Gonzales’ days as AG are numbered

It’s kind of amusing to think that literally just a week ago, it seemed Attorney General Alberto Gonzales was, facts be damned, going to keep his job. He believed he had “weathered the storm.” He was caught in the midst of a massive scandal he still can’t explain, his Justice Department is divided and dysfunctional, and he’d lost the trust of pretty much everyone who has objectively considered the facts, but Bush is satisfied — so Gonzales is “confident” that he’s going to stay right where he is.

For that matter, it seemed, for unclear reasons, that there was nothing Congress would do about it. Since James Comey’s Senate testimony on Tuesday, however, it’s become clear that Gonzales hadn’t weathered the storm, he was just in the storm’s eye.

We talked yesterday about the no-confidence resolution introduced by Sens. Schumer and Feinstein, and I was curious to see how much, if any, Republican push-back there’d be. If this morning’s news accounts are any indication, the GOP isn’t prepared to fight the resolution at all.

Gonzales continued to lose backing yesterday among GOP lawmakers as Norm Coleman (Minn.) became the sixth Senate Republican to call for his resignation. Sen. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) predicted Gonzales will resign once Congress completes an inquiry into the firings because he is “unable to perform his duties.”

“I have a sense that when we finish our investigation, we may have a conclusion of the tenure of the attorney general,” Specter said. […]

Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) said Bush “should obviously seriously consider” firing Gonzales over the 2004 incident.

Even Sen. Pat Roberts (R-Kan.), one of the GOP’s more shameless hacks, said yesterday that Gonzales’s resignation should now be considered a possibility. “When you have to spend more time up here on Capitol Hill instead of running the Justice Department, maybe you ought to think about it,” Roberts said.

For those keeping score at home, that’s 10 Republican senators who’ve publicly said they think it’s time for Gonzales to go, one way or another.

The guy’s toast.

For a couple of months, the debate over Gonzales’ future was fixated on what it would take to a) convince the AG that he had to step down; or b) convince Bush to get rid of his buddy. This week, the debate shifted — no one cares anymore what Gonzales or Bush think; Congress is going to deal with this on its own.

Just as an aside, it’s also worth noting that Time magazine reports that the Card/Gonzales meeting in Ashcroft’s hospital room was itself legally dubious.

“Executive branch rules require sensitive classified information to be discussed in specialized facilities that are designed to guard against the possibility that officials are being targeted for surveillance outside of the workplace,” says Georgetown Law Professor Neal Katyal, who was National Security Advisor to the Deputy Attorney General under Bill Clinton. “The hospital room of a cabinet official is exactly the type of target ripe for surveillance by a foreign power,” Katyal says. This particular information could have been highly sensitive. Says one government official familiar with the Terrorist Surveillance Program: “Since it’s that program, it may involve cryptographic information,” some of the most highly protected information in the intelligence community.

The law controlling the unwarranted disclosure of classified information that has been gained through electronic surveillance is particularly strict. In the past, everyone from low-level officers in the armed forces to sitting Senators have been investigated by the Justice department for the> intentional disclosure of such information. The penalty for “knowingly and willfully” disclosing information “concerning the communication intelligence activities of the United States” carries a penalty up to 10 years in prison under U.S. law. “It’s the one you worry about, says the government official familiar with the program.

Stay tuned.

In other words, the Bush Administration broke the law. The countdown to martial law continues.

  • At this point, I have difficulty believing that Gonzales will go for anything short of actual impeachment. Bush never fires anyone for incompetence, or lawbreaking. And Gonzales is the ultimate loyal toadie who seems to enjoy putting his body in the path of any arrows that might harm his Dear Leader.

  • The guy’s toast.

    Not so fast. Bush knows that a new nominee will have to answer questions regarding (1) wiretapping (2) torture (3) habeas corpus and on and on… and now Leahy’s chair, not Specter.

    Bush is probably weighing (a) an extended AG impeachment vs (b) having to appoint a moderate AG who might ‘do a Comey’ at some point in the future…

    Tough choice, Mr. Prez…

  • “Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) said Bush “should obviously seriously consider” firing Gonzales over the 2004 incident.”

    Does Olympia realize that Abu G was sent to the hospital BY Bush?

    “Just as an aside, it’s also worth noting that Time magazine reports that the Card/Gonzales meeting in Ashcroft’s hospital room was itself legally dubious.”

    Time is a little late with that. I think alert readers of the CBR noted a few days ago that the meeting/visit itself may have been illegal.

  • Gonzo and Card pressure a drugged Attorney General about illegal wiretaps in a non-secured room that may have been itself, illegally wiretapped. The acting AG races to the scene, sirens blaring and runs into the building to intercede at the shadowy meeting. The FBI jumps in on the acting AG’s behalf.

