If we know what play they’re going to call, shouldn’t we able to stop it?

Last week, Salon’s Walter Shapiro spoke with several Dem insiders who lamented the fact that the party was going after Bush on his warrantless-search program, fearing that it would keep the political debate exactly where the White House wants it — with an emphasis on national security, Bush’s alleged strength.

The WaPo’s E. J. Dionne Jr., in the column of the day, explains that these insiders have everything backwards. Karl Rove has told the Dems where Republicans are going to go — the message is: “Republicans are tough on our enemies, Democrats are not. If you don’t want to get blown up, vote Republican” — and it’s up to Dems to deal with the telegraphed punch.

The typical Democratic consultant says: “Hey, national security is a Republican issue. We shouldn’t engage on that. We should change the subject.” In the 2002 elections, the surefire Democratic winners were a prescription drug benefit under Medicare (an issue Bush tried to steal), a patients’ bill of rights, the economy and education. Those issues sure worked wonders, didn’t they?

By not engaging the national security debate, Democrats cede to Rove the power to frame it. Consider that clever line about Democrats having a pre-Sept. 11 view of the world. The typical Democratic response would be defensive: “No, no, of course 9/11 changed the world.” More specifically, there’s a lot of private talk among Democrats that the party should let go of the issue of warrantless spying on Americans because the polls show that a majority values security and safety.

What Democrats should have learned is that they cannot evade the security debate. They must challenge the terms under which Rove and Bush would conduct it.

That’s exactly right. Too often, the refrain from Dems is, “But voters are with us on the issues.” To a real extent, this is largely true. But if the electorate thinks Bush and the GOP will do a better job than Dems in keeping the country safe, the other issues simply don’t matter nearly as much as the consultants would like.

The one part of this dynamic that’s so frustrating is Bush’s record on national security issues is really bad. I know, it’s a well-kept secret, but it’s true.

We’re talking about an administration that largely ignored Clinton’s advice about dealing al Qaeda; didn’t take the “bin Laden determined to strike inside U.S.” memo seriously; invaded Afghanistan but failed to follow through on our commitments; can’t catch bin Laden; launched a devastating war in Iraq that has increased the terrorist threat; watched the nuclear threat posed by North Korea and Iran get considerably worse; leaked classified information for partisan gain; and launched an illegal surveillance program that produced a flood of useless tips.

The only people who should be afraid of this record are Republicans who expect to run for re-election alongside this unpopular president. Dems have some compelling issues going for them — Abramoff and Medicare among them — but there’s no reason in the world to cede national security ground to the GOP.

Preach on, brother.

  • CB, I agree with what you are saying, but is the plan for the Dems then to get in charge on something other then national sercurity, THEN go after the people that need to be held accountable? If that is what the plan is I am all for it, but it makes me wanna scream the way that they can flaunt doing whatever they want no matter how illegal it is.

  • The reason the damn democrats keep losing is that they don’t step up to the damn plate and swing at the ball (hey, if a baseball analogy is good enough for Supreme Court nominations…).

    How about they highlight how many first-time candidates this year are Vets running as Democrats? Those sorts of facts and figures are hard to lie about. Thrust the shit in the republicans’ faces.

  • We should stress that the way to win the war on terror is with “courage and old fashioned American bravery”…not the republican fear we are exposed to daily. A foreign policy based on fear is doomed to fail. A foreign policy based on courage is a winning foreign policy.

    Avoiding the national security issue just makes us look like we’re afraid!!

    You want to see a reaction to this approach, just casually mention to a republican friend (if you have any….) that you’re tired of the fear republicans force upon us and feel we should all show more courage in the war against terror. Then watch their face turn green, red, and orange all at once.

