In defense of ‘political disharmony’

It looks like the column of the day actually ran yesterday, with David Ignatius’ piece in the WaPo about the state of America’s readiness for another possible terrorist attack. Ignatius’ column believes we should all be more united. Behind who or what? Well, that’s the tricky part.

Ignatius describes what he believes would happen in the wake of another deadly assault.

Liberals would blame the Bush administration for making America a more vulnerable target. Didn’t the war in Iraq inflame Muslim terrorists around the world? Wouldn’t we have been safer today if we had focused on al-Qaeda in Afghanistan rather than embarking on a costly war that has sapped the military and CIA and added to America’s enemies? These arguments aren’t imaginary: We hear them every day, almost as rehearsals for the post-attack finger-pointing.

And how would conservatives respond? They would blame liberals, who, in their view, have weakened America’s anti-terrorism defenses. Couldn’t we have stopped the bombers if critics hadn’t exposed the National Security Agency’s secret wiretapping program? Wouldn’t aggressive CIA interrogation techniques have yielded more intelligence that might have prevented the tragedy? Didn’t congressional demands to withdraw from Iraq embolden the terrorists? I can hear the voices on talk radio and cable news right now.

Ignatius added that our divisions are so deep, we are not “politically healthy.” We had a shared sense of purpose after 9/11, but it has “totally…dissipated.”

I suppose some of this is, to an extent, true. Americans have substantive policy disagreements about national security and foreign policy. The past several years have, thanks to an intentional strategy, driven people apart. Ignatius’ description of what the arguments would be in the event of another attack is probably right.

But like most David Broder columns, Ignatius leaves out the important parts. Are the left’s arguments right? Are the right’s? What should Americans with sincere disagreements do? Ignatius doesn’t say. He simply wants the nation to “get serious, and to get ready.”

It all sounds very nice, except for the details. As Ignatius describes it, Americans simply need to get unified. Unified behind what? Behind unity.

I don’t doubt that Ignatius means well, but his argument is lazy and hard to take seriously. It’s easy to urge Americans to get together; it’s a challenge to lay out an agenda for them to rally behind. It’s simple to tell people to stop arguing; it’s hard to talk about solutions.

Ignatius’ column sings the virtues of national unity as if policy differences were inherently petty and parochial. They’re not. Those arguments he attributes to the left and right are indicative of a serious disagreement about the direction of the country. His Post column seems to suggest that the debates simply end so that we can all get together, arm in arm, against our common foes.

But that’s not “politically healthy.” As Atrios put it:

It’s an interesting phenomenon with people who spend much of their lives in the Beltway that they forget that disagreement is at the root of politics. It isn’t a flaw. People have genuine disagreements about stuff. There’s nothing wrong with that. There’s no virtue in everyone agreeing about everything, even if they all happen to agree with David Ignatius. It’s frightening, not delightful, when people blindly line up to support their nominal leaders.

Ignatius believes we’re not prepared for the “next attack.” I’m very much inclined to agree. If he wants to perhaps talk about what we should do about this in his next column, I’ll be sure to take it seriously.

Scarcely any of the “leadership” from Dems or ReThugs aims to “unify” Americans behind what makes a great deal of sense to me — the universal commonalities of our freedoms and rights guaranteed by the Constitution and American National Security (not Iraqi National Security). Ask yourself, why?

  • If unity is the goal, and since 70% of us hate Bush’s guts, maybe Ignatius should tell the fringe minority holdouts to get with the program and admit that this administration sucks so bad it makes your teeth hurt. Or maybe Ignatius thinks the vast majority of us should just learn to “Embrace the Suck”.

    And if the nation needs to get ready for another attack, maybe we should enact the rest of the 9/11 Commission’s recommendations? Like maybe inspect shipping containers?

    Someone… please put less Stupid Sauce on the Beltway Fries.

