He was against negotiations before he was for them

I can appreciate the multi-faceted, complex foreign policy challenge posed by Iran, and yesterday’s announcement about qualified negations is multi-layered. Did the administration attach conditions that officials expected the Iranians to reject? Is there a power struggle between Cheney and Rice? Will the U.S. stick with European negotiators, or take Germany’s advice and talk to Iran one-on-one? Will security guarantees be on the table? Is this move towards the negotiating table more about influencing China and Russia than it is Iran?

Important questions, all. But I have a slightly less important concern: Bush isn’t getting nearly enough flack today for a world-class flip-flop.

The White House has said for years that it wouldn’t talk to Iran. Not with the E3, not alone, not through intermediaries, not at all. When John Kerry suggested that Iran was getting more dangerous, not less, through the Bush approach, and said it was time to start talks, Republicans howled that this was proof that Kerry was weak on national security. “Talk to the Iranians?” they scoffed. “That’s rewarding bad behavior!”

In August 2004, then-Undersecretary for Arms Control and International Security John Bolton told the Hudson Institute, “Iran’s actions and statements do not bode well for the success of a negotiated approach to dealing with this issue.” Around the same time, Condoleezza Rice told Fox News, “This regime has to be isolated in its bad behavior, not quote-unquote ‘engaged.'”

Obviously, that’s no longer operative.

After 27 years in which the United States has refused substantive talks with Iran, President Bush reversed course on Wednesday because it was made clear to him — by his allies, by the Russians, by the Chinese, and eventually by some of his advisers — that he no longer had a choice.

During the past month, according to European officials and some current and former members of the Bush administration, it became obvious to Mr. Bush that he could not hope to hold together a fractious coalition of nations to enforce sanctions — or consider military strikes on Iranian nuclear sites — unless he first showed a willingness to engage Iran’s leadership directly over its nuclear program and exhaust every nonmilitary option.

Just to clarify, I’m glad Bush “reversed course.” His Iranian “policy,” if you can call it that, has been ineffective to the point of recklessness. I’m not sure how sincere the administration’s new-found commitment to negotiations are, but I’m glad they’ve come around.

I just want the flip-flop recognized.

Yes, maybe this is petty. But we’re talking about the “biggest foreign policy shift” of the Bush presidency. He swore up and down that we wouldn’t — we couldn’t — sit at the table with Iran. Now, we’re witnessing a “historic about-face.”

It’s the funny thing about flip-flops. When someone (particularly Bush) goes from a bad policy to a better policy, even if they’re mirror opposites, the political world seems so happy to see the White House come to its senses that it doesn’t much matter when Bush, whose disdain for policy reversals is practically set in stone, does a complete U-turn.

Indeed, if Bush and his allies hadn’t much such a big deal for the past five-plus years about never changing course, never yielding to diplomatic realities, never re-examining foreign policy towards an “axis of evil” country, then a change in direction now wouldn’t seem like such a big deal. Kerry, they said, couldn’t be counted on to pick a policy and stick with it.

With that in mind, who’s on both sides of the issue now?

Dan Drezner has a few interesting thoughts on this about-face as well:


Will Iran and the United States talk?

  • If Kerry (or Clinton, or Gore) had flip-flopped on Iran, it’d be the lead on Fox News for days.

  • This isn’t really about talks, the U>s> has already set requirements that Iran will refuse to meet. This is about being able to say “See, we tried to talk, but them bad old Iranians wouldn’t come to the table.” Then we go to war.

  • It’s important to praise a baby for good behavior, not chide him for past poor behavior.

  • In this case I don’t care if he flips, flops, spins, hops or rotates if it means we don’t start another war.

  • I seriously doubt that this is a case of the administration having a change of heart, and has a lot to do with the current state the US military.

  • I agree with Dave.

    The conditions for the talks are the same conditions that the administration has set in every other communication with Iran: stop enriching uranium and prove it. The Iranians will reject these conditions once again, and then, as Dave said, the Bush administration will say that diplomacy failed again.

    I hope that we don’t go to war against Iran, but I think that it’s going to take someone getting Iran to drop its nuclear program. I don’t see that happening anytime soon.

    About the Bush flip-flop, it’s true that if this had been Bill Clinton or John Kerry or Harry Reid or Nancy Pelosi, the Republicans would have been pointing to the “offender” and accusing him or her of not having a firm policy on the issue at hand. If anyone is going to point out that Bush has flip-flopped on this isuue, it would be best if it were a Republican. That won’t happen. Oh, well.

