Four more years — of Cheney?

January 3, 2008

In all likelihood, you don’t need yet another reason to reject the very idea of a Rudy Giuliani presidential administration. Here’s one anyway.

Would a Rudy Giuliani administration be populated with a cabinet of Republican rivals and a powerful, all-knowing vice president like Dick Cheney? Possibly, according to musings Giuliani shared in answers to questions from New Hampshire voters Wednesday evening in Hooksett. […]

Later, Giuliani pivoted from a question about potential picks for secretary of state to this: “Let me answer with the question of what you would look for in a vice president first — again without any presumption that I’m going to be the nominee.”

In an answer that mentioned Cheney more than once, Giuliani said, “A vice president has to be a partner in the administration. The vice president has to know everything that’s going on, just in case the vice president has to step in at a moment’s notice,” he said. He added that during a conversation with Cheney on Sept. 11, 2001, he felt the vice president “had a sense that he knew what he was doing.”

Now, I suspect most reasonable people — now and in the future — will look at Cheney’s tenure as one of the more destructive, nefarious aspects of Bush’s presidency. The vice president has not only been wrong about every possible challenge, he’s raised the stakes on everything from dishonesty to secrecy, demagoguery to corruption.

Indeed, in some of the debates for Republican presidential candidates last fall, most of the GOP field agreed that they would not follow in Bush’s example, and give their VPs the broad powers and authority Bush has given Cheney.

And yet, there’s Giuliani, suggesting the last seven years would serve as a positive model for the next president. (This wasn’t a fluke; he said the same thing in November.)

The mind reels.

There’s a thread title to make you sick.

Jezz CB, I nearly spewed on the keyboard.

But reading further, we simply find proof positive that Rudy is a dangerous twit who should not even be allowed to talk to people.

There must be a padded cells somewhere with his name on the door.

  • I thought Rudy was only hiring lunatics like Podheretz who were too crazy to be on Team Bush. Maybe he’s running out of crazies who are willing to be associated with him.

    Good on the Republicans for finally realizing what a creep he is, but the fact that he was even close to being popular does not bode well for this nation.

  • Let’s say nothing more about how Giuliani’s estimation of Cheney was formed during a certain 24-hour period just over six years ago.

  • How about four more years of Clinton?

    I mean Bill of course.
    As Obama’s Veep.

    Hillary?
    Third place in Iowa?

    I haven’t cachinnated so loud since Bush swallowed a whole pretzel.

  • I’m now convinced that Rudy has not only read Charlie Savage’s “Takeover,” he’s using it as a plan.

    Step one: More war – those commander in chief powers will let me argue that I can do anything…and I will.

    Step two: Cheney as VP – forget Rove, this guy is the real architect of unlimited presidential power.

    The mind does reel – I can only hope that Rudy is out of this thing before February 5.

  • There are a couple of theories that could explain Rudy’s batsh*t crazy ideas about Cheney. Either Rudy is one of Dick’s super-secret Office of VP staff already and is running merely as a proxy for Dick or Rudy is really pulling a Fred Thompson and crying out to the public, “Don’t vote for me! I want out of this crazy election.”

    I don’t know how he does it but Rudy just keeps finding ways to get even more insane each and every day.

  • I have a theory that since the VP is not part of the Executive Branch, Dick Cheney can’t be removed from office just because Bush’s term is up. Since the Constitution does not provide for a limit on the term of office of the Fourth Branch, the current incumbent must have life tenure.

  • Hmmm. My first reaction was similar to Lance’s. But as I was struggling to keep my lunch behind my teeth I had a thought:

    Ghoolie is under the impression that because you don’t see Dick hamming it up in front of the cameras, he’s a cipher. Dick n’ Bush only get along because Bush is a lazy slob. Provided he thinks things are going his way he doesn’t care. With Dick n’ Ghoolie you’d have two forceful egomaniacs getting in each other’s way, arguing, shouting, hopefully getting into fist fights. If Ghoolie were to get the nod (hang on Lance) and he did select a Dick-like running mate, you’d see some amusing scuffles through out 2008.

    Popcorn?

  • TAiO, how can you possibily offer popcorn after writing a script outline like that?

    Even Stephen King is reaching for the airsick bag.

    Though in a way I think you are being unfair to Boy George II. There have been flashes, admittedly few and far between and not enough for the good of this country, when he seems to realize that HE’S President, and acts like it. Hence the glare at Rove after the 2006 debacle, and Rove’s eventual ouster. Hence the reports BGII’s slapped down Cheney in meetings, and thus Rumsfeld’s eventual ouster (which I believe are tied together).

    You do paint a grotesque and distrubing image however, like the crashes you rubberneck past on the highway.

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