If we’ve learned anything, we’ve learned that the Democratic race isn’t over

After Barack Obama’s Iowa victory — which was, oddly enough, just a month ago — there was no shortage of media speculation that the race for the Democratic nomination was effectively over. Hillary Clinton had come in third, she was poised to do poorly in New Hampshire, and she was running short on funds. “Everyone” knew the race was slipping away.

And then she won New Hampshire and Nevada, and “everyone” knew she was the frontrunner again. And then Obama cleaned her clock in South Carolina and “everyone” knew he was in the driver’s seat again. And then Clinton won California and New Jersey and “everyone” knew that she was still the odds-on favorite to win the nomination.

And now practically every factor is moving in Obama’s direction, and “everyone” knows the race may very well be over. This item in today’s Wall Street Journal is getting some attention.

Hillary Clinton’s public bet that Ohio and Texas will be the firewall that salvages her presidential hopes from immolation is shaping up to be the biggest gamble of her campaign — and perhaps the decisive one.

It was a wager that even critics say the New York senator had to make: Before last week’s near draw with Democratic rival Barack Obama in Super Tuesday’s 22 state contests, her campaign had foreseen trouble ahead for the rest of February. That rough patch is shaping up to be 10 straight defeats. Sen. Clinton needed to signal to supporters — and, more important, to donors — that there would be a place to stop the Obama momentum. […]

Yet each state offers opportunities for her rival, and both primaries are open to independent voters and even Republicans, who have supported Sen. Obama elsewhere. He arrives with momentum from his string of wins, all by wide margins, and more money for the airwave wars that began this week. In nearly every state that has voted to date, Sen. Clinton has led by double digits weeks before, only to see her leads melt by primary or caucus day.

All of this has the benefit of being true. But I feel like I’ve read this story before — in the first week in January — and it proved to be wrong.

After the irrational exuberance after Iowa, reporters seemed to learn a lesson — don’t draw too many sweeping conclusions too early. Voters have a way of surprising people, and rejecting storylines that “everyone” has already accepted.

To be sure, if I were a betting man, and was going to pick a candidate to win the nomination, my guess would be Obama. But that’s my guess right now based on the current landscape. I’ve seen the landscape shift more than once in the last few weeks, which is why the smartest move of all would be to not place any bets and wait to see what happens.

I get the sense, though, that much of the political world is feeling a little impatient right now. I’ve seen plenty of talk about what would happen in an Obama-McCain match-up, as if that phase of the campaign has already begun. There’s been some speculation about Obama’s short-list of running mates, as well.

Might I recommend taking a deep breath? Clinton has a legitimate shot in Wisconsin. She’s still leading in her “firewall” states of Texas and Ohio. She still has broad support among superdelegates, and a desire to do whatever it takes to win. Obama is giving inevitability a try — which strikes me as a good idea, given the circumstances — but Clinton isn’t about to just fade away.

Indeed, I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if, after March 4, the media does exactly what it did after New Hampshire, and write a bunch of introspective items about the echo chamber and excessively exaggerate trends. Then, the new narrative will be about the “miraculous Clinton comeback,” after the she’d been “left for dead” by the same people who’d effectively called the race.

Obviously, reality is hard to overlook here. Clinton is in a very tough spot, and time isn’t on her side. A few more headlines like the one about John Lewis, and the Obama snowball is going to look awfully big.

But we’re not there yet.

That’s true, and I believe you should never count out a Clinton. But what’s different now from IA/NH/SC is that we’re running out of states. The math for her to come out ahead on pledged delegates at this point is such that things are going to have to go exceptionally and unexpectedly well for her. Which of course it could.

  • I definitely don’t buy that Obama is “inevitable” or that Hillary is “finished”. It just isn’t true.

    However, the fact is that Hillary has “come back” only once, in New Hampshire, and the exit polling seems to indicate that it was because of her emotional moment the day before – there was an abrupt surge of women who came out of nowhere to support her – and they didn’t come from any of the other camps (Obama got just as much support in NH as he was expected to), they really came out of NOWHERE. It had to have been the tears.

