Fearing ‘In Muhammad We Trust’

Picking out the most spectacularly dumb comment from this week’s House debate over Iraq escalation isn’t easy. One could certainly make an argument on behalf of Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-Fla.), who summarized her policy position by saying, “In the South, we have a wonderful saying and it goes like this: Get ‘er done.” A reasonable argument could also be made that Rep. Don Young’s (R-Alaska) decision to use a made-up Lincoln quote during his speech was even worse. Rep. Todd Akin’s (R-Mo.) Davy Crockett argument was a gem, and Rep. Sue Myrick’s (R-N.C.) Hitler analogy was entirely incoherent.

But Rep. Virgil Goode (R-Va.) has to take the cake.

“We are in the middle of a four-day marathon here. While I cannot say that I agree with all of the actions of the president in dealing with Iraq, I will not be supporting H.Con.Res. 63. The eyes of the world are upon this House and there will be commentary from the Middle East to the streets of small town America about what we do here over this four-day period even though this resolution does not carry the weight of law.

“When the commentary begins in the Middle East, in no way do I want to comfort and encourage the radical Muslims who want to destroy our country and who want to wipe the so-called infidels like myself and many of you from the face of the Earth. In no way do I want to aid and assist the Islamic jihadists who want the crescent and star to wave over the Capitol of the United States and over the White House of this country. I fear that radical Muslims who want to control the Middle East and ultimately the world would love to see ‘In God We Trust’ stricken from our money and replaced with ‘In Muhammad We Trust.'”

When I was much younger, I used to think conservative Republican lawmakers were the intellectual elite of their given ideology. I thought they were wrong on the issues, but they had to be serious people with considerable intelligence, or they wouldn’t be in Congress. I quickly came to realize, however, that lawmakers can be just as dumb as the rest of us, and in some cases, more so.

Goode is the drunk guy at the end of the bar.

Ask him a question, and he reflexively lashes out at those he hates, railing against everyone who isn’t like him.

In December, Goode wrote a blatantly bigoted letter to supporters in which he insisted Muslims represent a threat to “traditional” values, which is why, he said, we should pass massive immigration reform in order to keep more Muslims out of the country.

And now the poor schmo believes a bi-partisan, non-binding resolution on escalation in Iraq may “aid and assist Islamic jihadists,” and lead to changing the American flag and U.S. currency.

I wonder how a guy like this even manages to tie his shoes in the morning.

For what it’s worth, Goode doesn’t even understand the religious group he hates so much.

A top official at a leading Muslim group has just told us that GOP Rep. Virgil Goode’s fear that U.S. money may soon be stamped with “In Muhammad We Trust” is rather at odds with the actual history and theology of the Muslim religion. As this expert points out — and as some TPM Readers have noted, too — Muslims don’t worship Muhammad. They are monotheists worshiping a single God, called Allah in Arabic — not the individual Muhammad.

“There are many Islamic traditions that reinforce that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a human being, and he should not be worshipped,” Ibrahim Hooper, the national communications director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, tells us. So the notion that any Muslim would want “In Muhammad We Trust” written on U.S. money is, to put it charitably, nonsense.

Of course, for the drunk guy at the end of the bar, facts are irrelevant. Just pour him another one and wait for the fireworks.

I saw where Republican representative Sam Johnson (Texas), who is a Vietnam veteran and former POW, said that “The enemy wants our men and women in uniform to think their Congress doesn’t care about them. We must learn from our mistakes. We cannot leave a job undone like we left in Korea, like we left in Vietnam, like we left in Somalia.”

Somalia, eh?

H.Res. 239 (Aug 4, 1993)

“Whereas the United States is courting potential disaster in Somalia with American troops being fired upon and suffering numerous casualties: Now, therefore, be it

Resolved, That it is the sense of the House of Representatives that the President should withdraw all United States Armed Forces from Somalia.”

H.Con.Res. 163 (Oct 7, 1993):

“Resolved by the House of Representatives (the Senate concurring), That it is the sense of the Congress that the President should . . . prepare a plan for the immediate withdrawal of United States Armed Forces from Somalia.”

Sam Johnson was a co-sponsor of both these resolutions.

Both resolutions say the mission in Somalia had been accomplished. Now Sam Johnson doesn’t seem to agree with himself. Don’t you just love second-guessers?

  • With ReThug nitwits like these, we could remake Monty Python’s “Upper Class Twit of the Year” episode. They just keep throwing themselves further and further under that bus—now don’t they?

  • Muslims, all Muslims, worship the god of Abraham as the one and only GOD.

    It is the ignorant Christian who thinks that the god that we worship is ‘a bigger’ god than the god that Muslims worship.

    I think we, at least Christians, Muslims, and Jews, should remember that my GOD is your GOD.

  • And now the poor schmo believes a bi-partisan, non-binding resolution on escalation in Iraq may “aid and assist Islamic jihadists,” and lead to changing the American flag and U.S. currency.

    May? I doubt if Goode would appreciate your diluting his mesage.

  • I think you unfairly malign the drunk guy at the end of the bar.

