High-dollar Clinton donors threaten Pelosi over delegate flap

Last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters that she believed the presidential candidate with the most pledged delegates should be the Democratic nominee. Pelosi added that the party would likely be damaged if “superdelegates overturn what happened in the elections.”

It was noteworthy, in part because Pelosi has remained neutral in the Clinton-Obama competition, but the Speaker’s opinion was hardly shocking — most Dems seem to believe the candidate who does the best in the nation’s primaries and caucuses should get the party’s nod.

But that didn’t stop 20 high-dollar Clinton donors from getting together to push back rather aggressively against the Speaker’s remarks.

Angered that Pelosi wants Democratic insiders to follow the will of voters when they cast their own “superdelegate” votes in the nomination race, 20 of Clinton’s top fund-raisers issued a veiled threat to Pelosi and warned her to change her tune.

“We have been strong supporters of the [Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee],” they wrote, referring to the House fund-raising arm overseen by Pelosi. “We therefore urge you to clarify your position on superdelegates and reflect in your comments a more open view.”

Sources said Pelosi was infuriated by the implied threat the donors would quit giving cash to the committee.

Greg Sargent obtained and posted the letter in its entirety.

Pelosi, apparently, was unmoved by the tactic, and according to her spokesperson, continues to believe that superdelegates should respect “the decisions of millions of Americans who have voted.”

But the implications of such a letter being sent in the first place are worth considering.

Right off the bat, it’s hard not to see this as the kind of hardball move that divides the party and exacerbates tensions. To be sure, major Democratic donors, just like everybody else, have a right to share their concerns with party leaders, but that’s not what this letter was all about. This was an intimidation tactic — wealthy contributors didn’t like the Speaker endorsing the importance of pledged delegates, and they strongly recommended she keep her mouth shut. If not, their donations might dry up.

One veteran Dem called the letter “terrible,” adding, “[Clinton] looks desperate. There is no way they should have threatened to do this.”

Secondly, Joe Sunbay noted that the donors’ letter included this sentence: “We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates” at the convention. Sunbay makes the case that these wealthy contributors seem to be arguing, based on the “each of the delegates” line, that Pelosi publicly say that all delegates, including pledged delegates, should be free to vote without regard for primary/caucus results.

For what it’s worth, the Obama campaign called the letter “inappropriate,” and urged the Clinton campaign to “reject the insinuation contained in it.” That isn’t going to happen — Clinton aides responded to questions by reemphasizing their belief that superdelegates should “exercise independent judgment.”

Ultimately, I think Oliver Willis gets this just right: “[The rich donors] have every right to add their voice to the chorus supporting Sen. Clinton, but they have no place, no standing, no right to order the Speaker around.”

Excuse me, have you heard the Obama surrogate Bill Bradley threatening to run primary opponents against any superdelegate who doesn’t vote for Senator Obama?

Twice.

But it’s not the same, I suppose.

  • Are these people really that important, especially in light of the newly-proven small-donations-from-many method of fund-raising? And if they are that important, shouldn’t that concern all of us (regardless of who they are supporting)?

  • Don’t like it? Fine, keep your money. Obama can snap his fingers and render these rich Clinton backers obsolete.

  • Don’t like it? Fine, keep your money. Obama can snap his fingers and render these rich Clinton backers obsolete.

    That was my reaction exactly. Didn’t Obama beat Clinton’s fundraising efforts by something like $55m to $35m? He’s not exactly hurting without you people, and all you’re doing is removing your own access to the party.

    Fine by me. Take Mark Penn and Terry McAulliffe with you when you leave.

  • Wow , I knew politicians were sleazy but these internets have really allowed us to see the true depths of the assholery .

  • “high-dollar Clinton donors” is exactly what’s wrong and distasteful about this campaign.

    Barack Obama has managed without them. So should the Party. Obama’s not for sale. Apparently the Clintons are. Obama’s approach seems to be working (he beats McAin’t), she doesn’t (McAin’t beats her).

