Friday’s Mini-Report

Today’s edition of quick hits.

* This really isn’t good: “Iraq’s most influential Shiite cleric has been quietly issuing religious edicts declaring that armed resistance against U.S.-led foreign troops is permissible — a potentially significant shift by a key supporter of the Washington-backed government in Baghdad. The edicts, or fatwas, by Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani suggest he seeks to sharpen his long-held opposition to American troops and counter the populist appeal of his main rivals, firebrand Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr and his Mahdi Army militia.”

* She probably should have picked a better historical comparison: “Sen. Hillary Clinton referred Friday to the assassination of Robert Kennedy in 1968 Democratic campaign as a reason she should continue to campaign despite increasingly long odds. Clinton was responding to a question from the Sioux Falls Argus Leader editorial board about calls for her to drop out of the race. ‘My husband did not wrap up the nomination in 1992 until he won the California primary somewhere in the middle of June, right? We all remember Bobby Kennedy was assassinated in June in California. I don’t understand it,’ she said, dismissing the idea of dropping out.”

* It’s about time: “Myanmar’s ruling junta said Friday it will let foreign aid workers and commercial ships help survivors in the cyclone-ravaged Irrawaddy Delta, but refused to relent on accepting aid from U.S., French and British military ships.”

* Spencer Ackerman takes a closer look at Bush’s speech yesterday at Fort Bragg, and concludes, “Every word of this is a lie.”

* Remember when Cindy McCain said she would “never” release her tax returns? It was probably never a tenable position to take.

* Tom Edsall: “The steady disclosures of past lobbying activity by campaign aides, and the struggle to minimize firings, continue to plague John McCain’s presidential campaign — but the reality is that these problems only get worse the deeper anyone digs.”

* More discouraging economic news: “A home-price index considered to be the most comprehensive reading of the U.S. market posted the sharpest decline in its 17-year history, and analysts say housing has yet to bottom out.”

* This sounds encouraging: “After years of struggling to catch up to the Republican Party’s sophisticated microtargeting efforts, the Democratic National Committee appears to have come close to parity. The DNC has now reorganized its data banks into one centralized file that goes a long way toward neutralizing the GOP’s advantage in drilling down and identifying crucial constituencies of voters.”

* Dumb, dumb, dumb: “Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D-Pa.) was caught on a year-old video clip telling some of his constituents that Congressional Democrats oversold their ability to end the war during the 2006 campaign. ‘We really in this last election – when I say we, the Democrats — I think pushed it as far as we can, the envelope. Didn’t say it, but we implied it — that we, if we won the Congressional elections, we could stop the war,’ Kanjorski said in the video. ‘Now anybody who is a good student of government would know that wasn’t true. But you know, the temptation to want to win back the Congress, we sort of stretched the facts — and people ate it up.'”

* Good to see lawmakers following up on the Pentagon Pundit scandal.

* Tim Russert believes the controversy surrounding McCain and his legion of lobbyists is a fairly big deal. It’s a shame, then, that he won’t mention it on “Meet the Press.”

* I get the sense that CNN’s Lou Dobbs does not respond well to criticism: “Media Matters fellow Paul Waldman … asked Dobbs to provide evidence of the ‘myth’ he often promotes — that there is a ‘secret plan’ to build a ‘NAFTA Superhighway’ from Mexico to Canada. Having trouble providing evidence, an exasperated Dobbs said finally, ‘You’re charging nonsense.’ ‘I reject it, I reject you, and I reject your position,’ he angrily added.”

* McCain’s position on telecom immunity has gone from bad to incoherent.

* And finally, the president’s sole campaign responsibility this year was to raise money for Republicans (who don’t necessarily want to be seen with him). As it turns out, Bush is even having trouble doing this: “Even in campaigns for Congress, where White House officials are focusing their political efforts, Mr. Bush’s impact appears to be reduced. Notably, he has raised only $36.6 million for Republican candidates and committees through early May, compared with $66.6 million last year and $131.6 million in 2006, according to Republican National Committee figures.”

Anything to add? Consider this an end-of-the-day open thread.

