Fred Thompson clueless again, this time on Iraqi WMD

Actor/lobbyist/politician Fred Thompson has been away from politics for a few years, so it probably didn’t surprise too many that he came across as confused and uninformed shortly after he kicked off his odd presidential campaign. He was a little rusty, and needed some time to clear the cobwebs, read some white papers, and listen to some policy briefings.

Well, it’s been a few weeks. How’s the Republicans’ Savior doing? Somehow, Thompson seems to be getting more befuddled, not less. (thanks to Timmy for the heads-up)

Former Tennessee Sen. Fred Thompson said today he was certain former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction prior to the 2003 U.S.-led invasion of Iraq, a point of contention in the 4.5 years since the war began.

“We can’t forget the fact that although at a particular point in time we never found any WMD down there, he clearly had had WMD. He clearly had had the beginnings of a nuclear program,” the former Tennessee senator told an audience of about 60 at a Newton cafe. […]

Thompson made the statement while explaining why he felt the war was justified, despite the Bush administration’s chief justification for the invasion turning out not to be verifiable.

Look, it’s 2007. We’ve been over this. We’ve all been over this for years. The WMD debate ended a long time ago, and sensible people know better than to make dumb arguments like this, especially in public.

One might be tempted to argue that Thompson was referring to Iraqi munitions from the 1990s, but that’s overly generous, and in this case, wrong. His comments about Iraq “clearly” having WMD were in the context of justifying the 2003 invasion. Iraq clearly didn’t have those WMD, as even the Bush administration is willing to acknowledge.

Note to Thompson: play time is over. If you want to be President of the United States, you might want to get a clue before hitting the campaign trail. At this point, you’ve become a bit of a joke.

I should note that if McCain or Cheney made the same remarks, I’d accuse them of lying. They’re certainly in a position to know the truth, so to intentionally mislead people is deceptive and dishonest.

But with Thompson, I don’t think he’s lying; I think he’s ignorant. He probably means what he says, he just doesn’t realize how foolish his words make him appear. Thompson isn’t a liar; he’s dim-witted.

Consider the news from just the past couple of weeks:

* Tennessee, Thompson’s alleged home state, is in the midst of a major controversy over executions by way of lethal injection. A federal judge ruled the procedures unconstitutional last week, which was big news in the state. Asked for his opinion on the developments on Friday, Thompson responded, “I hadn’t heard that. I didn’t know.”

* Asked about the Jena Six, Thompson said, “I don’t know anything about it.”

* Asked about his thoughts on the Terri Schiavo matter, Thompson said, “That’s going back in history. I don’t remember the details of it.”

* Asked about hurricane property insurance while campaigning in Florida, a huge local issue, Thompson said he doesn’t “know all the facts surrounding that case.”

* Asked about Social Security reform, one of the top issues on his policy agenda, Thompson said he couldn’t remember what Bush’s position was on Social Security two years ago.

* Asked about oil drilling in the Everglades, while campaigning in Florida, Thompson said he didn’t know there was oil under the Everglades and didn’t know it was an important local issue.

A couple of weeks ago, former White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer said it’s not too late for Fred Thompson to compete for the GOP nomination, but to make up for lost time, the former senator must demonstrate “a command over policy issues.” Fleischer added, “He’s got to knock the policy questions out of the park.”

So much for that idea.

Post Script: I’m reminded, by the way, that Obama was accused of making several foreign policy and national security “gaffes,” all of which turned out not to be gaffes at all. Will the media give Thompson’s foolish comments about WMD equal treatment?

“Will the media give Thompson’s foolish comments about WMD equal treatment?”

of course they will. they are fair and balanced, are they not?

oh.
right.

  • Will the media give Thompson’s foolish comments about WMD equal treatment?

    LOL. That was a good one, Mr. Carpetbagger.

    Somehow, Thompson seems to be getting more befuddled, not less.

    Uh-oh. I may have to go back on my Gingrich-as-nominee prediction. The above statement would argue for his winning the GOP nomination. The GOP seems to prefer befuddlement, as long as its served up with a generous helping of machismo and tax cuts.

  • Freddie doesn’t remember. He doesn’t know. He may have seen something but he isn’t sure.

    And Bush did call the former Alberto Gonzales Fredo.

    Has anyone ever seen Freddie T. and Allie G. in the same room?

  • Well, you have to admit that if the Bush Party supporters want to vote for someone who will continue their long and proud tradition of denying reality, they have lots of appropriate candidates to choose from.

  • The GOP seems to prefer befuddlement…

    While they certainly don’t want pointy-headed intellectuals running the show, they always did make a point of giving Bush the right soundbites so he could sound vaguely aware of what the hell was going on, even if it only proved that he could remember a soundbite. Thompson doesn’t even have that low level of understanding. And remember, there are still those who insist that Bush is secretly a bright guy. Nobody will make that mistake with Thompson. I honestly don’t think Fred will last to January.

    But all this is just for fun anyway. I’m telling you, Romney’s going to be the nominee. He’s the only one who can fill the suit properly.

  • I hear tell he done drove his very own red pickup truck to visit with folks when he was runnin for senator. Now theirs a regular guy. Not some slick talking educated liberal type. And hes real tall too. And hes Churchgoing. And his wifes got big boobies wheel all get to see on tv when hes president. Ive decided to vote for him this November. Hes the one thatl watch our for us working folks just as good as Bush has done.