    Is this our government in action, or a rejected story arc from 24? Perhaps at the next GOP debate Britt Hume could present this scenario and ask, “You’re Jack Baur. What do you do?”

  • There could still be a “catch” here….

    ***Sen. Olympia Snowe (R-Maine) said Bush “should obviously seriously consider” firing Gonzales over the 2004 incident.***

    We know that Gonzo and Card were “dispatched” to Ashcroft’s bedside by “a WH official.” Would that official be Rove, Cheney—or perhaps Bush himself? If Bush, then we’re looking at something that’ll make Nixon’s Watergate escapades look like watered-down milk, and a full-press stonewalling will definitely cary him through to end-of-term—at the expense of the Republic itself (which we know Bush really doesn’t give a flying flip about anyway). The bright side of this, though, is:

    ***For those keeping score at home, that’s 10 Republican senators who’ve publicly said they think it’s time for Gonzales to go, one way or another.***

    50 on the Dem side (I’ll never depend on Joe Lie; he’s in Bush’s pocket) plus 10 on the GOP side equals 60, which is several more than were in the anti-Gonzo camp just a couple days ago. If the weight of the Comey testimony, coupled with the political ease of supporting a no-confidence vote, can garner at least 7 more supporters in the effort to dump Gonzo, then Bush will have to start weighing his options. 67 anti-Gonzo votes in the Senate is the threshhold for impeachment conviction….

  • bubba beat me to it.

    Does Olympia realize that Abu G was sent to the hospital BY Bush?

    Hey Sen. Snowe, get another cup of coffee and wake up!

  • Bush isn’t going to fire Gonezales, it would be like dropping a shield in the middle of a swordfight. Gonezales has a job to do and he’s going to play the human shield until Bush can make it to the door. Then he’ll get a nice fat pardon. So we’ll have to impeach him or live with him. Same goes for Bush.

    And I think the Snowes and Specters will balk if it comes to Gonzo’s impeachment, because… they talk a good game but suck ass when it comes to real action.

    As sick as it is to have a corrupt AG, what makes me want to puke nails is that the freaking Dems are still waffling over the concept of Gonezales’ impeachment. Hell, they won’t even say the word, usually. It should be said often, to remind people what will need to happen if Bush doesn’t do the right thing.

    Dems should have been pushing for Gonzo’s impeachment long ago, if it happens now it’s hard to give them much credit.

  • Steve raises an interesting question. Where is Lieberman on the Gonzales issue? The Republic wants to know!!!

  • This is so much bigger than just having an incompetent Attorney General who has no understanding that his role as AG is not merely an elevation of his former position as WH counsel, and no understanding of the need for the Justice Department to be as independent from partisan political concerns and pressures as possible.

    The heart of all of this is the belief within the WH that the president’s power supersedes all others, that he is not required to answer to anyone, and that Constitutional justification can be made for whatever it is he wants to do. This is Dick Cheney, convinced that the power of the executive had been weakened and needed to be strengthened.

    This is but one of Cheney’s beliefs, but it is the one that makes all else possible. Combine that philosophy and agenda with Karl Rove, whose job it is to make sure that Republicans of like mind ascend to power in as many districts and offices as possible, by whatever means necessary.

    These are people who want to eliminate the power of government to help the people, but want to use that same power to help themselves, and to enrich and empower those within and without that government who help make that happen. You need look only look at those who have benefited and those who have suffered to understand how these people view the proper use of government.

    The resignation of Gonzales – or even the impeachment of Gonzales – would be the equivalent of removing one cancerous lymph node and expecting a cure, when the primary site of the cancer is left in place to grow and infiltrate other areas of the body.

    It may, in fact, be a psychologically smart move to try to impeach Gonzales, because it sends an important message that if there is enough will to take that step with the Attorney General, it is possible that what might come out in a trial would make the impeachment of Bush and Cheney the obvious and logical next step.

  • ….. and how long does it actually take in order to get a vote to the floor? What are the Senators waiting for? Or is this one of those ‘Wolfowitz’ occasions where attorneys have to decide how to ‘word’ the resignation, so that it looks – in the official records – that Gonzo was a good guy, and that it is EVERYBODY’s fault.

  • What still needs to come out is who got wiretapped. It must have been a pervasive and political abuse of power with an extensive trail of evidence.
    Attorney-gate demonstrates that politics trumps all in the Gonzo’s house of justice. How could Rove resist the temptation to listen in on his political enemies? Gonzo is the keeper of these secrets so when he becomes toast so does Georgie.

  • Considering this administration’s motto is “F*ck you America!”, I’m not so sure Abu’s going anywhere. If these guys had shame or conscience, they would have been gone long ago, but no such luck for us.

