‘He answered his own questions’

It appears the president isn’t a great listener.

The entrepreneur who hosted President Bush last week for a roundtable discussion on health care and small business said yesterday that he could barely get a word in as Bush opined on children’s health insurance and other health topics.

If he had, Clifton Broumand would have told the president he disagreed with him on most of it, he said.

“He answered his own questions,” said Broumand, who gave Bush a tour of Man & Machine Inc., the Landover-based medical computer accessory company he founded 25 years ago. “I thought the whole concept was to ask us, so I was a little bit frustrated. I would have liked the opportunity to give him my viewpoint, rather than him knowing the answer.”

Mr. Broumand apparently was under the impression that the president, when he said he was anxious to hear a variety of viewpoints, was actually anxious to hear a variety of viewpoints.

The White House’s response struck me as amusing.

Tony Fratto, a White House spokesman, said the fact that Broumand disagrees with the president shows that the administration does not stack Bush’s public events with partisans.

See? Bush was in the same room with someone who didn’t agree with him on something. Sure, the president wouldn’t listen to what the man had to say, but shouldn’t Bush be congratulated for his bold tolerance for dissent and competing ideas?

For what it’s worth, the president probably needed to hear what Broumand wanted to tell him.

For Broumand, a Democrat who did not vote for Bush, expanding the insurance program for children is a no-brainer. More than 8 million children lack health insurance, according to the Census Bureau. Without coverage, Broumand said, they are less likely to get preventive care and more likely to need expensive emergency room visits, with the costs absorbed by consumers.

“My personal feeling is that the plan should be to cover every child, whether it’s private or federal,” he said. “When you don’t cover children, what ends up happening is that when kids are sick, which happens in my office, parents aren’t productive. They have to go home.”

Broumand said he is not in favor of a government-run health system. But he is no fan of insurance companies either. The plan he offers to his 28 employees costs $300 a month for individuals and $800 for family coverage. The business pays $5,600 a month for health insurance — more than it spends on rent — and premiums have increased 73 percent since 2003, he said.

Private insurers “are like the Godfather — they make you an offer you can’t refuse,” Broumand said. “When my insurance goes up 73 percent in four years, that’s a tax. . . . All these things are hidden taxes.”

Since 45 million Americans lack insurance, there already is “de facto” rationing, he argued.

It’s a shame Bush prefers to “answer his own questions”; I would have liked to hear him respond to Broumand’s.

” ‘He answered his own questions,’ said Broumand …. ‘I thought the whole concept was to ask us, so I was a little bit frustrated. I would have liked the opportunity to give him my viewpoint, rather than him knowing the answer.’ ”

How naive can someone be after the last six years? If and when Bush wants your opinion, he’ll tell you what it is.

Almost any general can confirm this.

  • …that’s a tax. . . . All these things are hidden taxes.

    That’s the only way to get the republicans concerned about it. Call it a tax. Better yet, call it the sick tax.

  • What N. Wells said. Sheesh.

    I wonder if Broumand thought the intensive security/cavity checks before the pResidential visit were a little unusual.

  • GWB says he’s going to veto the Child Health Care re-authorization bill.

    I am overwhelmed with rage and frustration. The admin has walled itself up behind ‘executive priveledge’ and the Gonzales department won’t prosecute anything that GWB et al doesn’t want prosecuted. There is no longer a special prosecutor law.

    By simple stonewalling and refusing to abide by constitutional law the Congress is left with exactly two options: cut off the money and impeachment. Our Democratic Congress has not got the balls to perform it’s constitutionally MANDATED DUTY.

    We’re fucked.

  • “…he could barely get a word in as Bush opined on children’s health insurance and other health topics.”

    Wouldn’t you you just love to tell this self-absorbed ass, “hey, shut your piehole and listen!!”?

  • Tony Fratto, a White House spokesman, said the fact that Broumand disagrees with the president shows that the administration does not stack Bush’s public events with partisans.

    See? Bush was in the same room with someone who didn’t agree with him on something. Sure, the president wouldn’t listen to what the man had to say, but shouldn’t Bush be congratulated for his bold tolerance for dissent and competing ideas?

    Ha ha ha. It’s hilarious, our foremost public servant is a joke.

  • I think Rumsfeld taught him that – I used to hate to watch or listen to Rumsfeld, because he never gave the media an opportunity to ask questions – he’d ask them and answer them, and then skedaddle, leaving those who wanted to ask something or follow up just standing there with their mouths open; I think he even did that in a couple Congressional hearings…

    Bush has no interest in listening, especially to people with actual expertise who don’t work for him. He can tell us he listens to the military and to Cabinet officials, and none of them are going to say otherwise – but people from the private sector? He can’t take the chance.

    It’s all about the show for Bush – all about the photo op and the sound bite – the salute getting on Marine One, the wave from the steps of Air Force One. But there’s no substance – it’s all façade, all charade. He can only attend events with “friendly” audiences lest he be confronted with the fact that a lot of people don’t like him. It may be to the point where they have to use those fake cardboard crowds like they do in movies for lack of real people who want to be in the same room.

