Far-right activists pick their favorite fatal — but preventable — disease

I’ve done a few posts on conservative Republican activists’ efforts to block a vaccine against human papillomavirus (HPV), but there’s just something about their crusade that never ceases to amaze me. Andrew Sullivan noted Michael Specter’s new article that explains why the right is willing — indeed, is anxious — to stand in the way of a safe, effective vaccine.

Religious conservatives are unapologetic; not only do they believe that mass use of an HPV vaccine or the availability of emergency contraception will encourage adolescents to engage in unacceptable sexual behavior; some have even stated that they would feel similarly about an H.I.V. vaccine, if one became available.

“We would have to look at that closely,” Reginald Finger, an evangelical Christian and a former medical adviser to the conservative political organization Focus on the Family, said. “With any vaccine for H.I.V., disinhibition” – a medical term for the absence of fear – “would certainly be a factor, and it is something we will have to pay attention to with a great deal of care.” Finger sits on the Centers for Disease Control’s Immunization Committee, which makes those recommendations.”

Let’s be clear here. There is a vaccine that is literally 100% effective in preventing cervical cancer and precancerous changes tied to two types of a common sexually transmitted virus. But for the right, the vaccine may let young people believe they can have sex without getting cervical cancer, so, naturally, as far as they’re concerned, the vaccine must not be available.

A vaccine could prevent more than 200,000 women from dying of cervical cancer each year (including 5,000 women in the United States). As New Scientist recently reported, deaths from cervical cancer could jump fourfold to a million a year by 2050, mainly in developing countries, all of which are preventable with this vaccine.

The far-right GOP base doesn’t seem to care. It comes down to a fairly straightforward position: The vaccine may lead to more pre-marital sex, so let those hundreds of thousands of women die a painful death.

One should be cautious about throwing around phrases such as “pro-cancer,” but given the circumstances, doesn’t the label fit?

I think the churches should be investigated just like any other criminal conspiracy. The same blanket charge should be leveled against any GOP reich-wing group which is opposed to health, which is in fact “pro-cancer” or “pro-HIV/AIDs”.

  • Pretty straightfoward, isn’t it? If you do not share their brand of morality, you deserve to die. Why? Cause they say so. End of story.

  • The conception of Sin which is bound up with Christian ethics is one that does an extraordinary amount of harm, since it affords people an outlet for their sadism which they believe to be legitimate, and even noble. Take, for example, the question of the prevention of syphilis. It is known that, by precautions taken in advance, the danger of contracting this disease can be made negligible. Christians, however, object to the dissemination of knowledge of this fact, since they hold it good that sinners should be punished. They hold this so good that they are even willing that punishment should extend to the wives and children of sinners. There are in the world at the present moment many thousands of children suffering from congenital syphilis who would never have been born but for the desire of Christians to see sinners punished. I cannot understand how doctrines leading us to this fiendish cruelty can be considered to have any good effects upon morals. – Betrand Russell

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    How did the religion get to the point where disease is favorable to sex? I am by no means an expert on these matters, but I wish to speculate on this nonetheless. I have always thought that religion has originated in man’s efforts to understand and control his environment; the same efforts which has lead to the development science and modern technology. Certainly then one can imagine that prohibitions against sex arose from a need to prevent disease and unwanted pregnancies. In effect the religious doctrines were a pre-scientific stab at medicine and birth control. Religions enforced these prohibitions, which were worldly in origin, by reference to the supernatural myths and an elaborate social structure whose power derived from these myths. As science progressed and it became possible to achieve the goals of disease prevention and birth control without recourse to religion, the social structure which religion has set up for these very reasons has found itself threatened. As I see it, it is the desire to maintain power which has forced religion into the position of favoring disease and unwanted pregnancies, in contradiction to religions original motivations.

    Perhaps the historians of religion and science and the sociologists out there can tell me if I am on the right track.

  • Rege,

    I loved the Russell quote (as I love nearly all his writings – he is, above all, clear).

    You may have something there in your thought about religion and sex. From what I learned religion arose as an effort to explain, then control, natural events which were little understood (dreams, the coincidence of menstrual and lunar cycles, earthquakes, drought).