  • Don’t be so negatively skeptical, dudes. Fred’ll get better scriptwriters and then he’ll know what to say and sound like all the other candidates.

    Yours crankily,

  • “Tell the Kurds that Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction prior to 2003.”

    Has anyone ever denied that Saddam used chemical weapons? Especially after the attack on the Kurdish city of Halabja in 1988 was showed all over the world?

    Okay, the Reagan administration initially claimed that the Iranians launched the attack, and then blocked a Congressional bill that would have put economic sanctions on Iraq (The Prevention of Genocide Act of 1988) as a direct result of the attack, but they were about the only ones.

  • I wonder if someone long ago told a young Fred Thompson: “Fat, dumb and stupid is no way to go through life, son.”

    It went in one ear and out the other.

  • #7 and #9; besides which, Saddam obtained his chemical weapons arsenal from the United States. Selling (actually, transferring) them to Saddam forfeited the right to bitch later about who he used them on, unless the transfer was subject to a written statement by Saddam, “I promise I will not gas the Kurds”. Someone always goes all pious and holier-than-thou on the subject of Saddam gassing the Kurds. Yes, it was bad. If you want people to stop doing bad things with weapons that originate in the U.S., quit being the biggest flippin’ arms merchant on the planet. When a dictator gets his weapons from China and then does something horrible with those weapons, you can bitch.

    At around that time in history, if you’ll recall, the United States was busily selling arms to both sides in the Iran-Iraq war. Uncle Sam once had high hopes for Iran as the compliant satellite he’s now trying to wrestle to the ground in Iraq. That’s how Iran ended up being the only nation besides the U.S. (to the very best of my knowledge) to fly the F-14 Tomcat, with the incredible 70-mile Phoenix Anti-Air missile. Nothing could touch it in its day, and America didn’t just hand them around lightly.

  • Coming soon to your favorite video arcade: “UnAware Fred—Slaying Cognitive Thinking!”

  • Saying the debate is over doesn’t make it over. Speaking as a conservative, one of Bush’s greatest failings was saying the WMD weren’t there. He undermined his own cause, and gave the liberals free reign to undermine the war in Iraq.

    I can regale you with boatloads of information on the subject, which is basically putting dot after dot on your screen before connecting them, but I’ll cut to the chase. I’ve pawed through wads of articles and data, testimony from Iraqi military officials, and word from several weapons inspectors, from David Kay and David Kelly to Rolf Ekeus and Hans Blix. I’ve read damning sections of the Duelfer Report, and I’ve read the sworn testimony of most every liberal leader (past and present). I’ve done all kinds of other research in conjunction with two other friends, on a strictly private basis, about the question of whether or not Hussein had WMD.

    He did. There is no question. There was no question when we went to war, and I believe Bush has no question now. (He’s made some kind of deal, no idea what it could be, but it’s killing his legacy right now.) Funny how liberals screamed for months that Bush lied, and as soon as he says “we didn’t find any” you start believing him. It’s also puzzling how Mr. Bush could be so mind-numbingly stupid (as liberals continue to insist that he is) and yet dupe John Kerry and Hillary Clinton and the other Democrats in the House and Senate into supporting the war!

    I think it’s also funny that the NYTimes accused Bush and the government of being careless about publishing seized materials from Iraq which explained how to build a nuclear bomb (which America’s enemies didn’t need to see) when they were the loudest critics about how Hussein didn’t have nuclear capabilities. Similarly, media sources accused Bush of botching the job when tons of munitions were supposedly left unguarded in Iraq and stolen – munitions which the media insists didn’t exist. (Having our cake and eating it too?)

    The WMD was only one of several reasons for going to war, and among these was Hussein’s support of international terrorism, which is well-documented.

    I’ve got a hoard of information stored on my computer related to this issue, but I doubt anyone here is open to it anyway. Give me a holler if you are. Ha. Ha.

  • OMG, there really are a few WMD flat-earthers out there. God help us. These must be the same people who believe GW Bush really did show up for his military service, but then “lost” all of his official records showing it.

    I bet they don’t even know “gullible” isn’t actually in Webster’s dictionary.

  • It just good politics to reinforce the myths your base wants to believe in. Why should Thompson care whether or not it’s truthful? The only real risk is if the media collectively decide to point out that he’s wrong; however, there’s not much risk of that.

  • Since we are talking about what “we’ve been over” (as you say), let us review the fact that although no recently manufactured WMD was found in Iraq, Saddam Hussein maintained the means to develop said weapons. More important however is the success with which Hussein deceived the world into thinking that he retained the weapons. I would like to have thought our intelligence services and those of nearly a dozen countries including the UN could have seen through his charade. But that was not to be. By all accounts, from all the nations who offered their opinion, Saddam had the fu**ing WMD. And that is how WMD became the primary impetus for the invasion. But it was not the only reason Saddam needed to be taken out. But I’ll save that for another comment on another day.

    Thompson should be explaining the matter the way I explained it above. As a supporter of Fred Thompson, I am disappointed that he didn’t.

  • #16: Note that Bush NEVER said that Iraq or Hussein were an “imminent threat”. In fact he said that they were not. It was the press that were using those terms. In fact in the state of the union message where it was talked about, the justification was to attack BEFORE they were an imminent threat. Actually (regardless of whether or not it is a good policy) that is the definition of the “Bush Doctrine”.

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