GOP presidential hopefuls fight over Reagan’s legacy

There are quite a few embarrassing clips on YouTube of Mitt Romney straying from the traditional Republican line, but among the more damaging has to do with Ronald Reagan. In an October 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy, Romney distanced himself from the 40th president, saying, “I was an independent at the time of Reagan-Bush. I’m not trying to return to Reagan-Bush.”

Sunday, Mike Huckabee emphasized Romney’s anti-Reagan past, telling CNN, “He was against Ronald Reagan’s legacy and said he wasn’t a part of that Bush-Reagan thing.” This, of course, led Romney to push back on who can best represent the Reagan legacy.

“I must admit that I find the vision and the direction that Ronald Reagan laid out for this country to be very powerful and very compelling,” Romney told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer. “I’ll tell you, Ronald Reagan would have never raised taxes like Mike Huckabee did, Ronald Reagan would have never said let’s give tuition breaks to illegals like Mike Huckabee did, Ronald Reagan would have never stood by and pushed for a budget that more than doubled during his term as president.”

“Mike Huckabee as a matter of fact has a very different record than Ronald Reagan, and I’m pretty proud that my record stands up quite well.”

Now, I don’t much care which of these two Republicans most resembles Reagan, and it makes very little difference to me whose attacks are more effective.

But if the GOP is going to fight over Reagan’s record, they should at least try to get it right.

Let’s take yesterday’s claims one at a time. Romney said, “Ronald Reagan would have never raised taxes like Mike Huckabee did.” Actually, Reagan raised taxes far more than Mike Huckabee did.

[R]aising taxes is exactly what Reagan did. He did not always instigate those hikes or agree to them willingly — but he signed off on them. One year after his massive tax cut, Reagan agreed to a tax increase to reduce the deficit that restored fully one-third of the previous year’s reduction. […]

Faced with looming deficits, Reagan raised taxes again in 1983 with a gasoline tax and once more in 1984, this time by $50 billion over three years, mainly through closing tax loopholes for business. Despite the fact that such increases were anathema to conservatives — and probably cost Reagan’s successor, George H.W. Bush, reelection — Reagan raised taxes a grand total of four times just between 1982-84. […]

Reagan continued these “modest rollbacks” in his second term. The historic Tax Reform Act of 1986, though it achieved the supply side goal of lowering individual income tax rates, was a startlingly progressive reform. The plan imposed the largest corporate tax increase in history — an act utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today. Just two years after declaring, “there is no justification” for taxing corporate income, Reagan raised corporate taxes by $120 billion over five years and closed corporate tax loopholes worth about $300 billion over that same period.

Romney said, “Ronald Reagan would have never said let’s give tuition breaks to illegals like Mike Huckabee did.” Actually, Reagan did something even more heretical: he supported amnesty for undocumented immigrants.

President Ronald Reagan granted amnesty to illegal immigrants when he signed the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that affected mostly Latino immigrants living in the United States since 1982.

Of the nearly 4 million illegal immigrants eligible to apply for legal residency under the 1986 law, 55 percent were from Mexico, according to the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service. The law gave immigrants who came to America before 1982 one year, between May 1987 and May 1988, to apply for temporary resident status and permits for employment.

And Romney said, “Ronald Reagan would have never stood by and pushed for a budget that more than doubled during his term as president.” Maybe not, but let’s not pretend that Reagan was some kind of budget-cutter, either.

Though his budgets requested some cuts in some areas of discretionary spending, Reagan rapidly retreated and never seriously pushed them. As Lou Cannon, the Washington Post reporter who covered Reagan’s political career for 25 years, put it in his masterful biography, President Reagan: The Role of a Lifetime, “For all the fervor they created, the first-term Reagan budgets were mild manifestos devoid of revolutionary purpose. They did not seek to ‘rebuild the foundation of our society’ (the task Reagan set for himself and Congress in a nationally televised speech of February 5, 1981) or even to accomplish the ‘sharp reduction in the spending growth trend’ called for in [his] Economic Recovery Plan.” By Reagan’s second term, the idea of seriously diminishing the budget was, to quote Stockman, “an institutionalized fantasy.” Though in speeches Reagan continued to repeat his bold pledge to “get government out of the way of the people,” government stayed pretty much where it was. […]

In fact, the budget grew significantly under Reagan. All he managed to do was moderately slow its rate of growth. What’s more, the number of workers on the federal payroll rose by 61,000 under Reagan. (By comparison, under Clinton, the number fell by 373,000.)