    BIF! KA-POW! Good-bye, Hillary.

  • The rules are simple, superdelegates are free to vote however they choose and are NOT bound by the voters. If this were not true, then John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and Bill Richardson had better switch their support to Clinton!

    Pelosi was saying that the rules don’t matter, clearly Obama has shown that he intends to play by the rules as shown by his own supporters who chose as they saw fit, and he also played by the rules when he chose not to compromise over re-votes in Michigan.

    The rules are the rules, and nobody advocates this more than Obama, at least when those rules benefit him anyhow.

  • Lance (1) Excuse me, have you heard the Obama surrogate Bill Bradley threatening to run primary opponents against any superdelegate who doesn’t vote for Senator Obama?

    At least that would be an issue for the voters to decide, and his words do not reflect a coordinated effort. The Hillary cabal is trying to take the voters out of the equasion. They also organized to threaten the DNC to seat Florida voters. Absolutely not the same.

  • Got a link there Lance?

    Somehow I doubt if Bradley actually did what you allege. I can believe that he would help run primary opponents against any super who voted against the people of his district/region, but that would be quite a bit different from running primary opponents against anyone who voted for Clinton. If he did do as you say then he was out of line. If not, then you are.

    But of course you know that. So let’s see the link.

  • Obama can snap his fingers and render these rich Clinton backers obsolete.

    Exactly.

    Hence the long knives.

  • I found this article, which said that Bradley “warned” that that “superdelegates who ignore their constituents may face tough battles in future elections. That’s not exactly threatening to run primary opponents against any superdelegate who fails to vote for Obama. Maybe he said something more specific elsewhere, but I don’t think Bill Bradley has a flying wedge of opponents to deploy instantly against superdelegates he doesn’t like.

    http://www.newser.com/story/21739.html

  • The most amusing thing about the letter is that they grab the moral high-ground by noting the millions of voters yet to vote in multiple contests:

    Several states and millions of Democratic voters have not yet had a chance to cast their votes.

    We respect those voters and believe that they, like the voters in the states that have already participated, have a right to be heard. None of us should make declarative statements that diminish the importance of their voices and their votes

    Translation: Every voice must be head!!

    And then, of course, after we’ve waited for those voices to be heard…we must overrule those voices!!!

    During your appearance, you suggested super-delegates have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd , whether that lead be by 500 delegates or 2. This is an untenable position that runs counter to the party’s intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984

    For people who seem good at raising money, they shore do seem bad at “thinking”.

    BTW, no coordinated effort by Obama (yet…I imagine it’d happen in the general), but ActBlue is already trying to give a hearty “F you!” to these guys

  • I think increasingly super-delegates are going to go with Barack Obama, particularly in districts that he won substantially.

    I don’t think you’re going to find congressmen, even congresspeople that are behind Hillary early, go against their district, because if they go against their district, they’re going to find that they could very well have a primary challenge the next time. – Bill Bradley

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/jan-june08/demdiscuss_03-05.html

    This is the link you wanted as proof for what Lance said, happy?

  • “Rodham Hood and her Thuggish Band of Extortionists.” And they are:

    Marc Aronchick

    Clarence Avant

    Susie Tompkins Buell

    Sim Farar

    Robert L. Johnson

    Chris Korge

    Marc and Cathy Lasry

    Hassan Nemazee

    Alan and Susan Patricof

    JB Pritzker

    Amy Rao

    Lynn de Rothschild

    Haim Saban

    Bernard Schwartz

    Stanley S. Shuman

    Jay Snyder

    Maureen White and Steven Rattner

    Everyone—pick a name, find out who they are what businesses they own…and boycott them back into the Ice Age.

    Sorry, all you Hillistines—but you know what they say about payback—and vengeance, it is rumored, is a dish best served cold.

    Pushback. Pushback. Pushback.

