Giuliani flubs another lesson

Sorry for all the Giuliani-related posts today, but the former mayor is popping off quite a bit and making overwhelmingly clear just how ignorant he is. The poor guy is just out of his league running for president right now, and the more he opens his mouth, the more it become clear that Giuliani should go away for a while, read a book or two, and come back when he has a clue.

The latest embarrassment is Giuliani’s poor memory when it comes to understanding the October 2000 attack on the USS Cole.

Last night on Fox News, former mayor Rudy Giuliani repeated the myth that President Clinton failed to respond adequately to the bombing of the U.S.S. Cole, claiming that Clinton’s response to terrorist attack was during his administration was “let things go.”

During an interview with Fox’s Sean Hannity to promote his new “12 Commitments” to America, Giuliani said that Americans are being lured by the “very appealing” idea that the U.S. should “kind of act the way Clinton did in the ’90s.” Giuliani described this mentality as “don’t react, let things go,” and charged, “You know, we get attacked on the Cole. We don’t do anything about it.”

There comes a point at which a candidate screws up basic facts so often, and so badly, they should necessarily be disqualified in the voters’ minds from holding national office. Giuliani has reached such a point. He thinks the next president won’t influence the future of Iraq, he’s confused about the Fort Dix plot, he doesn’t know the difference between Iran’s and North Korea’s nuclear programs, and he has no idea whether Iran and al Qaeda are Sunni or Shia. Asked recently for his thoughts on the efficacy of the president’s escalation strategy in Iraq, Giuliani said, “I don’t know the answer to that.”

As National Review’s Rich Lowry recently noted, when Giuliani responds to voters’ questions, “his answers on foreign policy and military affairs aren’t deeply informed.”

And now Giuliani doesn’t know what happened with the USS Cole? Does he know anything about his signature campaign issue?

In case there’s any lingering confusion….

In fact, President Clinton was eager — at the recommendation of his counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke — to retaliate against al Qaeda for the U.S.S. Cole. But that attack took place in October 2000. As Clinton explained in a 2006 interview, both the CIA and FBI “refused to certify that it was Bin Laden was responsible” for the attack on the Cole until early 2001 which foreclosed on the possibility of a full response during the Clinton administration.

In fact, I’d go a step further. As Bush was taking office, and Clinton learned that it was al Qaeda who executed the attack, Clinton urged his successor to pursue the issue. Bush didn’t.

To borrow Giuliani’s phrase, Bush “let things go.”

Indeed, the former mayor may not realize it — alas, he doesn’t realize a lot of things — but by condemning the U.S. response to the Cole bombing, Giuliani was actually condemning Bush, not Clinton.

Don’t go away mad, Rudy; just go away.

Guiliani’s biggest flub was not the Clinton attack. He actually said that the war in Iraq is “in the hands of other people”. That should be our headline… that Rudy would let our troops be commanded by “other people”… and we could also add that the American Presidency should also be “in the hands of other people”…

  • At a certain point, a candidate screws up basic facts so often, and so badly, they should be necessarily disqualified in the voters’ minds from holding national office.

    If only that were true, we’d be rid of most of the Republicans… a long time ago. I wish the wingnuts would get a clue, but they never will. They believe what they want to believe, and they will vote for the next flimflam artist even though the guy has no clue whatsoever what really happened.

    If the media ever starts caring whether things the candidates say is even remotely true, we might see a change. But so far… not so much.

  • I hate to tell you, because I know most others here really loathe him whereas I just think he’s sad at this point… but if you want a Republican with something even approaching a clue on foreign policy, you’re pretty much stuck with McCain. And while he might know the facts, he’s as eager for more war as any of them.

    Though I do have confidence he’d manage a war better than any of the others, I’d prefer not to see him get the chance.

  • They are perfect examples of Pavlovian response. When in doubt or otherwise incapable of creating an articulate message…..****Clinton!!!!****

    It doesn’t matter if the talking point is nonsensical, damages the Bush Administration as well or otherwise fails the smell test. It’s the fig leaf they hang on their dangling bits to stave off embarrassment at how nekkid their positions are.

  • Sounds to me like he’s singing the base’s song – Blame Clinton!

    To some extent, I feel for any candidate who has to have an answer for Iraq – because there are no simple, nice answers. But ‘In the hands of other people’ is pathetic for a guy who claims to be a leader. At least Bush pretends to have a plan.

  • The Dems, in particular Hillary, need to get President Clinton to make an immediate rebuttal to this, and possibly get Clarke to also speak up.

  • Since when did not knowing anything hurt a Republican candidate? Knowing things hasn’t been a requirement since Nixon, and look how that ended. Reagan got elected – twice – believing that trees pollute. Knowing things isn’t a hindrance in the GOP, it’s a godsend. Look at Bush….

    Never mind. We don’t have to go through all that again.

  • I like to research all things Giuliani because when I’m in a bad mood or just bored, reading something about his campaign cheers me up. The Republican race is so much more interesting than the Democratic race right now, but thankfully, only in the same way that a car wreck is.

    Now on one of my recent searches, I found a Media Matters page that described a Dick Morris interview on “Hannity & Colmes.” Morris seems to be trying to outdo himself this year with some truly insane statements. As the link below shows, Morris says, in response to the issues raised by first responders, ” ‘As far as the first responders, look, everybody knows that this guy’s role in 9-11 was spectacular. And what he needs to do is to embrace that.'” I’m not sure what is more insane: pretending the people on the ground that day are wrong and everybody else is right, or acting as if Giuliani has yet to truly run on the image he’s trying to cultivate related to 9/11.

    Not that this is directly related, but I felt it was a good spot to bring it up.

    http://mediamatters.org/items/200705150011

  • I am reminded of the Buzzcocks “Mad, Mad Judy”! I think we might use it as the theme song for Rudy posts.

    Speaking of Giuliani needing to read some books, Ron Paul made a long, accurate and detailed reference to Randolph Bourne’s “The State” http://www.bopsecrets.org/CF/bourne.htm last night. This pamphlet which was incomplete at Bourne’s death in the 1918 flu epedemic is eerily relevant today. “War is the health of the State.”

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