Following Obama’s lead on foreign policy

British Prime Minister Gordon Brown thinks Barack Obama has the right approach on counter-terrorism. Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki thinks Obama has the right approach on Iraq. The Bush administration seems to think Obama has the right approach on Iran. And none other than John McCain thinks Obama has the right approach on Afghanistan.

The conventional wisdom has told us for a year and a half that Obama’s biggest weakness is background on foreign policy and national security. But if that’s the case, why is everyone following this guy’s lead?

Sen. Barack Obama’s (Ill.) campaign said Saturday that GOP rival Sen. John McCain (Ariz.) has adopted some of the Democratic presidential candidate’s foreign policy positions.

A campaign memo sent to reporters asserted that McCain has switched his positions on two key issues this week — negotiations with Iran and the need for additional troops in Afghanistan.

“On both issues, Obama took stands that weren’t politically popular at the time — opposing the war in Iraq as a diversion from the critical mission in Afghanistan, and standing up for direct diplomacy with Iran — while John McCain lined up with George Bush. Time has proven Obama’s judgment right and McCain wrong,” reads the memo.

It’s hard to blame the Obama campaign for touting its record of success here. It’s not every day that a campaign gets to debunk the conventional wisdom on what is supposed to be its toughest and most challenging issue.

For those who are interested, here’s the memo in its entirety. It makes a pretty compelling case. Emphasis in the original in each case:

From: Bill Burton

To: Interested Parties
From: The Obama Campaign
RE: Obama Leading on Foreign Policy, McCain Following

There are two problems with John McCain’s political attacks on Barack Obama’s foreign policy. First, on the biggest foreign policy questions of the last eight years, Barack Obama has made the right judgment and John McCain has sided with George Bush in making the wrong one. Second, the failure of the McCain-Bush foreign policy has forced John McCain to change his position, and to embrace the very same Obama approaches that he once attacked.

Just this week, Senator McCain has been forced by events to switch to Barack Obama’s position on two fundamental issues: more troops in Afghanistan, and more diplomacy with Iran. On both issues, Obama took stands that weren’t politically popular at the time – opposing the war in Iraq as a diversion from the critical mission in Afghanistan, and standing up for direct diplomacy with Iran – while John McCain lined up with George Bush. Time has proven Obama’s judgment right and McCain wrong.

The next shift appears to be Iraq. For months, Senator McCain has called any plan to redeploy our troops from Iraq “surrender” – even though we’d be leaving Iraq to a sovereign Iraqi government. Now, the Bush Administration is embracing the negotiation of troop withdrawals with the Iraqi government – a position that Senator Obama called for last September, and reiterated on Monday in the New York Times. And now, Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki supports Barack Obama’s timeline, telling Der Speigel that, “Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months.”

Afghanistan –

* McCain at the beginning of the week: more of the same

* McCain at the end of the week: more troops

Barack Obama said in 2002 that we had to finish the fight against Osama bin Laden and al Qaeda in Afghanistan instead of invading Iraq. John McCain was George Bush’s biggest supporter for a war in Iraq that took our eye off of Afghanistan, arguing that we would be “greeted as liberators”; that democracy would spread across the region; and that we could “muddle through” in Afghanistan. On the most important foreign policy judgment of our generation, Obama got it right and McCain got it wrong.

Since then, our overwhelming focus on Iraq has caused us to shortchange Afghanistan. The result is clear. Osama bin Laden is still at large. Al Qaeda has reconstituted a sanctuary along the Pakistani border. The Taliban is on the offensive. June was the highest casualty month of the war. And Obama’s judgment was reaffirmed earlier this month, when Admiral Mullen, chairman of the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff, said, “I don’t have troops I can reach for, brigades I can reach, to send into Afghanistan until I have a reduced requirement in Iraq.”