Is it far fetched to believe that Hilary would like Obama to be assassinated in her own demented mind? Looks like she let that wish slip out there.

Reason number 573 why Obama shouldn’t pick Hilary to be VP—she’d go all 24 on him and get one of her wack-o supporters to “win” her back the presidency.

Ugh.

  • So, Hillary’s hangin’ on in case the people who’s racist tendencies she exploits decide to take matters into their own hands. Nobody can accuse her of not thinking ahead.

  • avi, I think you might have nailed it. I strongly suspect Hillary’s comment was a Freudian slip. A gruesome, disturbing, sad Freudian slip.

  • A gruesome, disturbing, sad Freudian slip. -hermit crab

    ‘Freudian’ implies it was accidental, though.

    I’m not so sure.

  • I keep thinking I’m shocked “out” and then more ugliness erupts from Hillary’s campaign. If this appalling, possibly Freudian slippage is how she performs under pressure, it’s one more reason why she must fold her tent and make amends by working for the Democratic nominee.

  • I said in an earlier thread that something horrible like this is the only reason Hillary would want the VP nomination. Maybe an innocent slip. Or maybe a window into her thoughts.

    (I don’t buy into the wingnuts’ allegations that the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered, and I certainly don’t think that they would put out a hit on anyone else. But it never hurts to be in the right place if the unthinkable should happen…)

  • I said in an earlier thread that something horrible like this is the only reason Hillary would want the VP nomination. Maybe an innocent slip. Or maybe a window into her thoughts.

    (I don’t buy into the wingnuts’ allegations that the Clintons had Vince Foster murdered, and I certainly don’t think that they would put out a hit on anyone else. But it never hurts to be in the right place if the unthinkable should happen…)

    It’s an exciting beginning to the Memorial Day weekend, isn’t it? It’s Friday, and today we had the dump of both McCain’s medical records and Cindy’s 2006 tax return. There’s something about Fridays….

  • An apology isn’t enough. You can’t say something like that and say, “oops, sorry.” she put it out there, and this is the second assassination comment coming from the clinton camp…this one from the candidate herself. Its just like the “hard working americans, white Americans remark.” Put it out there and apologize later. The damage has been done. If this RFK rmark was intended to sway super delegates I think she completely miscalculated. She’s not fit to even be considered anymore.

    And any thoughts of a VP nod? I don’t think so.

  • Having just read (at AmericaBlog) that Hillary made this very same “RFK was assassinated in June” comment a few months ago during an interview with TIME’s Richard Stengal, I withdraw my opinion regarding her comment earlier today being a Freudian (i.e., accidental) slip. It now seems clear her comment was no accident.

    But why is she going around making this comment? Is she saying to all those persons who are urging her to get out of the race “Look, anything can happen between now and the convention – for example; someone could assassinate Obama – so just get off my back, will ya”?

  • A friend just emailed me to say that Olbermann will have a special commentary about that remark tonight. I hope he eviscerates her (one more time and for good). This is so totally beyond the bounds of sanity that I can hardly contain my rage, so I’ll leave it at that.

  • SaintZak… have no worries in this regard:
    She didn’t really apologize: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjWCM_RSIY0

    Oh she might have blown some pretty smoke rings at dead Kennedys, but that is about it. She doesn’t have enough class to make a genuine apology. There is nothing even mildly heartfelt there…

  • Hillary is praying, almost suggesting someone assasinate Obama. The thought wouldn’t come out of her mouth if it wasn’t in her head. She is a hate filled evil person. Is this really what we want to represent our country which is already so badly damaged from Bush. I swear she sounds more like Bush with each passing sound bite. God help us all if she gets elected.

  • ROTFLMLiberalAO @12,

    Exactly.

    Her so-called apology was, “I regret that if my referencing that moment of trauma for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family was in any way offensive.”

    I don’t care how the traditional media characterizes this comment…it’s no apology.

    Let’s look at it closely. She’s referencing what she refers to as a “moment of trauma”. What moment of trauma? The one for our entire nation and in particular the Kennedy family.

