Greenfield misses the point of the criticism

CNN’s [tag]Jeff Greenfield[/tag]’s lengthy segment on [tag]Barack Obama[/tag]’s casual wear, and its similarity to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad’s no-tie look, raised quite a few eyebrows over the last couple of days. The good news is Greenfield heard the criticism and chose to respond. The bad news is he missed the point of the criticism. Badly.

Greenfield insisted he was just kidding, and that it was obvious that the 2-and-a-half minute segment was meant in jest. Overly-sensitive bloggers, Greenfield said, just didn’t appreciate the seamless way in which he seamlessly blended satire and clever political analysis.

Is some of this my fault? It has to be, for the same reason famed Boston Celtics coach Red Auerbach liked to say that when someone misses a pass, 90 per cent of the time it’s the fault of the passer.

I figured there was no way on planet Earth that anyone could possibly take such a presentation at face value. I was wrong.

Most of what happened here, I think, is a demonstration of the hair-trigger instincts that have grown up among some of the bloggers (not to mention the need to fill all that space every day, or hour, or 15 minutes).

In a political world where partisans routinely assume the worst about their adversaries –and where conspiracy theories stretch from Bill Clinton as a drug ring- and murder-enabler to Bush as planner of 9/11 — there’s a tendency to find malice aforethought.

I like to consider myself someone with a fairly good sense of humor, and reading the transcript of Greenfield’s segment, I did not literally believe that the CNN analyst believed that Obama was going for the “Ahmadinejad look.”

Greenfield seems to have misunderstood why many of us were annoyed with his piece in the first place.

Greenfield didn’t just make an off-hand joke during an on-air discussion, he went to the trouble of putting together a lengthy segment in which he fleshed out his joke in great detail. This may have been a valiant attempt at humor, but as with many failed jokes, there was a problem with delivery — The Situation Room is not The Onion.

There’s also the political/media context to consider. A lot of Dems have seen the media participate in some ugly smears of Democratic presidential hopefuls, and despite his generally positive press thus far, Obama’s turn to get smacked around by objective news outlets was inevitable. Some on the right have already started to revel in the similarities between “Obama” and “Osama,” coupled by the fact that the senator’s middle name is “Hussein.” Right on the heels of this nonsense, Greenfield thought it’d be funny to compare Obama’s and Ahmadinejad’s fashion choices, playing into the notion that the Democrat has a great deal in common with our Middle Eastern foes.

Indeed, the same afternoon as Greenfield’s extended parody, CNN also ran split-screens with Obama, bin Laden, and Saddam. For those of us waiting for the media to start undermining Obama’s chances, CNN’s choice of jokes, segments, and visuals seemed to have all the subtlety of a sledgehammer. Meant in jest or not, as TNR’s Michael Crowley put it, “[O]n some level I’m sure this stuff sinks in.” Indeed, it does, and CNN should know better to play into far-right memes by going for cheap laughs.

CNN is supposed to be the real, credible news network. Maybe it’s best to leave the news parodies to the professionals?

Post Script: By the way, Greenfield’s shot at bloggers — we feel the need “to fill all that space every day, or hour, or 15 minutes” — was cheap and unnecessary. Indeed, this little incident, if anything, demonstrates the problem isn’t with bloggers filling pages, it’s with news networks filling 24/7 airtime. Did CNN so thoroughly cover every major news story on earth on Sunday that the network had time left over for jokes about Obama’s name and clothing? Please.

Jeff, he needs to have this clearly pounded into him, preferably with a two by four wielded by an ex-lineman. Don’t make stupid jokes about serious democratic candidates.

Not that -I- live by that rule 😉

  • Joke my ass. If it had really been a joke (or at least a good one) people would have been able to tell. He is just saying this to weasle out of his mess. He just just say I was wrong and go on to muck up his next story.

  • You’re right CB.There’s a whole world of news to report.

    Besides running this offensive silliness, they repeat and repeat and repeat silly stories like Kerry’s botched joke. In the past Greenfield’s piece would not have been considered a joke. Although the coverage then was a joke.