Barack Obama has consistently called for more troops and resources in Afghanistan. In August of 2007, he called for at least two additional U.S. combat brigades and $1 billion in non-military assistance. Senator McCain continued to march in lockstep with the failed Bush policy, and even argued earlier this year that “Afghanistan is not in trouble because of our diversion to Iraq.” This past week, Senator McCain changed his position for political reasons, embracing Obama’s call for more troops the day after Obama restated it in a New York Times op-ed, and almost one year after Obama’s initial plan. McCain’s proposal was complicated by the fact that the McCain campaign couldn’t even get its answer straight on whether those troops would come from the U.S. or our NATO allies – leading the Times to wonder “how well formed his ideas are.”

SENDING MORE TROOPS TO AFGHANISTAN

Gergen: “In The Last Two Days We’ve Seen Twice Now The Bush Administration Reverse Itself And Take Positions That Are Much Closer To Obama’s,” Added “The Greater Danger To Our Troops Right Now Is In Afghanistan. That’s What Obama’s Been Arguing All Along.” David Gergen: “For the last few months, John McCain has had the upper hand in the arguments about foreign policy, as one of the chief architects of a surge that Obama voted against and then it seemed to work. And yet in the last two days we’ve seen twice now the Bush administration reverse itself and take positions that are much closer to Obama’s. Last night we talked about the fact that suddenly the Bush administration had reversed course and was going to begin talking directly to Iran this weekend, and now tonight we’re talking about them reversing course and saying we must send more troops into Afghanistan, and Afghanistan is becoming in many ways at least as dangerous as Iraq. You know, last — in June, there were virtually the same number of American troops who died in Afghanistan as in Iraq, and yet in Iraq we have five times as many troops. So the danger, the greater danger to our troops right now is in Afghanistan. That’s what Obama’s been arguing all along.” [Anderson Cooper, CNN, 7/16/08]

LA Times Columnist: After Years Of Saying Afghanistan Was Not A Threat, McCain Is Now Calling For More Troops There, “Maybe Because Barack Obama Keeps Hammering Away At The Issue.” LA Times columnist Rosa Brooks wrote, “Immediately after 9/11, McCain shared the widespread view that the U.S. should go to war in Afghanistan to take out those responsible for the 9/11 attacks. But by late November 2001, he wanted to “move on to the next country.” Uh-huh: “Next up, Baghdad!” Of course, we stayed in Afghanistan too, but McCain had gotten tired of it. By April 2003, he said that “nobody in Afghanistan threatens the United States of America,” so we could focus instead on the shiny new war in Iraq. “We don’t read about [Afghanistan] anymore, because it’s succeeded,” he explained in October 2005. But Iraq started getting boring too, so now McCain has turned his restless attention back to Afghanistan — maybe because Barack Obama keeps hammering away at the issue. (Obama, who’s been fairly consistent on Afghanistan for six years now, is either the rare politician who doesn’t suffer from ADD, or he’s smart enough to take his meds.)” [Rosa Brooks Column, LA Times, 7/17/08]

IRAN

* McCain at the beginning of the week: against high-level talks with Iran

* McCain at the end of the week: praised Bush Administration’s high-level talks with Iran

Barack Obama has consistently said that our policy of not pursuing direct diplomacy with Iran has failed, and he has made it clear that he favors direct talks with the Iranian regime in order to advance our interests. Senator McCain and President Bush have ridiculed Obama’s support for direct diplomacy with the Iranian regime. In his trip to Israel, President Bush took implicit aim at Senator Obama, and suggested his proposals for tough diplomacy constituted “appeasement,” while McCain said Obama’s approach was “naive” and “shows a lack of experience.

Here is the record of the McCain-Bush approach. Iran has advanced its illicit nuclear program. Iran is now enriching uranium, and has reportedly stockpiled 150 kilos of low enriched uranium. Iran’s support for terrorism has increased. Iran’s threats toward Israel have increased. Those are the facts, they cannot be denied. McCain has fully supported this failed policy, while Obama has called for a new direction.