    She regrets it if referencing that moment of trauma was in any way offensive. Why? Because she’s getting bad press. Her remorse wasn’t delivered in the form of an apology or even a sign of sympathy for those directly affected (the Kennedy family and the Obama family).

    This isn’t the first time the media has let her get away with her “regrets” by characterizing them as apologies. She also regretted it, in front of an African-American audience, if anything coming out of her campaign was regarded as racially insensitive.

    Give me a fucking break.

  • I remember Michael Moore saying something about people having strong reations to an animal being shot in a film, while saying nothing about a black man being shot in the same film. People have seen it happen in movies and on TV so much, they are desensitized to the image.

    It is there in the national subconscious, but for people like Huckabee and Hillary to let such things pass their lips is so sinful.

    Let’s hope the Secret Service is actually doing their job.

  • Don’t forget the Phoenix Martian Lander will (hopefully) touch down in the Martian arctic region at 7:53 p.m. EDT on Sunday. Read about it here:

    http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/080522-phoenix-landing-steps.html

    It will take time for the dust to settle, and then for the signals to cross over to earth, so we should first hear from the spacecraft sometime before 8:30 if all goes well. It often doesn’t on these Martian missions.

  • This is hardly due to her “thinking about the Kennedy family”, it is a part of her standard argument.

    The who-died-and-left-you-in-charge argument?

    Not sure… but didn’t Aristotle show that one to be flawed?

  • I gave HRC the benefit of doubt over “the cry” on the eve of NH, and later came to regret it. It turned out to be just one in a long line of such regrets, so I’m not so quick any more to assume such moves may not be calculated.

    Not only has she taken over the news cycle with her RFK tidbit, she’s elevated the unthinkable from the back of people’s minds onto the TV with enough plausible deniability that some will take her side.

    More Clinton drama. I’m so sick of her drama. I tried ignoring it, but it’s like a fly in the room that you just can’t get rid of. Sooner or later, you get so crazy that — hey, I’m just talking about swatting flies!

    I’m sorry if anyone takes offense.

  • The Ackerman story about Bush’s total lie is ironic in more than one way—it links Bush’s words to those of Yuri Andropov, who used the same stupid idea to justify putting Soviet troops into Afghanistan. We all know how that worked out.

    But the second part of the irony is that Andropov’s family name used to be Lieberman….

  • The who-died-and-left-you-in-charge argument?

    As one philosopher (not Aristotle) said in reference to going to a brothel that featured young boys, “Once a philosopher, twice a pervert.” In this case she has brought up the RFK argument three times: in March with Time magazine, in April as reported by NBC, and today. If it had only been today, I would have put it down as fatigue but Sen. Clinton is supposed to be the consumate politician. She may play hardball at times, but as George Bush told Sen. McCain, “That’s politics”, part of the process. In this case it seems to be more than “just politics”, it is a foolish mistake on her part that calls into question her ability to be a winning candidate.

  • That RFK remark was not only tacky, it was nonsensical.

    The reason Bobby was in California that night was that the California primary HAD JUST HAPPENED.

    This year it happened in February.

    It’s pointless to use June 1968 to make a case for staying in the race in June 2008, because the entire primary calendar was shifted forward by months! That’s how we ended up with the whole Michigan/Florida issue, because they moved up further than anyone else.

    New Hampshire, which was March 12, 1968, was January 8 this year.

    So, if I weren’t insulted by her choosing, to justify her stubbornness, the example of a great man who didn’t get a choice about when he left the race (which I am), I’d be insulted by the way she thinks I’m too stupid to remember that the process started WAY EARLY this year, so June this year is quite different from June in past years.

  • Would you be as sick of her drama if, perhaps, the rest of her words, or Obama’s mis-steps, got as much press?

    Look, the media eats up bittergate et al.

    Don’t empower it.

  • Oh, and by the way, it was really special of her to mention RFK’s death while his survivors are all still coping with the news of his brother’s brain tumor. Great display of empathy, there.

  • No excuse for shillary – other than she is willing to undermine Obama and the democratic party any way she can. THE CLINTONS ARE NOT REALLY DEMOCRATS

    After last weeks publicity about hucklebee joking about pointing a gun…

    Now shillary wants to talk about assassination as a reason she must stay in the race.