    But that was just a lucky break – I bet Clinton was as surprised as any of us. She can’t do it again.

    California and New Jersey were not “comeback” states for her and I don’t think it’s fair for you to characterize the conventional wisdom as saying they were. The conventional wisdom said Super Tuesday was a tie, as it was.

    So Hillary has “come back” only once, out of pure luck, and now she’s in the position where she has to do it again. Compare with Obama who has come back twice, once in Iowa and once this last week, which were not due to luck but old-fashioned fighting. I don’t think Hillary can do it. Her campaign is a mess. Her firing of Solis Doyle was a smart and long-overdue move that will free up some competence, but she still has that parasitic jellyfish Mark Penn running the show.

  • Here in Texas we are pulling hard for Obama.

    I think Hillary is toast, but I will not rest until this is over.

  • I’m curious as to the effectiveness of the “inevitable” strategy.

    The races are all so close, that Obama painting himself as the inevitable nominee could very well lower voter turnout on his behalf. Not only does it lower the strength and urgency of the impetus pushing his supporters to go out and vote, but it hyper-motivates Clinton supporters, who will do anything to prove Obama wrong (no bias here, the same is true in reverse).

    It seems that every time a Democratic candidate becomes “inevitable” (by the candidate’s own mouth and the media’s), the voters step up and smack them down.

  • The Democratic race is not taking place in a vacuum. With the Republican side nearing their finish line, the sharp distinctions can now be drawn between the Republican candidate and the Democratic competitors. Considering that McCain has found a constituency among independents, who have also trended to Obama, complicates the picture. How these independents will be split in support of McCain and Obama remains to be seen. There is still room for any of the candidates to have their “macaca” moment destroying their chances, or their “there you go again” moment to sway to public toward them. I can’t count out either Clinton or Obama, but both would be way better than a McCain in the White House.

  • What’s special about March 4th, I think, is that if Clinton does not lead by double-digits in both Ohio and Texas, then it really is over. After a month of this back-and-forth that you detail, March 4th really Could Be the end. I’m not saying it Will Be the end, we will have to wait and find out, but there will not be a way back into the race for Clinton if she doesn’t win both Ohio and Texas on March 4th, and I think that is a newsworthy item that the media is trying to get across.

  • The races are all so close, that Obama painting himself as the inevitable nominee could very well lower voter turnout on his behalf. -NB

    Fortunately, I don’t see them pushing this too hard, but I feel the same way about this framing. It certainly didn’t work for Hillary when she was the ‘inevitible’ candidate.

    The polls should motivate Obama voters, though, since the most recent indicate a considerable Hillary lead.

  • Right now, she has to do better in Texas and Ohio than the polls are indicating she will, to make up the lost ground since Super Tuesday. My favorite little hawked-up bit of snot in a shiny suit – Mark Penn – may list all the delegates to be won in these races as somehow all being hers, but that’s not the case.

    Given the incompetence of her campaign – an incompetence only exceeded by those she authorized to go to war – I am sure that two weeks will be enough to cook this goose. Everything you hear from her supporters sounds more and more like “whistling past the graveyard” and reeks of the panther sweat of desperation.

  • Obama is giving inevitability a try
    After two Rove-run “unstoppable Bush” campaigns I’ve had my fill of the inevitability argument. It’s annoying, stupid, and generally wrong. The fact that Penn was using it for Hillary doesn’t make it smell any better. If I had my druthers then Obama would keep doing what he’s been doing and not start shoveling that same crap at us.

  • Further proof of my description of Mark Penn as a hawked-up gob of snot in a shiny suit:

    From the Huffington Post:

    Even as Sen. Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign was blasting Sen. Barack Obama for his ties to the Exelon Corporation, the firm of Mark Penn, Clinton’s chief strategist, was earning hundreds of thousands of dollars from the very same nuclear energy giant.