    Goode is more like the guy outside with the sandwich board, yelling at everyone to stop drinking because the rapture is coming.

  • You know, if the conservatives has just left the national motto E Pluribus Unum alone, we wouldn’t be having this particular conversation – exclusionary religious sentiment has absolutely no place on our national symbols.

  • For what it’s worth, Goode doesn’t even understand the religious group he hates so much.

    Lack of understanding is the root cause of all hate in the world, so no surprise there.

  • “When the commentary begins in the Middle East, in no way do I want to comfort and encourage the radical Muslims who want to destroy our country and who want to wipe the so-called infidels like myself and many of you from the face of the Earth.
    Is this meant to imply that not all Congresspeople are “infidels” in the eyes of militant Muslims? A subtle dig at Keith Ellison, perhaps?

  • “There are many Islamic traditions that reinforce that the Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was a human being, and he should not be worshipped,” Ibrahim Hooper, the national communications director of the Council on American Islamic Relations, tells us. So the notion that any Muslim would want “In Muhammad We Trust” written on U.S. money is, to put it charitably, nonsense.

    As one of the resident atheists here, I must say that Hooper’s disclaimer about Muhammed is a bit disengenious. As indicated by the obligatory parenthetical after the “prophet’s” name, the violent outrage over some cartoons of Muhammed and the less-than-laidback reactions to depiction of the “prophet” (Salmon Rushdie, anyone) I think worship is a pretty good description of the treatment that Muhammed gets from Islamic true believers.

    Having said that … Virgil Goode’s an a-hole.

  • As a Virginian myself I think that Virgil Goode is quickly becoming the scary drunk, racist, born-again uncle that ruins every family reunion. He’s paranoid, out of touch, and sounds full-on crazy when he starts his anti-Muslim talk. After all, he’s the same guy that objected to the congressman being sworn in on the Koran. Goode is the perfect example of why the war in Iraq and the war on terrorism are doomed to failure: both are flagrant conservative attempts to drum up xenophobic fears in the weak-minded and align all Americans as Christians and “the damned.”

    I’ll be damned.

  • When I was much younger, I used to think conservative Republican lawmakers were the intellectual elite of their given ideology. I thought they were wrong on the issues, but they had to be serious people with considerable intelligence, or they wouldn’t be in Congress. I quickly came to realize, however, that lawmakers can be just as dumb as the rest of us, and in some cases, more so.

    Mark Twain had it right way back in 1874, when he said “Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.”

    Trust me, they are all egomaniacal nutcases to one degree or another, the ones on the other side and the ones on our side. If you always bear that in mind, you can work with them, but just don’t expect anything more. Other than those very few whose main notoriety is they aren’t like that. I think there’s one or two there now. Maybe.

  • Muslims do not worship money in the same way people in the west do. Given the fact that it is forbidden to draw a picture of Allah so as not to defile him, putting his name on something as selfish and dirty as money would be considered an abomination by many in Islam.

    I’ve often wondered why the righties are so proud of putting God’s name on money since all the preachings of Jesus were against the selfishness that money elicits and called for finding happiness through the spiritual and not in the material.

  • When I read what Goode had to say, it immediately reminded me of this Chick Tract:

    Allah Had No Son

    There is a specific reference to a Muslim flag waving over the White House. I think we know where Goode gets his information.

  • Regarding Virgil the Bad:

    “The demagogue is one who preaches doctrines he knows to be untrue to men he knows to be idiots” H.L. Mencken

    Fortunately the only “idiots” are Virgil Bad’s fellow Republicans – particularly Don Young.

  • So where are all these screaming hordes of “Islamic jihadists” ready to go all Red Dawn on our ass? The Baja peninsula?
    Did he happen to go on an acid trip while playing Command and Conquer?

    I don’t think Goode understands the logistical undertaking that would be required for an invading force to both defeat the US military and effectively occupy America.

    But then again, intelligent rational thought left the GOP around January of 1961.

    “In the South, we have a wonderful saying and it goes like this: Get ‘er done.”

    Hey,Ginny. Larry the Cable Guy is from Pawnee, Nebraska.

  • Head for the Hills! The Muslim population in this country has jumped to about 3%! And they just elected one Muslim to congress! At this rate, they will take over America in about the year 3457.

  • http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/house-gop-leaders-slam-dems-iraq.html

    In this article John Boehner also brought up Somalia as an example of the bad things that happen whenever the U.S. pulls its troops before the “mission” is complete:

    “You look what happened when we pulled out of Vietnam,” Boehner said. “Look what happened when we pulled out of Lebanon. Look what happened in the early 90’s when we pulled out of Somalia. We left chaos in our wake. That chaos has come back to haunt us. And if we pull out of Iraq that chaos will haunt us once again.”

    Boehner was also one of the co-sponsors of H.RES. 239 “”Urging the President to withdraw all United States Armed Forces from Somalia.”

    Have these guys forgotten all this already or are they experiencing pangs of guilt?

  • I hope Rep. Virgil Goode (R-Va.) gets to speak loudly and often to a national TV audience. This man will make more Democrats in one week than I can in in a couple of years!.

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