‘pull the bandage off all-at-once’, scream, and get it over with. Sadly, their crimes are far too numerous and widespread for that to actually work.

    Sigh.

  • This revelation is important on two counts. First, it highlights the falsity of the Bush Administration’s claim that it went into this war to spread democracy—if this truly were the Administration’s war rationale the Administration would have been required to plan for a post-war occupation to ensure the establishment of the usual institutions of democracy. General Scheid’s comments clearly show that the “spreading of democracy and freedom” theme was only devised by the Administration to cover its original distortions regarding the existence of Iraqi WMD. Second, and the reason this revelation is stunning, is that this highlights the depths to which this Administration will stoop to cover its errors and remain in power. This Administration, and its enablers, has consistently painted war critics as “cut and run traitors” and “appeasers.” Turns out, though, that Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfeld & Co. were for cutting and running before they were against cutting and running. This is the mother of all flip flops, revealing that the Administration is willing to allow our soldiers to die by the thousands just to cover its errors and its political behind.

  • Spreading democracy is just a euphemism for spreading free market capitalism so that American corporations can control the oil industries of nations like Iraq. They went into Iraq for the oil.

    I don’t read much into this. I think they truly believed the toppling of Saddam would be a cakewalk (it was), and that the formation of a free market economy and western friendly government in Iraq would be just as easy and successful. They did not anticipate the need for a massive, violent, bloody occupation lasting years and years. They blew it. They were just too cocky.

  • I’d like to note three additional things:

    1. I sometimes wonder how many big stories never reach beyond their local readership. This is a only brief news note in the WP. Making me want to scream WHY? I just searched, using Scheid’s name, and found four other papers (small ones) have picked this up. This shows that journalism is still alive and well, but some times you just have to wait until some one at a bigger news outlet decides to follow up. Which they had better.

    2. I’m sure I can hear the turbines on the White House spin machines revving up. Soon we’ll hear the Brigadier General is a former cattle rapist who used to smoke crack with OBL.

    3. Most importantly, thank gods for people like Brig. Gen. Scheid who aren’t afraid to speak, reporters like Ms. Heinatz, and papers like the NPDN. I imagine there are a number of editors who would have killed this story, and possibly the reporter.

    Oh yeah. I hope Runny crapped his pants when heard about this. Assuming he can crap. He’s likely all hard steel and oil in there.

  • JoeW:

    So what, exactly, was the objective of this debacle in the first place?

    Saddam wouldn’t play the lackey for American oil companies.
    If he had… the second gulf war wouldn’t have taken place.

    In short: it has always been about the oil.
    Any other explanation is pure propaganda.
    Don’t drink the koolaid man:
    It is all about the OIL! OIL!
    Liquid Lebensraum….

    So initially, the plan was to deal with Saddam.
    In other words: pay him to sell off his oil cheap for weapons and security.

    When that failed we tried to assassinate him.

    When that failed… Rummy thougth he could go in there… change the regime to one that could be bought… and slip out quickly.

    Remember:
    It is ALL ABOUT THE OIL.
    Always has been.
    Always will be.

    Remember in the first day of the occupation:
    We did not guard the antiquities museums, we guarded the oil ministry.

    Remember.

    That’s why there was no initial planning for occupancy.

    The problem was…
    It didn’t work out the way they planned.

    They got greedy.
    They got suckered deeper into Iraq.
    Their confidence exceeded their wisdom…
    They got fucked.

    They are now paying the price for their hubris.

    I will go even one step further:
    The people in Iraq who continue to blow up the pipelines…
    Whoever they are…
    Those people… are the most essential people alive today.
    They are defeating the corporatocracy that wants cheap oil and expansive profits.

    They are in effect saying: NO!
    You can’t have these resources for the price of bribing the current puppet leader of Iraq.

    NO! NO! NO!

    It is all about the oil baby.
    Always has been.
    Always will be.

