Glenn Reynolds’ assassination policy

Intentionally or not, Instapundit’s Glenn Reynolds seems to have written one of those posts that has everyone buzzing. Responding to reports that Iran is providing weapons used to attack Americans in Iraq, Reynolds argued:

This has been obvious for a long time anyway, and I don’t understand why the Bush Administration has been so slow to respond. Nor do I think that high-profile diplomacy, or an invasion, is an appropriate response.

We should be responding quietly, killing radical mullahs and iranian atomic scientists, supporting the simmering insurgencies within Iran, putting the mullahs’ expat business interests out of business, etc. Basically, stepping on the Iranians’ toes hard enough to make them reconsider their not-so-covert war against us in Iraq. And we should have been doing this since the summer 2003. But as far as I can tell, we’ve done nothing along these lines….

[T]o be clear, I think it’s perfectly fine to kill people who are working on atomic bombs for countries — like Iran — that have already said that they want to use those bombs against America and its allies, and I think that those who feel otherwise are idiots, and in absolutely no position to strike moral poses. We may wind up doing so via airstrikes, but it would be better to do it in a more selective manner.

I’m loath to put words on his page, but Reynolds apparently believes American assassins should infiltrate Iran to kill unnamed Iranian religious leaders and civilian scientists. I’ll assume Reynolds would prefer to wait for some kind of evidence to point to actual wrongdoing before we start sending hit men into Tehran, but it’s a little unclear.

What’s more, Reynolds’ position has been widely embraced by several other high-profile conservative bloggers. John Hawkins, for example, is convinced that Iran “is a threat to the United States” because it is “targeting our soldiers in Iraq,” which makes critics of Reynolds idea “silly.” Hawkins explained, “Certainly our prohibition on assassinations isn’t going to stop any of our enemies from trying to assassinate Americans if they can get away with it. Only the fear of getting caught and of our retaliation will do that.”

So much for the moral high-ground.

From where I sit, there are two ways of looking at this.

First, as Glenn Greenwald noted, is the legal perspective.

Consistent with American tradition, international treaties, with virtual unanimity, deplore extra-judicial assassinations as the tools of savages and barbarians.

And what is most striking is that these anti-assassination prohibitions apply (a) to wartime and (b) even to foreign leaders of nations who are at war. But here, Reynolds is actually advocating that we murder scientists and religious figures who are “radical,” whatever that might happen to mean in the unchecked mind of George Bush.

If we are to be a country that now sends death squads into nations with whom we are not at war to slaughter civilians — scientists and religious figures — what don’t we do?

Second, and just as importantly, Kevin Drum explains perfectly what Reynolds is, in practice, advocating.

I imagine a lot of people agree with Glenn, but his recommendation really demonstrates the moral knot caused by George Bush’s insistence that we’re fighting a “war on terror.” After all, killing civilian scientists and civilian leaders, even if you do it quietly, is unquestionably terrorism. That’s certainly what we’d consider it if Hezbollah fighters tried to kill cabinet undersecretaries and planted bombs at the homes of Los Alamos engineers. What’s more, if we took this tack against Iran, we’d be doing it for the same reason that terrorists target us: because it’s a more effective, more winnable tactic than conventional war.

If you think Iran is a mortal enemy that needs to be dealt with via military force, you can certainly make that case. But if you’re going to claim that terrorism is a barbaric tactic that has to be stamped out, you can hardly endorse its use by the United States just because it’s convenient in this particular case.

Case closed.

IOKIYAOI

It’s OK if You’re American.

Or Israeli.

  • I love the part about supporting the simmering insurgencies in Iran. If anyone heard the NPR report this morning about the bombing in Iran carried out by Sunni insurgents, it’s interesting to note that we’re supporting the Shias against the Sunnis in Iraq and, I guess, should supporting the Sunnis against the Shias in Iran. That works out nicely, doesn’t it?

  • “Yes Doctor, I agree, the worst case of Jack Bauer overdose I’ve ever seen.” Gee Glenn (Reynolds, not Greenwald) your wet dream of “24”-ing Iran sounds great. Why don’t we just send in Tom Cruise and Keifer Sutherland to do the job of fulfilling your wet dream. They might just get in a little torturing on the way to pulling off the perfect hit for that extra payoff. Or maybe you yourself would volunteer for the job? I can’t wait ’till the movie comes out.

