GOP congressman: Giuliani ‘pro-life’

Republican Rep. Pete Sessions, a staunch opponent of abortion rights and a vocal supporter of Rudy Giuliani, told TV preacher Pat Robertson’s Christian Broadcasting Network that the former NYC mayor would, if he were in Congress, be considered “pro-life.” He did not appear to be kidding.

“In a hypothetical comparison of congressional votes, Mayor Giuliani’s voting record would mirror the voting record of Fred Thompson, including votes on partial birth abortion, taxpayer funding on abortions, and parental notification laws. Mayor Giuliani respects the values of social conservatism, and his position on these issues would categorize him as a predominately pro-life Member of Congress.”

This is more than hyperbole; it’s ridiculous. As Marc Ambinder put it, “Sessions is probably joking. If Giuliani is willing to let surrogates describe himself as pro-life, then the words have no meaning, and Giuliani is pandering.”

The Giuliani campaign? Pander? Never.

Sessions added, “Mrs. Clinton will not be their friend and not see it the way they would. Rudy Giuliani respects life.” Now, that’s slightly closer to a defensible position — it’s arguing that Clinton is pro-choice, and by comparison, Giuliani is closer to conservatives than the Democratic frontrunner. But that’s not what Sessions, speaking to CBN on Giuliani’s behalf, claimed.

To even try to pull this flip-flop off is painfully ridiculous — and it runs counter to everything Giuliani has vowed to do on the issue.

The YouTube clips are, at this point, practically legendary. Here’s Giuliani vowing to protect so-called “partial-birth abortions.” Here he is explaining why public funding for abortion is absolutely necessary. Here he is talking about all the money he’s donated to Planned Parenthood.

“His position on these issues would categorize him as a predominately pro-life Member of Congress”? Please.

But just as importantly, I’ve been thinking about this piece from May in the NYT:

After months of conflicting signals on abortion, Rudolph W. Giuliani is planning to offer a forthright affirmation of his support for abortion rights in public forums, television appearances and interviews in the coming days, despite the potential for bad consequences among some conservative voters already wary of his views, aides said yesterday. […]

The campaign’s approach would be a sharp departure from the traditional route to the Republican nomination in the last 20 years, in which Republicans have highlighted their antiabortion views.

Mr. Giuliani hinted at what aides said would be his uncompromising position on abortion rights yesterday in Huntsville, Ala., where he was besieged with questions about abortion and his donations to Planned Parenthood. “Ultimately, there has to be a right to choose,” he said.

Asked if Republicans would accept that, he said, “I guess we are going to find out.”

Mr. Giuliani acknowledged that his stance on abortion alone might disqualify him with some voters, but he said, “I am at peace with that.”

The strategy, the campaign said at the time, would be to just let Giuliani be Giuliani. He’s pro-choice, he’s always been pro-choice, and there’s no point in trying to argue otherwise. Indeed, it would be insulting the intelligence of the voters to even make the effort.

So much for that idea.

Update: As it turns out, Sessions’ comments might be part of a broader strategy. Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), another close Giuliani ally, tried to make a similar argument on MSNBC last night, saying he’s “pro-life” and he’s supporting Giuliani, in part, on “the life issue.”

If Roodee is anything, he is pro Plunger and pro mistress.

  • I trust that Rudy will explain that, much like his position on private ownership of firearms, everything about his position on choice was changed by 9/11.

    And when he makes that inevitable statement, I can only hope someone asks “the only connection I can see is that, culturally, you want to be more like the sharia-backing terrorists – is that how you changed?”

  • Of course Giuliani is pro-life, just like he’s tough on terror. And smart. And courageous.

    Of course this only makes sense if you guzzle the koolaid.

    Pete Sessions is a bag of cow manure* who will say literally anything to help his team. He knows the average Republican would vote for an abortion provider if that was the only way to vote against the hated Democrats.

    *OK, he likes to play with manure, probably hiding his own odor.

  • “Indeed, it would be insulting the intelligence of the voters to even make the effort.”

    Insult the intelligence of Republican voters? How would one do that?

  • Snicker all you want. No really, I have.

    But if Rudy were to come out in support of abortion rights (or rather, reaffirm his previous support on abortion rights), it might be the sort of thing that’d win him the presidency (though iroincally, it’d probably cost him the nomination).

    Despite all the Bush-Bashing there are still a lot of right-leaning indies who really are uncomfortable with the rollover Democrats in Congress. Economically conservative, socially neutral but conservative-leaning (kinda sorta for abortion but gay rights but really REALLY hate to talk about it). To have a GOP candidate who *appears* to be good at running a government & is tough on crime while at the same time being pro-choice and pro-gay (which means that, while he’s in office, GOP Senators/Congresspeople probably won’t make either issue an issue) could be music to some of their ears.

    Not saying definitely, but what he’d lose in Crazy Fundie Vote, he might make up for – and more – from the mushy middle.

  • Sessions is just pulling the Limbaugh strategy – lie to the base. They want to believe you – they’re CONDITIONED to believe you – so if you make the lie big and bold they’ll go along with it.

