‘Is the country better off now than seven years ago?’

John Cole noted this morning, “I honestly cannot recall a State of the Union address which has received less hype.” Neither can I. Usually, even for lame-duck presidents, the SOTU is a pretty significant moment of political theater. I remember the last addresses for Reagan and Clinton drew quite a bit of attention, but going into tonight’s speech, no one, on either side, seems to care at all. I frequently get the sense the country is asking Bush, almost in unison, “You’re still here?”

Of course, the SOTU invariably leads to some reflection and introspection. Today, for example, a reporter asked White House Press Secretary Dana Perino a very good question: “Is the country better off now than seven years ago?” Given the response, I don’t think Perino was prepared for the question.

“Certainly seven years ago — well, seven years ago, right before September 11th, I think that people would say that the country certainly felt better off. There’s been — once we were confronted with terrorists who would fly jumbo jets into buildings and kill thousands of our citizens in an instant, it created a sense of fear and nervousness about our security. And that’s why the President decided to take on the terrorists head on and go on the offense.

“And we have done that around the world. We have been successful so far in preventing another attack on our country. But it’s not for their lack of trying. And that’s another reason why the President — tonight you’ll hear him call on Congress to pass the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act reauthorization. They have until Friday to do that, and the President sees no reason why they shouldn’t be able to get that done.”

Um, Dana? (Can I call you “Dana”?) The question was, “Is the country better off now than seven years ago?” The fact that you couldn’t answer it — you barely tried — doesn’t exactly reflect well on Bush’s presidency.

Of course, this shouldn’t come as too big a surprise. What, exactly, could Perino say?

Consider, for example, what Rahm Emanuel, chairman of the House Democratic Caucus, explained today in a WaPo op-ed.

At the dawn of the 21st century, conventional wisdom was that America held unmatched cultural, economic and military power. George F. Will wrote: “It is good to be alive in America at the end of the first (but not the last) American century.” In late 1999, Charles Krauthammer wrote: “No other nation has exercised such military, economic, diplomatic and cultural reach since Rome. . . . America bestrides the world like a colossus.”

Boy, have times changed.

As 2007 drew to a close, a Newsweek International cover featured the image of a bruised Uncle Sam slumped in a boxing ring, under the headline: “Can America Get Back on Top?”

So what happened? How did we go from dominant military, economic and cultural superpower to battered fighter in the corner?

As President Bush prepares to deliver his final State of the Union address today, it’s fair to judge his tenure by assessing the country he inherited and the country he will leave behind. By any examination, the Bush administration has weakened the nation.

I’m hard pressed to imagine how any reasonable person could disagree. Has everyone seen this chart? Are there any indicators that have moved in the right direction since Bush took office in 2001?

Something to keep in mind while watching tonight’s theatrics — if you’re watching tonight’s theatrics.

Has everyone seen this chart?

Just a reminder that the first column is accurately considered Bill Clinton’s accomplishments.

What I find more than a little scary is that the bottom several rows — all of the other countries viewing us much less favorably — there is a certain non-trivial segment of the Republican party who will view that as a positive thing, as a badge of honor.

  • Some of the hardest-core Republicans I know are just waiting for this beating to be over. They know they screwed the pooch, and there’s nothing they can do about it. What’s sad is that they talk about McCain as if he will restore the integrity of the whitehouse, without admitting that they were the ones who selected the loser who shat the bed in more ways than even his harshest critics predicted.

    I think I’ll tape the SOTU, just for the sadly comedic value. The last SOTU of the worst president ever. The only way he’ll achieve less than expected is if he gives us all the finger on live television.

    For all you “conservative” lurkers, here’s your guy, doing what he does best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVynnbx1Xsc

  • The only way he’ll achieve less than expected is if he gives us all the finger on live television.

    In its own odd way, that might increase my respect for him. It’d mark the first time he was honest about his feelings toward most of us.