    This past week, Burson Marsteller, Penn’s powerhouse consulting agency, was paid more than $230,000 by Exelon to help renew a nuclear energy license in New Jersey, the Huffington Post has learned. The payment was for work that took place over several months, and Burson is still employed by the company.

    The fact that Hillary keeps Penn, McAuliffe, and all the other shiny little crooks around, and listens to their advice, says all one needs to know about what the third Clinton Administration will be like: McAuliffe selling overnights in the Lincoln Bedroom and Penn attacking every actual Democratic constituency in the party. More sellouts in favor of those who have made Bill and Hillary multi-millionaires from their “public” service.

  • I think the inevitability argument is for the superdelegates, not the voters. They need to assure superdelegates thinking of crossing over that Clinton is not going to win this thing. The downside is that it sets up the possibility of NH type surprises. I think we should just be concentrating on WI for the moment, if she pulls out a surprise win there this thing is wide open again, at least from the media’s point of view, and the power of the media to shape the narrative in this campaign has been huge.

  • We’re seeing a few comments about the possibility of a Clinton come back and far more about how the math works against Clinton. I’ve seen a few different people call the John Lewis endorsement of Obama the tipping point in his favor.

    Nobody really knows and considering that March 4 (which may or may not settle it) isn’t far away it is best to see how it plays out.

    The lessons of New Hampshire is often misinterpreted. The important thing isn’t that Clinton came back to win but that Obama came from far behind to keep it close enough to tie for delegates, and then beat Clinton for delegates in Nevada. The fact remains that every date there has been one or more contests, Obama has beaten or tied Clinton for delegates. Even if March 4 turns out to be her first winning day, it will probably not be enough.

    The odds remain in Obama’s favor. With proportional division of the delegates in Ohio and the bizarre rules in Texas it will be very hard for Clinton to pick up enough delegates to catch up to Obama unless she also does better than expected in some of the states expected to go for Obama.

    If Clinton remains significantly behind Obama in the delegates won, the super delegates will probably not come to her rescue. If they were so certain about Clinton, more would have endorsed Clinton at the start. Those who did not, and even some who did, such as John Lewis, are not going to damage the party’s chances for victory in November by overriding the voters.

  • I think the inevitability argument is for the superdelegates, not the voters.

    I agree. I only heard this argument once from the Obama campaign, and it was basically being whispered to the superdelegates. “Psst, I’m ahead, cover me!”

    Obama knows he has to be very, very careful about this. It’s ironic that being ahead is putting him in a tough position: if he doesn’t claim the status of frontrunner he risks looking silly, but if he does claim it he risks losing the insurgent spark that made him successful in the first place.

    My comforting thought is that Hillary is even more confused about how to be an insurgent.

  • One overlooked dynamic: Just before NH voters felt things were perhaps ending too early, and they took steps to keep things going. Right now? I think voters are antsy to make a decision.

  • Obama knows he has to be very, very careful about this.

    I think how he’s done it so far has been pretty brilliant, with the “I have to have hope, it’s pretty unlikely that I should even be here” theme. Simultaneously conveys that he’s doing well, but that it’s still against the odds.

  • Why exactly do people keep employing Mark Penn? His record is actually pretty piss-poor, right?

    It’s like Bob Shrum. “Sure, he’s 0-for-4, but I’m sure this will be his year! He’s due!”

  • Obama has not won any of the Big states yet except Illinois, his home state.
    Hill still has the Hispanic vote, which should win her Texas, and she is ahead in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

    I think the press has lost its way. It used to be a rule to report the news without becoming part of the news. I can’t think of any in the media that do that now.
    The race is too close to call, and we’re a long way from the finish line. That’s all they should say.

  • This whole new meme is making this Obama supporter very nervous about Wisconsin. I wish the media would dial it back to, oh, I don’t know, to zero?

  • Obama has not won any of the Big states yet except Illinois, his home state.