  • When there seems to be a massive pile of evidence supporting the assertion that we are considerably less safe now, to not confront this issue head on would be idiotic. If you let them run with the issue, they will win again. The reason Bush is still in the WH is that noone had the cajones to confront this issue in the last presidential election, and there was plenty of evidence even then that the administration is failing to do an even adequate job on domestic security, while its overseas adventure in Iraq helped support the cause of Islamic extremism and led to further global terrorist activity. While the administration can claim that we havent had an attack here since 9/11, and its because they themselves have made us safer, it needs to be shown that this is not true. Even Osama just said that our time is coming, and that planning is still going on. Personally, I think its a when, not if. The Dems should drag out the report card on the domestic security readiness that contained mostly Fs, remind people that their freedoms are disappearing, we are stoking more hatred in the world, and that Iraq is essentially already in a civil war. The only reason it isnt called that yet is that there is still a central government, so it doesnt meet the academic definition of one yet. But the only reason the govt has not toppled is that we are there to support and defend it. Meanwhile, the populace is essentially partitioning itself, with sunnis, kurds and shiites killing each other or forceably removing people to create pure geographies by sect. Once that is accomplished (and there is nothign to stop it) the best we can hope for is three governments and a formal partition. Reconstruction is a disaster, as it has jsut been shown publicly, and there is no money to fix the place. Essentially, the quagmire continues. When the day comes years from now that there is a Iraqi army, it will be used to herd the sunnis into camps most likely, or just eradicate them, and then there will be a fight with the Kurds or a division of the spoils. What a lovely democracy weve grown there! SICKENING!

    Everything this administration touches essentially turns to shit, or is stolen for special interests. The fact that people cant see this is purely because the thing the administration is best at is propaganda, much of which is borderline criminal behavior. Its absolutely astounding to me that people cannot see what is really happening to this country.

  • Rove and Co have been so successful at turning a preceived strengths into weaknesses. For example, Kerry as a war hero, McCain as a war hero and Murtha as a war hero — common theme, but that’s for another comment. Dems should learn from the strategy. Dems could and should exploit Bush on his national security weakness. E.g. Republicans are so bad at it that they have to resort to domestic spying. Or, Bush is not following through on providing first responders with necessary money and equipment (a topic CB frequently covers). I hope the dems stop backing down on something like national security. Every dem i know cares deeply about this country and its national security and the dems in Congress should keep challenging the administration.

  • The Republicans have used 9-11 to change the world, literally, through the use of fear. The event was a disaster, but the latitude they have allowed themselves for making bad decisions has been even worse. Every declaration they make regarding post 9-11 is followed by poor judgement and deplorable choices. We should be pointing to each of these as evidence that they can’t think with a level head. It makes me crazy every time I hear them use 9-11 to defend their unconstitutional decisions. The difference between post 9-11 Democrats and post 9-11 Republicans is that we are not so cowardly as to tear up our constitutional rights as a knee-jerk reaction to fear.

  • I definitely think Democrats need to be be out there more on national security. But they need to learn how to effectly fight back with that crap that Rove and the GOP throws out. Why let them set the tone. Why let them say what Democrats are. Letting the GOP tell Americans what the Democratic party is going to continue to kill the Democrats on every issue. Democrats should be telling Americans what the party stands for. They shouldn’t be afraid of national security/defense related issues. There are would be candidates (all the Fighting Dems from Kos and Clark) and even current members (Murtha) who can talk strongly and intelligently. However, their voice gets lost when “insiders” say we can’t talk about that because the GOP will come after us. The GOP supposedly owns this issue because they are willing to talk about and because the Democratic party lets them take the lead.

  • The only thing about the security issue is that Dems have to make a commitment to do a lot of prep on it, if we want to engage it. It’s true enough that the GOP is currently holding the field on that issue, so we have to make sure that we’ve done enough– not wait until the night before election night, so to speak– so that the people are ready to understand what we’re about on that issue.

    I don’t think that hyping up fear is the way to go. Instead, we talk about how the way Bush is handling things is needlessly getting people killed- getting out troops killed- and is wasting heaps and piles of money. And we point to Mike Brown, et al, and we say “Do you really want these guys standing on the fence between us and the enemy?”

    The corruption and the scandals are all great points to be hitting, again and again. Of course they should be the bread and butter of these campaigns.

    Great post, CB.

  • Attack their strength. Democrats must go after the repugs on national security. Bush has been as miserable a failure at national security as he has at everything else he’s touched. But if we let him frame the issue, we lose again.

    We don’t have to “swiftboat” the preznit on this. All we need to do is call a spade a spade and relentlessly, relentlessly, relentlessly go after his lies and misinformation. This is not to say we should ignore the corruption, cronyism, incompetence, and abuse of power. We should not, must not, ignore them.