    NO CLINTON-BUSH-CLINTON-BUSH JUNTA!!!!!

    She has ruined the clinton’s reputation, and that is pretty hard when you consider all the negative crap that was thrown at them in the 1990’s.

  • crissa – anyone that has read the threads the last couple of weeks know you are a chronic liar that can’t actually back up anything you say.

    You come in and drop the same crap that is always proved wrong with a variety of links that show you are dishonest and so is your candidate shillary.

    Say – how come shillary hides behind kkkarl rove now and rush limbaugh – “catapulting the propaganda”?

    If she is such a great democratic candidate – why does she rely on the 2 biggest lying liars that have spewed hate for the dems for so many years?

  • Hey, crissa, and you lying liar shillary sociopaths (i.e. mary, greg, mark stubby-pencil) – TAKE THIS!!!!

    New York Gov. David Paterson, a superdelegate who supports Hillary Rodham Clinton, said she’s showing “a little desperation” and should give up her effort to count votes from renegade primaries in Michigan and Florida.

    Paterson said Thursday that Clinton shouldn’t derail the process by which the national Democratic Party stripped Michigan and Florida of their national convention delegates because they moved their primaries up to January in violation of party rules. The rules were agreed to by all the candidates, including Clinton, before she won the two January contests. Because of the violations, no candidates campaigned in either state and her rival Barack Obama took him name off the Michigan ballot.

    AND

    The endorsement by US Rep. Dennis Cardoza (D-California) of Obama today sends an extremely firm message to the Clinton campaign, and not only because he was, until today, a Clinton superdelegate.

    The Field has learned that Cardoza is the first of a group of at least 40 Clinton delegates, many of them from California, that through talking among themselves came to a joint decision that all of them would vote for Obama at the convention. They have informed Senator Clinton that it’s time to unite around Obama, and that they will be coming out, one or two at a time, and announcing their switch between now and the convention if Senator Clinton doesn’t do the same.

  • In gaming circles, we have a saying.

    When you have only one way to win, put yourself in a position such that if that way happens, you WILL win, maximize the chances of that way happening, and then hope.

  • Hillary AM:

    1) Denies her camp is seeking VP spot. Claims Obama camp is lying about this to get her out of the race.

    Hillary PM:

    2) Says she is staying in the race because you never know about pseudo-random bullets….

    Putting (1) + (2) together:

    She really was fishing for the VP position. But Barack’s camp leaked the facts to undermine her position. Pure and simple: Poker. The leak shows she realizes it’s over, and is casting about for a handout. That pissed her off. Ergo her second remark. Which can be read as flipping Barack off and saying: “I’ll quit over your dead body.”

    The upshot of all this?

    Clinton’s temper just cost her. She won’t be VP. She won’t be anything important in Barack’s presidency. She got gamed today. Punked, punted, and now punished by the pundits.

    In other words:
    Time for Hillary to put the sad clown makeup on and stick a gag fork in her forehead.
    She’s pwned.

  • i hope i haven’t
    embarrassed larry flynt
    with an earlier post
    on another thread
    a couple days ago

    this might take
    a billion

    no excuse et moi this time

  • OK. Call me Pollyanna (or worse). As dismayed as I have been by Senator Clinton’s rhetoric, e.g., comparing FLA to Zimbabwe, I cannot believe her words are a wish (secret or otherwise) that Barack Obama would suffer the same or a similar fate as that which took Bobby Kennedy from us. I just cannot believe her capable of such evil or ambition. I am more inclined to think that she is searching for an impossible historical analogy (1968) to justify her remaining in the race for the nomination this late in the 2008 game. I have heard her refer before to 1968 and say something like (cannot remember her exact words) that Bobby Kennedy was still contesting the race into June of 1968. Even that reference rang flat, because he was assassinated in June. To refer to him “as contesting” in June is a “Huh?” moment, too.

