‘I wouldn’t start with suspicion’

It’s certainly not my intention to criticize Joe Lieberman every day, but this one just floored me.

Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) said today that he is upset that critics have been questioning the administration’s intelligence on Iran, calling the reaction “unwarranted.” Lieberman said the “danger point” learned from the criticism is that the media and politicians reacted with “suspicion.” “I wouldn’t start with suspicion,” Lieberman said.

Lieberman also encouraged the intelligence community to push their conclusions further and complained that there has been a reluctance of people in the administration to do so. He spoke out against what he sees as “a kind of defensiveness — I dare not call it timidity” of the intelligence community due to incorrect judgments made in the lead-up to Iraq.

Look, I realize that Lieberman has teamed up with the White House on foreign policy. And I appreciate the fact that Lieberman accepts the Bush administration’s line on the Middle East, no matter how many times it’s wrong. But to suggest that it’s “unwarranted” to be “suspicious” of the administration’s claims is simply breathtaking.

Lieberman has it exactly backwards. For one thing, the administration, by its own admission, already experienced one of the greatest intelligence failures in American history in the lead-up to the war in Iraq. Now the same administration officials are coming forward with even more dubious claims about Iraq’s next door neighbor. Lieberman not only wants us to suspend doubt, he wants the intelligence community to be even more aggressive in jumping to conclusions.

Lieberman has been awake and in the country the last four years, hasn’t he?

For that matter, while Lieberman’s arguing that we shouldn’t “start with suspicion,” our allies are reviewing the administration’s intelligence that Lieberman likes so much. Guess what they concluded.

Diplomats [in Vienna] say most U.S. intelligence shared with the U.N. nuclear watchdog agency has proved inaccurate and none has led to significant discoveries inside Iran….”Since 2002, pretty much all the intelligence that’s come to us has proved to be wrong,” a senior diplomat at the IAEA said. Another official here described the agency’s intelligence stream as “very cold now” because “so little panned out.”

And, finally, how can any reasonable person not be suspicious when the president and his intelligence team contradict each other on the Iranian “threat”? You’ll recall that just two weeks ago, Bush administration officials asserted without evidence that bombs used by Shiites in Iraq had been tied to “the highest levels of the Iranian government.” Shortly thereafter, the president denied being sure about this, while White House officials said intelligence officials went “a little too far.”

Faiz concluded, “A Senate Intelligence Committee inquiry on pre-war Iraq intelligence found that more action was needed to “challenge assumptions and group think.” Lieberman’s approach dooms Congress to repeating its previous failure.”

This need not be complicated. When an administration starts making dubious claims about an enemy, after establishing a record of making dubious claims about other enemies, it’s Congress job to be “suspicious.” If Lieberman wants to just accept the White House’s claims at face value, he’s in the wrong place.

Can you believe Arial Sharon is still holding on? This guy is really afraid to let go.

(Not as off-topic as you think.)

  • Dear Israel,
    I hear that Ariel Sharon is having health problems. While he’s napping I would like to offer you our very own Joe Lieberman to lead you into whatever wars you might be contemplating. He is quite willing to sell the American people down the river just to make sure Israel stays on top of those pesky Arabs.

  • Another commenter a few posts ago wondered what the Connecticut voters are thinking now…

    I still want to point out that 33% of DEMS voted for Loserman. That’s really a nasty number, considering that he LEFT the party before the general elections.

    It shows how a lot of voters focus on the sweet talk during the debates, instead of looking at the incumbent’s record.

    I bet CT Dems would RECALL Loserman if that was possible. Because of the idiocy of 33% of CT Dems who voted against their own party, the whole nation suffers.

    I also blame Clinton, Obama et al who didn’t rally behind Lamont.

    Anyway I hope this is a lesson learned for Dems.

  • Ha! Haik and I are channeling Sharon today. I know military intelligence is known to be a contradiction in terms, but they really do need to find a new term for it. The Bushies are such a black hole of stupid that they suck any intelligence out of information they get.

  • Lieberman will not be happy until we are at war with Iran. The man cares about one country, and it ain’t us.

    More drumbeats for war with Iran:

    Sy Hersh: “…they are planning very seriously at the President’s request to attack Iran”

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/26/sy-hersh-they-are-planning-very-seriously-at-the-presidents-request-to-attack-iran/

    …Israel is negotiating with the United States for permission to fly over Iraq as part of a plan to attack Iran’s nuclear facilities…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/02/24/wiran124.xml

    and

    …The addition of a second aircraft carrier to its strike groups has fuelled the belief that America is gearing up for a fight with Iran. Not since the Iraq war in 2003 has America amassed so much fire power around the Gulf…

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;jsessionid=BWZ3YO5U1WL1LQFIQMFCFFOAVCBQYIV0?xml=/news/2007/02/24/wiran24.xml

  • I wish I could read Al Gore’s mind when Lieberman spews crap like this:

    And the other part which was troubling what Senator Levin referred to before is the reluctance by the people in the administration to draw a conclusion that I would call highly probable. In other words, a kind of defensiveness — I dare not call it timidity — based on previous criticism of conclusions drawn from intelligence.