  • The question, then, is, what was the strategy behind find the WMD and get out? Had we gone in, found the WMD, would we then . . . . what? Show Chalabi riding into Baghdad in a Hummvee? This makes no sense!! Why would Rumsfeld think we would just get out? . . . . Oh, sorry! I forgot, the idea was to go in, find some WMD, find some reason to build permanent bases, while the country regroups, and encourage anarchy, in order to cover croniism at its finest. I think that’s called raping and pillaging both sides at the same time. Do you feel raped, yet?

  • I have to disagree koreyel. Saddam was always more than happy to sell oil to American companies. He even did so, on the sly, as we embargoed his oil. I have no doubt that the oil was a consideration, given the priority of securing the petroleum infrastructure after ‘mission accomplished’. But, even that effort was as 1/2 baked as it was 1/2 hearted.
    You have to look at the things they were serious about. The things they actually planned for. Near as I can tell, that was limited to contracts for cronies and manipulation of the American electorate.

  • You Libs in your coccoon are funny! Some military guy says something in the paper attacking Rumsfeld, the in vogue thing these days, and you guffaw all over yourselves?? Who knows what his agenda is.

    Could be a Dem hack like Joe “Hack” Wilson”. Those folks exist in the military, active duty and retired, you know. Keep patting yourselves on the back in the nutroot coccoon while you egg on the biased MSM. This Admin is about to run circles around you folks. Good Luck!

  • Iran-Contra was worse than Watergate. And the current debacle is worse than both of them. Together.

  • “I’d love to hear those same senators respond to Brig. Gen. Scheid’s perspective.”

    Campaign season is a good time to ask for those answers.

  • Could be a Dem hack like Joe “Hack” Wilson”.
    [Smooth Jazz]

    Dear me. There goes another one. Reacting without having a single clue what is going on. Or even taking a second to read the full article. Oh well, I guess the increasingly shrill and desperate* cheerleading squad figures that what works for Bush & Co. will work for them.

    *I don’t mean desperate to keep Bush in power, I mean desperate to believe the man. It’s OK. You can still be a good Republican, you’ll probably be a BETTER Republican if you just…walk away.

  • So was the Iraq invasion was all laid out in the PNAC or did they simply have no plan? Which is it? It can’t be both.

    Iraq had no WMD? Well, I guess Clinton just keeps on lying, huh? Here’s two quotes from Billy BJ:

    Former President Bill Clinton on Dec. 16, 1998, stated, “Other countries possess weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles. With Saddam, there is one big difference: He has used them. Not once, but repeatedly. Unleashing chemical weapons against Iranian troops during a decade-long war. Not only against soldiers, but against civilians, firing Scud missiles at the citizens of Israel, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Iran. And not only against a foreign enemy, but even against his own people, gassing Kurdish civilians in Northern Iraq … I have no doubt today, that left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will use these terrible weapons again …”

    Former President Clinton, in an appearance on “Larry King Live” on July 22, 2003, said, “… [I]t is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons. We might have destroyed them in ’98. We tried to, but we sure as heck didn’t know it because we never got to go back there.”

    So if Iraq has no terrorist/Al-Q connection, why are they there now DYING? Oh, we made it, as bin Laden calls it, the central front in the war on terror. And why that is a bad thing now that much of M.E. terrorism is focused in one place?

    The idea that there was no plan for the post-war occupation is so stupid only the world’s most braindead could believe such a thing. There are entire Def. Dept. division who do nothing but draw up attack and occupation plans. Get a grip, Marxists.

  • Of course, when the Clinton Justice Dept. made the connection between Iraq and Al-Q, that was….just some rightwing blather?

    From the Justice Department indictment on Nov. 4, 1998, charging bin Laden with murder in the bombings of two U.S. embassies in Africa: “Al Qaeda also forged alliances with the National Islamic Front in the Sudan and with the government of Iran and its associated terrorist group Hezbollah for the purpose of working together against their perceived common enemies in the West, particularly the United States. In addition, al Qaeda reached an understanding with the government of Iraq that al Qaeda would not work against that government and that on particular projects, specifically including weapons development, al Qaeda would work cooperatively with the government of Iraq.”