    Senator Clinton is clearly having difficulty coming to grips with the cards that have been dealt to her. This race IS close. I cannot begin to imagine how difficult it would be to step away from the dream of (or obsession with) becoming the most powerful person on the planet and the first woman to reach that high goal (not to mention the first husband / wife tandem to serve). I have no doubt that her will, determination, and intelligence (and, yes ruthlessness) were instrumental in Bill’s political successes. To come so close only to be eclipsed by a political phenomenon like Barack Obama has got to be a bitter pill. So, although I have been disgusted by some of the Senator’s rationalizations for staying in the race, I have continued to hope that she would once all the primaries were over with. And, I cannot bring myself to believe Hillary Clinton’s reference to RFK was the expression of her secret wish to be that nominee via the death of her opponent.

  • …I have continued to hope that she would once all the primaries were over with.

    s/b I have continued to hope that she would get out once all the primaries were over with.

  • Look at http://www.time-blog.com/swampland/2008/05/hillarys_bizarre_rfk_comment.html and you will see that she mentioned this in March and April. This is hardly due to her “thinking about the Kennedy family” […] — mikeyes, @17

    That link which you have provided has now been updated, due to an excellent commenter (Elvis Elvisberg, whose name, I think, I see posting here sometimes, also) catch. It now includes a little tidbit that, for all intents and purposes, Willie Wanker had become the nominee-presumptive in *March* (when Tsongas dropped out), *not* in June.

    So, what we have is: a) a pattern of using the assassination reminder, contrary to her “got Kennedys on my mind recently” and, b) false context/hiding a tree in a forest. Mentioning her husband’s protracted campaign was supposed to “dilute” the impact of the “June event” she *really* had in mind. Too bad that that proved to be another instance of “misremembering”, like the sniper fire at the Tulza airport…

    I am surprised though, that the two earlier instances had flown under the radar originally and only this one got a widely-publicised “outing”. Better late than never I suppose, but I wonder why that had happened.

  • Hey, crissa, and you lying liar shillary sociopaths (i.e. mary, greg, mark stubby-pencil) […] — Little Beria, @28

    That you can take 4 such entirely disparate people and put them in the same group, shows that your reading comprehension needs some fine-tuning. Each of them “comes” from a different corner of Hillaryland (with Greg, in all likelihood, being a repub, just disenchanted enough with Bu…$h..’s years to want something else). None of them are sociopaths (is that your new word for the day? Impressive, but not applicable here). Crissa is sane, if deluded. Mary (where is she, I wonder) is one of those who “let the fingers do the walking, let the pudendum do the thinking”… it appears that men aren’t the only ones who think with their “lower brains”; Hillary’s run seems to have brought out a rash of women who do that too. And Mark is not only sane but much more literate (not to mention much more intelligent) than you’ll ever be.

    PS. When Patterson actually *switches* to Obama, I’ll take his words more seriously; for the moment, it’s just empty talk, which doesn’t do anyone any good (“fine words butter no parsnips”, as an old saw goes)

  • Has anyone forgotten that Ted Kennedy backed Obama sometime back,in rejection of Hillary? I don’t know if his endorsement of Obama was prior to Hillary’s earlier Kennedy assassination references or not. Does anyone else here have a timeline? I believe Hillary wanted to exit on her own terms-a plausible deniability of an outrageously insensitive(?) remark,where she can say,thats not what I meant,but then allows her to leave,and allows others ask her to go-and I say,don’t let the door hit you in the ass.

  • # 4 ‘Freudian’ implies it was accidental, though.

    The thought wasn’t accidental, the fact that it slipped out, is what is Freudian.

  • yesterday afternoon a very snippy young woman at mccain’s arizona pres campaign office asked me, essentially, what i didn’t understand about the word “never” when i asked when cindy mccain’s tax return would be released.

    well, i guess she was right. despite the excitement, cindy mccain still has not released her tax return or anything close to that. the “two pages” that have been released contain little to analyze, unlike the financial information teresa kerry released in 2004.

  • Keith Olberman takes on Sen. Clinton’s Bobby Kennedy remarks:
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24797758/

    Wow! He, pretty much, covers every sin of the campaign that we have tried to rationalise, ignore and forget over time — a pretty long and comprehensive list (he didn’t catch though, what Elvis Elvisberg — see my posting @36 — did; that she’s lying about the timing re Willie Wanker).