    How can this man actually be the president? How could anyone with a reasonable number of brain cells actually believe this man is qualified to be the president?

    (Is it 2009 yet?)

  • “How could anyone with a reasonable number of brain cells actually believe this man is qualified to be the president?”

    well, anne, i think you just answered your own question……..

  • Any time Bush is questioned, he tells us what he “believes” and how firmly he believes in his beliefs. Since belief tells him what he needs to know there’s no reason to listen to anyone else. He already knows.

  • Anne is right, Bush just does the “Rummy Shuffle”; Ask a bunch of questions no one wants to know, answer them in the most blatantly dishonest way possible, and then skedaddle. She also asks a good question: “…How can this man actually be the president? How could anyone with a reasonable number of brain cells actually believe this man is qualified to be the president?

    A: Because the media didn’t do it’s job. And they’re even worse now than they were in 2000, so we need to be ready to do their jobs for them.

  • Hey, during the campaign they threw people out of the auditoriums just for having the wrong bumper sticker, so the fact that this guy got to stay in the magnificent presence of Dear Leader George W. Bush really is a sign of progress and tolerance.

    Why Broumand thought Bush would listen to anything but the voices in his head he calls “God”, and Dick Cheney, I have no idea.

  • Did Bush use Hurricane Katrina as an example as to why Big Government shouldn’t be in charge of health care?

  • 2Manchu–No, that was Mittler. (I’m taking his advice to “lighten up.” Funny, huh?) Unless Bush did it too.

    The Dems have to jam this down Bush’s throat. If his congressional enablers want to go down with the sinking ship in a fight against INSURING CHILDREN (who are the cheapest people to cover, btw; if they want to save money, look at the seniors), then we should bid them bon fucking voyage.

    They need to take away the keys and give this 61 year old problem child an eighteen-month Time Out, until we’re rid of him and he can go drink himself to an early death at Rancho Plastico.

  • So they let a dissenter stay in the same room with W, that still doesn’t answer the accusation that W didn’t listen to him, does it? They always twist the question just a little to give a favorable answer…

  • The person who cannot listen to an expert’s opinion and has to prove himself by answering his own questions is very insecure about his knowledge and abilities.

    — Another demonstration of the low mutterings of a delusional bat.

  • We are only fucked if we sit back and let the congress avoid impeachment of Bush/Cheney. These people believe they rule, they act and speak their lies without end. How much more evidence does Congress or the people need.
    The Bush/Cheney/Gonzales team has to go. Call your congress people and demand impeachment as many of us are doing. A good website on the subject is:
    www,afterdowningstreet.org

  • Hey Anne***This man is the president in name only. As Cheney said about doing the dreary tasks expected of the position of Vice president….”The president and I have an agreement”. Cheney’s personality makes one want to throw him out of the house but put Bush’s face on him and he gets away with murder…or at least shooting people in the face.

    Bush is back and forth with drugs and alcohol as most AA members could tell ya, but all he really has to do is show up and look presidential, Cheney and others take it from there. Thinking “how could this man be president?”…because he’s really not, he just plays one for the press. Bush and Cheney have an “agreement”.

  • It appears the president isn’t a great listener. — CB

    Think Progress has a great clip from Jon Stewart’s Daily Show about all the things the president (and his merry gang of bandits) is not (also a couple of things he is). All from the mouths of the people in questions. With this malAdmin, Jon must have the easiest job on earth, as a comedian; no need to write anything at all, all you need is a camera and a recorder…

  • I’m not sure Clinton went after Obama. It appears from Greg Sargent’s take that Obama may have struck first – http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jul/24/anatomy_of_the_brawl_versus_hillary_and_obama. From that post –

    ________

    One key point: When Hillary denounced Obama today as “naive” over their difference last night, this reading of what Obama said seems way overstated, as Matthew Yglesias argues. It drifts into at least the vicinity of Pelosi-to-Syria La-La Land.

    But while Hillary did draw the contrast between them first last night, it should be noted that the Obama camp also escalated matters early today with a memo hitting Hillary for having “reversed” herself since April.

    This hit, which came before Hillary’s “naive” comment, is a bit of a Drudgy attack — indeed, Drudge has for many hours now been flacking the same alleged contradiction the Obama people pushed this morning.

    So Obama’s no wallflower here. Nor should he be; these guys should be arguing with each other.
    ____________

    So it looks like Obama issued a memo calling out Clinton who then returned with a memo of her own and calling him naive. Personally, it seems to me that they are both deliberately misunderstanding what the other is saying. I don’t think Clinton reversed herself and I don’t think Obama would necessarily go jetting off to North Korea. Having said that, while I hate the idea of Dems tearing each other down, a few elbows is a welcome sight. You can bet whoever the nominee is will be hit with everything the GOP has got and I’m very interested in seeing how tough (and smart) the candidates are in flaps like this.

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