Feds to ABC News: ‘We Know Who You’re Calling’

On Thursday, in response to a growing national controversy over federal monitoring of Americans’ phone calls, the president publicly explained that there was no cause for concern. The administration’s target, [tag]Bush[/tag] said, is “[tag]al Qaeda[/tag] and their known affiliates.”

Today, however, [tag]ABC News[/tag]’ Brian Ross and Richard Esposito reported that an administration sources have said that the administration is also interested in spying on them.

A senior federal law enforcement official tells us the government is tracking the [tag]phone[/tag] numbers we call in an effort to root out confidential sources.

“It’s time for you to get some new cell phones, quick,” the source told us in an in-person conversation.

We do not know how the government determined who we are calling, or whether our phone records were provided to the government as part of the recently-disclosed NSA collection of domestic phone calls.

Other sources have told us that phone calls and contacts by reporters for ABC News, along with the New York Times and the Washington Post, are being examined as part of a widespread CIA leak investigation.

At first, I thought this was some kind of joke. It’s not. According to this report, the administration is now so worried about [tag]leaks[/tag], officials are now monitoring journalists’ calls, including two investigative reporters for ABC.

Oddly enough, it was ABC that reported on Friday that a majority of the public doesn’t mind if the government keeps track of who Americans [tag]call[/tag]. I guess Ross and Esposito weren’t among the poll’s respondents.

Josh had a post on this and said the following which pretty much says is all for me …. right now.

“…..Start grabbing up phone records to data-mine for terrorists and then the tools are just too tempting for your leak investigations. Once you do that, why not just keep an eye on your critics too? After all, they’re the ones most likely to get the leaks, right? So, same difference. The folks around the president don’t recognize any real distinctions among those they consider enemies. So we’d be foolish to think they wouldn’t bring these tools to bear on all of them. …”

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/008458.php

  • Serves ABC right. Now that we know the surveillance program is tracking down journalists’ sources (duh), I assume we can expect the following headlines:

    1) Surveillance Program Sparks Bush Rebound
    2) Democrats Fail to Capitalize on NSA Revelations
    3) Congress Sees Spying Program ‘Fatigue’
    4) Washington Post Implicated in Terrorist Investigation
    5) Spying Program: Scandal or Our Liberal Bias?
    6) Bush Gets Tough on Leakers
    7) Hearings on Phone Call Monitoring Could Hamper National Security
    8) Bloggers Get Shrill Over NSA Hoo-Haw
    9) Benefits of Tapping My Phone Mixed\Liberal ‘Overreaction’ Misses Complexity (Joe Klien, Thomas Friedman, Joe Lieberman)
    10) Reporting Wrongdoing Dangerous in Time of War

  • And this is sure going to help repair relations with the press, right? Scott McClellan must be laughing his head off thinking about the grilling that Tony Snow is going to be getting real soon.

    Any bets on how soon Tony is going to be fleeing back to the safety of the Faux News bubble?

  • Gee, pretty soon reporters are going to have rely on shoe leather and exchanging dirt on public officials in bars (perhaps near the Labor Temple), or talking with informants while going for a walk in the park or having their shoes shined in public, or….

    Just like the old days, when the press deserved the appelation “guardians from the fourth estate”. Nah, that’s a long dead fantasy now. All “news” departments are nothing more than another version of what passes for ratings-driven entertainment on Tee Vee.

  • Is Cheney trying to relive his good old days in the Nixon White House or what?
    Have they begun the “secret” bombing of Iran?

  • The scariest thing to me is reading the comments on the ABC blog to that story since I already suspected this was happening. We have some seriously disturbed people out there.

  • This could be the break we’ve been looking for. Perhaps the press will start doing its job and reporting the corrosive nature of, at least, this particular administration trespass since their own oxes are being Gored. ( Pun intended for you swiftboat paranoiacs.).

  • It is but a small step from investigating terrorists through the interception of millions of American phone calls to a close examination of the fourth estate’s phone calls to find out leakers.

    It is yet another small step to start targeting domestic political opponents.

    Notice that the supporters of Bush argue that the fourth estate is the new enemy in leaking information — setting aside the fact that the fourth estate has been EXPOSING what the administration has been illegally doing — is that they’re finding enemies.

    A continual search for enemies and the continual invocation of finding the enemy is simply the first step toward a dictatorship.

    With the allegations against Diebold and the phone taps, this is eerily reminiscent of a tightening noose of dictatorship.

    And yet, there are no protests, not a peep. I guess the American public is simply apathetic… either that or believe that the war on terror, such as it is being mishandled, gives the administration carte blanche…If the latter, we’ll find ourselves held in a virtual dictatorship and have nobody but ourselves to blame.