  • Ignatius wants every one to be scared together. His unifying thread tying us all as one is fear. Remember on the morning of September 12th, 2001 when we were all scared together? … Good times (at least according to Ignatius.)

    Now that it’s been nearly six years later and instead of being still shocked by he sight of planes flying into buildings in New York City, we’ve been numbed by the incessant reports of car bombs in Baghdad and the ever increasing toll of US troops killed that have eclipsed 9/11’s death toll by the hundreds. We’re used to death now and not shocked by it anymore. Poor Ignatius. We were all so much more gullible and docile back in 2001, now we contest the veracity of his. Rodney King was much more convincing when he asked us all to get along. Ignatius? Not so much.

  • Being “unified” isn’t how to prepare for the next attack. Getting the Department of Homeland Security to take its job seriously is.

  • It’s easy to urge Americans to get together; it’s a challenge to lay out an agenda for them to rally behind. It’s simple to tell people to stop arguing; it’s hard to talk about solutions.

    Ignatius’ column sings the virtues of national unity as if policy differences were inherently petty and parochial. They’re not. Those arguments he attributes to the left and right are indicative of a serious disagreement about the direction of the country. His Post column seems to suggest that the debates simply end so that we can all get together, arm in arm, against our common foes.

    I agree with your criticism of Ignatius’ column.

    But isn’t this also pretty much the main plank of Obama’s presidential platform? Isn’t that a much more serious matter? Why does Obama get a free pass? Why is no one debating that too?

  • When you have an Administration and Congress who, for the past 6+ years have only responded to their core base, while questioning the patriotism and smearing the views of the rest of us, who, for short-sighted and partisan reasons, absolutely refuse to move forward on any ideas that might give the Democrats a “win”, and who ignore the basic tenets and laws upon which this country has always worked, and which presumably already presents an “American consensus” – who exactly do you blame then for the fact that there is disunity?

  • It’s easy to urge Americans to get together; it’s a challenge to lay out an agenda for them to rally behind.

    Isn’t that basically what Clinton did with his triangulation?

    Of course, Clinton ticked off a lot of liberals because he was closer to the center than the left wanted him to be.

    How soon we forget how mad a lot of liberals were at Clinton for things like welfare reform and some trade agreements.

    A lot of people here call me all sorts of names when I say something to the right of where they think we should be. I don’t think I have stated one conservative view on these boards but many people rant against me for even stating that the far left is not always the answer.

    Go back to the 90’s.

    Look at what Clinton did. He governed from left of center, he didn’t govern from the far left.

    As a general rule, left of center is the place that makes the most sense..

  • I think there is a way to harmonize Carpetbagger’s point with Ignatius’ point. Certainly we can, should, and likely always will disagree on politics and policy. The lack of a shared sense of national purpose that transcends differences over individual policies or decisions, however, is a newer and more problematic phenomenon. We have lost the ability to “disagree without being disagreeable.” And that is regrettable.

    But it also was not an accident, nor is it hard to figure out what went wrong. Still Ignatius, Broder and others want to engage in false equivilences, or broad dissipation of fault, or use of the passive voice to suggest that magically the ethereal concept of unity just grew legs and of its own volition walked out of the room.

    The Rethugs have, since the days of Lee Atwater, intentionally engaged in a strategy of division and polarization, of mobilizing the far reaches of the base on the expectation they could eliminate any middle. The first step to repairing this rift in the political fbric of the country is to accurately diagnose it, and to forthrightly call out those who have pulled the threads. You want civility? Stigmatize Karl Rove and quit booking Ann Coulter. Counterintuitive as it may sound, if you want to ensure continued dis-unity, continue providing Rethugs cover by casting a pox on everyone’s house equally.

  • Were it not for those who whip up the masses into frenzied partisanship for their own political or monetary gain, I don’t think we’d see such sharply divided opinions ( such as in an earlier post today regarding support for impeachment: D-69, R-17).