    This is how Limbaugh is getting away with turning his smear on the troops into Media Matters smearing HIM – he just lies. There’s no real secret to it – they’re not subtle – just tell a lie and make it bold. They realized long ago that no one in the stenographer pool we call a media will ever call them on it if the lie is bold enough.

  • Sounds like the notion of a third-party candidate scared the crap out of them, and now they are desperately trying to make Rudy pro-life in order to keep that from happening.

    It can’t be a coincidence, can it?

  • Rudy won’t flip on this, he’ll split the difference and agree to pick an anti-abortion justice. He’ll play on conservative greed. Oh, wait, he already did that.

    From a great profile of Rudy in the New Yorker:

    After the debate, Giuliani worked the spin room, and then addressed a crowd of supporters who had watched the event on TV in a nearby ballroom. Focussing on the differences between him and the Democrats, he assailed Hillary Clinton, criticizing her as a redistributionist and an enemy of the free market. “Now, these are scary thoughts, they really are—that she, or some Democrat, can take your money and they’re going to use it for the common good,” he said.

    Campaigning against Clinton eight months before the first primary serves at least two purposes for Giuliani. It provides an implicit preview of the general election and it entails the joy of combat. “We’re going to have a big fight against the Democrats,” he promised his partisans. “A big, big fight. The media, the liberal media, has already installed them. And if you read the New York Times, and you listen to CNN, I mean we shouldn’t even be running. But you know something? We’re going to give ’em a big surprise.”

    Such events, little noticed by the broad voting public, can send important signals to political activists. The signal from Giuliani was that he had found his old form. He began to taunt Democrats for faintheartedness in what he called “the terrorists’ war against us”—extending, he charged, to an unwillingness to even call the enemy by its name: Islamic terrorism. “Did they think it wouldn’t be politically correct?” he said. “Did they think it would be insulting? When you say ‘Islamic terrorists,’ the only people you’re insulting are . . . Islamic terrorists. And, really, we don’t care if we insult them.”

    For Giuliani, focussing on the differences between him and the Democrats has also served to distract attention from the differences between himself and the Republican base. His view of abortion as a moral wrong but an individual right is unlikely to persuade the pro-life wing of the Party that he would not appoint another David Souter to the Supreme Court. Last month, Giuliani sent a message to the Republican base that, in the cipher of abortion politics, was meant to say, Trust me. Guided by his old friend Ted Olson, who is now in private law practice, Giuliani assembled a Justice Advisory Committee that included Steven Calabresi, one of the founders of the Federalist Society, and Miguel Estrada, whose nomination to the federal bench in 2001 was filibustered by Democrats for more than two years, before he finally withdrew.

  • eadie (#8) – yeah, the common good really sucks. I can’t believe anyone would want to help the common good. sheesh. what next, securing the general welfare? what is that pinko feminazi thinking?

    eadie has provided by daily reminder of why i hate rethugs: #724 – unquenchable selfishness.

  • the only thing il duce is “pro” is pro-getting nominated and elected. to that end, he’ll say anything, do anything necessary!

  • It probably is nothing more than a blatant effort to confuse the already under-informed electorate. Remember how many people weren’t even clear on the issues between Bush and Kerry in 2004. Unless and until the other Republicans call Il Rudi on this nonsense, he’ll get away with it; fortunately, Romney is the sort of two-faced prick who probably can be counted on to shiv his co-partisan rival.

  • It’s almost as if they are following the strategy of, “If we say it enough, people will definitely believe it’s true, whether or not it’s a break from reality.”

    Then again, considering who he is and the position he’s in, it’s not an entirely dumb strategy. Most Republican primary voters don’t know he’s pro-choice, according to the polls. If they can claim that he’s against abortion, and he can equivocate enough, perhaps it’ll stop being such a big issue. The acquiescent press will help quite a bit.

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  • Pete Sessions is my Congressman, and believe me, he’ll sell out the social conservatives at the drop of a hat for personal gain. Rudy Giuliani must have offered him a top job in exchange for delivering the pro-life vote. After he wins, Rudy will do his usual pro-choice thing, Pete Sessions will get a top appointment, and both will hope the social conservatives forget all the campaign promises.

    One thing people should know about Pete Sessions is that he’s near the bottom of influential members of Congress (#425 out of 435); he ranks 189th most influential Republican (out of 202) and of Texas members of Congress he’s in last place (#32). After 11 years in Congress, he should be more influential. The real power broker in the Texas delegation, who’s also a social conservative, is Joe Barton.

    Pete Sessions also endorsed gay-friendly mayor of Dallas Tom Leppert, who has agreed to march in the “gay pride parade.” As has been pointed out in previous posts, Pete Sessions will say what he has to, or endorse anybody he has to, to further his political career. While he is a solid conservative vote in the House, that’s all he is–a vote. Having met Mr. Sessions, I can attest to the fact that his convictions are not strong. At a recent town hall meeting, some Democrats showed up, and he fell all over them, telling them how many times he disagreed with Bush, and so forth. When the wind changes, so will Pete Sessions.

    Rudy Giuliani is too liberal for social conservatives, and Pete Sessions is too weak to deliver their vote.

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