    […]

    So it would be, to me, shocking if the Quds force was carrying out this mission in Iraq without Ayatollah Khamanei knowing it. And I think we have to count on you on moments like that to tell us what may not be certain, but is highly probable based on everything we know.

    He “dare[s] not call it timidity”? He’s calling the BushCo Foaming Warmongers timid? He wants them to assert that it’s “highly probable” that Ayatollah Khamanei himself is directing the Quds force to attack US troops, when there’s no evidence to that fact?

    And “criticism of conclusions drawn from intelligence”? How about criticism of intelligence manufactured to support conclusions?

    The man has gone way beyond insane, and/or he’s just pure evil.

    He does resemble Darth Sidious.

  • When the day comes that someone stands up to Lieberman – someone like Levin or Kennedy or Dodd or Feingold – and says, “Are You Fucking Kidding Me?” I will know that Lieberman is once and for all headed into the oblivion where he bleongs, but so far, all these people will say is that Lieberman is a “good friend and a good Senator.”

    Bleah.

  • For one thing, the administration, by its own admission, already experienced one of the greatest intelligence failures in American history in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.

    That’s only for public consumption – as a matter of fact, it wasn’t a failure at all as it accomplished exactly what the Administration regime wanted it to. Remember – these guys create their own reality – and when you get to create your own reality, there’s no such thing as “intelligence failure”.

  • Lieberman’s giving me the willies because he’s telegraphing his fear of the Iran operation getting busted. For Joe to say crap like people shouldn’t be “suspicious,” that criticism of Iran intel is “unwarranted” is like a masked bank robber telling passersby to “move along, nothing to see here.” The fix is in and Joe is scared the plan might get sniffed out if people keep questioning what’s going on. There’s evil afoot and if one sniffs around Joe you can smell the fear of the conspirators.

  • CB writes: “For one thing, the administration, by its own admission, already experienced one of the greatest intelligence failures in American history in the lead-up to the war in Iraq.”

    That “admission” is trying to get an acceptable lie through. There was no intelligence failure; there was simply the administration fabricating and cherrypicking “intelligence” as a pretext for attacking Iraq. Call bullshit, bullshit.

  • To racerx- BushCo are personally timid; they simply have no problem in sending somebody else’s kids to die.

    To an ohioan- I know a lot of Ohioans changed their minds in the last election, but I can’t help thinking that Ohioans certainly helped assure us of 4 more years of Bush in 2004. Maybe you should continue to cultivate your own garden.

  • I wish we would stop emphasizing, or even talking about Zell Miller – whoops – Joe Lieberman. The Iraq War is Bush/Cheney’s fault. We are putting way too much emphasis on the foolish words of one formerly competent Senator, a Senator with little power to stop the anti-war movement. If Joe becomes a Republican tomorrow, it makes no difference; the organizing resolution of 2007 has set up the Democrats as the majority party for this Congressional term. So if Joe makes silly speeches, why are we bothering to listen? Why should we care?

    The American people are with us, and they are more emphatically supporting Democrats as the months go by. They oppose this incompetent Administration, its foolish war and ridiculous policies. Lieberman is having his last moments of fame; when the “surge” (regretfully but surely) fails, who will care what this Senator thinks?

    Do we not realize if Bush intends to attack Iran, he will do so even without the support of Congress or the American people? Lieberman’s words mean nothing, Bush’s decision will be based on his version of the national interest.

    We need to understand: Democrats cannot stop the Iraq War right now. Democrats cannot cut the war funding – they don’t have enough votes to override a filibuster or a Presidential veto. Demonizing Lieberman only diverts us from the task at hand – to elect Democrats in 2008 and end the war in 2009.

    And while we’re at it, I wish people would stop branding Lieberman as the Senator from Tel Aviv. Numerous Israeli newspapers have reported that Ariel Sharon tried to talk Bush out of the Iraqi invasion. The U.S. should have listened to Israel; but then again, George Bush listens to nobody except his voices of destiny.

  • If Lieberman wants to just accept the White House’s claims at face value, he’s in the wrong place.

    We may have different opinions about where he is.

    I think he’s on the floor in front of Bush, wearing kneepads at least, maybe even a blue dress.

  • Are we on the same server Wall Street used today, this is the fourth try to post this.
    Barry, it’s necessary to log in to read the entire article, but can you explain the motivation for this?
    Lieberman queries Lamont’s loyalty to Israel
    and as for Sharon discouraging Shrub from invading Iraq, Sharon warns Bush that Hussein is a threat. The only thing Sharon said to discourage Shrub from invading Iraq was that the Arab world would not take to democracy. Hussein wasn’t a threat to the US and even the dimwit in the White House knew it or are you going to tell us about WMD’s. How is the weather in Connecticut this time of year, Barry?

  • “Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-CT) said today that he is upset that critics have been questioning the administration’s intelligence on Iran” –

    Well boo-hoo for you Mr. Senator. The notion that America can’t question this administration just demonstrates how totally pathetic you really are.

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