    Out West

  • Iran is about more than Nuclear weapons. It’s about something much more important- oil. Let’s face it. Wars have been waged since the beginning of history over natural resources, and oil is central to the modern world- not only in your gas tank, but also in your tupperware. Iran has been playing a blackmail operation against us (do anything- sanctions, war, whatever- and we knock the price of oil up over $100 a barrel, and see what that does to your economy).

    So the question is, can the premier country on the planet afford to let itself be seen to be blackmailed by a third-rate theocratical government? Certainly not without losing a lot of influence in the world- and that is not beneficial to any of us.

    So, war in Iran may be inevitable, and should be inevitable, unless they are willing to make serious concessions which reflect their understanding that we are a superior nation. Anything else only invites the next despot to make, perhaps, a more dangerous and less predictable stand against us. And the results of a match-up like that could be far worse.

  • Somehow I’m not surprised that the White House is being criticized for hypocrisy by the people who truly give meaning to the word. If Bush had not responded to the utterly nonsensical, puerile epistle written in crayon by Ahmadinejad, the left would have criticized him for being aloof and nonresposive to the first contact the two nations have had in 27 years. Naturally leftists won’t admit it, but it’s a fact. His short, sweet response accompanied by necessary conditions was the right thing to do. Six two and even the left will be demanding that he drop the conditions and meet with this nut anyway almost by the time this has been posted. If the left wants to criticize Bush, I’ll be happy to join in on a number of issues. Amnesty for illegal aliens will be among the first. But for a group that gladly kills babies while claiming it to be cruel and unusual punishment for murderers–maybe you should rethink charges of hypocrisy.

  • last saturday, while listening to Laura Flanders on AirAmericaRadio, she aired “an on the ground report from Iraqi journalist AYUB NURI”… he said the news of talks between US and IRAN could be “ominous”… that the US could put up such high demands, then say “well, see, we tried” and use that excuse to attack… shades of iraq…

  • Well, it wasn’t totally ignored: It was the NY Times’ leading storey in today’s edition.

    Just like Clinton with Milosevic, Bush is making an “offer” to the Iranians that he knows damned good and well they’ll refuse.

  • I’ve always been amused at the “we can’t negotiate with Iran” chorus. What really is the grounds for this contention?

    Charles Krautheimer says that the Iranian regime is about to collapse and we would be propping it up by direct negotiations. How does he know that regime is about to collapse? Is he listening to Iranian exiles, like Bush listened to Iraqi exiles before the war? Why does he think that talking to a regime props it up?

    Then there are those who say that the Iranian regime would be legitimized by diplomatic contact with America. A rather strange argument to make, when we recognize Libya and the dictator there, but not the president of Iran who was elected, though with strict limitations to political access. But than, Egypt has strict limitations to political access, and we recognize the Mubarek regime and others like it.

    Then there is the hostage taking. An intolerable act, no question. But as Reagan and Bush I did not see fit to start a war about it, but rather to negotiate the hostages release, it seems absurd to hold that out as if we were going to start a war NOW.

    After that, there is the killing of the Marines in Beruit. Iran’s complicity on that is pretty much established. But again, Reagan and Bush I did nothing about it. Is holding out direct negotiations the ‘penalty’ we are going to impose on Iran for that? We should have gone to war with them in the 1980’s, while we still had a large enough army, or not at all.

    But I think the real reason, not the excuses, is that we are allied to the Sunni regimes of the Gulf and are taking direction from them on how to treat with Shite Iran. I suspect our foreign policy is dictated by the House of Saud and our dependence on THEIR oil and surge capacity.

  • I hate to quibble, but hate even more the deterioration of language. And,

    “Bush isn’t getting nearly enough flack today for a world-class flip-flop” would seem to reflect that Bush doesn’t receive sufficient publicity consultants. He probably does.

    However, if as was probably intended, he doesn’t get “peppered” (to borrow a phrase from over-rich Texan dove-hunters) with adequate verbal shrapnel from imaginary anti-aircraft fire, then I’d agree.

  • Could we have another Andy Pratt fan on this board??

    He’s the MAN! I love Andy!! (“Avenging Angel” is one of his best songs!) Maybe you can see I am a fan of the Alan Bown Set myself…

    Check out my latest take on the Iran thing…

    HINT: There is no flip-flop involved.

    And while we’re at it, can we stop demonizing the flip-flop? If a policy-maker changes his or her mind, at least theroretically based on some sort of intellectual revelation, is that really so bad?

  • Hardly a flip flop, when you send 2 warships to add to the one already there in the Persian Gulf and have Black Op markers on the ground in Iran sending coordinates for bombing to satellites.

    The talks are being held just so they can say they made the effort.

    Unfortunately for the Iranian’s haggling which is their nature, will cause a very bad situation I fear.

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