  • I pictured Bush strolling to the podium to halfhearted applause, beginning his speech to stony silence, then tapping the microphone and asking, “Is this thing on?”

    CB, will you be watching the SOTU address? So I don’t have to?

  • What I remember about Clinton’s last SOTU was that NBC in Hagerstown MD didn’t air it, even though much of their viewing area doesn’t get any other channels without cable or satellite or at least a WV state tree (roof antenna). For those who care, Maryland did win the basketball game, though. Fox in DC also showed the game.

    As for Emanuel’s op-ed piece, I was a bit dismayed that he was also pushing another 401K style fix for social security. Isn’t part of the problem with our economy that government policies have put so much dumb money (retirement accounts with money from people who don’t have any idea what they are doing), that CEO’s are hired to focus more on stock price than actual earnings. This is largely the reason for the Enron style accounting games and the absurd bonuses.

  • I have to say that I normally eschew SOTU’s because they’re either laundry lists or calls for things that won’t get done anyway. That said, I’m buying a bottle of wine for this one. Every time Bush mispronounces a word I’ll take a sip. I should be on the floor before the thing is half over.

  • Come one, Of course the country is better off than it was 7 years ago

    Perino said: “Seven years ago we had far higher tax rate. Seven years ago we were already in a recession. Seven years ago, we had a liberal court which wasn’t following the Constitution.

    “More recently, we have had a record period of uninterupted job growth. Before President Bush we had never had 48 months in a row where the economy added jobs.

    “The US is respected around the world. We no longer have to worry about what goes on in the Oval Office. We have a President we can be proud of.”

    That is what Perino should have said

  • Dennis, That sounds like the sanest way to listen to Bush. Taking a sip is so much better than cringing, which is what I do. If Bush had a sense of humor, he’d hire a look alike to do the speech for him.

  • It’s probably smart that she didn’t answer the question as it’s a very slippery slope once she does start down that road. She will probably have a job after Nov. ’08 because she didn’t answer it.

    But being a liberal, I ask myself this question quite a bit lately and it’s not that I always answer ‘No we are not better off than we were seven years ago’, but rather ‘Are we still even the same country we were seven years ago’…… We have successfully disregarded the Geneva Convention in keeping prisoners of war in Qitmo for over 5 years, we have two right wingers on the bench now in the Supreme Court, we have invaded a sovereign nation which posed no threat to us and are in the middle of a civil war in that nation, all the while our so-called leaders sat by and disregarded the advice of the former administration which brought about 9/11 and we have yet to bring the person responsible for that atrocity to justice yet even though we had a chance to get him at one point in time. Whew…. I can go on but I’m getting more and more depressed about the good ole’ you ess of ayyy these days.

  • RacerX @ 2: “is if he gives us all the finger on live television.”

    Andrew Sullivan points out that one of his “guests” (an HIV victim from Tanzania) is technically in the US illegally. Let’s see how many Republicans stay seated when she is mentioned.

  • Are you freaking kidding me? Medical insurance costs $12 GRAND a year to the average household, but the median income is only 4x that? *How*on*earth is it that the USA has not found a way to bring that down? That’s nothing short of blatant, disgusting extortion of the American people.

    I don’t understand how there can be any ambiguity from any presidential contender about bringing this down. If I was paying that kind of money for health insurance every year, you could be damn sure that the person I’d vote for, and get everyone I know to vote for, would be the one who has a concrete, real plan to bring that down to beat first-world per-capita medical costs. There is absolutely no reason that a country that does so much research and produces so much innovation in medicine should not also be bringing those benefits effectively and economically to its populace.

  • ‘Is the country better off now than seven years ago?”

    Well, we know not to bother watching tonight’s SOTU. Other than that, “no” — or did you mean, “cun-chree?”

  • if you’re watching tonight’s theatrics

    No, sir. Not watching as usual. I may check in on thinkprogress.org to see what they’re liveblogging.

    I may check in occasionally though to see if Gov. Sebelius’ response is on yet. I’m interested in watching that – it will be a good Veep audition.