    That kind of split is ridiculous, yet it’s exactly what Bill O, Rush, Coulter and Hannity promote. It’s what Delay, Frist, Cheney, and Bush thrive on — not to mention wacked-out, so-called “religious” leaders. Bottom line: decades of sowing hatred for all things liberal has borne rotten fruit.

    Until we expose those who live to spread fear and hatred as small, pitiful paranoids, their passionate appeals are likely to resonate with those more inclined to emotion than reason.

    If we don’t, the culture wars Bill O sees in his delusions could become real. But unlike our last civil war, this one won’t be between states but between households and individuals within households.

    I agree with neil wilson (7) that Clinton’s famed triangulation, derided by both sides, was the closest thing to governing by seeking common ground. (He was also the first 2-term Democratic president since Truman/Roosevelt). But by the time Clinton took office, the water was already poisoned — he was attacked by both sides for not standing for anything. Repubs actually hated him for “stealing” their ideas, i.e., going along with parts of their agenda. How’s that for ingrained partisanship!

  • Others, (Petorado, Ethel, and Beep52 for example) have aptly noted that the divisions in this country have been created by the right-wing in their quest to purge our nation of dissenters. It seems that the call for “unity” is probably an attempt to maintain that agenda. It is unity on their terms. They continue to behave as if they represent some kind of majority, still trying to suppress the “minority” of the left.

  • Unity?
    What a great idea!
    Junk the DC DEM and DC GOP setup and go with one national party that represents all Americans and call it the American Unity Party.
    Being thus unified Americans then can take American Empire farther and deeper surely with greater focus and success of outcome.
    Or perhaps speaking of unity is somewhere off target. That seems the more accurate view.
    There is a three part reveal over at TomDispatch.com about the current DOD secretary,his past and a very compact overview of the CIA.
    Upon reading that one perhaps can gain a better perspective about how skeptical one perhaps should be when talk of “the next 9/11” is being bantered about.
    At this point in time it is beneficial to understand that much of what we Americans were told and led to believe during the Cold War Epoch was as much geared to WashDC tribal,clan and sect politics as it ever was to any real or imagined Global Commie Threat.
    Same caveat seems very useful regarding this GWOT and the fearmongering that infests it.
    Americans are spending/funding somewhere around one trillion dollars per year these days to be/feel safe on this planet Earth.
    There are a wide array of vested interests who do not want to see that number reduced and very much are hankering for it to be increased.
    American Militarism and it’s twin,American Corporatism are two very real powers that be in WashDC.
    They are fully embedded in both current DC political gangs and also are
    viable separate DC third political parties when/ where required or of benefit.
    David Ignatius is a WashDC creature and he is given a big page at the Washington Post. His take on unity seems too much DC flavored to me.
    Americans have clearly put up a spotty and oft times plain nasty record of conduct around the world since WW2 ended.
    It is very doubtful Americans can lay claim to being the good guys when that record is considered under light or in it’s entirety.
    The United States surely is a big target for lots of reasons these days for lots of people who perhaps have concluded we indeed are not the good guys. That would seem to be a natural outcome. Surely within the bounds of chartable outcomes.
    Upon reading that three part reveal mentioned up top one perhaps can see more clearly that we Americans are going to have to get smarter,better and more in line on clarity of view,integrity and truth/fact adherence.
    The larger problem in WashDC these days,contrary to D.I.’s take is the lack of viable adversarial WashDC take apart and makeover.
    If anything is true it is Americans need more debate and more reveal.
    Not less.
    We should be more concerned about integrity and clarity of perception.
    Fear of attack?
    FDR many decades now past in the midst of the last century made a clear point about fear. It is as true today as it was then.
    Better seeing,thinking and reasoning will give all Americans the best defense against fear.
    None of these require trillion dollar funding either.

  • (He was also the first 2-term Democratic president since Truman/Roosevelt).