This isn’t really a defense of Huckabee, so much as it’s a reminder to the GOP that Reagan’s legacy is not quite what the party thinks it is.

Gee, maybe Romney belongs in this picture, One of You Will Betray Conservatism, thanks to Crooks & Liars.

Currently featured in this modern rendition of a dramatic moment in religious history are John Snow / Alberto Gonzales / John Bolton / Steven Hadley / Scooter Libby / Donald Rumsfeld / George W. Bush / Dick Cheney / Josh Bolton / Michael Chertoff / Condoleeza Rice / Karl Rove / and Ari Fleisher, whose appearances are not intended to mean that there is any resemblence to the character of those originally portrayed.

  • Right. My memory of this was that the debt increased to an all time high (at that time) under Reagan, tripling or something.

  • But if the GOP is going to fight over Reagan’s record, they should at least try to get it right.

    Why? They aren’t fighting about the deeds of Ronald Reagan, they are fighting over the MYTH of Ronald Reagan.

  • What’s that with the garter around Bolton’s knee in that picture? Very funny picture and all that but anyone who would bestow the Order of the Garter on that snarling jackel should be frogmarched to the Tower of London never to be seen again.

    Unless the painter was just trying to show Bolton’s girlie-man side in which case it was totally justified. 🙂

  • “I must admit that I find the vision and the direction that Ronald Reagan laid out for this country to be very powerful and very compelling,” Romney told CNN’s Wolf Blitzer.

    Would that be providing arms to Iran? Or would it be providing aid to insurgents in defiance of an act of Congress?

    Or would it be this Reagan gem; “Trees cause more pollution than automobiles do.”

    Probably all of the above.

  • ” . . . was a startlingly progressive reform. The plan imposed the largest corporate tax increase in history — an act utterly unimaginable for any conservative to support today. Just two years after declaring, “there is no justification” for taxing corporate income, Reagan raised corporate taxes by $120 billion . . . ”

    Whoa! I know it’s not really relevant to the post, but the idea that raising corporate taxes is “startlingly progressive” is ridiculous. It’s regressive. Corporate taxes are tacked on to the cost of goods and services, because businesses shoot for after tax profits, not pre tax. It’s like a hidden sales tax. That’s regressive. Corporate taxes are just another cost of doing business. We shoot ourselves in the foot by trying to pass the tax burden on to corporations.

  • Well, Mittens has finally gone and done it—he has blasphemed the ReaganGod. There is no way in the Infernal Regions that he’ll garner the nomination now. Who’s left to win this thing now? I think HucksterBee is the only one who hasn’t shot himself in the foot—and severed a few arteries in the process….

  • We shoot ourselves in the foot by trying to pass the tax burden on to corporations.

    I’m not trying to be snarky, and I understand what you’re saying but, shouldn’t corporations be taxed? Putting the entire tax burden on them would indeed simply pass that burden on to us but I think that they should be taxed at some rate.

  • Yeah, yeah, next we are going to hear how Mitt can’t bench 1000 lbs like Reagan could or how he can’t walk on water or whatever non-sense they have cooked up in their pea brains.

    Reagan brought into our homes two words not commonly used before the 80’s, “trillion” and “contra”. Oh yeah, he also let all the crazies out of the asylums, literally. Now we call them homeless.

  • Kind of sad that the GOP gets all weepy and nostalgic over someone as average as Reagan was. I guess when you don’t hold the bar too high it’s easy to measure up.

  • What’s interesting is that as Huckabee emerges as a somewhat-to-very serious contender, several of the other candidates are starting to push back *hard*. I would posit that the reason for this is that Huckabee represents a greater threat to the Norquist/Club for Growth wing of the party–the greedy bastards who provide the warchest–than any Democrat: if he wins, it means they’ve lost the Christianists, and that breaks their hold on the party for the first time since before Goldwater.

    Whoever stops Huckabee will win the esteem of the Greed Wing, which is probably a greater prize than any one caucus/primary victory.

    I think that the Greed Wing currently favors Giuliani, who’s in some sense one of them, and who realized early on that since he couldn’t get the Dobsonites, he had to look for other allies. They aren’t bothered by Rudy’s social “moderation”–which, as they know but the moronic MSM does not, extends only to sex-related issues anyway–and they probably see his anti-Muslim fanaticism as a suitable replacement for the anti-gay, anti-reproductive rights fanaticism of the Christianists. They don’t seem to trust Romney, though they haven’t come out hard against him. But if he slays the Huckabee threat, and Rudy’s “weirdness factor” and bad judgment start seriously informing the narrative, they could get behind him.