This week the Bush administration finally appeared to recognize that it is reckless refusal to participate in talks with our European allies and the Iranian regime had failed. The Bush Administration shifted its policy, and is sending a top-ranking State Department official to join in nuclear talks across the table from Iran in Geneva Senator McCain, a long-time critic of diplomatic engagement with Iran, now changed his position to Obama’s and said that he had “no problem…whatsoever” with this high-level diplomatic engagement with Iran. For the second time in one week, events on the ground forced John McCain to change his position to embrace an Obama position.

TALKS WITH IRAN

Stephanopoulous: “Undersecretary Of State William Burns Will Be Meeting With The Iranians This Weekend As Part Of Their Nuclear Talks,” Obama Has “Been Calling For Those Kind Of Talks For A Long Time.” George Stephanopoulous said, “Senator McCain has moved more towards Barack Obama’s position on Afghanistan, calling for two or three more brigades in Afghanistan which Obama’s called for a long time and watch for this, Chris. We just learned today that the Undersecretary of State William Burns will be meeting with the Iranians this weekend as part of their nuclear talks. Watch for the Obama campaign to say this vindicates Barack Obama’s position. He’s been calling for those kind of talks for a long time.” [ABC Good Morning America, 7/16/08]

Gibson: Bush Administration Insisted It Would Not Talk With Iran, But Its New Willingness to Talk “Is Essentially What Barack Obama Has Been Proposing.” Charlie Gibson: “The Bush administration, for years, has insisted it would not talk with Iran until Iran suspended its nuclear enrichment program. That policy was reversed today. The State Department said it will send Undersecretary of State William Burns to meet face-to-face with Iran’s nuclear negotiator this weekend. So, Martha Raddatz is here to explain what seems like a major turnaround…There are political implications to this because this is essentially what Barack Obama has been proposing, isn’t it?” Martha Raddatz said, “It sure sounds like it, Charlie. There’s a good quote today, from John Bolton, the former U.N. ambassador. He said this is like getting an Obama administration six months early. The White House says it’s very different. But it sure sounds like it’s heading in that direction.” [ABC World News, 7/16/08]

Bolton Sarcastically Said Bush Shift Toward Talking To Iran “Is The State Department Effort To Insure A Smooth Transition To The Obama Administration.” John Bolton said of the Bush Administration’s agreeing to talks with Ira, “Even if this is a one time only event in the Bush administration, it legitimizes the Obama administration to do the same thing,” he said. “It undercuts McCain, and Republicans on the Hill. This is the State Department effort to insure a smooth transition to the Obama administration.” [New York Sun, 7/17/08]

Washington Post: While Bush Administration Opposed US Officials Accompanying Solana To Iran Talks, “Obama Campaign Officials Had Said That One Of The First Steps He Would Take As President Would Be To End The Ban On U.S. Officials Accompanying Solana.” “Administration officials have long insisted that U.S. representatives would not join even preliminary discussions with Tehran until it stops enriching uranium — a distinction that presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama has called counterproductive. In June, when Solana traveled to Tehran to present a sweetened offer to Iran to negotiate, the United States pointedly did not join other members of the international coalition in sending a senior official to the meeting. State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said at the time that no U.S. representative would attend unless ‘Iran suddenly has a change of tune and says that they will meet the demands of the international community, which are expressed in U.N. Security Council resolutions.’ European officials hailed the news that Burns would come to Geneva as a breakthrough, one that sends a clear message to Iran that the international community is interested in negotiating a solution to the nuclear impasse. ‘It is a very interesting and important sign by the United States,’ one senior European official said last night. Obama campaign officials had said that one of the first steps he would take as president would be to end the ban on U.S. officials accompanying Solana.” [Washington Post, 7/15/08]

The Guardian: McCain has “no problem…whatsoever” with high-level talks with Iran. “John McCain, said he had ‘no problem . . . whatsoever’ with Burns going to the Geneva meeting, but repeated said he would not meet Ahmadinejad. ” [The Guardian (London), 7/18/08]

IRAQ

Barack Obama has consistently called for a responsible redeployment of our troops from Iraq so that we can press the Iraqis to take responsibility for their country, restore our military, and finish the fight in Afghanistan. It is in America’s interests to end the Iraq War responsibly, and it is in the interest of the Iraqi people to have a government that reconciles its differences and takes responsibility for the future of Iraq.