  • The gentleman (“Lance”) who asserted that Bill Bradley was “threatening to run primary opponents against any superdelegate who doesn’t vote for Senator Obama,” is imprecise to the point of simply being in error. In an interview with Jim Lehrer, Bradley was explaining why he believes it will be impossible for HRC to overtake Obama in pledged delegates; i.e. Bradley said he thought members of Congress would vote the way their districts had voted so as to avoid primary challenges. Bradley didn’t mention the racial angle, but the implication was that in these majority African-American districts that Obama carried 3-1 the incumbent Democrat would be reluctant to ignore that outcome…Here’s the link. [http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/white_house/jan-june08/demdiscuss_03-05.html] No fair reading of these remarks would produce the conclusion that it was any kind of threat at all.

  • This comment was posted at the TPM Cafe:

    I am personally acquainted with two of the signatories of this attempt at blackmail. I respect both of them for their career success and I appreciate their support for the Democratic Party over many years; but I know their complaint has more to do with their own expectations of rewards in an HRC administration. One is hoping to be Secretary of the Treasury and another Ambassador to the UK in a HRC administration. Chelsea actually works for one of them. I can hardly imagine the distress they feel as these entitlements slip away. Their sense of personal loss has certainly blinded them to the damage she is doing now to the Party they have supported for so long.

    Marc Freed
    Wall Street economist

  • I’m starting to think this whole deal is going to be very good for the Democratic party in the long run. It’s scary now, but it really does seem to be crystallizing a lot of the problems the party has had for the past 15-20 years and, more importantly, we’re finally able to put names and faces to these problems. The level of animositysome of these people have earned is both huge and entirely deserved, Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson in particular. Then toss in these big money people implicity, and not so subtly, demanding to overthrow the will of the voters, and you’ve got a mess, but at least it’s nice for everyone to know the roots of the problem.

    Definitely seems to be energizing the grassroots in a way that nothing else really could. I’ve volunteered quite a bit over the past few election cycles, but haven’t really had the cash to donate much at all. This year I’ve volunteered a great deal more already and have given a good chunk of change to the Obama campaign and now to the DCCC in response to this crap. Nice and cathartic, if nothing else.

  • HORRIBLE misquote from a Jim Lehrer interview.
    Deliberate smear by a Clinton supporter?

    From:
    http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2999

    And I think increasingly super-delegates are going to go with Barack Obama, particularly in districts that he won substantially.

    I don’t think you’re going to find congressmen, even congresspeople that are behind Hillary early, go against their district, because if they go against their district, they’re going to find that they could very well have a primary challenge the next time.,

    The context changes everything. He’s speculating about a very plausible outcome triggered by deliberate defiance of public will. Not terribly controversial.

  • Obama’s contributions are very impressive. However, you have to take into account that the majority of these contributions were small donors, That may not be the case in the White House when he will have to make tough decisions on which of his campaign promises he chooses to keep or if he has to raise taxes(very likely). However he probably will be okay.

    Pelosi and the other democrats do not have the any near the amount of small donors(as far as I know) so losing the big elephants is MUCH BIGGER for them.

  • “On March 27th, 2008 at 9:26 am, Lance said:
    Excuse me, have you heard the Obama surrogate Bill Bradley threatening to run primary opponents against any superdelegate who doesn’t vote for Senator Obama?

    Twice.

    But it’s not the same, I suppose.”

    No, Lance, it’s not the same. In one case (Bradley’s), the “threat” is to impose a little democractic discipline on those Congressperson’s who might be considering a vote against the wishes of their constituencies – the very essence of democracy. In the other case, the threat is to deny the Party money if its elected representatives take the will of the people too seriously – about as UN-democratic a posture as one can take.

  • If the supers and these moneyed jerks want to guarantee that some of their voters will NEVER vote DEM again, hand the election to the person who didn’t get the popular vote. Of course, you couldn’t get me to vote Clinton if you put a gun to my head anyway, but this would guarantee that my vote and my money will leave the party forever. This is one Dem who believes in government by the people and for the people, not by the party elite and for rich jackasses.