  • Considering this administration’s motto is “F*ck you America!”, I’m not so sure Abu’s going anywhere. If these guys had shame or conscience, they would have been gone long ago, but no such luck for us.

    That’s the way I see it, too. The concept of Bush in power with nothing left to lose is one I find nightmarish.

  • Until 67 Senators have publicly declared that AG must go, my money is on AG staying. This whole scandal takes the heat off Bush in one sense. If it continues another year, then Bush has a shield in place for that long.

  • From Time’s article

    “Comey, who during Ashcroft’s stay in the hospital was acting Attorney General, has told Congressional investigators that when he arrived at the room and began explaining to Ashcroft why he was there, he was intentionally “very circumspect” so as not to disclose classified information in an unsecure setting and in front of Ashcroft’s wife, Janet, who was at his bedside and was apparently not authorized to know about the program.

    Comey described what happened next: “The door opened and in walked Mr. Gonzales, carrying an envelope, and Mr. Card. They came over and stood by the bed. They greeted the attorney general very briefly. And then Mr. Gonzales began to discuss why they were there — to seek his approval for a matter, and explained what the matter was — which I will not do.”

    Read that closely. Gonzales “explained what the matter was — which I will not [and did not] do.” Comey delivered Gonzales, carefully wrapped, under the bus.

    Moral of the story: don’t f*ck with US Attorneys. They know the law, know how to use it, and have long memories.

  • It is nice that some Republicans are allegedly coming around, but seriously does anyone doubt that Gonzales acted in any way indepedently? Gonzales was just a mouthpiece at the Justice Department for Carl Rove and Bush. Anyone thinking otherwise is deluded (or a Fox news viewer).

  • How quickly can an impeachment happen? Under circumstances where the necessary votes were perceived to be available, how fast could an impeachment go from start to finish? Can the process be thwarted out of the gate by procedural moves? I’ve been around for both Watergate and the Clinton debacle but I can’t say that I understand the mechanics of impeachment.

    My impression, and I think that of many people, is that the process of impeachment is the equivalent of Sisyphus pushing his rock up the hill and that it’s going to be some long, drawn out national nightmare that may not be worse than the nightmare of ShrubCo but it won’t be easy and it may not bear fruit if ShrubCo can derail the process or skate away from the result after a great amount of noise resulting in nothing but deeper discord.

    ShrubCo deserves to be removed from office and jailed. That’s beyond dispute. But even folks who believe that to the core of their very being may be reluctant to get behind a process that’s just going to tear everything up and last until Nov/08, when the the Shrubista’s will be on their way out anyway, (according to some vague constitutional theory I once heard about).

    I’m pro impeachment. I’m even pro tearing things up. But a lot of people need to be convinced it won’t be like that to get enthusiastic about doing it.

  • Count me as skeptical as one. I’ve heard (and thought) so many times for so long that Alberto’s days were numbered, that I’m starting to think that nothing short of showing a videotape of him performing an abortion will get Dubyaland to insist he walk the plank. Dubya is too stubborn to fire him or ask him to resign and Alberto is too clueless to do it himself. Really, the two are a match made in hell.

  • Whether Gonzo remains as AG isn’t that important to me. Bush-Rove-Cheney have made State, Defense, and other Cabinet departments useless. DoJ has been Bushized, and any Gonzo replacement will be no better.

    But, I don’t want to see Gonzales resign. I want him impeached — because impeachment or investigation by a Special Prosecutor is the only way we can pry our way into the secret doings of Bush-Rove-Cheney before Bush is out of office.

    The big deal in all of this is *evidence*, which in a court must meet a higher standard than most of us would require. The Bushies know this and Congress knows it. To produce the evidence, the search has to begin at the edges, and Gonzo is a garage door waiting to open.

    burro #20 asks some good questions about impeachment. I think the answer to some have to do with evidence. Is there enough *admissible* evidence? But that’s for a trial. I don’t know the mechanics of impeachment either. My sense from watching the Watergate hearings is that they were mostly about gathering evidence for the possible trial. Clinton’s ordeal seemed more like a summary court martial, followed by a series of opening and closing arguments with not much in the middle. With Clinton, of course, the whole idiotic melodrama, featuring both houses of Congress and the Chief justice of the Supreme Court was about a blowjob that wasn’t bipartisan.

  • The conclusion Democrats should draw from the absence of pushback to no-confidence is that there’s no appetite to fight impeaching that pathetic worm of a man, either. Nobody is going to the wall for Abu Gonzo; few of them would even go to the wall for Bush at this point. The congressional Republicans grasp that he’s not there for them.