  • Although Rumsfeld’s position as DefSec is now without any justifiable merit, he will not go—because he is foundational to Herr Bush’s overall strategy: Control Through Fear.

    If, for example, we were to pull our military resources from Iraq, they would be available for redeployment to Afghanistan—and the United States might actually go on the offensive in that theater. The compiling of American field victories in Afghanistan would, by default, require Pakistan to rethink its safe-harbor dealings with the Taliban and Al Quaeda, and whether they wanted a quarter-million angsty Americans—with lots of guns, no less—threatening to come through their mountain passes.

    America out of Iraq would allow the Iraqis—if they wanted democracy, by the way—to develop a form of the philosophy that fits Iraq, rather than forcing upon them “Herr Bush’s Democracy”—and we all know what that’s like.

    America out of Iraq would also equate to fewer flag-draped coffins coming home, and far less blood with which to bathe the altars of the GOP war-gods: Raytheon, Hallibuton, Exxon, General Electric, FOX…and the list goes on….

  • Some military guy says something in the paper attacking Rumsfeld, the in vogue thing these days,[…] #13, Smooth Jazz

    And it doesn’t make you pause… Not even for a second… To wonder why so many generals — retired or not — are saying that Rumsfeld has screwed up, BIG? It’s just a matter of fashion for them — like a color of a stripe down the sides of their uniform? They may have been involved with the whole fiasco intimately — before and during — but they don’t know whereof they speak? They’re all dummies, and Rummy is the Bush-annointed *brain*… Is that what you’re saying?

    I may be living in a cocoon (check your spelling ), but you have obviously fallen out of yours, all the way down the mulberry tree, and dicked your nob. I hope your puppet masters provide you with sufficient health insurance; I’d hate to know I’m paying taxes to cover your visits to the emergency rom…

  • “To wonder why so many generals — retired or not — are saying that Rumsfeld has screwed up, BIG?”

    Wow, employees bitching about their boss. Historically low casualties, Saddam on trial, Iraq with a new govt. How many General support Rumsfeld? We’ll never know since the press will never cover that.

    Sure, there’ve been some screw ups, bad decisions, etc. But so what? That’s common to every war. Get some perspective, for crying out loud.

    “altars of the GOP war-gods: Raytheon, Hallibuton, Exxon, General Electric,”
    Partisan nonsense. Who did Clinton use for Bosnia? The Girl Scouts and the ACLU? Funny how the Left is more concerned with companies profitting, yet doesn’t give a rip about more people living in freedom and a tyrant on trial for war crimes. Says a lot, doesn’t it?

    “Herr Bush’s Democracy”—and we all know what that’s like.”
    Ooh, the Nazi reference. LOL! Is this the best you can do? Sadly, yes. Uh, Nazis wanted to kill Jews. Bush wants to kill terrorists. See the difference?

    The Left STILL lionizes murderous thugs like Castro; is Cindy S. still kissing up to Hugo C.? Of course she is. You guys are no one to lecture about democracy and freedom. Oh, by the way, how about them Dems threatening to revoke ABC’s FCC license for showing a movie? Yet, Michael Moore walks free. I don’t hear Bush calling for censorship of this new docudrama that fictionalizes his assassination. Do you?

    Bush is going to continue to push for Privatizing Social Sec., while the Dems are going to go balls to wall against it. Wanna tell me which side represents Democracy more? Or let me put it this way: since when does the govt. controlling your wealth equal more democracy?

    Of course, no one ever bothered to refute my other pts. regarding Iraq and Al-Q and Clinton. Because you can’t.

  • Oh, by the way, if Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid didn’t support your political agenda, you’d treat him with the same amount of disrespect and disdain that you have for all things military. You know you would, and don’t give me some nonsense about supporting the troops but not the mission.

    Lefties support nothing but their own selfish politcal ends.