    Prohibitions against sex, however, arose primarily from the notion of wives and progeny as property. Prevention of disease had little to do with it; such disease was hardly understood and seldom discussed. Within the tribe, clan or family grouping the “pater familias” determined who did what to whom among his property, and toward outsiders “anythng goes” no matter how cruel. Disease as a consequence was seldom thought of.

    Of course property owners wrapped themselves in the going mythology, including religion, as they still do. Religion re-enforces power relations by positing an unseen punisher (ancestors, angels, God), even in the absence of actual human overseer. It is a powerful weapon for maintaining the power structurre, especially since it is mostly believed and practiced by those with no power whatsoever.

  • Besides all the obvious problems with their reasoning, one thing has always struck me about their rationale for opposing this vaccine in particular. In order for the possibility of developing this type of cancer to be a deterrent, it has to be known that the activity could result in the cancer. I’m an educated woman who is almost 40, and I never heard of this until the controversy over the vaccine arose.

    I have a 6-month old daughter and hope to raise her to protect herself from all types of dangers as she goes out into the world. Unfortunately, and as much as I hate to think about it, girls don’t always have a choice when it comes to sex. This is a no-brainer; I plan to get her this vaccine when she reaches the right age.

  • anytime one of these morons dares to espouse a “culture of life” or to be “pro-life” this should be immediately raised in response. “Pro-cancer” is a nice start, but I think a great case can be made that hardcore wingers are actually “anti-life.” Whether it is stem cell research, proper funding of social safety net programs, war mongering, unlimited access to firearms, despoiling of water and air, or blocking HPV drugs a vast portion of their agenda is objectively anti-life.

  • This is sickening, it is an abomination to think that this is acceptable in any way. I hope they all get cancer and die, they deserve worse, no way does the Christian God say that this is acceptable, and to twist this into something that they can use as a weapon against those opposed to the agenda they have is disgusting. I wish there was more I could do to out these people for the dispicable charletens that they are.

  • If you want to do some interesting reading, I suggest going back up to Rege’s post (#3) and clicking on that “Bertrand Russell” link. Think of it as a way giving Reginal Finger the finger.

  • The way I view this is that some men refuse to recognize women as sexual human beings. It is what I call “The Myth of the Virgin Mary” syndrome. These men expect women to remain virgins until marriage and when they don’t they must be punished. Too bad DNA testing wasn’t around when Mary was impregnated. Any anyone who believes that Mary was a virgin, is still living in the Dark Ages.

    That’s my take, and also, what Ed said in #4.

  • It might be interesting to see what kind of a battle develops. On one side we have Merck who is going to apply to the FDA for permission to sell the vaccine and on the other the fundamonkeys. Both sides wield enormous power in this administration. It could get interesting.

    I hate it that I’m saying this, but in this case I’m on the side of big pharma.

  • I’m a physician and I do Pap smears all day long. I am constantly explaining why we do Pap smears, what we’re looking for, and that it’s a sexually transmitted disease. Hardly anyone seems to know about the connection between HPV and cervical cancer. Hell, half the time they don’t understand what the Pap smear is for or what a cervix is. The idea that fear of cervical cancer is going to keep people from having sex is just ludicrous.

  • It’s just another sign that these people have never gotten laid – ever.

    Too bad for them. Maybe they ought to try it just once. Who knows, they might realize that it’s kinda fun. 😉

  • I think everyone in America, especially the young, should see the movie “Kinsey” (which I just saw last night). Actually, it would’ve helped if every fifth grader had seen it forty years before it was made. We really are a benighted country.

    LynChi, the Bible (New Testament, too) – as written and translated by men many years after the events portrayed – identifies basically two kinds of women: virgins and whores. They’re almost cartoon stereotypes compared to the wide variety of males portrayed there.

  • There are accounts of plantation owners who were careful not to allow their “negroes” to accumulate more that the barest amount of clothing or food or, god knows, education — because any of these could enable a slave to walk north to freedom.