John McCain has consistently labeled any plan to remove U.S. troops from Iraq as “surrender.” However, just this week, the White House agreed on a “general time horizon” for the removal of U.S. troops from Iraq. And speaking to Der Spiegel, Prime Minister Maliki said, “Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months.” He went on to say, “Artificially prolonging the tenure of US troops in Iraq would cause problems.”

Senator McCain has said that we must leave Iraq when the sovereign government of Iraq wants us to. Now that the White House has shifted closer to Senator Obama’s position on negotiating the redeployment of our troops from Iraq, and the Prime Minister of the sovereign government of Iraq has endorsed Senator Obama’s 16 month timeline, will Senator McCain shift his position on redeploying troops from Iraq? Why does Senator McCain refuse to press the Iraqis to stand up? Why does Senator McCain want to stay in Iraq longer than we need to and longer than the Iraqis want us to? Does Senator McCain think it would be “surrender” to leave Iraq to the Iraqi government?

Council on Foreign Relations, McCain: “I don’t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people” QUESTION: Let me give you a hypothetical, senator. What would or should we do if, in the post-June 30th period, a so-called sovereign Iraqi government asks us to leave, even if we are unhappy about the security situation there? I understand it’s a hypothetical, but it’s at least possible. McCAIN: Well, if that scenario evolves, then I think it’s obvious that we would have to leave because— if it was an elected government of Iraq— and we’ve been asked to leave other places in the world. If it were an extremist government, then I think we would have other challenges, but I don’t see how we could stay when our whole emphasis and policy has been based on turning the Iraqi government over to the Iraqi people. http://www.cfr.org/publication/6973/ {April 22, 2004}

This might actually help McCain with Independents. Now that McCain has come around on Iraq and Iran they can vote for him and against the war. Seemingly.

  • Impressive and substantial.

    But is anybody out in McMedia paying attention?
    And if they are, anyone want to bet dimes to donuts that they spin this as the callow caws of an upstart crow?

    Poor poor America: A democracy is only as vital as its mass media is probingly independent.
    And as you can see from this Pew quiz Americans are about as well-informed as a donut hole is nutritious:

    http://pewresearch.org/newsiq/

  • Obama to continue “war on terror” “with vigor”

    KABUL, Afghanistan – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama pledged steadfast aid to Afghanistan in talks Sunday with its Western-backed leader and vowed to pursue the war on terror “with vigor” if elected, an Afghan official said.

    […]

    Source: AP

  • I share Dale’s concern, but also see the potential for McCain to claim that the reason he can switch positions is because the “surge” — which he supported and Obama did not — was successful. Just yesterday, the Sunnis ended their boycott of the government — a good sign overall — but further erodes claims that the surge did not bring about the stability needed for the government to get its act together. I’m not saying that’s what has happened, but the case can be made and with media complicity voters could well be swayed.

  • OT comment:

    Nearly every blog I visit suddenly has several “ads” for “peeringads.com.”

    The “ads” themselves are actually black with simple text that says “No cookie was found, please go to IndyAdy an open an account!!! its free.” The link attached to “IndyAdy” goes to something called “peeringads”. A quick search of the Google reveals no information for either “IndyAdy” or “peeringads.”

    I haven’t seen any comments from anyone else about these annoying “ads”. Is everyone seeing them or has my computer been corrupted by some horrible malware?

    Sorry for the OT post.

