Going on the offensive

Not to belabor the point, but yesterday’s discussion(s) throughout the political world about Rudy Giuliani’s latest attack on Dems not only captured everyone’s attention, but also led to a gut-check moment for Dems — Republicans are coming at us with the same talking points they’ve used for years. Are Dems ready? Do they have a compelling response?

Yesterday, Kevin Drum reminded Dems not to “whine,” while Josh Marshall stressed the importance of not telegraphing weakness. Sure, Republicans are questioning Dems’ patriotism, and anxious to scare the public into thinking the GOP can save their lives, but calling them on it is inherently a defensive move.

Playing offense looks something like this:

Democrats should just hit right back on how President Bush has been helping Osama bin Laden for almost six years. Sounds harsh. But it’s true. Consider the facts. President Bush had bin Laden trapped in the mountains of Tora Bora. But he let bin Laden get away because Bush wanted to focus on Saddam Hussein instead. The president and the White House tried to lie about this during the 2004 election. But since then the evidence has become overwhelming. President Bush decided to let bin Laden get away so he could get ready to attack Saddam Hussein. So pretty much anything bin Laden does from here on out is on President Bush. And how about Iraq? President Bush has screwed things up so badly that he’s created a whole new generation of recruits for bin Laden. He’s created a whole new army for bin Laden. Not by being tough but by being stupid. And by being too much of a coward to admit his mistakes once it was obvious that the occupation of Iraq was helping bin Laden specifically and the jihadist agenda in general.

After half a decade, the verdict is pretty clear: President Bush has been the biggest ally Osama bin Laden has. He’s helped bin Laden at pretty much every turn — even if only by his own stupidity, incompetence and cowardice. And when the next big terrorist attack comes, we can thank President Bush for helping make it happen.

I suspect most conservatives and Bush supporters are aware of this reality, which is one of the reasons they get so hysterical about calling Dems weak — if they bang the table loud enough, people might forget they’re projecting their faults onto their rivals.

Paul Krugman explained this quite well way back in July 2004, imagining what a president would look like if fundamentalist terrorists chose “as their puppet president a demagogue who poses as the nation’s defender against terrorist evildoers.” And sure enough, the character looked quite a bit like Bush.

After an attack, he would strike back at the terrorist base, a necessary action to preserve his image of toughness, but botch the follow-up, allowing the terrorist leaders to escape. Once the public’s attention shifted, he would systematically squander the military victory: committing too few soldiers, reneging on promises of economic aid. Soon, warlords would once again rule most of the country, the heroin trade would be booming, and terrorist allies would make a comeback.

Meanwhile, he would lead America into a war against a country that posed no imminent threat. He would insinuate, without saying anything literally false, that it was somehow responsible for the terrorist attack. This unnecessary war would alienate our allies and tie down a large part of our military. At the same time, the Arabian candidate would neglect the pursuit of those who attacked us, and do nothing about regimes that really shelter anti-American terrorists and really are building nuclear weapons.

Again, he would take care to squander a military victory. The Arabian candidate and his co-conspirators would block all planning for the war’s aftermath; they would arrange for our army to allow looters to destroy much of the country’s infrastructure. Then they would disband the defeated regime’s army, turning hundreds of thousands of trained soldiers into disgruntled potential insurgents.

After this it would be easy to sabotage the occupied country’s reconstruction, simply by failing to spend aid funds or rein in cronyism and corruption. Power outages, overflowing sewage and unemployment would swell the ranks of our enemies.

Who knows? The Arabian candidate might even be able to deprive America of the moral high ground, no mean trick when our enemies are mass murderers, by creating a climate in which U.S. guards torture, humiliate and starve prisoners, most of them innocent or guilty of only petty crimes.

At home, the Arabian candidate would leave the nation vulnerable, doing almost nothing to secure ports, chemical plants and other potential targets. He would stonewall investigations into why the initial terrorist attack succeeded. And by repeatedly issuing vague terror warnings obviously timed to drown out unfavorable political news, his officials would ensure public indifference if and when a real threat is announced.

Last but not least, by blatantly exploiting the terrorist threat for personal political gain, he would undermine the nation’s unity in the face of its enemies, sowing suspicion about the government’s motives.