    Thanks for reminding us Mr. Penn.

  • I think the press has lost its way. It used to be a rule to report the news without becoming part of the news…

    I doubt you’re old enough to actually remember when that MIGHT have been true, dahlin…
    i barely do, and I’m 60-sumpin…

  • A possible scenario:

    March 4—Clinton’s “firewall” fails.

    March 5—Florida and Michigan “magically” regain their legitimacy.

    The betting window is now open….

  • The Clintons have the staying power of Gollom and Lord Voldemort.

    They also have the ethics of Gollom and Voldemort, which is why we cannot count them out.

  • #4 NB said’ Obama painting himself as the inevitable nominee ‘

    If Obama were so stupid as to do that in this situation, he wouldn’t have got this far.
    Is your suggestion a trial meme for Hillary supporters or are you just concerned?

  • Just thinking aloud here, but I think that the fact the McCain has sewn up the Republican nomination helps Obama with independents. People like to think that their vote matters; that it does something. For an independent who isn’t sure between Obama and McCain, there’s the thought that McCain doesn’t really need my vote as he already has the nomination, so I should vote for Obama. Which could help down the line in the general: having made a decision, people generally tend to look for information to confirm that they’ve made the correct one (kind of a confirmation bias).

    On the flip side, NB at #4 has a good point. Everyone loves an underdog, and will rally and work harder than they might otherwise to get them to win.

    Ultimately, I think Clinton’s deficit is too great: the margins she has been losing by means she’d have to win by comparable margins, and that just doesn’t seem very likely.

  • For me, it’s not the momentum or MSM narrative. Every time the Clintons were down in the 90’s, I always had the sense his enemies were out of control with rage and that they were preparing for a jujitsu move. What has always niggled at me that’s sort of come to the fore after the Atlantic Article, pieced together with what I’ve been reading at TPM is this:

    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2007/05/09/the_real_case_against_mark_pen/

    When Penn markets categories such as “soccer moms” and “office park dads,” he
    seems to be doing the same kind of
    analysis. But it’s hard to know, because unlike almost any other Democratic
    pollster, he never shows his work.
    Indeed, my first criticism of Penn was
    here
    in TPM Cafe last July, responding to an op-ed he co-wrote with James
    Carville making broad assertions such as that “Democratic and even independent
    women are thrilled with the idea” of Senator Clinton running for president, all
    without a single piece of data to support them. It is telling to compare the web
    sites of
    Penn,
    Schoen and Berland and that of Greenberg’s firm,
    Greenberg,
    Quinlan & Rosner: Both firms do plenty of work that is
    proprietary, and both have corporate clients. But Greenberg’s site is full
    of actual data — the link above goes to a page with 192 reports on U.S.
    politics, eleven since the beginning of this year alone! Penn’s site has
    nothing; a link to
    “read
    samples of our thinking” goes to a page with links to those same data-free
    op-eds! In short, we have no way of knowing whether Penn’s demographic
    analysis of the electorate is as rigorous as Pew’s or Greenberg’s or whether he,
    if you’ll forgive me some technical jargon, pulls it out of his ass.
    (see update below)

    I’ve read several comments like this before, about Penn’s reputation for fudging data to fit preconceived notions. Funny how the blogosphere immediately knew what an idiotic thing it was to hire Penn on her campaign. Even those who have kept themselves out of the primaries for neutral poses have made no bones about the daftness of having him on the team, as they were on top of it with Kyl-Leiberman, yet she doesn’t seem to see why faking numbers is a bad campaign strategy.

    I still worry, as Drum does, about Obama’s courage to LEAD the country to the left rather than ingratiating himself with the DC elite. His campaign has made me somewhat fear that he is joining the village more than out to upend it, and I’m not sure if that’s a Trojan Horse effort, and attempt to bring them along, or the inevitable indoctrination of all politicians into the DC mindset. But he at least appears to be more grounded at the moment.