  • Dear President Bush,

    Once again we see that a general has stepped forward to report how Secretary Rumsfeld has mismanaged the Iraq war. We, like the majority of the Senate, have lost faith in the Secretary’s abilities. You are not being well served by him, and should fire him and pick someone who can get the job done. To do anything else is a complete failure of leadership.

    We were united behind you after 9/11 to bring the terrorists to justice and protect our country from further attacks. We accepted your plan of action despite concern in the military, and your own administration, that the intelligence, and the plan was flawed and was a diversion from our real enemies and our real goals.

    In hindsight, those patriotic soldiers and citizens were right. We are incredibly dismayed that you have mired our brave men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan, and are somehow managing to lose a conflict to a bunch of guys that live in caves in Pakistan. Telling the citizens of the US that it’s will be the next President’s problem is NOT ACCEPTABLE. We want results, not excuses.

    Until we do vote for a new leader, we have to work as citizens to protect our country from your failures. We will be electing a new Congress with a mandate to change the direction of OUR COUNTRY. You will do the job you swore to do with your Oath of Office and work with the Congress, your equals, to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.

    We were glad to see you try to work with the Congress concerning the tribunals, but quite frankly, the whole plan is flawed and Congress and the Supreme Court is right in rejecting it. Propose a better plan. You had better not screw this up too. These terrorists should have had their day in court and been hung by now.

    America has generously given you five years of almost unlimited power to subdue our enemies, but you have failed. We are a tolerate people, but enough is enough. If you cannot get the job done, then as the old saying goes, you need to follow or just get out of the way. America does not support losers.

    Your boss,

    John Q. Public

  • “Oh, we made it, as bin Laden calls it, the central front in the war on terror. And why that is a bad thing now that much of M.E. terrorism is focused in one place?”
    –So bin Laden is telling us where to fight?
    Also, if you were a member of al Qaeda hell bent on launching an attack on the US, would you:

    a) take the US military head on in Iraq, in the kind of fighting it has never been defeated, or
    b) go after less protected targets around the world.

    “Wow, employees bitching about their boss.”
    –Well, if my boss was a major FUBAR, then yes, yes I would.

    “Historically low casualties”
    –The fact that the US forces in Iraq have better protection against battlefield hazards (at least those who can get it), as well as the ability to treat wounded on a scale unavailable to past conflicts, is not to the credit of Rumsfeld. Without the armor and medical advances, chances are the casualty rate would be the same as during the Vietnam War.

    “Saddam on trial, Iraq with a new govt.”
    –Having Saddam answer for his crimes isn’t a bad thing. And Iraq does have a new government. It sucks, but it’s a start, I suppose.

    “Sure, there’ve been some screw ups, bad decisions, etc. But so what? That’s common to every war. Get some perspective, for crying out loud.”
    –Isn’t that a quote from McClellan to Lincoln?

    “Oh, by the way, if Brig. Gen. Mark E. Scheid didn’t support your political agenda, you’d treat him with the same amount of disrespect and disdain that you have for all things military.”
    -What exactly is his political agenda? The same as Iraq critic William F. Buckley?
    As for “disrespect and disdain”, I served my country proudly as an infantryman in the United States Army, and it was the best years my life. So I take offense to your comment.
    up yours, REMF

    “Funny how the Left is more concerned with companies profitting, yet doesn’t give a rip about more people living in freedom and a tyrant on trial for war crimes.”
    –Iraq and Afghanistan right now are examples of freedom? Rising sectarian violence and a resurgent Taliban? As for the tyrant on trial for war crimes, like I said, can’t argue that it’s a bad thing. And I take it you don’t think the US government should make the best effort to ensure the taxpayers aren’t getting ripped off by people who put their company’s bottom line above our national security.

    “Ooh, the Nazi reference.”
    –Kind of like your “Marxist” reference? Any proof that someone here has ever endorsed communism?
    And isn’t it “Oooo”, not “Ooh”?

