Former Clinton campaign manager weighing job with Obama

It’s not at all unusual for a presidential campaign, once it secures the party’s nomination, to pick some of the rival campaigns’ aides. It’s about promoting the best talent, and in some instances, about bringing the party together.

Certainly, under the circumstances, Hillary Clinton’s aides are working under the notion that their campaign is still viable, and aren’t about to start sending over their resumes to Team Obama, but my sense is that some Clinton staffers probably are thinking about how they can help Dems win back the White House, no matter who the nominee is.

We’ll probably have to wait a few more weeks before we see who makes the transition from Clinton aide to Obama aide, but in the meantime, Clinton’s former campaign manager is reportedly already prepared to make the switch.

Hillary Rodham Clinton’s former campaign manager and confidante, Patti Solis Doyle, and Sen. Barack Obama’s top adviser have informally discussed the former Clintonite’s going to work for the Obama campaign in the general election.

Solis Doyle’s possible hiring is a major breach not just in Clinton’s campaign but in the political universe known as “Hillaryland,” a term Solis Doyle reportedly coined after joining the Clintons in 1991 as the first lady’s personal scheduler. She was forced out of Hillary Clinton’s campaign in February amid internal criticism about her spending practices and preparation for upcoming contests.

“I’ve talked to Patti throughout. I know that she wants to be helpful in a general election campaign, and we appreciate that,” Obama’s chief strategist, David Axelrod told Politico, declining directly to answer the question of whether he and Solis Doyle had discussed her working for the campaign.

Just today, Hillary Clinton insisted to a Kentucky audience that the race for the Democratic nomination is “nowhere near over.” When one of her top former confidantes has already begun talking to the Obama campaign about a job, it sounds like we’re at least somewhat close to over.

Also this afternoon, Clinton Communications Director Howard Wolfson was outraged at the suggestion that Obama is poised to declare victory. He released a memo titled, “Mission Accomplished? Not So Fast.”

Senator Obama’s plan to declare himself the Democratic nominee tomorrow night in Iowa (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0508/10184.html) is a slap in the face to the millions of voters in the remaining primary states and to Senator Clinton’s 17 million supporters.

There is no scenario under the rules of the Democratic National Committee by which Senator Obama will be able to claim the nomination tomorrow night. He will not have 2210 delegates, the number needed with Florida and Michigan included in the process, nor will he have 2025 delegates, the number needed to secure the nomination without Florida and Michigan.

Premature victory laps and false declarations of victory are unwarranted. Declaring mission accomplished does not make it so.

While Senator Obama inaccurately declares himself the nominee, Senator Clinton will continue to work hard, campaigning for every vote in the upcoming states and making the case that she will be the best nominee to take on John McCain and be our next President.

That sounds pretty compelling, except for the fact that Obama doesn’t actually have a plan to declare himself the nominee, and hasn’t slapped anyone in the face. Wolfson’s memo is based on an anonymous, two-sentence quote that ran in the Politico two weeks ago.

Today, the Obama campaign made clear it’s preparing for the general election, but it’s not formally declaring victory this week.

Concerned about appearing presumptuous or antagonistic towards Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama will not declare victory in the Democratic nomination fight Tuesday in the event he wins enough pledged delegates to claim a majority.

Rather, he’ll tiptoe right up to the line, without explicitly asserting the race is over.

While it may sound like an exercise in hair-splitting, the conscious decision not to declare victory is a revealing measure of the sensitivity surrounding overtures that appear to disrespect Clinton and her supporters.

It’s also a reflection of the Obama campaign’s supreme confidence in the delegate math at this juncture — the campaign now appears secure enough in its commanding position that it no longer feels compelled to declare victory in an attempt to marginalize Clinton.

And in the meantime, the general election phase of the campaign has clearly begun in earnest.

Hillary Clinton is getting Col. Kurtz-like. On June 3rd we’ll hear her whisper, “the horror, the horror.”

  • Keep fighting, Hillary.

    Seriously.

    Every day that Hillary spends in her bubble is another day when we don’t have her stupid mug yammering about how she now backs the guy who saved us from yet another DLC triangulation-athon. I’m beginning to think her tenaciousness is a gift, because her Old School Politics is the opposite of the Obama way, and a lot of people (especially independents) are really tired of hearing her voice.

    Once she starts to support our guy the anti-Hillary folks (and there are a lot of them) will stop supporting “operation chaos” and proceed to wrap her and her stupidity around Obama’s neck. So keep on fightin’, Hillary.

  • Obama should just ignore Hillary until her formal surrender, and instead focus his campaign on John McCain and George Bush. That’s the message that both candidates should have been delivering for a long time.

    It also has the advantage of giving Democrats what they want to hear without angering the other candidate’s supporters.

  • PATTI SOLIS DOYLE?

