Human decency snuffed out by sleeping bag

Guest Post by Morbo

Do me a favor: Read the two paragraphs below, which come from a front-page Washington Post story by Josh White, then answer a short question.

Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush was being stubborn with his American captors, and a series of intense beatings and creative interrogation tactics were not enough to break his will. On the morning of Nov. 26, 2003, a U.S. Army interrogator and a military guard grabbed a green sleeping bag, stuffed Mowhoush inside, wrapped him in an electrical cord, laid him on the floor and began to go to work. Again.

It was inside the sleeping bag that the 56-year-old detainee took his last breath through broken ribs, lying on the floor beneath a U.S. soldier in Interrogation Room 6 in the western Iraqi desert. Two days before, a secret CIA-sponsored group of Iraqi paramilitaries, working with Army interrogators, had beaten Mowhoush nearly senseless, using fists, a club and a rubber hose, according to classified documents.

The question: Are you proud to be an American?

We are told constantly by the right wing that “aggressive interrogation” — a euphemism for torture — is needed to save lives. They always spin the most outlandish hypothetical situations: What if terrorists plant bombs at Sea World to blow up a busload of disabled children! If we didn’t use torture to find out where the bombs are, everyone will die.

It might make a nice plot for “24” but has little connection to reality.

Let’s consider Mowhoush’s case. The military claimed he was captured during a military operation. In fact, he walked into a U.S. military facility in Qaim, hoping to secure the release of his sons, who had actually been captured in a raid. Under questioning, Mowhoush admitted that he had helped plan insurgent attacks in the area. But the army wanted more, so it turned Mowhoush over to CIA operatives and a specially trained group of Iraqis called “Scorpions.”

It’s unclear to me what else the interrogators expected to get from Mowhoush. They seemed to think he could stop the attacks. How he was supposed to do this while chained upside down to a wall in the middle of the desert is unclear.

In fact, the torture just made Mowhoush more stubborn.

In a document obtained by The Post, an unnamed interrogator said, “I asked [Mowhoush] if he was strong enough a leader to put an end to the attacks that I believed he was behind. He did not deny he was behind the attacks as he had denied previously, he simply said because I had humiliated him, he would not be able to stop the attacks.”

After Mowhoush’s death, military officials issued a press release stating that he had died of “natural causes.” But an autopsy report quoted in classified documents exposed that lie. Mowhoush died of “asphyxia due to smothering and chest compression” and his body showed “contusions and abrasions with pattern impressions” all over his body. He had six fractured ribs and it’s likely that he had been beaten with a “long straight-edge instrument” as well as an “object like the end of an M-16” rifle.

Two soldiers are now being tried for his death. They are little more than convenient fall guys. Yes, the two might have stuffed Mowhoush into the sleeping bag, but it’s obvious they got the idea it was okay to do that from a military culture that sanctions such abuse. Sticking those two in the brig won’t change a thing.

I know Mowhoush was a bad guy. He led attacks against U.S. soldiers and killed innocent people. He did these things because he is a terrorist, and that’s what they do.

The United States, by contrast, is supposed to be better. We set such a high standard that we even treat suspected terrorists according to the rule of law — at least we used to.

I understand the need to put down the insurgency in Iraq. But if this is the price — that we start behaving no better than the enemy we’re fighting — it’s time to sit down and do some serious soul searching. We had better do it now. A few more years of tolerating, and in some cases, applauding, behavior like this and we’ll no longer be capable of it.

Morbo, you are right: “the United States … is supposed to be better.”

  • Ah, the U.S. military, training a new generation of psychopaths who, after getting used to a murderous lifestyle, will be unable to return to normal life without beating, maiming, and killing.

    I wonder, what’s the recidivism rate for former “aggressive interrogators?”

  • I find it shamefull that this has and is happening every day. Then it is the low level soldiers who are court martialed and punished.
    I say it is the higher ups I want punished. BUSH,CHENEY,RUMSFIELD and all superior officers who are the ones ordering this treatment.
    After this treatment by our goverment our soldiers will be tortured when they are prisoners. Of course it won’t hurt the above mentioned people and they will call these other torturer’s filthy, inhumane terrorist’s.
    How does it go? You reap what you sow

  • This story does not make sense. Read the excerpt from the story below. The writer is obligated to qualify every statement about the general with “they believed” or “US commanders believed” or “military intelligence” . The writer should have been able to state a fact: He was a general. After beating the guy to death, the military may have had a reason to make him out to be one of the really bad guys.

    If he was a general, why on earth would a notorious general walk into a US military facility and expect help? Presumably he is reasonably intelligent if was a general and he so’s stupid as to not try and make deal of some kind in advance? One possibility would be to offer himself in exchange for his sons.

