Giuliani’s collapse — The right way to ring in the New Year

I suspect Josh Marshall speaks for many (including me) when he notes that now is an “appropriate moment to give thanks for something we can all be thankful for, even across our political divisions and support for contending candidates — that’s right, the collapsing campaign of Rudy Giuliani.”

In Iowa, where admittedly Rudy hasn’t made much of a run at it, he now appears on track to come in last place among the major candidates. And, to be clear, I’m here defining ‘major’ rather generously as including Ron Paul. In other words, sixth place.

In New Hampshire, Rudy is similarly dropping like a stone. He may still come in third ahead of Mike Huckabee, though they now seem to be roughly tied there.

Nationally, Rudy appears either tied with Huckabee or in a three or four way tie with Huckabee, Romney and McCain, depending on which of the very most recent polls you look at. And expect that number (to borrow the Army aphorism) not to survive first contact with his drubbing in Iowa and New Hampshire…. Even in his ‘firewall’ states like Florida, Rudy’s lead is rapidly diminishing.

This comes on the heels of polling evidence that the more Republicans voters see Giuliani, the less they like him.

I realize the Giuliani campaign claims to have a plan — premised almost exclusively on big victories in Florida in Feb. 5 states — but I just don’t see it. The thing about losing repeatedly is that one starts to look like a loser. That’s particularly true if an assumed frontrunner can’t actually win when people start voting — exacerbated if he finishes behind Ron Paul.

Apparently, the former mayor’s campaign doesn’t exactly see the stars aligning they way they’d hoped, so they’re moving on to Plan B: more war talk (via Greg Sargent).

Mayor Giuliani will announce a new four-point war strategy in New Hampshire today, an effort to refocus a primary campaign season for Republicans that has centered in recent weeks less on foreign affairs and more on immigration and domestic issues.

Specifically, Mr. Giuliani will call for a new military surge in Afghanistan, a change in the way America’s spies are promoted so that officers are rewarded for finding actionable intelligence and not just the number of agents they recruit, and a new war on Al Qaeda’s intricate network of Web sites, sites used both to communicate with its agents in the field and to recruit new jihadis.

Campaign officials reportedly declined to explain where the new troops for the Afghanistan surge would come from.

Josh concluded:

Whatever else you can say about Rudy, had he not tried to exploit 9/11 to build a third career as a presidential candidate, I have little doubt that the halo of 9/11 would have hovered over his head for the rest of his life and provided him a lifetime of fat residuals in the form of consulting work for Giuliani Partners. But what about now? What does Rudy now have to offer Gulf sheiks or Chinese princelings that they can’t get from a real consultancy? And if you’re a pharmaceutical company in trouble for pushing narcotics, is Rudy your guy?

Mr. Mayor, if you’re reading, I have three words for you: Vegas lounge act. Think about it.

So said that Rudy is finally talking some sense about the War on al Qaeda only now that his campaign is tanking.

We hope.

Still, an article to bring a smile to my face. Thanks CB.

  • i happen to have been in florida over the holidays where my parents are snowbirds, and we were talking about the collapse of rudy’s chances and his desperate attempt/need to win florida. my father said that his campaign is counting on all the former new yorkers in florida, and i was reminded of when bruce mccall bought the la kings and brought in wayne gretzky on the expectation that there were two million former canadians in the greater LA area. when the kings weren’t a popular success, mccall commented “how did i know that they were the 2 million canadians who hate hockey?”

  • If in fact Rudee tanks the world can heave a huge sigh of relief. That will be a bullet successfully dodged. The man needs well-earned obscurity, and the sooner the better.

    The Rethugs really don’t have anyone – especially after Huckabee showed his nasty side (“no executions”), but not very arguably, Guiliani smells the worst in their rotten manure pile. By the time his second term was ending – pre-9/11) New York City had had its fill of him, and couldn’t wait for him to leave. As with Bush, it took a long time for people to wise up. Ex-pat New Yorkers in Florida, including all the Jewish grandmothers with shopping bags and galoshes, aren’t necessarily his biggest fans, but anything can happen in Florida. The Rethug establishment doesn’t like Huck. Romney may tank badly, and McCain may shoot himself in the foot. Who’s left? Rudee.

  • Thanks to Bush and Cheney, there is a lot of power that comes with being the commander-in-chief in a time of war, and I certainly see Rudy as someone who would love to take advantage of that. Since the early days of Bush’s first term, when the staff attorneys at the Office of Legal Counsel were told to look for and take every opportunity to extend presidential power, on through 9/11, when John Yoo wrote memo after memo at the OLC providing legal justification for everything Bush and Cheney wanted to do, the primary rationale for Bush being able to act on his own, without Congressional or legal oversight, is that he is the commander-in-chief in a time of war.