    After the way she screwed up Clinton’s campaign funds why would anyone hire her to manage a dog?

  • I don’t know Patti–I do know her brother–but reports of her having been in way over her head on the Clinton campaign seem to click with the rest of her professional reputation.

    I doubt that the Obama people will put her into a position of sweeping leadership. I’m more interested in the phenomenon of some of Clinton’s people moving over to Obama; I expect we’ll see more of this in coming days. Contrast Solis Doyle’s total message of commitment to working to elect a Democratic president with Howard Wolfson’s prissy comment that he was “offended” at even being asked this by a reporter. Campaign people move around all the time; both Solis Doyle and Wolfson are old buddies of David Axelrod’s. To be a one-candidate aide is career suicide, and shows an imperfect grasp of how politics works.

    The Clintons will give Solis Doyle and anyone else who moves over to Obama a very, very hard time. But the ones who can adapt will continue to be forces in the Democratic party. The ones who’ve hitched their wagons irrevocably to the Clintons’ star won’t.

  • As a Clinton supporter, I have to admit I winced about the Iowa rally. On the other hand, I am disappointed well beyond a little wincing at Wolfson’s statement, and given how Hillary herself has kept far away from this sort of thing for the past week or so, certainly hope Wolfson was going solo on his comments.

    The timing of Solis Doyle announcement is unfrotunate; it will get everyone’s backs up (on both sides – Team Clinton will feel betrayed, and many in Team Obama will surely have Tamalak’s reaction at 4. and i agree with Tamalak – what, exactly, job would she have? stuffing envelopes?)

  • I’m not sure I understand how this represents a “break” in Hillaryland. Sure she’s an old time loyalist, but she did get dumped rather unceremoniously a couple months ago. Granted that it was apparently on the merits, and too late, but you can’t necessarily expect Solis Doyle to agree. Adding insult to injury, the vile Mark Penn just got demoted. I can’t imagine that she’s feeling too favorably disposed to the Clinton campaign these days.

  • A 24-year-old woman said she “just preferred woman.” I realized she was onto something new and profound. This isn’t about being gay. It’s about enjoying the company of other women, exploring places with them, and on them with fingers. And tongues. It’s about knowing our own bodies, and those of others, probing each other’s mouth’s with their tongues.

    Women like us feel threatened by the new people moving in who insist on seeing this sisterhood as something sexual. They don’t feel comfortable with the dilution of a heritage they see slipping away and becoming more perverse.

    One who does not share our bonds can not understand how a platonic relationship could be so satisfying that we heterosexuals have no desire for sex with men, because we share an intimacy that those women who fear such a physical closeness can never understand.

  • I don’t see much to this. I have to imagine that any such talks are strictly provisional – that is, they are entirely based on a significant if. Whenever I see a story like this, my initial reaction is that it must be a slow news day.

  • Count me in with Tamalak @4 and Mark @7; what on earth does Team Obama need Patti Solis for? To sow discontent within the campaign? To leak little tidbits to Politico about infighting within the ranks? Certainly not to improve the running of the campaign…

    And I hope Obama will manage not to crow, in Iowa, about getting the majority of pledged delegates, *indisputably* beyond the point where Hillary can catch up; nobody likes a braggart any more than we like sore losers. OTOH… I trust his instincts; it’s not often that he’s put a foot wrong during those grueling months of the campaign, and I doubt he’ll start tomorrow.

  • Oh, and PS… Do we know where Hillary will have her victory speech (for Kentucky)?

  • PATTI SOLIS DOYLE? After the way she screwed up Clinton’s campaign funds why would anyone hire her to manage a dog? — Tamalak

    Yard signs?

  • kathleen parker, could you type that all out again? but…you know…slower?

    seriously, i don’t see wtf your missive has to do with the topic at hand, but if it makes you happy to act so silly to anonymous people on the internet, slainte mhath to you.

    Back on topic, count me amongst those who can’t see what anyone who is or was involved in the Clinton campaign can offer to Obama’s campaign. The campaigns seem to be run much differently, and unless Doyle argues that she was trying to work the campaign in a different direction and was rebuffed & made out to be a scapegoat, she was complicit in the whole fustercluck that is hillary 08. I’d be curious to see what role, if any, she is trusted to have within Obama’s campaign.

  • Maybe they just want her on board for outreach to women, and to Hillary supporters. I certainly hope it’s just for publicity purposes, not for anything strategic.

  • Hillary Rodham Clinton’s former campaign manager and confidante, Patti Solis Doyle, and Sen. Barack Obama’s top adviser have informally discussed the former Clintonite’s going to work for the Obama campaign in the general election.

    They’re going to hire this worthless incompetent? I don’t see it – so far as I can see, the Obama campaign only hires people with triple=digit IQs, and Patti’s only claim to fame is fawning sycophancy and managerial idiocy.