In the context of 2008, of course, Bush isn’t running — but Republicans who support his efforts are. Giuliani, McCain, and Romney are quite proud of telling voters that when it comes to counter-terrorism and foreign policy, they’re anxious to pick up where Bush leaves off. They’ll keep America “safe” and “strong” by following the very policies that have undermined our security and weakened the country overall.

It’s really quite simple: Republican foreign policy has it backwards. It’s making us less secure and increasing the danger for us and our allies.

Way back in September, the National Intelligence Estimate made quite clear that the war in Iraq has increased the threat of terrorism. Glenn Greenwald argued that Dems could simply take the straight newspaper account of the NIE and “air it over and over and over every single day as much as possible until November 7.” Digby noted how effective this would be: “Bush’s Iraq adventure has put this country in much more danger than it was and for no good reason. If people believe terrorism is a serious threat, then these Republicans are the last people they should trust.”

All of this still applies. The next time Giuliani pops off, Dems might want to keep it in mind.

The next time Giuliani pops off, Dems might want to keep it in mind.

Is there rule that says nobody can continue to rebut Giuliani’s last pop-off? Seems like that’s part of the problem: Republicans turn Democratic gaffes into albatrosses, whereas Dems issue formal responses to Republicans and leave it at that.

From now on, Giuliani is the Fear Candidate. Dems can contrast themselves with his most ridiculous statements at every opportunity.

  • Amen, Steve. And Grumpy. I hope the blogosphere can help get Dems out of their Broderist beltway fog, where they are so afraid of looking weak on defense they just look…afraid.

  • I think Bush and the neocons needed the bogeyman on the loose. He was useful to their ultimate goal of invading Iraq. With OBL captured, it would have been much more harder for them to gin up support for such an invasion. With OBL on the loose, they were able to keep the “terror alert” at it highest level.

  • That the Democrats allow Republicans to continually get away with impuning their courage and patriotrism is beyond me. I thought even the responses yesterday were weak.

    Look, maybe this is too out there, but isn’t it about time the Democrats start reminding America which party was in the White House on 9/11? The Republicans and even some Democrats seem to act as though Clinton or Gore were president then, not Bush.

    And it’s also time that the Democrats note every time some Republican brings this stuff up that bin Laden is still out there free. I can’t guarantee that 9/11 wouldn’t have happened under a Gore presidency (though I don’t think it would have), but I do believe a Gore administration would have captured or killed bin Laden by now. And there sure as hell wouldn’t be any Iraq War.

  • GOP: Acronym for the “George-n-Osama Party.”

    And Giuliani is sorrowfully comical; the other half to a pair of bookends to which RampStrike McCaca (the Nikita Khrushchev of Amerika) is but the first half….

  • Also, what there was of AQ in Iraq prior to the invasion could have easily been taken out by airstrikes, but that might have prempted the invasion.

  • And it should also be pointed out that from 2005 to the present, when many of the Bush policies have failed spectacularly, in order to achieve some modicum of success the Bush folks have adopted the positions expressed by one Senator John Kerry during his 2004 election campaign.

  • When JMM says, “President Bush has been the biggest ally Osama bin Laden has,” there’s something else he could mention. Namely, reports that the US is supporting al Qaeda affiliates acting against Iran. Enemy of my enemy, and so forth.

    If true, Bush is literally allied with bin Laden. (We’d have to check AQ’s stockholder reports to see if Bush is the biggest.)

  • So in summary, when Republicans say “tough,” what they really mean is “stupid.”

    I like it.

  • I know I’m out on a limb on this dastardly issue. I apologize if it upsets anyone. I could withdraw from the debate and chew on my views in silence. I don’t have that strength, but I’m sure that tougher souls than me can easily ignore or rebuff my opinion comfortably in their stride. On that basis I’ll contribute what I can as best I can.