  • According to a Gallup Poll Among people who identified themselves as Hillary Clinton supporters, 28 percent said they would vote for McCain if Obama is his opponent, the March 7-22 Gallup Poll Daily election tracking survey found.
    Whereas 19 percent of Obama supporters claimed they would vote for McCain if Hillary is the nominee.

    I find that hard to believe. I would have expected those to numbers to be reversed because of
    the independent voters who voted for Obama but whats with those 28 percent of Hillarys supporters
    claiming to switch to McCain?
    Are they kiss’in cousins to the 27% who’ve been loyal to Bush no matter what his transgressions.

  • Hillary and Bill Clinton will do anything to win even lie and that is something she is very good at. She does not deserve blind allegiance.

  • The signatories are using their only weapon and trying to maximize what they can get. Trouble is, if they don’t get their way they will show how irrelevant they are, so it’s an all-in gamble. Netroots fundraising and its broadening of the contributor base over the last two years would seem to indicate these major contributors could be replaced without a lot of trouble. And their money may come with strings attached that fund parasites like Penn & co, so disruption of that channel could be a -good- thing.

  • The Clintons have begun to bare their teeth, and their smiles ain’t pretty. In fact, they seem to be using their chompers to gnaw at a Democratic victory in November. Yes, Hillary seems to be snatching defeat from the jaws of victory with her snarls these days! -Kevo

  • @27

    Skewered: it shouldn’t be surprising. Clinton has been consistently telling her supporters for quite awhile now that Obama is too inexperienced to be President, he has no accomplishments and won’t be able to get anything done, he doesn’t pass the Commander-in-Chief threshold, there are all sorts of boogy-men around that unvetted corner…and boy, isn’t that John McCain just great? He was, like, in the military and stuff, and he sure does love his country!!!

    The fact that it’s less than 1 out of 3 of her supporters who actually buy that crap just goes to show how little her approach resonates even with her backers. It is sad though, that she’s actively undermining the presumptive Democratic nominee.

    And we should all be calling Obama that, because that’s what he is.

  • It must suck to be one of twenty “high dollar” Clinton donors and to see such large dollar amounts going to waste in the face of over two million unique Obama donors. It’s almost like a real democracy or something, and those twenty people who thought they controlled the party are understandably outraged.

    I’ve gradually transitioned from more or less neutral to being more or less pro-Obama (or anti-Hillary, really, since my trajectory has been largely informed by her actions rather than his). This bit of news only confirms that Obama’s candidacy is a very, very good thing for the party and for the country. Twenty millionaires threatening the speaker of the house, indeed. For shame.

  • This is a wake-up call for all of us. We need to take our country back from the rich donors and lobbyists (on both sides of the aisle) who have hijacked it.

    There’s no excuse for the level of clout that the Club for Growth people and people like Richard Mellon Scaife have on our govt.

    Seriously folks, we need to figure out how to do this or the “will of the people” will become nothing but an empty slogan.

  • Always hopeful says: There’s no excuse for the level of clout that the Club for Growth people and people like Richard Mellon Scaife have on our govt.

    Now, now, don’t go dissing Hillary’s new BFF. 🙂

    This is a wake-up call for all of us. We need to take our country back from the rich donors and lobbyists (on both sides of the aisle) who have hijacked it.

    Yep. And don’t believe for a second that those people will let us take our country back without putting up a fight. The way the money people like Scaife have coddled up to Hillary shows how well they know who their real enemy is.

    It’s us.

  • I posted about this at swimming freestyle
    Excerpt:
    “Doesn’t this add a whole new dimension to the Clinton’s campaign’s efforts to woo superdelegates? So far, Clinton’s argument why she’s the best candidate has been all about electability, but here you have twenty big time Democratic Party fundraisers saying, in essence, back off with all this pledged delegate talk or no more money.