    Wait a sec – if you’re going to count it like that, then it was Kennedy/Johnson

  • Wait a sec – if you’re going to count it like that, then it was Kennedy/Johnson

    Right you are. Should have stuck with FDR as the last D elected to a second term, even if Truman did serve all but the first 82 days of Roosevelt’s last.

  • To take comment # 10 a bit further…. Isn’t that how the Republicans usually work…. They don’t want to work together as long as they’re in the majority… They only started talking about playing nice together and put partisanship behind us, after November 06. That didn’t last very long… They want everybody to agree with them and if that doesn’t work, because less than 30% of the nation actually supports you, then, and only then, do you start talking about ‘unity’ and working together again…. As long as it is THEIR unity idea.

    When was the last time a Right winger actually agreed and compromised on their own, without being in a corner? Anybody? Didn’t think so…

  • Yeah, we’re at war. We’re at war with our own.

    Phreakin rightwing nutz are leading us to hell in a hand basket, and enabling consolidation of wealth to the 1%’ers.

    Christian Fundie’s want to abolish science, and rule by their version of Sharia Law.

    The South wants to rule again, and won’t let it go.

    And some 77% think this war, and this admin, is fulla shit.

    So how come we are still NOT UNIFIED?

    We’re unified as all hell and get out, and we are unified about GETTING the asshats who GOT us into this OUT of our government, out of our business, and our of our lives.

    But, somehow, 77% is LOSING ITS ASS in this war.

    Wusses. Across the board. Until it’s in the streets like we boomers did ONCE in our lifetimes, this war is OVER, and the 23% will win.

    NOTHING will change until the american people take to the streets in peaceful demonstration and protest, vote OUT the creeps we elected to save us who have DESERTED US, and that’s gonna take sacrifice, job loss, labor stoppages, and all the things we boomers had to do in the late 60’s and early 70’s.

    N then, we even let Ford pardon that fuck Nixon.

    N THAT, let the slime of the neocon’s back in the game, and they are killin us, for a SECOND time.

    Cheney was intimate in it all, so was BoyKings Daddy . . . and Rove, the whole PNAC cabal, and the whole first BoyKing Admin . . . and this admin, too. All Nixon compadres.

    N we boomers went to sleep, and let them all back into the game, instead of flooding the basement for a decade in heavily salted water to ensure even their corpses and bones would rot.

    We let them up off the mat, and now, we are SO dead meat.

    No rumble? Kiss yer country goodby, it’s mostly gone anyway . . .

    Harumph.

  • NSA Illegal Wiretapping was in place BEFORE 9/11 and did not stop it because intercepted phone calls announcing the attacks were not TRANSLATED. Bush promoted the person who ran that program to head the CIA.

    Torture of al-Liddy produced Baloney about WMD in Iraq.
    Congress demanded our Army catch bin Laden. Bush withdrew from Afghanistan and redeployed to Iraq without permission, literally funneling money and resources to his own project.

    Ignatius, terrorist acts have not increased seven fold since America’s invasion and occupation of Iraq.

  • I think I can predict the motto for the Unity folks:

    “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer!”

    Seriously, Triumph of the Will was filmed during a rally for “Einheit und Stark” (Unity and Strength). Don’t these people know they’re sounding creepier by the minute?

  • Remember, David Ignatius is a media whoremonger. He doesn’t give a shit about who’s right (ususually the left), only about what cuntcrumbs he can lick for his masters.

    Total fucking whore is Mr. Ignatius. Anyone who says we should’ve attacked Iraq for 9/11 is not only bonkers, but out of his war-mongering mind. If you lie once, you will lie twice, you will lie always, Mr. Ignatius.

    You, sir, like George W. Bush, Dick Cheney, and Joe Lieberman seem to be on the side of the liars and the killers. Show me proof that you are not, that you resist their perfidy.

  • I’m totally in favor of unity. And, given that the Republicans’ pre-9/11 decisions and priorities contributed to the success of the most successful terrorist attack in the nation’s history, I think they should just admit they were wrong and unite behind the Democrats’ priorities.