    The obvious way to make him talk was to torture his sons in front of the general. Yet there is not further word of his sons after stating that they had been captured.

    More to this story than we know.

    Excerpt:

    “Officials were excited about Mowhoush’s appearance.

    “The general, they believed, had been a high-ranking official in Saddam Hussein’s Republican Guard and a key supporter of the insurgency in northwestern Iraq. Mowhoush was one of a few generals whom Hussein had given “execution authority,” U.S. commanders believed, meaning that he could execute someone on sight, and he had been notorious among Shiites in southern Iraq for brutality.

    Mowhoush had been visited by Hussein at his home in Sadah in October 2003 “to discuss, among other undisclosed issues, a bounty of US$10,000 to anyone who video-taped themselves attacking coalition forces,” according to a Defense Intelligence Agency report.

    Military intelligence also believed that Mowhoush was behind several attacks in the Qaim area.”

  • The prison scandal story is so vast and sprawling,
    and so horrific, that I cannot understand why it is
    not getting any real traction. The atrocities and
    revelations are being uncovered and reported on
    a regular basis, and yet nothing happens. Where
    are the Democrats on this? The media? The
    press? Where’s the outrage? It should be there,
    but it’s not.

  • “But if this is the price — that we start behaving no better than the enemy we’re fighting — it’s time to sit down and do some serious soul searching. We had better do it now. A few more years of tolerating, and in some cases, applauding, behavior like this and we’ll no longer be capable of it.”

    I agree with you Morbo, except that I fear it is already too late. We have lost our soul in this country, and I’m afraid that we have become so desensitized to this crap that it doesn’t even register in our national consciousness — and this is especially true when the CCCP (Compliant Complicit Corporate Press) refuses to put Iraq and the torture on teh front page – because IN THEIR VIEW it isn’t sexy enough to make a profit on.

    I’m tired of this, but too weary to even fight it some days…

  • I’m with you, AL.

    I was in a discussion recently about the fall of the Roman Empire. I opposed the Marxist (and Hollywood) view that Christianized slaves somehow rose up and overthrew Rome, ushering in fedualism. I was also opposed to the notion that the Teutonic tribes and other “barbarians” simply grew strong enough to bring Rome down. I think all the evidence is that Rome simply “came to an end”, collapsing on its own, after its republican “spirit” had disappeared (or perhaps moved to the east).

    The ideals of Franklin and Jefferson and Adams and Madison and Hamilton …. I don’t know any students anymore who have ever read any of them. Lincoln? what’d he do other than get shot? Would anyone in today’s electorate volunteer (waste) years in the Peace Corps or do anything but laugh over Kennedy’s call to “ask not….”?

    Pretty grim, and the current crop of aspirants for what used to be called “high office” doesn’t brighten things much.

  • This is long…

    I think that we must look at this as a symptom of a more basic problem. I worked with sociopathic high schoolers for about five years. The current technical terminology when dealing with youth with this condition is either Oppositional Defiant Disorder (ODD) or Conduct Disorder (CD). Some folks sight slight differences between the two and I tend to lump them together, but these individuals must not be confused with the Emotionally Impaired (EI) folks. Anyway, there is a problem in our schools with growing numbers of ODD students. ODD is primarily a learned condition and if not treated before the age of 7 – 9 years of age, it becomes chronic and virtually impossible to treat. ODD is primarily a condition of wealthy societies where kids and parents have little real responsibility and are socially isolated. These kids are never held responsible for their actions and are allowed to control the adults around them. Don’t forget, it is a conditioned behavior. These are usually smart, extrememly manipulative kids who will do anything to get their way. They are awful human beings.

    Anyway, where I’m going with this is that like most of you I have had the distinct misfortune of having to watch our president for several years now, and I’ll be damned if he doesn’t act just like my ODD students used to. The same mannerism, same smirk, same obliviousness to consequences. ODD kids create their own realities. Chaos is generally viewed as a good thing because the pressure is typically off them and there is lots of opportunity for manipulation. Facts have no bearing, what they want to be true is true and what they don’t want to be true simply does not exist or needs to be extinquished. Because of their unusual anti-social behavior, they tend to either be loners and have one or two victims as their only friend or to move in groups of like-minded folks. In these packs, their behavior tends to be reinforced and from each other they learn ever worsening behaviors. There are two things that ODDer’s cannot tolerate: any type of limits set by others on their behavior and loss of control over anything in their world.