    There MUST be consequences for shitting on the Law and the Constitution.

  • Isn’t strange that if Mr. Cheney is indeed “the President”, most of the blow back from this administration always goes back to the least competent one, Mr. Bush. Dennis Kusinich seems to be correct about Mr. Cheney and this seems to be the source of the assault on reason and the American constitution. Cheney appears to present himself as having powers of the Presidency to the Plame judge, even though he is a member of the legislature. Hopefully, Comey and Mueller are stand up guys which have stood up to Cheney.

  • Remember, it’s not what’s good for the GOP, but what’s good for Bush. WWGBD? He doesn’t give a hoot about the GOP’s prospects. It’s his own legacy and keeping his administration out of jail once he leaves office that occupies him at the moment. The only thing he has is his stubbornness, which he sees as character, and keeping a loyalist in place long enough to hold off accountability until his midnight, blank amnesty is granted to all whom serve him.

    (I remember, at the beginning of the 2000 campaign, when the books Bush read were the chatter, he said that what he learned from reading Presidential biographies is that great Presidents do what’s right and stick by their guns, and remembered by history for it. So, Bush’s problem is that he actually did read a book.)

    So what I see here are GOP defections. There will be GOP defections on Iraq by the time the next election rolls around, but that doesn’t mean we’re pulling out any more than Gonzales has to resign. From the beginning, the Administration’s response to getting caught red handed is to promote and defend the corrupt and incompetent. You want to complain about Tenet and Rumsfeld? Then they get the Medal of Freedom. Getting slaughtered in the Press is the same thing as job security in Bush’s White House.

    Why did Tenet get pushed aside after Afghanistan? Because it was successful. Why did Bush have to stick behind Rumsfeld after Iraq? Because he failed, and the only failure Bush can admit is in convincing the American people he’s succeeded. How does pushing out Gonzales further these goals?

  • The aspect I forgot to address: Gonzales only goes if Congress stands up. For Dems, impeachment is like cutting funding for the troops. They would have cartilage in their spines to bone, which has yet to happen. For Dems, impeachment is akin to cutting funding for the troops.

  • All those Repubs saying “Gonzo must/should/ought to go” is so much hot air. They may sign off on the — non binding — vote of no-confidence, but that’s just icing on no-cake. Watch their hands (as they vote), not their lips. We’ll see how they act if/when the matter becomes *binding* — either impeachment or jail.

    What ticks me off is the Dems still waffling on whether to, even, investigate formally the matter of legality of the hospital visit vis-avis national security. I think, if Congress went after it seriously, Gonzo would be gone in a New York minute, via impeachment, because, however fraught it may be for the Repubs, it’d still be “cheaper” than having Bush and/or Cheney be tangled in a *criminal* case.

  • burro–the process of the impeachment part of this could be rather fast. It only takes a simple majority of the House of Representatives to approve, by vote, impeachment. It can be based upon the evidence Congress already has before it through these various investigations by the various committees. Again, think of the House as the prosecutor and grand jury and the impeachment as the indictment. The slow-down would likely come in the Senate, which is the judge and jury, and is then required to perform the equivalent of the trial on the charges for which the officer was impeached. Additional evidence and testimony can be taken or presented.

  • Thanks bubba. The term “impeachment” is getting tossed around without a lot of understanding of what it means beyond the desired result. If the reality of the process could be discussed rather than the visceral desire for avenging justice and retribution it might start getting some traction. To many, impeachment means accountability. To others it means interminable ordeal with vaguely satisfying to unsatisfying results.

    Bubba mentions a “slow-down” in the Senate and I think that is where many start to back away. It’s a serious process with, hopefully, an unambiguous outcome. It’s not supposed to be easy but can it be a rational and uncircuslike procedure in this incredibly screwed up and ultra partisan environment that we are now in. The very system we need in order to proceed with impeachment is the same system, (among many), that ShrubCo is desperately working to destroy.

  • The House will be the slowdowner. At AG’s May 10th hearing, their Rethugs were still in “nothing to see here–move along” mode.

  • burro #30–in many ways, the intent (and actual operation) of the Framers was for the House, or to allow the House, to be like a near circus. The real place for the people to duke it out and truly be political. A place to be more visceral–a true airing of the grievances, if you will. Not just on impeachment, but on darn near everything. And the Senate was to be a bit more sensible and deliberative.

    RedLobster, but you forget, the impeachment part of this only requires the vote of a simple majority of those present in the Chamber after proper quorum has been achieved. Dems outnumber the GOP in the House and the Dem leadership has done a pretty stand-up job on keeping the caucus together. ON impeachment of Abu G? I would be very surprised if there were even one Dem who did not vote for impeachment.

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