    So, we knock off a few of their guys and then they’ll be so terrified of us they will put into power some docile, America-loving wimp who we’ll be able to have our way with, right? That’s kinda the inferred second half of the equation, isn’t it? I think is where the law of unintended consequences comes into play. An assassination would be a great catalyst for unifying the Islamic world against us (as if they’re not already) and radicalizing anyone not already on the fringe. Think of shooting their mullahs as putting a hit on the pope. Every Catholic would then get all Bill Donohue on your ass. Not a good idea. In the least.

  • The 15th century Court of Venice thought nothing of publicly posting a long list of needed assassinations (anywhere in the world) and the price the government was willing to pay for each. Practical businessmen, those Venetians; see a need and put a price on it. The practice played a role, ableit a negative one, in promoting the growth of diplomacy.

  • Well, at least he’s being selective. People of this mindset usually say “kill them all & let God (or Allah) sort them out later.”
    And to be fair, it’s hard to reason while you are wearing wet pants. These cowards are pissing themselves constantly because they are so scared.
    Maybe if they stopped watching “24” for a while they could calm down a bit.

  • Think of shooting their mullahs as putting a hit on the pope. Every Catholic would then get all Bill Donohue on your ass. Not a good idea. In the least. -petorado

    Except, if I’m not mistaken, mullahs are not part of the organized structure of Islam, but are more akin to spiritual guides or counselors.

    This seems to be more like calling for the deaths of pastors and ministers, which, to me, is more sinister than targeting a leader, such as the Pope.

  • Now that the right has issued its “fatwah”, is there any doubt that they are becoming more like those they claim to despise?

  • Glenn the warmonger is really, really certain yet again. And he wants us to remember that “idiots, [are in] in absolutely no position to strike moral poses”.

    O…K.

    But here he goes into full assertion mode, and reveals how stupid he really is:

    …I think it’s perfectly fine to kill people who are working on atomic bombs for countries — like Iran — that have already said that they want to use those bombs against America and its allies, and I think that those who feel otherwise are idiots, and in absolutely no position to strike moral poses…

    Has Iran ever said they want to use nuclear bombs on us? Or any of our allies? And notice how Israel is once again being talked about but not named, because then the true motives for the war with Iran become even clearer.

    It should once again be noted that the famous Ahmadinejad “quote” about “wiping Israel off the map” is just as bogus as all the other neocon bullshit. It’s like Paris Hilton threatening to kill Mike Tyson…

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2007/260107offthemap.htm

  • It seems like a race:

    In Track One we have the speedy rabbit of Islamofascist global takeover
    In Track Two we have the turtle of Global Warming
    A dark horse on the outside is God and the worldwide destruciton he’s known for.

    Who’s going to win, place or show.

  • I really need to think of this guy as “Reynolds Wrap;” he’s just so tinfoil-hattish that it’s almost comical. Suppose the US does send in some death-squads which, by the way, would constitute an act of aggressive war AND a clear violation of the Geneva Conventions. The immediate downside is that every US naval vessel in the PG becomes Silkworm-fodder—and the Green Zone is completely within the range of Iranian surface-to-surface missiles.

    The eventual upside is that Reynolds and his entire gang of thugs find themselves on the “receiving end” of war-crimes trials—right in there with their “Dear Leader….”

  • Came to talk about the draft.

    They got a building down New York City, it’s called Whitehall Street,
    where you walk in, you get injected, inspected, detected, infected,
    neglected and selected. I went down to get my physical examination one
    day, and I walked in, I sat down, got good and drunk the night before, so
    I looked and felt my best when I went in that morning. `Cause I wanted to
    look like the all-American kid from New York City, man I wanted, I wanted
    to feel like the all-, I wanted to be the all American kid from New York,
    and I walked in, sat down, I was hung down, brung down, hung up, and all
    kinds o’ mean nasty ugly things. And I waked in and sat down and they gave
    me a piece of paper, said, “Kid, see the phsychiatrist, room 604.”