    OK, so where I’m going is that if indeed our president is somewhat ODD we must understand that all of this is very favorable to him. The Geneva Convention was a limit that had no purpose, indeed held back the chaos which would help to hide his incompetence and allow him to ride his bicycle while his lawyers figure it out. I really don’t think he cares about the torture. It doesn’t even cross his mind unless he needs to manipulate someone into thinking that he is concerned. I also think he has a bit of Attention Deficit Hyperactive Disorder (ADHD) so that helps him not to ponder anything too long. In this we are somewhat blessed because it also helps to diminish the tendency of some ODDer’s to plot and plan, which they tend to be really good at. I think our president pretty much takes whatever comes his way and is not conscious that he is behaving in a pathological manner but is certain that folks who complain or try to hold him accountable are trying to meanspiritedly ruin his life. He will continue to undo any limit that is placed on his behavior or the behavior of those around him while increasing control over those who may have any power to limit him. He will continue to create and them forget social chaos. He will hide behind any fig leaf offered and then as people start bickering forget about it and go ride his bike. I don’t think that he is unusually sadistic, but he does like to see those meanies get what was comin’.

    At this late date in his life, no one will change him. He will never be able to recognize the damage he has done, nor will he ever care to think about it. But we must understand that even more insidiously, he is modeling very dangerous behavior. We may brush his brutishness off, but believe me, the behavior he and the rest of our government is modelling and the social paradigm they are creating are frightning for our already fraying social fabric. Without interpersonal limits, yet with increased personal limits which can be thrown up when needed to deflect those who challenge the hoi poloi , folks who have these ODD tendencies will prevail until they are FORCED to stop and they will only stop when they are removed from power. In the meantime, bullies will thrive, social Darwinism, egoism and all types of social tresspass will flourish. The torture scandal works for him. Sure, he gets a little uncomfortable when he has to make up stuff when asked about it. But other than that, it keeps us occupied, right? Look at all the chaos he has created. That will work for him and his business cronies, too.

    So this is what we must do. We must continue to remain concerned about these issues and continue to learn about them. BUT, more importantly, we must be sure that we also learn how to model appropriate behavior, how to react to emotionalism with equinimity, how to effectively guide youngsters, the niaive and the less furtunate. Do not be intimidated by youth who so desperately need healthy limits and good guidance. Practice being a real adult even though our government seems uncapable of it now. Be pleasant and open-hearted at every appropriate opportunity. We cannot allow these thugs to destroy our lives and our communities. We must be less isolated, more connected and clearer about who the predators are and who the real adults are. Learn about interpersonal power, social and personal psychology, non-violent intervention, and so on. Pick your battles carefully. Don’t get lost in the chaos.

    It’s what they want.

  • As of today: 1831 American soldiers dead, 2025 with the “coalition” troops.
    23,313 Iraqi minimum, upwards to 100,000.

    And there is no outrage here in the states. It is lost. We have lost our way and are now, with the massive debt and no concern for educating children, destined to be the largest third world country. Texas is our model for America.

    The election was stole “twice”.

    The word secular, when applied to people is rude and should be considered by Christians to be an anti-Christian way of speaking. Secular means temporal, profane and worldly. Non-Christians are not that.

    Just some random thoughts. God help us all.

  • It doesn’t matter who votes – it’s who counts the votes that counts. We will be stuck with people who encourage soldiers to violate human decency until we have free and fair elections in our country!

    For a review of the reasons we are losing in Iraq, read Squandered Victory: The American Occupation and the Bungled Effort to Bring Democracy to Iraq.

    Our so-called “leaders” don’t seem to even care about OUR soldiers, much less about treating “anyone-who-isn’t -a-rightwing-friend-of-theirs” decently!

    If we can’t protect our troops, we should bring them home!

    Their is a mother trying to protest the loss of her son. George Bush is too busy on vacation to bother talking with her. The authorities are keeping her four or five miles from Dubya’s ranch. They wanted the 50, or so, protestors to walk along the road – IN A DITCH and not on the road.

    Walk in the ditch, Bitch! And, keep your mouth shut, right?

  • Please excuse my typo – that’s supposed to be “there” is a mother protesting, not their!

    Sorry!

  • The question: Are you proud to be an American?

    Democrats make me ashamed to be an American.

    Republicans make me ashamed to be a human being.

  • You are wrong. Mowhoush was not a “bad guy.” He was a patriotic Iraqi defending his country from an invading force that is subjecting his homeland to a brutal occupation. The terrorists in Iraq are the ones who beat people to death in sleeping bags or throw them in the river to watch them drown or who destroy entire cities to eliminate a few insurgents or who randomly shoot unarmed civilians because they’re too effing scared about their own safety and too hateful to care about the people whose country they were sent to destroy.

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