  • What, is Greenfield a wannabe Limbaugh, O’Reilly or Coulter? This is the cop-out, “it’s a joke, people!”
    Yeah, it’s not like joking about terrorists bombing the NY Times or San Francisco, or labeling your fellow countrymen as the enemy. But it’s a slippery slope, picking up the GOP memes.
    Funny though, I greatly enjoy the Rude Pundit’s blog.

  • I don’t even appreciate Greenfield’s thin attempt at humility by saying that “the problem existed with the passer.” He’s saying that he simply threw a joke over our heads and we just weren’t sophisticated enough to get it. Maybe these days everyone thinks they can be Jon Stewart or Stephen Colbert. We could use more of those guys, but it’s obvious Greenfield isn’t sophisticated enough to get their sense of humor. The Comedy Central guys simply repeat what others say and in doing so show its stupidity.

    Greenfield manufactured a smear out of the flimsiest of excuses (not wearing a tie) to link a Democrat to terrorism. Using Greenfield’s logic, anyone not wearing a tie is a terrorist. Wow, according to Jeff, almost everyone I’ve been in contact with today with al Quaeda. Such humor! Sorry Jeff, what you were engaged in is not called comedy, it’s called swiftboating. … Maybe to Jeff and his buddies that stuff is a hoot.

  • My first reaction on reading Greenfied’s respone was: He was kidding? What’s the joke? Obama dresses like the top Iranian, ha ha ha! Huh?

    They need to leave this sort of “humor” to Jeannie Moos and run it on Headline News, not on CNN’s Situation Room.

  • Send him copies of a few of the “earth tones” stories, with a choice Somerby analysis; and send him the “Nancy Pelosi strides to work in her new outfit” news story from a couple of weeks ago.

    And ask him for the stories about Republican candidates wardrobes (OK, Condileeza Rice has certainly had a few, point taken).

    The real point is that the Republicans have gotten good at attacking Democrats by: Trivialization and Ridicule. Mocking someone’s clothing or hobbies (wind-surfing?) makes them unimportant. It’s a tactic, and one which the media — with their 24/7, visual, tabloid sensibility — has abetted every step of the way.

    Obama is a serious guy. Not a heavy track record, and that’s fair criticism. Maybe hasn’t stepped up to the plate as early as he should have on some issues, also fair criticism. But — twitting him on his wardrobe is something Republican operatives do and the media gleefully prints/reports. That makes a segment like this part of the problem.

    That’s what Greenfield — whom I have always liked — it not quite getting.

  • “to fill all that space every day, or hour, or 15 minutes”
    “with news networks filling 24/7 airtime ”

    Come on, both you guys are reporting non-newsworthy events and making each others news seem important. He says Obama dresses like Ahmadinejad, you say he’s trying to link Obama to a nut via clothing, he says he was joking, you say his joke was so bad it wasn’t a joke. It’s self fulfilling news at best.

    This whole thing was not worth mentioning, but now it’s become something. This has been happening since the election, everyone is still on go-go-go mode and can’t sit back and stop reporting. No offense CB, cause I love you, but you and Greenfield are playing the same game with this lame ass story, and worse yet, is I am still reading them.

    Let’s get back to the real barn burners, like yesterdays knockout debunking of the assumptions that Dems eat their own.

    You are still my favorite, but at least admit that it has been slow. In 2004 we kind of slide back and hide for a while, now, we are all pumped up and it’s the slow season so the cracks are filled with clothing & myth stories. I’m sure you never posted like you have leading up to and post-election. Same is true for most of the liberal blogs I read, we are ready to make some changes, but the political powers are taking vacation.

  • Seems to me there was a huge uproar on the right when Dana Millbank or some other WaPo reporter showed up on a cable show in hunting clothes right after Cheney’s shooting “accident”. Even though it was meant as a joke, there were all kinds of questions raised about the reporter’s impartiality and future credibility. Greenfield should rightly be called on this and it’s to his shame and myopia that he misses the real issue here.

    I don’t understand why people who are supposed to report the “news” on a “news show” feel that it’s alright and doesn’t have any effect if they make stuff up and pass it on as a “joke”. There’s a reason why CNN is the Cable NEWS Network and Comedy Central is Comedy Central.