    The first point has to do with the concept of “weakness”. I believe it is false to equate weakness with forbearance. Forbearance involves restraint, honesty and a search for truth and clarity. Without a clear understanding effective policy and strategy is impossible. Without sound strategy mistakes are inevitable. The Iraq debacle is an object lesson on the failure of false premises and self-delusion. Strength is to look honestly and exhaustively deep into the underlying realities of whatever situation one is confronted with and has to deal with. Anything less is a recipe for error. To me, that is self-evident.

    “Strength” is definitively not rushing in where angels fear to tread. Strength is not being gung-ho, brandishing your power and throwing your weapons around recklessly because you’re too wild and primitive to know any better. Strength is pausing, taking time to measure and assess, then, and only then, applying the most effective response with every aspect of the situation examined, understood and taken into consideration. Stepping back from the Bush gang’s behavior, it is hard to recognize any of these marks of strength in their responses to 9/11.

    Now, four years on from the invasion of Iraq and six years on from 9/11, with a surfeit of evidence of the failure of the Bush strategy, if you could call it that, the time is well overdue for a radical revision of the whole ethos that took America and the world into such unholy chaos. This is why, for me, the Democratic campaign should be well beyond mere reaction to the out-of-date, failed, moribund policies Republican candidates persist in trotting out. Cut the crap. Why even bother to demean ourselves by crediting their rubbish as worthy of a response. These guys — Giuliani, McCain, Romney — are deadbeats. They’re last century’s relics. Forget them. The majority of the American people have moved beyond their old, failed rhetoric. Every poll that CB reports proves and supports that truth.

    To reach and identify the currently pervasive mood in American citizenry one has to credit them with a modicum of basic human decency. However appalled and frightened they may have been by the unprecedented assault on the integrity of American territory that 9/11 represented, they, if not their fossilized political leaders, have moved on. They are abhorred and embarrassed by the carnage and destruction being endlessly perpetrated in their name. We’re talking about the majority here, not the crazed wingnuts. Please, Democratic hopefuls, please respect, extol, encourage and build upon that tender and precious decency which ordinary, honest-to-goodness Americans are feeling and expressing.

  • I may have missed this,but has anyone pointed out to Guiliani that the Republicans were in charge on September 11, and the Administration ignored all of the red flags?

  • Take a gander at the Comments section on the bottom of Broder’s article – if you can. (Some servers don’t show them). Anyway, I picked four pages at random of the 20-odd pages of comments. 99% of them roundly criticized Broder, insulting both his manhood and his mental competency. Great to see.

    And, I don’t mind the WAPO printing this stuff. It’s just a target for the “correct-thinking” (us) crowd. Plus, they’re still printing Fromkin’s blog, which is certainly the anti-Broder, anti-Bushites.

  • The best ad on Osama bin Forgotten that nobody viewed…

    Before the 2004 election the Dems had a chance to pour that onto teevees across America.
    They didn’t.

    Moral of the story:

    HIT BACK HARD.
    AND DON’T STOP HITTING.
    ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU HAVE TRUTH ON YOUR SIDE.

  • Bush isn’t “strong”. He’s a stupid, spoiled rich kid who neither notices nor cares what he leaves in his self-serving wake. He has always left his messes for others to clean up if they want to. There is no way such heedlessness can be called strength. Nor is it correct to regard this as a contest of wills/strengths. The only way to bring reality to such people is by doing whatever can be done to never let them get their way, no matter how trivial or important the topic.

  • No doubt about it. ShrubCo is vulnerable to attack from the right.

    An attack from the right is what the Rs fear because it directly challenges their world view. Most of us on this side think Iraq was a mistake either because it was foolish or that war there and then was morally wrong. And time has proved us correct.

    The hardcore primary voting R’s don’t see it that way. To them Iraq was necessary, we are under attack (from religious fundamentalists), and that this fight must be taken to the enemy (whoever that is). The situation is dire and we are in the fight of our generation…..nothing less than civilization is at stake.

    Starting from this perspective, i.e., this is the stuggle of our generation, how can you not be disappointed by Shrub.

    He wouldn’t send in the Rangers into Tora Bora because they were being held in reserve for deployment to Iraqi-Kurdistan. Because of that – OBL got away and is free today.

    He turned his back on the CentComm Iraq invasion plan that had been under development for 10 years and required 380K troops to secure the country after Sadaam fell while maintaining a buffer against Iranian power. Because of that, Iraq is no longer provides a balance of power against Iran and Iran grows in strength daily.