  • Just yesterday, the Sunnis ended their boycott of the government — a good sign overall — but further erodes claims that the surge did not bring about the stability needed for the government to get its act together. beep52 (4)

    The problem for McCain is that he keeps saying he’s been right all along. And even as none of the political benchmarks were being achieved, he was claiming success. But the “success” of the surge comes largely from the Anbar awakening and the Sadr cease-fire, neither of which required an extra 30 thousand US troops. I would argue that what little political success there’s been has come from the threat that we will leave, and the threat of US corps. taking over oil reserves. If Obama wins, look for Iraq to end these contracts. If McCain wins, look for renewed violence.

  • The McCain puppy Joe Lieberman says if it were not for McCain’s support for the war policies, Obama would not be able to go there, if it were not for McCain’s support for the war for 6 years Obama would not need to go there, Over 4000 American troops would still be alive, the country would not be flat broke, we would not be hated around the world. Hopefully that is due to change soon!

  • This fascinating memo confirms what’s been clear for a while: whatever the November outcome — and we can be sure that between now and then Republicans will take credit for any success that comes from following Obama’s lead, and make up lies out of whole cloth to “prove” it — Obama’s campaign has had good effects for us all, and not just about foreign policy. His speech on race during the primaries was the first time to my knowledge anybody had addressed that core domestic issue in a direct, serious, no quick fix but a good start way. His speech got attention because of who was giving it, but still: this guy, even though the FISA reversal distresses me no end, has done us good and continues to promise much that we need.

    Edwards also helped shape developments in a very good way: his excellent health care plan prodded Obama and Clinton to get out their own for us to see; he made going after lobbyists and big biz abuses central to his campaign; he set an example, for those who needed it (including one who didn’t get the message), for how to admit he was wrong about Iraq in 2002. I think the Democrats are doing us proud this season, and that needs to be said because Dems have been so hysterically demonized in past years, and Republicans (who apparently know no new tricks) are trying to do so again (c.f. that Please don’t vote Democratic billboard in Florida which suggests falsely — the affinity for lies out of whole cloth again — and viciously that Dems were somehow linked to the tragedy of 9/11).

  • When asked by SPIEGEL about the reasons for the improved security situation in Iraq, Maliki said: “There are many factors, but I see them in the following order. First, there is the political rapprochement we have managed to achieve in central Iraq. This has enabled us, above all, to pull the plug on al-Qaida. Second, there is the progress being made by our security forces. Third, there is the deep sense of abhorrence with which the population has reacted to the atrocities of al-Qaida and the militias. Finally, of course, there is the economic recovery.”

    ..and the ‘Surge’? Of course, Maliki is not a commander on the ground.

  • That memo pretty much says it all. The media will pretty much HAVE to cover at least SOME of this stuff, right? ( I won’t hold my breath.)

    The Republicans will act like they always planned to leave and give credit to the “surge”. That’s fine with me. We all know that they were preparing to stay in Iraq forever, and John McCain said as much.

    We also know the surge was needed becasue too few troops were sent in intitally, (against the advice of the military, especially General Shinseki) because we were going to “shock and awe” the enemy with our big bunker busting bombs. That plan didn’t work out so good, huh?

  • Hot Air captured the following passage from the English translation of Maliki’s Der Spiegel interview:

    SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?

    Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. US presidential candidate Barack Obama is right when he talks about 16 months. Assuming that positive developments continue, this is about the same time period that corresponds to our wishes.

    Here’s how the exchange reads now:

    SPIEGEL: Would you hazard a prediction as to when most of the US troops will finally leave Iraq?

    Maliki: As soon as possible, as far as we’re concerned. U.S. presidential candidate Barack Obama talks about 16 months. That, we think, would be the right timeframe for a withdrawal, with the possibility of slight changes.

    There is no explanation of the rewrite.

    Spiegel says: “SPIEGEL stands by its version of the conversation.” That’s great . . . but which one?