    This “my sense of self is so important that I’ll willingly sacrifice others to it” lies deep in the American heart, I’m afraid. Entitlement. The right to take land from “savages,” to enslave, to pressgang for military adventure, to commit for the insanity of opposing the establishment, to castrate or sterilize to prevent the birth of beings “not like us,” and of course to make women answerable, in their biology, to a social system which still allows one gender more freedom, reward, and political sway.

  • Retribution and the soothing vision of carnally knowledgeable sinners roasting on a slowly turning rotisserie is sooooo much more satisfying than forgiveness.

    Where’s the payback? What, no pious self rightous f’n joy allowed by seeing/hearing the begging for mercy withheld because the sins were just too great for even a 4giving x-tian g*d to sanction.

    Revenge is sweet. And the x-tian’s don’t have a tooth in their pointy head’s.

  • Rather than call them the pro-cancer party, call ourselves the anti-cancer party. Or just picture the ad — So And So voted against a vaccine against cancer — is this the kind of person you want making decisions about your health care? (That assumes that anyone in Congress will be so foolish as to actually try to block the vaccine.)

  • Catherine, you raise a good point. If the Rs are going to push votes on a bunch of wedge issues all summer, the D’s should introduce legislation to prohibit the blocking of the anti-HPV vaccine. The Rs then have a touch call: kill the bill without an “up or down” vote (the horrors!) or let it go to the floor where they face a second dilemma – vote for the bill and anger the loonies on the right, or vote against it an let us run ads all fall “So and So voted to let you die of cancer.” We need to learn a few things from the Rethugs’ playbook. Here is an easy first lesson.

  • Don’t these guys have daughters?
    Controlling through fear seems to be the common thread with the religious right.

  • Well, you might think preventing cancer is a good thing.

    However, you forget that your life is finite but your soul is eternal.

    What would you rather do – have sex, not get cancer and go to hell or not have sex and go to heaven?

    Of course, the option of having sex, not getting cancer and getting through the pearly gates will never happen.

  • I think we should also refuse to vaccinate children of women who are not married in order to prevent out of wedlock pregnancy. Once women realize their children could die from preventable diseases if they are born out of wedlock, women will save themselves for marriage.

  • Thor Likes Pizza,

    Having sex is not optional for most of us (part of Intelligent Design, if you will).

    Not having this kind of cervical cancer is now completely within human control

    And getting through the Pearly Gates is a fairy story, like Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny.

  • From
    Dick Cheney’s inexplicable control

    NOTE TO rege

    Issue your name and address here for all to see and I will arrange a meeting. Again, I am not Chuck but you will learn who I am.

    You sir are either very young and have not yet learned basic manners or you are completely amoral. You cannot discuss issues against waumpuscat so instead you chose the tried and true method of all your ilk, the politics of personal destruction. You have just shown all how low a liberal can sink. You are disgusting.

    Publish your personal information, I am dying to meet you.

    Comment by bogie — 3/9/2006 @ 6:59 pm

    I am still waiting

  • Hi. I’m Chuck.

    I’m a working artist/designer.

    You know, if half the $$ that’s been thrown at the politicial disease HIV had been thrown at influenza, people wouldn’t be anywhere near as worried about the next wave of asian flu… Do not politicize or sexualize (dayum, but I don’t think that’s a word – but it sounds sorta cool…) disease mechanisms, unless you wish to throw lots and lots of $$ at bureaucracy, and little at actual research. Unless you’re one of the bureaucrats, I guess… Maybe you can have a meeting, and redefine the problem…

    And I will beyotchslap the first asswipe who calls me homophobic into the next century. I’m not gay, but I have shooting buddies who are.

    Leave your stereotypes at the door, please.

  • Bogieville, no straight man uses the term “beyotchslap.”

    As to HIV being a political disease, you’re right, but for the wrong reasons. Back in the day (1980’s) nobody gave a damn about gay men dying of HIV. It was only when Nancy Reagan’s friend got it and nice white middle class heteros got it that anyone cared. Meantime, I lost dozens of friends to HIV, who all probably deserved what they got anyway, according to the Fundies.

    Bitterly yours….