    There’s a name for this….”
    (http://swimmingfreestyle.typepad.com)

  • What was it that Carville said about Richardson the other day? That he’s somehow “Judas” for betraying Clinton? What does it say about this handful of weathy Dems, if they’re willing to betray the whole party in exchange for getting what they want?

    They’re the moneychanters in the temple?

    The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that this is a fight the party really needs to have. It’s unfortunate that it had to happen now during a presidential primary, but this is when the stakes are highest, so of course it’s the only time it could happen.

    When Pelosi and Co. start getting threats and forced to choose between the big-money backers of a campaign with $3 million on hand and the massive amounts of small donors supporting a campaign with $35 million on hand, I don’t think the choices are really going to be all that difficult. It’s one of those happy coincidences of self-interest and doing what’s right. The grassroots not only delivers massive amounts of money but also plenty of volunteers for campaigning and GOTV, so there’s every reason to lean in that direction for anyone thinking of the long-term.

    It’ll be ugly, but I’m guessing the people who would put their names on a letter like this are probably people that most of the leadership can’t stand anyway.

  • Instead of threatening Pelosi to take their pocketbooks and go home if our nominee isn’t the lady who will throw them the most cookies from the White House, perhaps these high rollers should be donating to the Clinton campaign. She’s in the red…again.

  • Someone feels their power ebbing away, and they don’t like it. Coltrane said it all in comment two. The power of the small donation from many people has reduced these people to nothing more than well manicured blowhards. They made a bad investment.

    And Greg, Lance, how is suggesting the possibility of primary challengers for superdelegates who don’t represent their constituency adequately in any way similar? You’re reaching hard.

    I think that’s pretty much a cornerstone of our democracy. Don’t like the bums? Vote ’em out.

  • One veteran Dem called the letter “terrible,” adding, “[Clinton] looks desperate. There is no way they should have threatened to do this.”

    This is, again, further proof – along with everything else she had done – that the campaign has lost its moral center as it has been both out-thought and our-fought. She really is just hanging on the ropes, no matter what it looks like.

    As to what a bunch of super-contributers who are maxed out and are likely maxed out in their donations to other races already have to say, I say their day is over, as the Obama fund-raising operation has demonstrated. The worst part of politics to me was always having to pander to these over-privileged sons of bitches (and daughters of bitches), most of whom had the political brains of idiots (though they were convinced of their genius), so if we can now get away from them with the internet and real grass-roots politics I say tell them to go do the world a favor and drop dead so we can get their estate taxes.

  • I’m an Obama supporter, but I don’t think people should fault Hillary for this. We have no idea whether these meddling donors have anything to do with her. For all the people complaining that Obama shouldn’t be held accountable for his minister’s wacky preaching, please don’t hold Hillary responsible for this foolishness. Keep the peace, and lay off Ms. Clinton. We’re going to need her help to win general election.

    Sure, this stuff is outrageous and despicable. After all, these donors could do what everyone else is doing: go out and talk in public and use persuasion and logic to try to further their cause. Donations with strings attached are not donations at all, they are fees paid to purchase influence. Give them their money back.

  • JTS, I find it hard to believe that these mega-donors would act collectively in signing a letter without any kind of involvement or at least awareness from the Clinton campaign. These are multi-millionaires, and some of Hillary’s main supporters. Twenty of them got together and decided to threaten the speaker of the house and coordinated the letter writing and delivery… without anyone in Clinton’s camp being aware of it?

    If that really is the case, then it further disqualifies her from the Presidency in my eyes. It’s a totally different dynamic than the stupid Wright thing — I would not expect Wright to seek or get Obama’s approval for the content of his sermons as a minister. I would, however, expect Hillary to have some control over or at least awareness of what her biggest donors are doing.

  • Manny from Miami, @25, has it *precisely right* (for once ). All of you who’re saying “well Obama has 2 million donors and 35 mil in the bank; those fat cats can stuff it” are *missing the point*.

    We need more than a Dem in the White House; we need a Dem majority in both houses of Congress as well. Probably more, in case the supers lose their collective mind, nominate Clinton and McCain wins in a landslide.