    There’s full text of his comment as well as the video at that site, which I appreciated, since I prefer to read than to listen.

  • Should Keith Oberman hang on until June? I wish he’d drop out. Then we would have one less loud mouth to pollute our minds with pro-Obama crap. Oh, take Chris Matthews with you.

  • Olberman is a self-righteous pr*ck. So smug, so sure of himself. Keith, keep your thoughts to yourself. Stop trying to influence the election!

  • libra, I read better than you – not that I expect a lot out of you though

    mary and greg each posted the same crap – don’t see either around now

    crissa is the latest – just one in this thread and has been tossing the shillary propaganda here

    mark with the little pink rubber on the end of the stick does too

    But go ahead – you can be a lying liar too if you want – there is plenty of room.

  • Ed R. – KO was the only person in the MSM that would talk about the theft of 2004. People were sent to jail for not conducting a recount as directed by law.

    Say what you want – his opinions are highly popular and ring true to many – feel free to disagree, but to call for his “censor” because he doesn’t “catapult the propoganda”…

    Shows you are either:

    (1). Too small minded to realize that you may not be getting the truth from FAUX

    (2). Just another shillary troll (or one of the mclame idiots that wants to earn points for trolling.

    Geeeee….. and what about rush and kkkarl? They are actually creating much of the propaganda that shillary relies on?

    Where is your outrage with him?

  • Time to do more than keyboarding:

    Howard Dean
    Chair
    Dem. Nat’l Committee: 202-863-8000

    Nancy Pelosi
    Speaker of the House: (202) 225-0100

    Harry Reid
    Senate Maj. Leader: (202) 224-3542

    Steny Hoyer
    House Maj. Leader: (202) 225-3130

  • Ed R., Keith’s comment will be entered in the recorded log of this country’s oral history. It was excellent.

    He was able to express proper disgust at a politician who had finally lost her way and gone over the line of decency. His comment aired the outrage that former Senator Clinton supporters experienced as she demonstrated an inability to leave the contest with grace.

    I am ashamed to think that I once believed she would have been a better choice than Biden, Richardson, or Edwards. I even question my great admiration for President Clinton. I clearly was blinded by a party loyalty that the Clintons do not share.

  • Should Keith Oberman hang on until June? I wish he’d drop out. Then we would have one less loud mouth to pollute our minds with pro-Obama crap. — Ed R, @43

    Solid granite minds are impermeable and, therefore, impervious to pollution.

  • geeee, wouldn’t it be great to have a president like shillary have their finger on the button to launch a nooo-klar holocaust?

    oh wait – we already have a childish buffoon that throws temper tantrums because they feel their family lineage entitled them to the White House.

    NO bush-clinton-bush-clinton monarchy – US democracy is not NASCAR

  • libra – I agree that you are a blockhead, but would have to question why you think having rocks in your head is such a great thing.

  • Yes, little bear.

    You lie about Clinton, you lie about me, who won’t you lie about?

    That’s why I don’t want you on my team. Because I don’t think you’ll be here come November.

    Rabid animals don’t tame. So don’t keep them around.

  • On another, probably unrelated note… Has Keith Olbermann ever spared a negative word for Obama’s campaign?

    Not that it wouldn’t be appropriate. Obama is very slick with his words (just like former president Clinton) and sparing with his votes (well, since when he has voted, he’s voted exactly like the current Clinton), so there isn’t much to tell who he is except by his words.

    But is there something wrong with you when Clinton says something, you jump up and down, when someone supposedly related to Clinton you jump up and down, but when someone similarly related to Obama it’s… Well, one doesn’t hear the same crowd in here. It gets mighty quiet.

    Maybe if Obama had taken Clinton’s platform from her instead of being more conservative than her, he’d have cinched the nomination. As it is, he hasn’t, didn’t, and I’m a bit disappointed that you guys are here acting as though 50% was a supermajority. It’s not. It’s the bare minimum.

    It’s the issues. Not that he’s black, she’s white, he’s a man, she’s a woman. It’s issues. He speaks hope – but his actions are DINO, conservative, slick, triangulating. And for some reason, his most vocal fans here never want to argue the issues.