    “Bush wants to kill terrorists.”
    –But he just can’t get the head huncho. You know, that guy that’s behind 9/11. Oh, what’s his name…….?

    “Who did Clinton use for Bosnia? The Girl Scouts and the ACLU?”
    –No, actually it was concentrated air power followed by ground forces, with the only combat casualty being a SFC who stepped on a landmine.

    “Oh, by the way, how about them Dems threatening to revoke ABC’s FCC license for showing a movie?”
    –Like, who?

    “The Left STILL lionizes murderous thugs like Castro”
    –To repeat my last question, like who?

    “Of course, no one ever bothered to refute my other pts. regarding Iraq and Al-Q and Clinton. Because you can’t.”
    –No, those are correct, they were made by the DoJ and the Bill Clinton.
    But I do find it amusing that you are using Clinton administration documents (an administration that you seem to not really like) to justify the war in Iraq, when you have the most recent findings of the bi-partisan Senate Intelligence Committee:

    From the report above, it would appear that the Clinton administration assesments on Iraq’s WMD and links to al Qaeda were wrong. Fortunately, invading the country was something Clinton decided wasn’t a good idea.
    “Billy BJ”? Seriously? And you think “Herr Bush” offends you?

    http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiaccuracy.pdf“Lefties support nothing but their own selfish politcal ends”
    –You’re right, politicians shouldn’t use US troops as a backdrop for their political speeches, or images of 9/11 (or, at least, actors protraying firefighters on 9/11) in their campaign ads. That’s just wrong.

  • JoeW…

    Thanks for your counter comments.

    I argue instead:

    To really understand why we went to Iraq,
    I think you’ve absolutely must understand
    who are the puppeteers and who are the puppets.

    Once that is understood you will realize the puppeteers don’t play for chump change. (Like spreading democracy or freeing Arab women. That noise is just a marketing ploy they employ to sell their plans to the gullible voters and asshat republicans with an insatiable desire for Koolaid.)

    The puppeteers are all about increasing their already intense power and wealth. They do this by controlling the most important resources on the planet via the creation of third world debt.

    They own Saudi Arabia’s oil.
    And that’s because the House of Saud was corruptible.
    They own Kuwait’s oil too.

    They don’t however yet own Iraq or Iran’s oil.

    Try and find time to listen to Jim Puplava’s interview with John Perkins (Confessions of an Economic Hit Man).

    Until you see the world from that perspective…
    You’ve no idea who are the masters and who are the slaves.

    One last thing…
    To any repug reading this who doesn’t believe it was ALL about the oil… This statement ought not to bother you overmuch:

    I hope those folks in Iraq keep blowing up their own pipelines.

    After all…
    America is in Iraq to grow democracy…. and not suck oil… Right?

    ROFLMAO.

  • You can always tell when we’re getting close to an election by the increased number of paid Republican trolls.

  • Isn’t it interesting that the cheerleaders don’t want to address that little gap of time between statements Clinton made in 1998 and the invasion of Iraq? And the FACT (there’s that ugly word again) that no WMDs are to be found? Wait, let me guess. Clinton stuffed them down Lewinski’s dress and smuggled them out of the country right after the US invaded as a favour to his pal Saddam.

    This is what I loathe about the Bush and his supporters (to distinguish them from Republicans and Conservatives who think he’s the worst thing to happen to this country since Pearl Harbor).

    When things go poorly it is never, ever their fault or “their guy’s” fault. Does anyone here know a person who never takes responsiblity for their mistakes? For those of you who’ve never had the pleasure, they’re called addicts and the inability to admit or even see a connection between their f___ked up actions and the f___ked up results is what makes them such a pleasure to be around. Assuming one likes people trashing one’s property and then pouting “Well, I had a bad day,” or “He’s the one who ran out of beer.” Now we’ve got people of the same mindset running the frickin’ country while their addled co-dependent followers egg them on for reasons that fewer and fewer people can comprehend. But that’s all the Addict in Chief needs. So long as Bush’s handlers can scrape up an audience of cheerleaders to applaud as he vomits into a microphone, anything he does must be OK.