    But… How many of those small time Obama donors have been also contributing to Dean’s 50state strategy (DNC, where the fat cats are demaning the return of their money)? How many are contributing to DCCC (Pelosi’s bailiwick)? How many are contributing to the DSCC (if Reid comes out for Obama, he’s probably gonna get a blackmailing letter of his own)?

    The fat cats can’t touch *Obama’s* fundraising but they could put a serious dent in everyone else’s. That’s what the threat in the letter implies. Whether we can push back on *all* those fronts is somewhat questionable, especially in the current economy. There’s a reason all those Obama donations are *small* — he has a broad support of “little people”, who’ve already dug as deep as they can and aren’t likely to have anything to spare for anything else.

    So yes, it is a serious threat. It is also disgusting and on a par with everything else Clinton’s “fellow travellers” have been doing.

    […] perhaps these high rollers should be donating to the Clinton campaign. She’s in the red…again. — Maria, @43

    My guess is that all the fat cats have maxed out — long ago — on what they can give her, personally (ie contributions to the campaign both for the primaries and the general) So they can’t give her any more or, at least, not legally. Their only route now is to threaten the entire party.

  • Brooks: You’re probably right, but we can give her the benefit of the doubt and try to keep the election positive and well positioned to win in Nov.

  • Steve (#20),

    That was a very good suggestion. I don’t have the time to do systematic, thorough research, but I ran a few of those names (the pushy Clinton donors) through Wikipedia and Google. It’s amazing what a bunch of creeps we allow to run our party, especially considering that Obama has demonstrated his capacity to raise much more money without becoming a whore. Really, those are not a bunch of people you’d want to have a beer with.

    Seriously, your suggestion is a good one. Maybe Steve Benen could make a contest of some kind: Complete the brief bio of [name of donor].

    Here’s an example picked at random (answer from Wikipedia): Haim Saban – Saban summarized his politics in a 2004 New York Times interview with the statement, “I’m a one-issue guy and my issue is Israel.” Saban has donated to the US Democratic Party and the Israeli Labor Party, he has also donated to Republicans including George W. Bush, and has business affiliations with Rupert Murdoch.

    Here’s another (answer from the first item cited by Google): Lynn de Rothschild – Lynn Forester de Rothschild, Lady de Rothschild (born July 2, 1954 in Oradell, New Jersey) is an England-based American entrepreneur. She heads the Luxembourg-based wireless broadband company FirstMark Communications Europe, launched in 1998 which raised $1 billion in funding, and has board members including former US Secretary of State Henry Kissinger and Washington power-broker Vernon Jordan as board members.

    Not as scary as some, but not the people I’d like to take orders from either. Now I need to take another shower.

  • I agree with everyone who calls the letter blackmail and despicable — and has any candidate for Presidency so entirely destroyed whatever claim to a favorable place in history they had had as totally as Hillary? (Maybe Millard Fillmore, by running as the Know-Nothing Candidate in 1856)

    But I agree with the Clinton Campaign entirely about the ‘super-delegates’ (not about the elected ones). I’ve been wanting to say this and this is a good opportunity.

    I have winced at some of the comments about the ‘superdelegates.’ They are, almost completely, elected officials — membership in the DNC is also elected. They are people we voted for, because, supposedly, we respected their judgment — even if it disagreed with ours.

    But most importantly, the paranoiac view of them forgets the real reason they are there. It has been so long since the convention choice was settled months early that we forget how messy floor fights can be — which is fine, democracy is supposed to be messy. But nobody expected a situation like this — any more than anyone expected a Presidential election to turn on less than a thousand votes in one state.

    The reason the superdelegates are there is to take care of two situations, to provide a steadying and unifying force to hold the party together in either case. The first is if the Candidate dies before the convention. Imagine what would hapen — pretend, as horrible as this would be, that we were Republicans — if McCain died in July. Or imagine what would happen if one of the hate groups that has spoken about assassinating Obama actually did it. In either case, you can’t recreate the primaries, and you have thousands of delegates suddenly becoming ‘free agents’ — and many times they were elected as much to oppose one candidate as to support another, so there is some question if they would (or should) automatically go to the runner-up.