  • Now I don’t want none of this to come out the wrong way. But these Demmycrats what is already puttin they hopes on this junior senator from Illinois… is they out of they damn minds? Now you know the Trucker Pundit ain’t no racist. In fact, I am clearly a paragon of virtue and tolerance, bar none. But anyone who thinks that this here Barack Osama is gonna git elected Preznit is just plumb crazy. Fer one thing, there’s the issue of “race.” I mean, just what the hell kinda race is he? Is he one of them Afro-Americans? Is he one of them ay-rabs? Is he a Hispaniel? What the hell kinda name is Barack? I mean, when I was in the Navy, I lived in BARRACKS, is that the single word, for just one barrack… or “barack”? And whoever’s handlin’ this dude’s public relations needs to talk to him about his last name. It’s gonna be a long friggin’ time before anyone named OSAMA gits elected to ANYTHING in America. It’s nonsense. That’s all it is. Nonsense. Yet this here Barack Osama makes ONE trip up to New Hampshire, and the liberal communist mainstream media is all ready to declare this dude Preznit. Which ain’t gonna happen, like I said, for the reasons I mentions, and because Hilary has a … way … of “disposin'” of goomers what gits in her way… if Vince Foster has taught us anything… and because there ain’t gonna be an election no how cuz Preznit Bush Jr. is gonna declare martial law and nip this nonsense in the bud. You just wait and see, and remember where you heard it.

  • The lesson is

    What is good fro Comedy Central is not necessarily good for CNN…

    Even if this was a joke…the attempt to link Obama to an Isreali hating Dictator, a former brutal dictator, and the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks is tastelss and unneccessary..

    For example:

    Would CNN consider running a story about the Bush/King Abdullah hand holding incident:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/homepage/hp4-25-05d.jpg

    and openly wonder about Bush’s sexuality and ties to a possible terrorist financier…the answer would be a resounding NO…..

    This action by CNN looks suspiciously deliberate…….

  • When I first read about Greenfield’s little humor piece, I had to ask myself, “What is the point of this? What value does this add to an analysis of the phenomenon that presently is Barak Obama?” I concluded that Greenfield was doing what the MSM likes to do when someone emerges with popular support that they did not create, predict, or for which they have not been able to dictate the tempo. Obama has buzz that the Beltway cannot understand because it did not form from the primordial ooze of DC conventional wisdom. So, it must be debunked or back-door ridiculed and basically put “in its place.” So, since Obama did not say anything on his own to give the likes of Jeff Greenfield and place to grab on and shake until his political stuffing gets strewn from hell to breakfast, Jeff had to manufacture something. I didn’t find it humorous; it was pathetic. But, what do you expect from people who still like to play the “Dean Scream” to the accompaniment of their own (as Sommerby would say) “mordant chuckles”?

  • “Hillary has a … way … of “disposin’” of goomers what gits in her way… if Vince Foster has taught us anything…” TTP

    Vince shot himself. Not where he was found, mind you, but he shot himself.

    “…there ain’t gonna be an election no how cuz Preznit Bush Jr. is gonna declare martial law and nip this nonsense in the bud.” – TTP

    Of course, why else would he make such a big deal about America holding elections during a time of war. He’s going to let things get so bad in 2008 that he will cancel the election. That’s why he’s building concentration camps in Arizona. To keep all you “votistas” locked away while the country goes on it’s merry path…

    … to Hell.

  • Very well.

    Jeff Greenfilled is an unwashed, goat humping, crack smoker who rents his Granny to the highest bidder and regularly stomps on babies. Har har har! Jest kiddin’, I crack myself up.

    No wait, I don’t even need to go that far. I just need to point out that Jeff has the same initials as Jeff Gannon/Guckert. OoOoo, it must MEAN something.

    When the hell is anyone going to point out that the bastards that cause the most trouble all wear suits and ties?

    tAiO

    p.s. Bush rhymes with tush. It must MEAN something.

  • Poor Jeffy, his failed attempt at snark (if that’s what it was) didn’t go over well with us folks who have had to endure the bullshit his media pals have dealt out to Democratic candidates over the years, from the Al Gore smear jobs to the 700+ “dean scream” repeats (in four days) to the Swiftboat stenography to the latest slurs about Obama’s funny name.