    And I went up there, I said, “Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I
    wanna kill. Kill. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and
    guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean kill, Kill,
    KILL, KILL.” And I started jumpin up and down yelling, “KILL, KILL,” and
    he started jumpin up and down with me and we was both jumping up and down
    yelling, “KILL, KILL.” And the sargent came over, pinned a medal on me,
    sent me down the hall, said, “You’re our boy.”

    Didn’t feel too good about it.

  • You missed a third compelling point, raised by Matthew Yglesias:

    [W]e once again see conservatives (or in Reynolds’ case “libertarians”) displaying an almost childlike faith in the competence, honesty, and efficacy of the federal bureacracy insofar as that bureacracy is tasked with dishing out lethal force that they would never in a million years ascribe to, say, the people in charge of the Endangered Species Act.

    Yup — what he said.

  • I may have missed it, but I failed to see any statement in which mr Reynolds offered to volunteer himself as one of the assassins and therefore be willing to put himself in the position of putting his ass in danger plus becoming a couragous blood thirsty killer.

  • I’d love to see Instaputz with a .45 hole between his eyes.

    How this guy ever became a law professor is even more amazing than that that Jewish nazi Alan Dershowitz did.

  • From the stratfor.com weekly newsletter:

    ….beginning in 1980, Israel developed a program of
    assassinating and threatening scientists who were associated with
    Iraq’s nuclear weapons program. This was followed by the bombing of
    Iraq’s Osirak reactor in June 1981. As recently as the 1990
    assassination of Canadian scientist and “supergun” creator Gerald
    Bull, Israel’s clandestine hand appears to have been working to
    thwart Iraqi weapons programs.

    There is reason to believe that Israel — whose reputation for
    conventional military strength was dealt a considerable blow during
    last summer’s conflict with Hezbollah — now might be dusting off
    the strategy it successfully employed against Iraq. Specifically,
    Iranian news sources on Jan. 25 reported the death (a week
    previously) of Ardeshir Hassanpour , a high-level scientist who is
    believed to have played a key role in Iran’s nuclear program. His
    death has not been officially explained, but Stratfor sources have
    indicated that Hassanpour was a target of Mossad. If he was indeed
    assassinated by agents of Israel, it would mean the Jewish state
    has raised the stakes in the covert war — and reprisals could be
    coming down the pike.

    This is probably what got Instaputz pumping so hard with his left hand while typing with his right.

  • Hey, if some hero wants to over here deliver us from evil by putting one through the “brains” of creatures like Dobson, Perkins, Falwell and other members of the species homo christofasciticus I’d pay for the fucking airplane ticket.

    But of course Renny would whine that it isn’t fair, ‘cos only Americans know how to wield the almight rod of Democracy.

  • Everyone against assassinating iranian nuclear terror leaders should take a pledge:

    “I will not complain when a dirty nuke goes off in my neighborhood.”

    Oh wait, you will be dead!

    Maybe we can put this on your tombstones:

    “Here lies another moral-equivocating Peace Moron, he gave his life (and thousands of others) when he prevented America from acting pro-actively to save his useless, sorry leftwing rear-end. RIP & good riddance!”

  • What this article does here is misidentify terrorism, in order to strike a moral equivalent.

    Terrorism is the intentional, strategic, targeting of innocent civilians in order to strike “terror” into the population.

    This is not the same as targeted assassinations of those who form, urge or implement that terror. Indeed, this is the most efficient, decent and responsible way to eliminate the problem while minimizing “collateral damage”.

  • “I will not complain when a dirty nuke goes off in my neighborhood.”

    Oh wait, you will be dead!

    Actually, you probably won’t be dead. The point of a dirty nuke is to make things unpleasant and difficult to clean. The power comes from the terror and the fear, not the weapon itself.

    You should ask yourself…why am I trying to scare people while claiming to fight terror?

    Peace is the only way to fight terror, and if I have to die for it, so be it. If you weren’t such a scared little child lashing out at the monsters in your mind, you could see this as the only rational way to go.

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