    I guess there’s also TV’s Fred, who’s promised to cut every tax on the books. But he’s too absurd and uninterested to take seriously.

  • I wonder which one of the mental midgets would emulate Saint Ronnie the best in the field of selling weapons to our enemies? How about the area of giving illegal aliens citizenship? Aren’t national security and border control the most important issues evah? All Ronnie needed was a gay prostitute roaming the halls of the whitehouse. Bush had that of course, he engaged in “nation-building” (cough), and expanded “big government” like a drunken sailor, thus proving that he was like Reagan, in that he realized how freaking stupid Republican voters are and how they really have no core values whatsoever except the hatred of Democrats.

  • Reagan also talked to the commies about weakening America’s strategic force, visited that den of evil Moscow, was willing to compromise our technological edge by sharing SDI with Gorby, and signed away Western Europe’s nuclear deterrence with the INF Treaty.

    What a traitor.

  • Corporations already set their prices at the highest amount that traffic will bear. To claim that they will simply “pass along” higher income taxes to their customers is to deny the existence of the very market forces that conservatives worship.

    When Saint Ronald was a candidate for his first term, he promised to 1) increase defense spending, 2) cut taxes, and 3) balance the budget. Two out of three isn’t bad, right?

    I also remember another candidate that year named Bush who said that Reagan’s plan was “voodoo economics.” With hindsight, that Bush seems pretty smart now, doesn’t he? He was the same guy who didn’t invade Iraq during the first Gulf War because he knew that it would turn into a quagmire with no exit strategy.

  • So as I understand it “Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it” or just become Republican candidates?

    Catherine #2:

    You are correct about Reagan and the debt. When he entered office the national debt was an outrageous $1 trillion. When he left it was about $3.5 trillion, When George H. W. Bush left it was about $5.4 trillion. Clinton held it down to about $5.6 trillion for his 8 years and Chimpy has now run it up to about $9 trillion.

    All those supply siders believed in the Laffable curve. They were too stupid to realize that taxes are on the low end of the curve in this country. They just wanted to make sure their owners got even bigger tax breaks.

  • It’s the ketchup. Really.
    And maybe the lying to Congress, selling/giving arms to everyone prohibited by law, dirty little wars, guilt-free mass graves, obscene amounts of money made from looting everything, incalculable sums of money for every crack pot idea the Pentagon could come up with, demagoguing about nonexistent “welfare queens” without having to worry about someone calling you on it, and a fairly neutered press that couldn’t say a bad word about the old guy, cause he was in movie with a chimp…
    Who cares if so many people from his administration were convicted?

  • Romney and the “Club for Greed’s” attempt to mischaracterize Governor Huckabee’s record on spending and “paying for immigrants” abjectly failed. My parents live in AR. Most people understand that road improvements in a backward state cost money. At least he is a Governor who doesn’t wait for bridges to collapse before fixing the roads. As far as providing benefits for immigrants that is just a total twist of what was proposed. He defended his posItion brilliantly.

    Finally after all the verbal stumbles of the Bush presidency we have finally discovered someone who can communicate republican principles with wit & wisdom.

    Governor Huckabee won the debate the other night Hands down. Now he is being attacked over the stupidest crap. He is by far the most articulate, humble, real candidate out of all of them- McCain came out ok. Romney just got a beating..wow..definitely NOT his night. I wonder what Hugh Hewitt and all those who were so ready to give Romney the mantle of conservatism are doing after this one. HUCKABEE is a force to be contended with, and tonight he showed WHY he is on the rise in Iowa. The Underdog is poised to take a bite out of Rudy McRomney on Jan 3rd. The others were all a distant..3rd…Duncan Hunter had some ok stuff and Fred is frankly coming across as kinda like..hey man ..someone please pick me for VP so I can sport my hot wife around DC. And what was with the INQUISTION Style question the crackpot youtuber asked about the Bible(As if he has ever read it)(and all the man on man gay questions…and the rebel flag…weird..there had to be some better questions that those…but wow did the gays in the military question make Romney look like a TOTAL flip flopper…what a bad night for him.

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