    He outscourced the big decisions in the reconstruction to Bremer et al. And because of that the Iraqi army was disbanded and sent home without their promised back pay but with their weapons. Further, because of that, radical debaathification purged thousands of middle managers and teachers from the payrolls shutting down schools and sending those home who knew how to make the trains run on time and get the power turned on.

    As the insurgency started building speed, Shrub either ignored it or was out of the loop. When it was clear that additional troops were needed to quell the violence, Shrub should pat. Stay the course he said. And because of that, Iraq slid into chaos.

    As ShrubCo dithered, bemoaning the lack of Iraqi Thomas Jeffersons, he cemented Iraq’s future to life under a collection of Maliki green zone beaurocrats, terrorists, death squads, militias, Sadrists, Iranians, and other assorted a**holes. And because of his blundering there are no good options for Iraq or its people left.

    And because Shrub failed in the hour of need, any chance we had at building a free Iraq that shares our values, and could become best friends with Israel, and would serve as a beacon of freedom, and starting a reverse domino effect that would knock down the despotic regimes of the region that would surely follow when the freedom thirsting arabs and persians, seeing good life across the border, launched demands of supply side ecomonics and democracy for all.

    As for other examples of incompetence, let not even get into operation Rolling Blunder and the Arming of a Nuclear North Korea. ShrubCo sure handled this one with deft and skill.

    If you believe that Iraq is crucial to our safety, religious fundamentalists are set to take over north america, and that our nation faces the threat of a generation, how can you not be disappointed in ShrubCo when presented with these facts.

    So hit them from the right. If this Iraq war was necessary, why did we experiment with Rumsfeld’s theories on next gen warfare instead following the Generals’ plans, why did we just send the army to fight it without asking the folks back home to pitch in, and why was Shrub so far in left field when all the important decisions were made. Further suggest that with the Iraq war training a whole new generation of terrorists where they had not been and the Taliban re-emerging it sure does not look giving “them” a foothold in Iraq after they lost “their” training ground in Afghanistan may have been a good idea.

    The answers to those questions leave you with one conclusion – ShrubCo sure conducted this war in a reckless and incompetent manner and the situation we find our self in today is undeniably of ShrubCo’s making (and those who enabled him, i.e., hint McCain, rubberstamp R’s, etc.).

    Hit them where they live. Just the facts man. Don’t need to give them hell when the facts do just fine.

  • Damn straight, CB. But IMHO they should not get bogged down in the details. Stick to the broader narrative, where specific questions do not even enter the discussion. Americans know the basics, but it needs to be repeated and reinforced, examples should be used only if necessary. The attack points are credibility and intelligence. Once you pound those, all the attacks of the right sound desperate.

    They throw a punch, we just grab their fist like this:

    “I’m sorry, but Republicans like ___ have zero credibility, and they won’t have any until they finally admit what a failure this president has been at everything he has tried to accomplish.”

    Follow that with a direct rebuttal of the attack, without repeating it:

    These latest Republican attacks are just as deceptive as the ones they used to sell the Iraq war in the first place. No one is buying that crap anymore.”

    And then finish them off with a final blow, highlighting the Democratic strength of superior intelligence…

    “A REAL leader takes the time to actually understand important issues, and the Republicans have clearly told everyone on the planet that they have no idea what they’re talking about.”

    (Here I would insert a specific example of Republican incompetence, but only one that is iron-clad and firmly established in at least 70% of the public’s mind) For example:

    “For crying out loud, they don’t even know the difference between the major factions in the Iraqi civil war.”

  • I’m with Racerx. Stick with the broader narrative. Avoid the charges of cowardice as I think that riles ordinary Americans. The themes of credibility and competence resonate and examples abound across all aspects of this administration: Iraq, Afghanistan, Katrina, Foley, Gonzalez, Walter Reed Hospital, etc. All but the diehard thirty-something % of GOP supporters will identify with one of those issues. And that’s when they open their minds to the Democratic Party.

    Republican’t Party: zero credility and even less competence.

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