    Bush and his cronies (and yes, he does have adherents) excuse everything because they’re “right” and everybody else is wrong. He has a real contempt of checks and balances and has done a lot of damage.

    Assuming that he does in fact step down from power… if he ever does… what is to prevent the Democrats from using the same powers against the Republicans? Checks and balances, folks. What you don’t do to the other side doesn’t get done to you.

  • “Have they begun the “secret” bombing of Iran?” – 2Manchu

    No, just the secret inflitration.

    Oh, and the Iranians are shelling Iraq.

    “Today, however, ABC News’ Brian Ross and Richard Esposito reported that an administration sources have said that the administration is also interested in spying on them.” – CB

    Yep, this is just what we would expect. Gonzales has no sense of limitation on executive power. They will call anyone they want criminals and traitors, and thus justify all the spying and searches they want.

    Warrant, they don’t need no stinking warrant.

  • Ed- you can’t take a walk in the park and meet up with deep throat anymore… remember those surveillance cameras that are pretty much everywhere now?

    Damn, I hate being a conspiracy theorist- then seeing everything come true…

  • Wow. I’m speechless. If you haven’t seen the comments under the story on ABCNews.com, it is a real eye opener.

    As Michelle (#6) notes, these people are way disturbed.

    The story of the NSA database was scary.
    The use of the database to track the activities of the press was scarier.
    But the comments section may be the scariest #^^$+@&* thing I’ve ever seen.

  • Sounds to me like there are some investigations of this Admin that are starting to hit too close to home. The only hope for Cheney and his pet monkey are to start grabbing up the leakers before too much damage is done.

    Start spying on the media…they will lead to the “traitors” in the White House or elsewhere.

    I would go easy on the media here. As much as they are culpable, they are still the only thing standing between the US as we know it and the US becoming the USSR… United States Surveilled Religiously.

  • Funny. Weren’t we just asking about how the government may abuse their claimed power to wiretap everybody?

  • …But you know, the really nice thing? Everyone who is posting here has had their IP address (and accompanying info, courtesy of the ISPs who have been feeding the NSA) logged, so they know who to come for…

  • ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA. ITMFA.

  • Indeed, BC. I’m going to start sigging each of my posts with “ITMFA”. Thanks.

    ITMFA

  • Anonymous proxy server. Learn what it means. Learn how to use it. It hides your ISP and computer information from the websites you visit.

    If anyone’s really interested I can put together a quick tutorial on how to use a proxy server. Of course, the NSA’s probably logging everyone who accesses a proxy server now, but anyway….

  • A senior federal law enforcement official tells us the government is tracking the phone numbers we call in an effort to root out confidential sources.

    Wait a minute … we were assured the numbers couldn’t be traced back to names and addresses. How do they know those calls are coming from or to ABC News? Bush is “fiercely guarding” our civil liberities, right?[/snark]

    This is appalling, but I think it’s also sort of good news. Not because it will silence the press (which it may), but because it shows the MSM once and for all that Bush and his Republican cronies have never been your buddies.You’ve been played for suckers and patsies. I’d like to think this triggers a wave of righteous indignation and independence on the part of the press. But I’m sure that’s hoping for too much.

    Any bets the Bush Administration has been spying on the “opposition” party? I bet they know exactly who’s been calling Reid, Pelosi, Kerry, Obama, Clinton, Murtha, Feingold and Leahy.

    Now can we talk seriously about censure and impeachment?

  • To follow up on Lance’s comment in #9:

    Do we know for sure that it’s members of the Iranian armed forces fired into Iraq, or disgruntled locals recruited by the Defense Department (farewell, CIA, we hardly knew ye) to stir things up and provide an excuse to start the bombing ala the Tonkin Gulf Incident?

    Just curious. 😉

    Oh yeah….ITMFA!!

  • Man you guys weren’t kidding about the knuckledraggers that escaped from freerepublic and posted comments over at ABC’s website. I’m just astounded at how clueless some people are.

  • “Do we know for sure that it’s members of the Iranian armed forces fired into Iraq,” – Curmudgeon

    The Iranians admit it and claim to be shelling Kurdish rebel encampments. Kurdistan extends over Turkey, Iraq, Syria and
    (wait for it)
    Iran.

    There is a movement, no surprise, to unify as one country. This is one of the reasons the Turks wouldn’t let the 4th Infantry Division invade Iraq from the north. They didn’t want to give more aid and comfort to the enemy.