  • It is very interesting to see the McCain campaign fall all over itself trying to back pedal on this al-Maliki statement. The New York Times reports in an update about the attempt by Maliki to soften the blow of his original statement to Der Spiegel.http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/07/19/maliki-backs-obamas-troop-withdrawal-plan/ The interesting part of the supposed retraction is that it came via the U.S. Military’s Central Command press office. Other media outlets have referred to calls from the State Department to al-Maliki’s government as the true cause for the correction. I can’t imagine why Bush/McCain would want to change a Prime Minister’s words??

  • Steve Benon is a fool.

    Obama wants to break up the multilateral diplomacy we have with the EU on Iran.

    Obama wants unilateral diplomacy with Iran without conditions.

    How is Bush following Obama on Iran.

    Are you that clueless on the left.

    The EU and the U.S are still demanding Iran stop enrichment or there will be more sanctions.

    Obama wants to conditions for presidential diplomacy with Aminajad. Obama has flip flopped on whether to meet with him.

    Obama wants to break up the EU and U.S multilateral approach.

    Multilateral diplomacy worked with North Korea. The left kept saying negotiate face to face. But it worked.

    Obama wants to break up the multlateral approach that worked in north korea.

    Iran has money in Europe’s banks. We need multilateral diplomacy with conditions.

    The U.S is not negotiating with Iran until they stop enrichment.

    Can the left ever stop lying.

    Bush’s Iran diplomacy policy couldn’t be more different than Obama.

    You people on the left are morons.

    European leaders hate Obama’s position to break up the multilateral diplomacy they have been working so hard on with conditions for Iran to stop enrichment.

  • Wait let me get this straight you liar Steve Benon.

    You said the Bush administration says Obama has it right on Iran.

    You liar.

    1. The Bush administration is not negotiating until Iran stops enrichment. That is called conditions.

    Obama against that.

    2. The Bush administration is for keeping it as multilateral diplomacy. This model worked with North Korea.

    Obama wants to break up the multilateral diplomacy approach that worked with Korea.

    Obama wants unilateral diplomacy without conditions

    Bush administration is for multilateral diplomacy with conditions.

    European leaders don’t like Obama wanting to break up the multilateral diplomacy with conditions that worked with North Korea.

    Obama is lost first he was for meeting with the president of iran then he was against then he was for.

  • Jeff:

    Can you please at least just spell the name of the guy who runs this blog correctly for once? Good grief.

    And yes, the Bush admin’s approach on North Korea was a stellar, amazing example of diplomacy: let’s junk everything that’s been working during the previous administration, let’s not talk to these people at all in any way until they’ve got nukes, and then suddenly a change of face and actually try to work something out. It’s diplomacy-by-screwing-up-first before getting it sorta right when the other side has already gotten nukes. Great job. Bravo.

    “The Bush administration is not negotiating until Iran stops enrichment. That is called conditions.”

    Can’t you read? They are negotiating now, having given up this condition, because they knew it wasn’t getting them anywhere. Just as their position on North Korea for 7 years only made things worse.

    Can we please get BETTER trolls???

  • Jeff, the Bush administration is for oil profiteers and pharmaceutical companies to get rich. Anything else is just window dressing.

    Cheer up. When Obama is in the White House come January, the healthcare reform plan will allow your mother to finally get you those drugs you so badly need. Until then, well, I hear St. John’s Wort works for some folks. And “Hooked on Phonics” is cheap at Wal*Mart!

  • To Dave G you obviously aren’t following the iran talks.

    The demand is for iran to stop enrichment then they will negotiate with them.

    They aren’t negotiating. The EU partners and the U.S are going to go back to the UN for more sanctions.

    I can’t stand how dense the left is.

  • Healthcare reform you moron needs 60 votes in the senate. Nothing gets done in the u.s congress.

  • To Dave G they aren’t negotiating.

    Read any reputable news site. They are demanding Iran stop enrichment before negotiations.

    They are giving iran two weeks to meet their demand or they are going back to the UN for more sanctions.

    There was no negotiation.

    There was a demand to stop enrichment before any negotiation.