    If you think Rudy doesn’t know that, you are sadly mistaken. He is trying to play to the nation’s fears, but he’s also looking at what has been a gravy train of power for Bush – and given that there has been virtually nothing done to rein in that power, it would all be there waiting for him.

    Of course, that power and precedent is going to be there for whoever the next president is, but I would be more comfortable with a president who would attempt to return the executive branch to accountability than I would with one who is likely to take it to an even greater extreme.

    He can’t collapse fast enough for me.

  • Breaking news……..idiotic imp implodes in Iowa……….details at 11…………

    I know it sounds mean, but right now, I am SO-OOO LAUGHING MY BUTT OFF.

    Vegas lounge act, CB? I’d have steered him towards Vaudeville—it’s about the only thing left on the planet that’s got more cobwebs than his “ethics….”

  • Never mind Vegas, the man belongs behind bars. But leave to Legend in His Own Mind to tout more war just when people are sick of war.

    I also got a big old case of the creeps when I read of his desire to promote intelligence agents based on the “actionable information” they gather. Why do I get the feeling the data collection methods wouldn’t face scruitiny.

  • Yes, let’s promote people on “actionable information”. I assume this means information they like, not all that other non-sense that the pro-war craves.

    In other words fire anyone that comes up with this silly ‘Iran gave up their silly nuke ambitions’ and promote ‘Iran has nukes’ personnel. Fantastic idea, only a genius like Rudy could come up with such a grand plan.

    How could this guy be slipping in the poles, it’s a fricken mystery.

  • Arabia has the most oil, but they don’t have the most potent military. And whether or not they choose to adopt democracy, we have. And democracies are structured to reflect and respond to the will of the people; And time-and-again they have. Witness for example today, where the Giuliani presidential campaign has a significant constituency that is based almost solely on the fear of Muslim extremism…It would be a welcomed relief if the Kingdom of Saudia Arabia (and China) would example leadership by joining-the-club of democratic nations, and help bring peace to many regions of the World.

  • Part of me was hoping Nosferatu would win the nomination. If not for anything else, then the ads: 9/11 24/7! Hell, he’d probably turn 9/11 into a national holiday where everyone went shopping (think: Memorial Day)! I mean, just imagine all those savings!

    In all honesty, I’m hoping McCain gets the nomination because he’s the most serious candidate of the GOP. I don’t want a blowout where we waltz in with our remarkable candidate (at this point, likely Obama) and their fool. If we go up against a Huckabee they can just dismiss it as nothing, but if we beat the best they have it’ll demoralize them even more. Oh, and I want to see McCain have a heart attack on live TV.

  • You all are forgetting one thing: Rudy hasn’t cut loose his secret weapon to work the crowds, yet–Miss Judith Nathan. When that happens, expect a huge explosion in the polls!

  • Part of me was hoping Nosferatu would win the nomination. If not for anything else, then the ads: 9/11 24/7! — Peters, @9

    Um… 9+11+24+7 =51. Still one short of the full deck and that’s not counting jokers.

  • as footnote fred and the other losers pass off the stage , one by one , I say ” pass the popcorn , I’ve waited years for this show “

  • If we go up against a Huckabee they can just dismiss it as nothing, but if we beat the best they have it’ll demoralize them even more.

    But crushing cHuckabee would teach the So/Theo-Cons a sharp lesson in the importance of humility and teach the other Cons to be careful about choosing their minions. Maybe the TalEvan would take a total defeat of Rev. Gov. Huck as a sign that America is ground zero for the Apocalypse and bugger off to some place the citizens take God seriously and don’t tolerate dissent.

    Like Saudi Arabia.

  • libra said: “Um… 9+11+24+7 =51. Still one short of the full deck and that’s not counting jokers.”

    Now you’re just being unfair. 9/11/01 24/7 is 9+11+1+24+7 = 52

    See, there’s a full deck.

  • TAIO wrote: “But crushing cHuckabee would teach the So/Theo-Cons a sharp lesson in the importance of humility and teach the other Cons to be careful about choosing their minions.”

    I think the conservative pundits like the Prince of Darkness and Dr. Will already know they can’t let Huckabee have the nomination.

    I do occasionally read the dark side.

  • No sigh of relief until the stake is permanently through the chest, people.
    And please, no tears for this scumbag as he is well positioned as a WingNut welfare recipient from the MSM & speaking engagements.
    He will do 10 times better than Josh, Steve & most of us combined.

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