    Iran, by the way, is a core of Persans surrounded by Kurds, Arabs, Baluchi, Arezi and other minorities. In fact their whole coastline is either Shia Arab or Sunni Baluchi.

    As another multi-ethnic state, they may not really want to see Iraq break into pieces.

  • Jim (#17) — While I understand your reasoning on trying to cover our Internet tracks I think that we should be doing the exact opposite. If we react to the government’s fear-mongering tactics, then we will be doing exactly what they want. I refuse to hide in the shadows while practicing my guaranteed right to free speech.

  • The morally superior (ahem) evangelical right is fine with all of this spying because they feel they are shining examples of good behavior and somehow being spied on is a form of witnessing their christian values. But this administration is treating all American citizens as if we’re all potentially guilty of something. How sick is it that ordinary Americans feel they have to publicly prove their innocence by either showing support or claiming they have nothing to hide so the spying’s OK?

    At the center of this debate is not security but trust. Bush and Gonzales say trust them and no one needs to look over their shoulder to see if they’re doing what they say they’re doing or for them to have a valid reason to do it. With Bush’s poll numbers so low, the question should center on why can you trust these guys since they’ve lied to us so much before? Is this about a waging a war on terror or are the Bushies really terrorizing us?

  • Re#22

    You don’t get it.

    According to the administration, there is no right to free speech in the midst of wartime so everyone must subject themselves to monitoring.

    This is indeed a transition from the principate to the dominate period.

  • To play devil’s advocate for a moment, one of the many aspects of the outting of Valerie Plame was not only the loss of valuable intelligence capability but also the possibility that lives of those working with the CIA were lost. It’s possible that the same is true in other CIA leaks, though obviously the leakers as well as the media outlets seem to be far more cautious than Libby/Rove/Cheney when it comes to the sort of information that’s revealed. (The Plame outting is about as unsophisticated as it gets.) The knuckledraggers at the ABC site shouldn’t be excused for the viciousness of their comments, but I think that some of them have genuine concern about the well-being of those working on our behalf in the military and in other capacities. Personally, I’m glad I know what my country is doing in my name. I also recognize that there may be costs in terms of lives or effectiveness that come with the benefit of this knowledge.

    Not that I’m defending the WH & NSA for what they’re doing. As usual, the Bush Administration mis-identifies both the problem and solution. The leaks are a symptom, not the problem. Nobody is naive enough to think that the NSA/CIA hasn’t engaged in questionable behavior in the past. When even these folks get cold feet and issue leaks to the media, it’s because 1) the internal mechanism for voicing dissent and getting heard isn’t working, and 2) the nature of the new tactics pushed by the WH is so far beyond what’s come before. These folks don’t leak info unless things have gotten pretty f’d up. Hopefully in the process of leaking they aren’t compromising operational people.

  • Anybody can buy your phone records and it’s all legal. Send a phone number in an e-mail with credit card number to charge and a few hours later, you got ’em.

    Check it out. Some folks have already thought of the idea of spying using this methodology, sort of a Private Spy.

  • marcus (#22) –

    There’s no right to free speech from inside a Soviet gulag or an American “freedom camp” or whatever Newspeak euphemism these monsters will use to label their secret prisons.

    Just think about the claims this administration has put forth: they have the right to violate the 4th Amendment in order to gather “evidence”; they have the right to detain individuals indefinitely without benefit of counsel, without presenting evidence, without even charging you with a crime. They have the right to spirit you off to a secret prison in a foreign country where they don’t even have to pretend that you have any human rights. They have the right to torture, abuse, and degrade you in the name of “protecting freedom”.

    Does this sound like America any more ? Or some 3rd world banana republic from an episode of “I Spy” or “Mission: Impossible” (the 60s/70s TV shows – not the lamentable movies).

    I’m just waiting for the formal announcements suspending the Bill of Rights and postponing the 2008 elections in the name of liberty.

  • I forgot something.

    If we hide our tracks in order that we may continue to speak freely – that’s not what this administration wants. They want us to toe the party line, drink the kool-aid, rat out our neighbors, turn a blind eye to their crimes and just STFU.

    They don’t want us scared but defiant; they want us beaten and compliant.

  • “The leaks are a symptom, not the problem.” – Kurzleg

    The problem is that the White House blamed the CIA for getting the intelligence on Iraq wrong, when in fact is was the failure of Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld’s own little analysis unit at the Pentagon. They got the intelligence wrong and listened to Curveball, not the CIA. The CIA leaked only to protect their own reputation. Then Boy George II sent Porter Goss into the CIA to find all the ‘liberal loving leakers’ and in the process, trashed the morale of the agency.

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