    I guess they could put her in charge of watching for icebergs and the coming Ice Age – but even that is several levels above her Peter Principle level.

  • kathleen parker, could you type that all out again? but…you know…slower?

    “Kathleen Parker” is another manifestation of the multiple personalities existing in that tenth-wit troll from the non-existant “mercenaryscookbook.com”

  • shillary is done – her staff knows it and is ready to move on. Gratefully, most Americans (even working-class whites) know that this nation was not founded to be a monarchy of bush-clinton-bush-clinton.

    They really represent the same interests, which is why rush and the neocons support her.

    I am not ready to join the voices that think her sustained campaign actually helps Obama, but then she will do what she wants anyhow – has shown that honesty and integrity are not impediments to her “style” of campaigning.

    She bought her way into the Senate and has enabled the chimp on virtually everything he has done – very little “liberal” or “progressive” about her.

    Thankfully – the nation has seen this and for all practical purposes, her campaign is done.

  • Oh, and PS… Do we know where Hillary will have her victory speech (for Kentucky)?

    A restroom of a local Quickee-Mart

  • Hey, step off my boyfriend (girlfriend?) mercenaryscookbook!

    And for those who appear to be worrying that Obama might hand over the keys of the campaign to Solis Doyle so she can ruin it–oh, come now. Obama will be our nominee, we have a divided party and the more Clinton campaign people who come over, the more this party circles the wagons around Obama. Bringing Solis Doyle on board does not mean ceding control of the campaign to her. It means sending this message: If even Clinton’s top campaign people can happily work for Obama, surely most of her supporters can manage to vote for him even though he wasn’t their first choice.

    I do think this one would better have come out after the last primary, however. But the tone of the story suggests that it was less an announcement than Solis Doyle and Obama’s people semi-answering Politico’s question of whether and how much it had been discussed.

  • What on EARTH would Obama want with Solis Doyle? By all accounts she is an abysmal operative. The mind boggles. I will be SERIOUSLY disappointed if he hires her. Yeesh.

  • What on EARTH would Obama want with Solis Doyle?

    Mended fences.

    Mended fences.

    Mended fences.

    Come on, you guys–who seriously thinks that if hires her, he does so with the intention of putting her in a leadership role in the campaign? This is mostly about symbolism and partly about Latino/as.

    All of us here know–or should–that decisions like this are political, not strategic. You better get ready to see a lot more people you don’t like coming on board, because that’s a vital part of putting a party back together for the general election. Clinton has lost; is there really any need to shun her people if they want to join our side?

  • Clinton has lost; is there really any need to shun her people if they want to join our side? — Maria, @23

    Equally: is there any reason to put them on your payroll, especially if — as you assume — it’s just for cosmetic purposes and not much function. And hiring incompetents can’t, possibly, burnish his image with his own supporters, however much such tactics might do for mending fences. And I doubt the move would have much value regarding the fence-mending anyway; since she had been fired, the most devoted of Clintonistas will, probably, interpret it as *yet another* offense against their goddess.

  • My day for PS… 🙂

    Re: “mending fences”. Don’t people “mend fences” to keep their neighbors and properties *separate*?

  • who you want from the Clinton campaign:

    fund raising staff (second best operation ever, behind only Obama)
    field staff in large primary states (NY, California, Ohio, Penn., Tex)
    health care policy staff

    who you dont want from the Clinton campaign:

    pretty well everyone else.
    although about every third of her TV and viral video spots were pretty good.

  • Obama is fighting two huge battles at the same time, with McCain attacking him and Hillary out to knock him off. Listen to her campaign appeal AGAIN TO WOMEN, using the gendered emotional language of abuse–“a slap in the face”–to get the women out to vote against him. AND we know Obama has been a gentleman throughout!! Hillary is moving the goalposts AGAIN–raising the numbers of delegates, saying that only certain votes count. Her attacks have created a climate of misery for all Democrats. The Party needs to declare victory for Senator Obama NOW in order to win in November.

  • i didnt know any othere place to send this email and couldnt find one at this time. but i want to give my opinion. whatswrong with those super delagates? dont they knpw mr oboma has poor judgement it took him over 20 yrs to disown mr wright and the teachings of his church and then he left the church because rev. wright was makig him look bad in front of the american public.. he only caresabout himself. and then the remark mrs oboma made on thelarry king show she meant it listen to her words again i know sheis saying something different now. all he wants is to be the first black president. i think colen pal would make a good president. wake up superdelgates. im sure your making the wrong chose. thank yoy gloria

  • Hey CNN…Keep playing those Saturday Night Live jokes–it’s real hilarious. I just wonder how many people are catching on to the fact that CNN supports comedy which implies that almost half of all democrats are racist. The explanation? Because many people will not vote for Obama in a general election. I don’t suppose Obama’s lack of experience could possibly explain that! Obama delivers a nice speach but I still haven’t heard any substance to it. I already know that my 25 year old son can’t afford healthcare, that my daughter is struggling to get through college and I can’t help her and my two youngest sons will probably never be able to go. I also know that I drive 60 miles a day back and forth to work and and that my grocery bill is now less than my gas bill for a family of five. You’ve told me what I already know, but you haven’t given me any credible scenarios on how you plan to fix it. In my opinion…there are many examples of great speakers who inspired people and motivated them to act. Jesus was one, HItler was another. Know your candidate. Obviously, we didn’t know Bush!