    Eeyore

  • re: post 24
    I repeat:
    Controlling through fear seems to be the common thread with the religious right.
    I know that bogie and waumpuscat are right wing provocateurs.
    Later, when real congressional investigations disclose republican dirty tricks… we may discover that guys like these were actually paid to attempt to slip turds in libral punchbowls.
    Their intent is simply to distract and divide… and now to intimidate.
    It is very motivating for me to see what we are up against, and how much determination and collective action it will take to reclaim America.

  • Oh helll, I’ll bite.

    Bogieville, you’re a homophobe. “Some of my best friends are gay/black/Mexican/women/fill in the blank here” is the last pathetic excuse of the ignorant bigot.

    Given that you can’t find your way to a military recruiter, I’m not terrribly worried about my chances of getting a “beyotchslap.”

  • So, are you saying that you do not have any friends who are gay, black, Mexican, or women? I’m sad for you.

    I also have friends who are Chinese, Japanese, Russian, Ukranian, Belgian, Italian… Oh heck… A whole buncha them.

    I do, however, think that it is pretty sad that we’re throwing million after million at a disease which affects a relatively small portion of the population, and which could be fairly easily brought under control by quarrantine.

    And prm, I’ll say this again, and I’ll try to use short words. I’m 45, and I’m already a vet. I do not think that your recruiter buddy would be all that interested in me. You obviously do not know much about the military.

    Oh, and by the way, I’m not registered as a republican…

  • That’s just part of being pro life. If God sees every sparrow that falls, then certainly he can see every papillomavirus that goes hungry and friendless without a host. Why denigrate that which the Lord has provided for you?

  • Bogieville,

    If you tried hard to find a way, I’m sure they’d accept you with open arms. Heck, there’s always the National Guard. They tried recruiting my father, a Vietnam vet, at 45. I also recall there’s a septuagenarian (that means he’s in his 70s) medical doctor who served/is serving in Afghanistan.

    It’d give you a chance to prove your mettle in a combat situation. As compared to the endless and mindless, but entertaining, blather and bluster you spew here.

    Go, man! Your country needs you! And take bogie and waumpuscat with you!

  • Actually, if the latest round of “right sizing” where I work (guys, it’s called a “job”) hits me, I’m seriously thinking of heading over. It’s not just the Army that’s recruiting… I’m not talking about one the private security forces either- just about every company who is involved in things needs folks… I’ll miss my current job (I go to work every day knowing that what I’m doing is helping people), but I can put my talents to work elsewhere…

    Oh, just wondering… I wonder what the Hussein-era Iraqi government’s policy was on diseases such as HPV or HIV?

  • The Tax Foundation compiles data each year on the amount of money each state pays per capita to the federal government and data on the amount of money each state receives from the federal government per capita. In a January 2004 NYTimes Op-Ed piece Daniel H. Pink a former Gore speech writer noted that,

    78 percent of Mr. Bush’s electoral votes came from Taker states.

    76 percent of Mr. Gore’s electoral votes came from Giver states.

    Of the 33 Taker states, Mr. Bush carried 25.

    Of the 16 Giver states, Mr. Gore carried 12.

    This speaks volumes about the notion that Bush supporters are self-sufficient while those who vote Democratic are on the government dole. Clearly, the facts do not support this notion.

    Let’s take a look at year 2005 and how the two states in center of this debate stacked up. North Dakota received $3259 per capita more in federal funds than it sent to Washington. Louisiana didn’t make out quite as well; it received $2554 per capita more in federal funds than it sent to Washington. While both were taker states see North Dakota beat out Louisiana when it comes to the flow of federal monies. This hardly puts them in a postition to critisize.

    How about John Ashcroft’s home state of Missouri? It too was a federal beneficiary to the tune of $1523 per capita. For reference California and New York each sent more to Washington than they got back. The deficits were $1436 per capita and $677 per capita, respectively.

    The data can be found at the Tax Foundation website in both pdf and XLS formats. I know Ed Stephens like to play with such numbers so I’m sure he will appreciate the XLS format.

  • Most of these people issues can be traced back to sex. They fear it. Too bad they might actually kill people – possibly their own- because of it.

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