    To the cheerleaders, I’d say, stay loyal. You make me laugh. Keep slinging the blame on Clinton, sweetiekins. Get on your roof and scream that the endless death parade in Iraq is all down to those icky liberals who won’t shut up. It will be good practice for when the historians get to work on this debacle.

    Repeat after me: “La, la, la! I can’t heeaar you!”

    Or you can get yourself to an Al-Anon meeting.

  • Dear Hmmm,
    I am an American citizen. I was born and raised in this country and culture. My father served the military for 21 years, in Viet Nam, and Europe.
    My Mother was 3 when the Nazis rolled into Belgium. She witnessed horrors at their hands.
    These people raised me with values. They taught me to read the enyclopedia for answers, not the Bible.
    I firmly believe in the Constitution of this great country, and I am deeply offended and angered by your blatant display of idiocy.
    That is why I am a Leftist. A Marxist. A Commie pinko liberal. I am who you distrust. I am the voice of deliberate, thoughtful debate. I am the sound of science questioning God.
    You are my inspiration. You inspire me to learn more truth, to educate others on how to dig through the muck you prefer to dwell in and sift out the truth.
    The Fathers of our nation designed the constitution to be a flexible, living , LIBERAL document, to aid us in governance to troubling times. Mr Bush and his ilk seek to destroy this. And you are helping. Pointing out minor contradictions in an otherwise successful foriegn policy is juvenile. Pointing out MAJOR lies, and abuses in a foreign policy is a citizens duty. Maybe you should have paid more attention during your public-paid civics class.
    I am proud of my Countries’ Liberal heritage. You should be too.

    You Go Orange!!
    You Go Koreyel!

  • Read Cobra II and The Assassin’s Gate. The complete lack of planning for the post-war phase is old news. They (Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, Cheney, etc) truly believed that Chalabi and entourage would sweep into power behind our guided weapons, sending Iran, Syria, and North Korea to their knees in shock and awe. Our high-tech military machine would then pull out, poised for another massive bolt of power against any who dared oppose us.

    Freedom, democracy, flowers, oil …

    Also actual planning would require time and undermine the confidence of the American people who needed to be hustled quickly into the war before too many questions were raised.

  • Why we wacked Iraq in the first place…. was it al qaeda, oil, wmd, domestic politics, freedom, UN resolutions, all the above, etc.,

    Occam’s Razor tells us that among several competing seemingly valid reasons – pick the most simple.

    What’s the one thread that connects this administration in all its operational endeavors?

    Incompetence.

    I think JB, in comment 31, sums it up well. – These guys thought it was going to be easy. Add in a healthy dose of arrogance with a double dose of dangerous incompetance and you get the mess we have today. Diplomacy is hard and does not provide any instant gratification. Wacking Sadaam and waving the flag felt good in 2002-03 and seemed easier at the time.

    But hey, if it feels good, just do it. Budget deficits to finance tax cuts. A war paid on the country’s credit card. America’s goodwill depleted around the world. Future generations left to clean up the mess.

    Incompetence w/arrogance. Now we are going to be paying the price for some time to come.

  • Of course he didn’t plan and didn’t want to talk about it. First, that is not what DoD does. Second, we were going to be “greeted as liberators” so there would be nothing to rebuild because nothing was going to be destroyed. Third, US contractors and US business would come in and because the Iraqi’s would be so grateful, companies/contractors would get everything they wanted and things would be peachy.

    I knew at the time there was no plan for after. I knew after was going to be a problem. That along with the fact that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 and Al Queda and the fact that Afghanistan wasn’t remotely close to being finished and Iraq was going to drain the resources, was the reason I was opposed to Iraq. I saw this and I have no military background, no background in the Middle East, nothing beyond just my reading ability and the ability to open my eyes – that Rummy was so willfully blind is not only mind-bogling but criminal.

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