    Guess what? I didn’t vote for Hillary Clinton because she was too conservative. Do you think Obama is making me happy?

  • avi @ #1… “she’d go all 24 on him and get one of her wack-o supporters to “win” her back the presidency.”

    I’m reading all the hatred coming out of you guys, and seeing clearly a whole bunch of Obama wack-o’s. What is it with you Hillary haters? Not forgiven her for standing by Bill?

  • And another thing…

    It’s very noticeable — both here and other blog sites — that the more extreme the commenters, left or right, then the worse the use of English. Lack of capital letters, bad or non-existant punctuation, dialbolical spelling, inability to format a sentence or paragraph correctly — you can see it every day.

    Maybe America would be a better place if the extreme left and the extreme right weren’t so dumb.

  • 34. TuiMel said: I am more inclined to think that she is searching for an impossible historical analogy (1968) to justify her remaining in the race for the nomination this late in the 2008 game.

    Big problem with the recent historical analogies available to Hillary: 1968, 1976 (Ford/Reagan), 1980, 1984 and 1988, all still contested primaries in June, all occasions where the party still having the contest lost the general election. The only remotely applicable situation was Bill Clinton in 1992, and it is disingenuous to claim that he didn’t have the nomination wrapped up before June. No he hadn’t technically reached the magic number but his opponents had no way mathematically of catching up and Bill Clinton was already the nominee by the time California made it official. If she was really following the 1992 example then Hillary would concede and start helping Obama win the general election. What she is doing isn’t unprecedented, but it is completely unprecedented to expect either of them to win in November if this continues.

  • I’m reading all the hatred coming out of you guys, and seeing clearly a whole bunch of Obama wack-o’s. What is it with you Hillary haters? Not forgiven her for standing by Bill? -lenko

    What is it with you Hillary barnacles? Not getting mad at her now for what you’d clearly be mad at another politician for. Imagine Hillary’s behavior if she had a tailing R (a stretch, right?) after her name. Oh, the outrage you’d spew, then.

    Isn’t her invoking the assassination of RFK enough for avi to be upset about? Couple this incident with the rest of her recent behavior and isn’t that enough?

    Most of us ‘Hillary haters’ don’t hate her at all. We feel sorry for her, the same way we felt reading Don Quixiote when he was tilting at windmills. Many of us stood by her and Bill in the past, no matter how they behaved, but she has shown her truest colors and I will do so no longer.

    I can’t swallow the cognitive dissonance that is necessary to support Hillary Clinton and still call myself a Democrat any longer, and I do agree with avi, it makes you a bit ‘wack-o’ for having the ability to do so.

    In addition to TR’s superior spelling ability, I’d like to add that you incessant use of dashes is not proper English, either, so before you start to insult people for being conversational, I’d suggest you check to make sure you’re not “so dumb.” I do, however, thank you for removing all doubt in the Twainian sense.

  • little bear, you should probably be careful calling everyone a liar.

    last time you did that it didn’t work out so well. the only one who couldn’t back up what they were writing was, um, you.

    last i looked crickets were still chirping on the thread where i dared you to document a single lie i had printed.

    repeating untruths in the hopes they will stick anyone is so. . . Rovian of you.
    Is that how your hero Obama will govern as well?

  • Myanmar’s ruling junta said Friday it will let foreign aid workers and commercial ships help survivors in the cyclone-ravaged Irrawaddy Delta, but refused to relent on accepting aid from U.S., French and British military ships.” If I remember correctly – We refuse Cuba’s help during the Katrina thing, but allowed Mexican military trucks to rumble in my neck of the woods.

  • This sounds encouraging: “After years of struggling to catch up to the Republican Party’s sophisticated microtargeting efforts, the Democratic National Committee appears to have come close to parity. The DNC has now reorganized its data banks into one centralized file that goes a long way toward neutralizing the GOP’s advantage in drilling down and identifying crucial constituencies of voters.”

    CB,
    This is the most amazing news ever.
    Parity???
    The GOP is SO boned.

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