    At the moment, I don’t sense any undercurrent that allows them to pull it back. Though, March is an eternity in politics, so maybe we can see them figure out some way to turn this thing around.

  • In Texas we have a 24 hour news station that plays clips from all the big cities local news stations. Her speech in San Antonio was in the que so I saw it several times and she is looking a little defeated. She has lost her confidence and looked… I don’t want to say desperate, but along those lines.

    She didn’t look politically healthy.

    Throughout the campaign I have always admired her resiliance to all the non-sense, it was one of her qualities I really respected. She was taking on more then anyone else and still looked stronger.

    Or maybe it was one weak speech from a couple sleepless nights.

    And is it me, or does this primary seem to be taking it toll on the candidates more then any other. They all look wore down, even Mittens, after what I presume was lots of sleep. Rudy looked like he could hardly stand up, McCain is saying crazy stuff, probably the same. Obama looks almost gray, and Hillary just looks plain tired. Huck looks sharp.

  • In case you didn’t click on the link at 10. above, here is the final paragraph that explains HRC’s problem in Texas.

    “Consider this: The two districts represented by black senators plus Austin will send a total of 21 delegates to Denver. The six Democratic districts with Hispanic senators will send 22.

    Even if you add the heavily Hispanic El Paso district represented by Sen. Eliot Shapleigh, the total is only 25.

    How does Clinton cut significantly into Obama’s delegate lead with that dynamic?

    It gets even worse. An additional 42 Texas delegates to the national convention will be chosen through a process beginning at caucuses at the closing of the polls March 4.

    Obama, probably because he generates more passion among his supporters, has won every caucus state but Nevada — several of them by margins of 3-to-1 and even 4-to-1.

    With that dynamic at play, it is not hard to imagine Clinton winning the popular vote in a tough Texas election, but actually losing ground in the delegate count.”

  • ScottW,

    Another example for your comments on how the primaries take their toll on the candidates. Fred Thompson knew he couldn’t keep up and decided to barely participate.

    I suspect how a candidate is affected by this can change from day to day, so I wouldn’t be too optimistic that Clinton will continue to look as unhealthy as in the clip you mentioned. Both candidates are going to put up a tough fight in the final stretch.

  • Could someone enlighten me to the possibility of Michigan and Florida delegates counting at the DNC. And if that were to occur, wouldn’t that scenario completely undermine party “reconciliation”???

  • Could someone enlighten me to the possibility of Michigan and Florida delegates counting at the DNC. -SV

    The only scenario that would seat their delegates is one of the remaining candidates to drop out. Otherwise, you are correct, the damage would be irreparable before November and the DNC knows that.

    Anyone who tells you otherwise is engaging in wishful thinking.

  • Florida delegates should be seated, and yes I am engaging in wishful thinking. I don’t really think it will happen, but it would be nice if close to 2 million votes from registered democrats (no republican interference) in the biggest swing state in the country were to actually mean something.

  • The central press was so busy bashing Clinton that they failed to explain why Florida moved the primary.

    The DNC rule “not to schedule a primary before February 5” was not violated because of Florida DEMOCRATS but rather, because the REPUBLICAN legislature tacked the earlier primary date on a bill that provided for paper ballots in Florida that had to be supported by democrats (we know from 2000 election that the paper trail is important). So the democrats were unable to stop the movement of the primary to an earlier date. To now punish the democrats by not counting their delegates is an outrage! Both candidates had the same opportunity to campaign in Florida. Obama did so by running cable TV ads. If anything, that should be a reason to count the primary votes! If Obama who is not my candidate wins because of disallowing the Florida vote it is dramatically unfair to Hillary. I feel disenfranchised and insulted by the DNC that my vote was not counted at the primary election and I don’t think only I feel that way. The Florida democrats had a record turnout. The individual voters should not be punished for the State’s decision. No caucus, no splitting even, no re-voting! Count my voice and the voice of Florida democrats!

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