    The U.S went there to listen to their answer to the demand. There was no negotiation.

    Steve Benen doesn’t represent the facts.

  • It’s ok, Jeff. I used to think there were snakes under my bed, too. Then I turned six.

  • to moron jeff…..

    here’s a quote from Winston Churchill: “America will usually do the right thing… after exhausting all other options”

    That pretty much applies to the Bush gang

  • “Jeff” = Elephantman, Everythinginmoderation, etc. Neocon morons, desperate at that. These poor bastards are really suffering. Their house-of-cards has tumbled and they are left having to shave w/o a mirror. What fun…

  • Jeff:

    You’re still not paying attention. Before, the admin wasn’t talking to Iran at all. Now they’re talking to them. The “official” position is that they’re not negotiating without the enrichment stopping, but they still sent a diplomat to discuss the issue — which they hadn’t before. Hence, they are having discussions. There is no other way to characterize it.

  • I am curious. Are there no white people in the military anymore? I spent 15 years in the army and I remember a few white people that were serving but to look at the photos that are of Obama on his “meet the troops” pictures there is only 5% of the military who are white. if I remember correctly there was a few more than 5%. I guess he dose not want to talk to them or the white troops don’t want to talk to him. but it seems that he only wants to talk to non white females.

  • Would like to see a link to footage of Obama interacting with troops. Would also like to see him hold a press conference and show some emotion on his shared interactions and reflections with the boots on the ground. I think that would shake the core of the shallow and cowardly media machinery. A nice injection of blatant truth for the media to have to report as is. Would also like to see Chuck Hagel as his VP candidate.


  • Jeff wrote: “Obama wants to conditions for presidential diplomacy with Aminajad”

    First, Jeff, when you’re done writing a comment don’t just submit it. Read it. Then reread it and make sure there aren’t any nonsensical phrases like “Obama wants to conditions”. It helps you not sound like a halfwit.

    Secondly, Ahmadinejad is not the leader of Iran. He is a leader in Iran. He is specifically the President. But because Iran is not like the United States, the president of Iran is not considered to be the supreme leader of the country. The supreme leader roll goes to the “Supreme Leader”. And that is not Ahmadinejad. A simple fact check could have helped you with this in the same way that a reread could have helped you. And it wasn’t the only fact needing checking in your comments.

    My advice: stop rushing your comments, reread, fact check, take a remedial world history course at the local community college, and steer clear of Republican talking points.

  • Would also like to see some discussion on the… what is it 5, 6, 7, 8 megabases/embassy buildings sprouting up in Iraq? Last I checked, putting my children and their children in debt for these was not on the proposal I received as a tax payer. Can we please address the elephants in the room?

  • why did african american stop the war of world war 11 he is in a joke the middle eastpeople do not want peace they are war mongers the same in africa those people in sudan are cleaning up differenmt tribes why is he ever wamting to do ssomething doing nothing he is a african amarican black fool

  • I hope you all realize most, if not all, of this story is pure fiction. The media’s sad attempt to justify their bias in favor of Obama. the people of america will not choose the next President, the media will….or has.

  • what if they want to wipe out the white tribe in the us THINK ABOUT IT LET THE FIGNTING STAY OVER THERE IN THE MIDDLE EAST GICE THE PALSTINE AND THE JEWS EQUAL WEAPONS LET THEM SHOOT IT OUT TAKE THE MILLIONS THAT THE US GIVES THE JEWS EVERY DAY TO KEEP UP FOR THAM TO SURVIVE FREE WEAPONS GIVE THE PALSTINE FREE WEAPONS REMEMBER EVERY BODY IS CREATED EQUAL

  • Following Space’s comment on July 20th, 2008 at 2:35 pm re “peeringads”

    I’m getting it too! They are everywhere, even on the BBC site. Not sure what they are but you’re the only other person out there that has mentioned it on the web!

    Any insight greatly appreciated as they are beginning to get on my nerves

    Thanks
    Rob

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