    There’s a joke here alright, but it’s on the American people and it’s not very funny. But hey, I thought up a joke…

    A man and his son walk into a bar, and there’s a media pundit and a politician sitting at the bar. As they walk in, the two at the bar look at the man, hand him their huge bar tab, and then the politician pulls a gun and shoots the boy dead. The pundit then calmly interviews the politician, who says the kid’s death could not have been predicted, and when the father loudly objects the pundit accuses him of partisan sniping. Then the pundit notes how the father looks a lot like Saddam Hussein, since both have mustaches.

    Ha ha, that’s funny, right Jeff? I crack myself up.

    Maybe Jeffy should show us another column he has written where he made a joke but no one could tell. Or maybe he’s just lying to save his skin.

  • Guess you haven’t been watching the news on tv lately. CNN hasn’t been the real, credible news for at least a couple years now — perhaps even going back before the 2000 debacle. Certainly since about the time they removed Aaron Brown.

  • This is what a (real) “Conservative Colbert Report” would look like. The idea is funny enough …in the right context. Too bad Greenfield couldn’t wait to get his own show.

  • Oh, and it wasn’t a joke. It’s true it wasn’t meant as, say, serious criticism. No one ranting about how Obama better change his clothing to stop representing the interests of our enemies. But that doesn’t make it a joke.

    I’m with lib4. It’s an attack on the candidate. I’ve seen too much bias from CNN to think otherwise.

    Let’s see the ha-ha report comparing Giuliani to members of the Italian mafia.

  • tAiO –
    Watch what yu say about the name Bush. Remember that Whoopie Goldberg was roasted by the MSM for that type of thing. She lost endorsements & was skewered for being rude.
    But when Laura Bush joked about W jerking off a horse, a collective media yawn.
    I don’t think you have the same stature as the sainted first lady. Hell, I bet you would get in trouble for running over & killing an ex.

  • Has anybody asked Greenfield if he was the original source of this ‘joke’ (did it come from his own brain), or did he first hear it from someone else? If so, who, or at least, what is their political persuasion and background?

    And if so, was it shopped to other reporters?

  • If Greenfeild were as smart as he used to be, then he would have seen the reason for all the outrage when he considered using the following.

    In a political world where partisans routinely assume the worst about their adversaries –and where conspiracy theories stretch from Bill Clinton as a drug ring- and murder-enabler to Bush as planner of 9/11 — there’s a tendency to find malice aforethought.

    One of the partisan pushing the seamier rumors concerning Clinton was Jerry Falwell, a man that GOP presidential candidates routinely court-McCain being the latest. On the other hand, can anyone name a single Democratic king maker that has suggested that Bush was a planner of 9/11? Demonizing Democrats is accepted by the mainstream. Therefore he didn’t think his “joke” would stir up any trouble for himself. Well times they are a changing.

  • “Bill Clinton as a drug ring” – rege

    I know Bill is a big guy and is reputed to get around a lot, but really, he’s a Drug Ring all by himself? 😉

  • Cut Greenfield some slack. He’s a guy on cable news.

    In the early 1980s I was writing a comedy show for TBS. We were upstairs, CNN was downstairs. The twain never met, content-wise. Of course, that’s when journalism was still alive. Cable TV journalism died the moment Rupert Murdoch debuted Fox News.

    CNN is a psychological basket case. They still sort of remember that the network was once well-regarded. But they’ve been under heavy pressure to be more like Fox for so long, CNN doesn’t know what the hell it is anymore. Accusations of bias — in any direction — are ludicrous. Nobody at CNN has TIME to spin a day’s story. If it happens, it’s an accident. That, or ignorance. The caliber of employee there these days is, ahem, not quite the same as 20 years ago.

    Greenfield did his package as a joke and without malice, but also without journalistic ethics. But that’s the way TV news is these days. Once cable news traded bureaus and reporters for a 24/7 diet of guest talking heads, journalism left the building.

  • Well, at least Gore did not smoke crack rock. We want a president in the Whitehouse, not the crackhouse. Marion Barry could be his VP.

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