  • As a woman, I am embarrased to see the Clinton campaign become so gender-based. Ferraro calling Obama is so off-the-mark, that it’s bizarre.

    It is offensive to see this divide; I thought that women had really made progress. Is this Hillary’s last best hope? To frighten Obama supporters by pulling the gender card.

    Hillary cannot win; the numbers are simply not there and counting FL and MI is absurd when there will be a DNC decision on 5/31. What is the point here?

    I am a professional woman; I don’t wish to be pulled back in history. Did Obama call a young reporter “sweetie”? Yes, and he apologized. Did I take offense at that? No way! I have been called kiddo and I’ve called younger men “kiddo’. It is 2008 and the last thing I want is bitter women. That is appearing to be Hillary’s legacy.

  • Robbin Keley, @ 29
    So, OK… You’re certain Obama won’t be able to help you… So… Who do you think *will*? Or do you plan to stay home in November and save yourself some gas?

    Re gloria pitman’s posting, @28:
    This foreigner wants to register, for the public record, her opinion that gloria pitman’s English is worse — in every respect — than what we were taught in a commie Poland highschool (and we only had English 3 times a week, 45minutes each time). Is that what NCLB has wrought on American education?

  • “The Clintons will give Solis Doyle and anyone else who moves over to Obama a very, very hard time.”

    It sounds to me like the Obama people would give Solis Doyle a harder time than the Clintons, based on the comments above.

    What would they want with her? She is Hispanic. Obama has a problem with Hispanics. He doesn’t have many on his staff. He needs help attracting their vote. It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t even notice that, but Hispanics will notice.

    Solis Doyle was dumped from Clinton’s campaign, so it isn’t as if Clinton’s current staff is defecting to Obama. These rumors are her revenge, but I doubt it means anything about any other Clinton staff.

    Obama must reconcile with Clinton supporters or he cannot win, and your deriding them doesn’t help your candidate accomplish that goal. Nor does mocking Ferraro, someone I personally admire because she ran back when there was no chance of her being taken seriously, and she suffered a great deal of overt abuse for it, including the attacks on her husband (note that Obama claims Michelle is off limits, despite her campaigning for him). Now, Ferraro is willing to be a lightning rod again in order to say things that need to be said about the nature of Obama’s campaign, the way he continually plays the race card whenever it suits him. That takes guts. Vilify her and you push many women away from Obama in the Fall. Like Ferraro, we can and will sit this election out if Obama and his supporters continue on this tack.

  • I hope we can win this election without Clinton Supports. What a bunch of bitter people. And yes that was a direct reference. Geraldine looked like a complete idiot on TV today. The whole world does not revolve around Hillary Clinton. It does not revolve around her voters. It does not revolve around women. nothing like feeling the rath of a woman scorned…. But dude… no one scorned you. Voters all over the nation voted and you lost! You lost! I know you are all upset but back off!

  • Thanks Maria, for the laughs and for hitting the nail on the head.

    Given the nature of the contest, bringing in former Clinton staffers is great PR for Obama. Someone like Solis-Doyle helps a lot, and realistically will likely not be heavily involved in strategy or ‘inner-circle’ dealings. Less prominent staffers with key capabilities might also be good, but of little value from a PR perspective, and presumably no poaching is allowed anyway.

  • LACJ: Less prominent staffers with key capabilities might also be good, but of little value from a PR perspective, and presumably no poaching is allowed anyway.

    Thanks for the kind words. No, no poaching allowed, but it will be interesting to see how “poaching” is defined in this race after June 3. If the rest of the party/country moves on but Clinton tries to drag this out all summer, what will her campaign staff do? They all have future careers to think about. I wonder if she’s thinking about that at all.

    Mary: It doesn’t surprise me that you don’t even notice that

    It doesn’t surprise me that you didn’t notice my mentioning that very thing. By the way, Obama now leads Clinton among Hispanic voters 51-44.

  • when is the democratic party going to stand up and say-Hillary takes the lead and announce Obama will be her running mate? They could sweep the nation for the next 8 to sixteen years. Obama learns the ropes, meets everyone around the world, learns all the nuances from a seasoned veteran, and our world becomes a better place. By the time Obama gets done then, he gets the country in the black and is one of the greatest presidents alive.

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