    But, Bush controls the media. He will control the talking points. National security is going to dominate the discussion. Rove has told us that already. If we aren’t right back in their face about it, the other issues just won’t be effective (especially the abuse of power).

    It will not be easy. However, if Democrats do not try, they will do no better than pick up a few seats in the midterm. That is as good as nothing.

    We need to take back one or both houses of congress this year. Jacking off to the conventional wisdom just won’t do it.

  • The one part of this dynamic that’s so frustrating is Bush’s record on national security issues is really bad. I know, it’s a well-kept secret, but it’s true. – CB

    My thinking exactly before I got to those sentences. There’s no justification for ShrubCo to be holding on to national security like a hard earned talisman. They’re totally crappy at national security and they’re breaking the bank and the constitution in their blundering, power crazed arrogance. OBL could not have asked for a more inept and self absorbed administration to pull his attack on. ShrubCo has simply used OBL and terrorism to consolidate power. That is their biggest accomplishment in the name of national security. ShrubCo security is what it’s all about. For Dem’s not to go after this in an upfront and methodical manner is just wasting free ammo.

  • Corruption and incompetence should sell. Why hasn’t anyone made a big deal about Dick Cheney’s 433,333 stock options with Halliburton? He currently has to his benefit:

    33,333 shares at @28.125
    300,000 shares at @ 39.50
    100,000 shares at @ 54.50

    Current price is $75.95 per share, meaning that Dick Cheney’s options are currently worth $14,674,151.

    But at least he didn’t get a blow job.

  • Here’s how I would respond to Rove, Cheney, et al.:

    The Republicans want to talk about national security. The Republicans want us to “bring it on.” They Republicans think that no matter out of step they are with Americans on domestics issues, this one thing will carry the day for them. So let’s look at the Republicans on national security since President Bush took office:

    They were warned about 9/11. They let it happen.

    They were warned about the insurgency in Iraq. They let it happen.

    They were warned about how many troop would die due to their inferior armor. They let it happen.

    They were warned about levees in New Orleans breaking. They were warned about the deaths. They were warned about the chaos. They let it happen.

    They were warned about Korea building up a nuclear arsenal. They let it happen.

    They were warned about Iran building up a nuclear arsenal. They let it happen.

    They were warned that Iraq WASN’T building up a nuclear arsenal. They went to war anyway.

    Mission accomplished.

    And when the Republicans realize they don’t have a leg to stand on when it comes to national security, then maybe they’ll turn to domestic issues. Fine.

    They were warned about the healthcare disaster in their Medicaid bill. They made it happen.

    They were warned about the financial disaster of cutting taxes to billionaires in wartime. They made it happen.

    They were warned about the social disaster of seating a court that would overturn Roe v. Wade, which 80% of the country supports. They made it happen.

    There is one word that describes the Bush administration. Disaster. If their carelessness, their willfulness, their bubble mentality isn’t letting disasters happen, they’re going out and creating disasters for themselves. When it comes to national security, when it comes to domestic issues, they are the real disaster. It’s time to get rid of them.

  • Nice post AYM,

    The big point is Karl is trying to say that the Republican’s pre-9/11 mindset was the same as the Democrats pre-9/11 mindset.

    This is bullshit!

    The Clinton administration knew Osama was the biggest threat. They listened to Richard Clarke. They stopped the Millenium attacks. They were on the ball and competent.

    The Bushie neo-Cons said Iran, Iraq and North Korea ‘s missiles were the biggest threat. They demoted Richard Clarked. THEY FAILED TO STOP THE 9/11 ATTACKS. They were on vacation and incompetent.

    I’ll take the Democrats pre-9/11 mindset to the Republicans post-9/11 mindset any day.

    We just have to make these points.

  • At the end of the day I agree with you but we’ve got to find a way round the truth that the last candidate to run this kind of campaign was Bob Graham.

  • I totally agree with you, CB…

    Borrow a page from Rove’s playbook and go after Bush’s perceived strengths – terrorism and national security issues – because after 4.5 years they’re not strengths any more.