    The other situation is if a Candidate gets the necessary votes for the nomination in the primaries, but then something comes out that makes him unelectable. (Imagine if Elliot Spitzer had been running — and I’d hoped for that when I voted for him, but not after his first year in office — had gotten the necessary number of delegates to be nominated, and then “Client 9” had come out.

    That is why the Superdelegates are there — that and the understandable wish to avoid having a Congressman or Senator not being a delegate because he supported the wrong candidate and was ousted in the primary — in some states the names of the delegates are listed.

    So, I am going to shock people by saying that I think the superdelegates should use their judgment, and even more shockingly, I trust these people, many of whom have to run with the Candidate that gets nominated, to use it and — for the most part — to use it wisely.

  • Obama may not accept the letter by long-time donors…

    But he and other elected Democrats benefit greatly from their contributions to the Democratic Party. For Obama to dismiss this letter to Pelosi is self-serving right now, but it won’t be if Obama is the nominee and if he should become president. He’ll need and want the support of these donors. I’d tell the Obama campaign to back off and stop biting the hands that also feed him. And if he (or his surrogates and followers) thinks that he can run a campaign – of any kind – without “big” donors, perhaps he’d like to return the $1.7 million his campaign has received from mortgage lenders and securities firms – many of them involved to their necks in the subprime lending mess).

  • So what this article is saying that rich donors for Hillary will keep their pocket book closed in supporting the Dem party if Hillary does not get the nod? Well I guess if you can’t win the nomination, nobody but Hillary supporters would try and buy it for her.

  • These people are screwed up in the head. If they want to back McCain go right a head. I would rather lose an election than vote on the same side these sleezy clinton backers.

  • Bill Bradley [Obama supporter and surrogate]”I don’t think you’re going to find congressmen, even congresspeople that are behind Hillary early, go against their district, because if they go against their district, they’re going to find that they could very well have a primary challenge the next time.”

    and

    “I think certainly a congressional candidate has got to think twice about an Obama campaign challenged in the next election from people who are not novices. They know how to organize. And so I think this will factor in to the kind of decisions that are made by super-delegates.”

    From the News Hour. 5 March 2008

    Is that clear enough for you Racer X?

  • If it was anybody but a clinton, the same as bush, these two dynasties try to threaten everybody…they lie, cheat, steal, HRC even threatens her own party and the FIRST FEMALE SPEAKER OF HOUSE….

    HRC does not care at all about women’s empowerment…she only cares about herself and her own aspirations…..

    She is very evil….SHE will destroy the party……

    if this right wing “neutral” news doesn’t report this, I will cut and paste somewhere else….where they are actually objective…..are clintons paying off this site???

    HRC promised to pay every child born in the US $5000….major media doesn’t report it…..why not??? aren’t her daily lies very important in judging her in order to determine if anything she says is true or realistic….like the phantom sniper fire….maybe she should go back and just stay there until after election, at least….she hasn’t done any good for the state of NY….maybe her exclusive enclave of Chappaqua, who knows???

    A groups of rich people who don’t respect the will of the people and want to be special…and don’t care about our country!!!!!Hillary is running for the wrong nomination!!!send their money to mccain,. he needs it more…..and that is what you want anyway, by splitting our party…nancy pelosi, chris dodd, bill richardson, gov. casey are smart enough to not fall for this……here in NY Dems were disenfranchised, our county had “to look at” our votes…and conveniently a lot of us who voted for Obama disappeared…it was on NPR….of course, if didn’t make biased CNN who wants this to continue as long as possible…..wake up….it was reported to national voter fraud, sound familiar??? so is HRC REALLY a democrat???? or just a neocon in liberal clothing…..taxing us even more….getting scary…..

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