    See, unity is easy!

  • And by the way, where was Ignatius’s concern about unity during the Gingrich years? Or during the rise of Rush Limbaugh? Why is it that the first calls for less partisanship and more civility occurred after liberals and Democrats began to push back against 25 years of Falwellism, Gingrichism and Limbaughlotry?

  • If there’s a way to do it, what we really need to do is get behind the recommendations of the 9/11 commission, many of which have still not been implemented. If Rudy’s the man to prepare and protect us, Why can’t the NYC firemen and police talk to each other o a common radio frequency yet?

  • Continuing Post 11s’ remarks:
    Lets’ consider doing what is right for just once in our history. Consider First this countrys’ true history both within and abroad. It is Not a pretty picture.
    Every administration, some “better,” some worse, have punished the general public everywhere in the world to benifit the bottom line of the ruling classes-(general shorthand for the wealthy/politically connected-advantaged, and powerful corporations-all usually linked with religeous factions). This has been a disaster for the overwhelming majority of people on earth.
    If you look at it all honestly, it is clear that wealthis not created by banks or corporations or stock markets, but by workers’ labor using earths’ natural resources. The former create nothing, but rather appropriate this wealth for their own, to be used to control the general public. On occasion crumbs are distributed to forstall rebellion when oppression becomes unbearable to enough to threaten ruling control, but otherwise, wealth and power accumalation just continues, to the detriment of the public everywhere.

  • The debate tends to split on partisan lines which is unfortunate. Neo-cons appear to have sown hatred against the US which may be faced by the succeeding generations. An AP report indicates that, at least, in 26 countries the US diplomats can’t function properly due to fears of security. Most of such stations have been declared no-family assignments. This deters them from doing their job to create goodwill for US as they remain tied down to their diplomatic missions. It also costs a lot of extra money to the tax-payers. Such tensions also deter qualified persons from joining the Foreign Service. The report highlights that this is the worst time for the Foreign Service since 1924.

    I wonder how many Americans remember the warning given by President Eisenhower in the following quote of 1960, “
    “we yet realize that America’s leadership and prestige depend, not merely upon our unmatched material
    progress, riches and military strength, but on how we use our power in the interests of world peace and
    human betterment…Throughout America’s adventure in free government, our basic purposes have been to
    keep the peace; to foster progress in human achievement, and to enhance liberty, dignity and integrity
    among people and among nations. To strive for less would be unworthy of a free and religious people.
    Any failure traceable to arrogance, or our lack of comprehension or readiness to sacrifice would inflict
    upon us grievous hurt both at home and abroad.
    This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American
    experience. The total influence — economic, political, even spiritual — is felt in every city, every
    State house, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.

    In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether
    sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced
    power exists and will persist.” IKE 1960.

    Therein lies the rub. The status quo props dictators in Muslim countries to protect ’US interests’ which is playing havoc with the American goodwill. Not are the Americans at risk so are the moderate Muslims all over whose interests get sacrificed by the US Administrations for promoting ‘special interests.’ Removing Saddam was fine but the occupation was believed to be dictated by the oil-lobby. MNCs have made Billions in all kinds of transactions, mostly questionable but the citizens will pay the price for such plunder. Afghanistan too is experiencing a rise in cost of the occupation making the whole area unsafe for the Americans and their ‘friends’ as well as Moderate Muslims. See how Pakistan is struggling as its ‘strongman’ is hell-bent on sticking to power with US blessings. In the process, democracy is being banished which would only promote extremism and help the Taliban all the way making the area more unsafe for all, including the US citizens.

  • David Ignatius’s claim that America is unprepared for the next terror attack is refuted by his own words. Of course America is prepared – conservatives are prepared to blame liberals and liberals are prepared to blame conservatives. Everyone has their talking points. What more can you ask for?

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