    Hmmm…just remembered Kennedy running against Nixon on the “missile gap” issue…lol.

  • The one part of this dynamic that’s so frustrating is Bush’s record on national security issues is really bad. I know, it’s a well-kept secret, but it’s true.

    Your list doesn’t include the fact that we’ve done nothing to secure chemical plants. I’m afraid that everything you mention will be waved off with “Yeah, but Kerry would have been worse, I just know it.” The chemical plant thing plays into the bought-by-special-interests frame (as well it should), and as such is likely to be believed and remembered.

  • Here’s an interesting parallel:

    Let’s all recall for a moment when Joe McCarthy ultimately became irrelevant. People saying, “Yeah, Joe, you’re right, we’ve really got to do something about these communists because they’re so dangerous– but a lot of other things are important too. Why not refocus on a few of those other things for a moment? For instance, …” didn’t do it.

    Rather, people said, “You’re nuts. This whole thing is wacko. Back the hell off.”

    These people running the administration and the Republican party are McCarthyists, and the parallel is clear. Anyone carrying the McCarthyist banner should be challenged with a stern, “Enough is enough,” and we should explain precisely why they’re failing us.

    Bad Republicans– no congress for you.

  • How many Iraq war vets are running as Democrats (43)? How many are running as Republicans(2)? (Courtesy DKos Fighting Dems posts) Why is this not a marketable fact???

  • We should go after Bush’s competence on war the way we went after his competence on Social Security.

    On EVERY ISSUE these morons are demonstrable morons!!! What is so goddamned hard that the pinstriped Washington pimps who call themselves “Democrats” can’t figure this one out????

  • Here’s another issue… All the corruption, the give-aways, the golf trips – they occured while we’re at war. Tax break after tax break levied on the GOP donor class and big businesses while Congressman are taken on exotic getaways, all while we’re at war.

    Are these the acts of patriots? No.

    All of the indiscretions are made exponentially worse because they happen in the shadow of 9/11.

  • The Dems should keep repeating one simple thing. “This could backfire on the Republicans”, . Use it on every talking point they bring up. Then let the MSM figure out just how it would.

  • There should be no letting the Republicans off the hook when it comes to their miserable approach to Iraq, the Middle East, spying, etc. These are fundamental flaws that must be hammered on continuously for people to understand it, even if it means you get bloodied along the way. Stand up, fight for what’s right and be willing to take the heat.

  • Dems should educate with images that republican corruption feeds an expensive advertising campaign of propaganda.

    Look behind the curtain.
    Piles of dirty money going to speedboat actors and ad agencies creating a flip flop windsurfer Kerry.

    The republicans think they can buy your vote using repeated lies and slick media consultants.
    We want you to wonder who is paying for all those ads and what they are getting back in return.
    It’s time to think for yourself.

    (judo- use an opponents strength against himself)

  • “Several Democratic insiders”… yeah, these are the people we should be listening to. The Shrums and Braziles and such.

    We can’t run from this political fight now any more than we could in 2002 or 2004. And as Angry Young Man eloquently sets out, we shouldn’t. The administration and their congressional enablers have gotten things wrong again and again and again. Their obsession with Iraq has inadvertantly strengthened a much more dangerous regional actor, Iran; given Rove’s fetish for “running on the war,” this debate probably will come up as well.

    The “Fighting Dems” are a gift from the gods in this regard. If we squander their appeal, which should go way beyond the individual districts in which they’re running, we’ll deserve to lose. If these women and men who have worn the uniform feel that Democrats are the party best positioned to defend the country, we should be able to make that view resonate among the voters in a nationalized contest.

  • On National Security (and, again, a crazy idea of mine):

    Why hasen’t anyone, either Repub or Dem, made a “call to arms”?

    I mean, if this is the last war to end all wars, or whatever, why hasn’t ANY politician asked Americans to help out?

    Something like:
    “Our army needs you! We are fighting a war in Iraq and Afghanistan that so many Americans believe is and was the right thing to do. And, yet, our military numbers, particularly in Iraq, are terribly inadequate. We need your help.”

    I’ll bet those crazy-azz repubs that still believe in what we’re doing over there will change their tune pretty quick.

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