In S-CHIP debate, considering the ‘perverse and incoherent’

In the context of the right’s bizarre attack on 12-year-old Graeme Frost and his family, the WaPo’s E. J. Dionne Jr. takes a closer look at the policy context of the smear. Unwilling to just “condemn the right-wingers as meanies,” Dionne wants to “seriously” consider how the right looks at the same problems underpinning the broader debate.

In the process, he finds — wouldn’t you know it — that some of the same people attacking the Frosts are engaged in “a perverse and incoherent form of class warfare.”

Most conservatives favor government-supported vouchers that would help Graeme attend his private school, but here they turn around and criticize him for … attending a private school. Federal money for private schools but not for health insurance? What’s the logic here?

Conservatives endlessly praise risk-taking by entrepreneurs and would give big tax cuts to those who are most successful. But if a small-business person is struggling, he shouldn’t even think about applying for SCHIP.

Conservatives who want to repeal the estate tax on large fortunes have cited stories — most of them don’t check out — about farmers having to sell their farms to pay inheritance taxes. But the implication of these attacks on the Frosts is that they are expected to sell their investment property to pay for health care. Why?

Oh, yes, and conservatives tell us how much they love homeownership, and then assail the Frosts for having the nerve to own a home. I suppose they should have to sell that, too.

Dionne posed these as rhetorical questions, but let’s take them one at a time anyway.

First, yes, many conservatives believe it’s great for public funds to finance private school tuition, but wrong for public funds to finance private healthcare plans. The difference is, these same conservatives don’t like public schools. Helping kids is irrelevant.

Second, yes, these same conservatives talk about small businesses with a certain fondness, but only in the context of tax cuts. If a small-business owner can’t afford healthcare, then the family is supposed to go without — or apparently rely on private donations from generous people in the community who are somehow willing to subsidize private insurance.

Third, these conservatives really do expect the Frosts to sell their modest row house to help pay for health insurance. As Tom Tomorrow imagined it, for those who are fortunate enough to find an insurance company willing to cover them, cutting back on having a home in order to pay for insurance — “in case anything bad happens to me” — makes perfect sense.

Dionne added, “Conservatives claim to be in favor of stable families, small businesses, hard work, private schools, investment and homeownership. So why in the world are so many on the right attacking the family of Graeme Frost?”

Because they got in the way, and might have encouraged others to do the same. See how easy this is to understand?

To put E.J.’s observations in one sentence, it would read, ” Conservatives do not like anything that they do not benefit from more greatly than what they put into it.”

  • This is the issue that has demonstrated just how vile these republicans be. There’s no way to spin their rotten behavior and never again will I see them as anything but low life scum no matter how they dress themselves up.

  • Also, these vermin are deeply committed to the Fuhrerprinzip, so once He came out against S-CHIP, the whole thing played out with utter predictability.

  • One universal characteristic of these people is that they suffer the delusion that they are self sufficient, that everything they have they earned, that they are in no way dependent upon society for anything at all. So they demand that everyone else be just as rugged and self sufficient as they are. “I earned everything I have. Why should my money go for some lazy slob to get it for free?”

    But they are truly delusional. They seem to lack the intellect to appreciate just how connected and dependent upon our society that we all are. And it’s so easy to see it. All you have to do is imagine that this is the year 1907, not 2007. What would you have? What would your life be like? Would you have all those things, that life style you “earned” by yourself? Of course not. You’d have nothing compared to what you have today. So how in hell can you claim you earned it all?

    It just baffles me that these people can’t see that.

  • This proves a point Barney Frank made years ago in the context of the abortion debate: Conservative concerns about poor children start at conception and end at birth.

    And to those say the rich are worthy because they earn their wealth, while the poor unworthy because their poverty flows from bad choices and bad behavior, I have two words in response:

    Paris Hilton

  • Point the first: Conservative positions on school vouchers are taken in an effort to destroy the public education system. This is consistent with their desire to “drown the government in the bathtub.” Republicans don’t care about education.

    Point the second: Conservatives are in favor of business, sure, but only big business. Small business owners with any success and intelligence figure out quick that Republican governments are bad for their small businesses – especially their tax policies. Republican’s don’t care about small business owners.

    Point the third: Conservatives only care about taxes on rich people. Farmers are a red herring – they don’t give a crap about family farms and the inheritance tax. if they did, they’d pass legislation that narrowly focused estate taxes in such a way that they protect family farms. It would pass in a landslide – so they won’t do that. Republicans don’t care about family farms.

    Point the fourth: That’s just a red herring to get tax cuts for their own mansions. Republicans don’t care about homeowners.

    In conclusion – Republican’s don’t care about anything that doesn’t benefit them directly. That’s how you can tell that they’re Republicans. And that’s why I’m not a Republican anymore – greedy assholes.

  • It’s not just true that “rich neocons don’t care about anything that doesn’t affect them positively.”

    It’s ALSO true that “rich neocons care about anything that affects YOU NEGATIVELY.”

    It’s not enough that they get richer; YOU have to get poorer.

    It’s not enough that your children need S-CHIP, you should have to sacrifice your home and starve (you know, cause food stamps are for a-holes) in order to get health insurance, that, by the way, won’t cover malnutrition or any illnesses you incur because you were sleeping outside because you can’t afford a home.

    But don’t forget, 9/11 changed everything, and if you compain at all about tax cuts for the wealthy or Bush’s S-CHIP veto, than you hate American, and the terrorists won, and you may as well learn to roll your own turban now. Scum.

  • First, yes, many conservatives believe itโ€™s great for public funds to finance private school tuition, but wrong for public funds to finance private healthcare plans. — CB

    That one’s easy. We *have* public education; undermining it with publicly-funded vouchers for private schools does two things: a) it lets your friends in the private ed. sector skim off a bit of tax-supported fat and b) will, hopefully, lead to the final destruction of yet another public service institution. But we don’t have public healthcare for all, the way we have public ed., so there’s nothing to destroy. And no profit to be had.

    Ie, what NonyNony said, @6, but a more long-winded version ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Conservatives, in their current incarnation, believe the only legitimate function of government is to make them richer, or at least not less rich. Since, in their greedy minds, most functions of government aren’t legitimate, their perverse logic says it’s OK to divert all that ill-gotten gain (the gov’t’s tax revenues) into the pockets of the worthy. Which is them. It’s really all very simple, if you’re one of them.

    Destroy all public institutions, support the military/industrial/intelligence complex, and scream and shout “Socialism” at any attempt to treat a broader cohort of people fairly or as a community with a common interest.

    They are all really quite shallow and easily predicted.

  • The Frosts have an investment property????
    Is it so wrong that maybe they SHOULD sell it before getting a handout? Investments are, in part, to pay for things like health problems, aren’t they? What DO we invest for if not? Retirement? Isn’t a key expense of retirement health care?

    Ironically, getting everyone under Medicare would require just that kind of sacrifice by the Frosts, but the GOP opposes the move that would force the result they’re hoping for!
    (I may be confusing it with MedicAID requirements, forgive me.)

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