  • Some may ask, “You’re still here?” My only question is, “Now, will you sit down and shut up.”

  • “Are there any indicators that have moved in the right direction since Bush took office in 2001?”

    His approval ratings.

  • Don’t worry everybody. Bush will clear up all your doubts and fears tonight. You just don’t have the inside info he has.

  • one thing can be said with a certain amount of hope — this country will be better off in a year.

  • Personally I feel like a homeowner who had some thugs enter my house, tie me up and steal everything I had in the house. Then they stole my bank account numbers and raped my daughter. After that they drained my pension fund and then they called the police and had me arrested. That’s what I feel like seven years later. That’s pretty much what has happened to our great nation, and I don’t even have a kid in the military.

  • Over the past seven years George W. Bush spent his political capital, looted the national treasury, wasted the lives of nearly 4,000 US troops while running our proud military into the ground, tarnished our national prestige, infiltrated and corrupted the national bureaucracy, pissed on the Constitution, tampered with the integrity of the Supreme Court and ground down this nation’s economy … and all we have to show for it is a f*cking optimistic rug and a cool sword from Saudi Arabia. That’s the State of our Union George. Saved you the work.

  • Well, if you are a war mongering, Constitution hating, brown people loathing, corporatist, then things are looking swell!

  • Seven years ago, there were people who didn’t like the United States much. Seven years ago, there were those who held the opinion that America should not dabble in the political process of foreign governments, so as to throw the election to a pro-American candidate. Seven years ago, there were those who were just plain jealous of America’s success and panache on the world stage – what’s the phrase? Ah, yes…..hated you for your freedoms.

    Those people will always be around, because there’s no pleasing some individuals or movements, no matter how you abase yourself or beg for dialogue to help you correct your evil ways. Those people and movements will be around seven years from now, and seven hundred years from now if the world goes on much as it has to this point.

    However, I can’t recall a period when America was so loathed as it has been under Bush, or a period when the judgment of its citizens was held in such low esteem for giving him another four-year turn at the helm after pulsing-red-light alarms that he was just a useful-idiot figurehead for the worst influences in the country.

    Here, try this blast from the past – from 2003, to be more specific; “I think George Bush is the most corrupt American president since Harding in the Twenties. He is not the legitimate president. This really is a completely unsupportable government and I look forward to it being overthrown as much as I looked forward to Saddam Hussein being overthrown”.

    Who said that? That’s right, Mayor Ken Livingstone, mayor of the capital and largest city of your staunchest ally.

    And oh, my, did things ever go downhill from there. In my humble opinion, the United States that emerges from the next election is going to expend the new president’s entire first term just getting the domestic scene back on track, before any serious thought can be devoted to international reengagement.

  • In my humble opinion, the United States that emerges from the next election is going to expend the new president’s entire first term just getting the domestic scene back on track, before any serious thought can be devoted to international reengagement.

    That’s impossible, unfortunately. As the philosopher once said “the US is part of the world”[*] – in fact, as this current economic meltdown is showing, the US is still a driving force in the world whether other countries like it or not. And that means that the next President has to be able to work on domestic and foreign issues simultaneously – repairing the damage that this President has done in both areas.

    In this respect Bill Clinton had it comparatively easy in ’92 cleaning up after Reagan/Bush the Elder. The US was either respected or feared by most of the nations in the world, so Clinton could work on cleaning up the domestic economy and save most of the foreign relations for his second term. That isn’t true anymore – the rest of the world neither respects nor fears us. We’ve been shown to be a paper tiger with a corrupt heart. With a military stretched so thin that we can’t back up any of our empty threats. The next President is going to be sitting with the weakest hand since the US became a major world power, and I don’t envy them the task of rebuilding our relationships with the rest of the world.

    [*] Philosopher, cartoon cyclops setting up a joke – it’s all the same, isn’t it?

  • How can you even ask if we’re better off now? George W. Bush has relieved us of the dilemma of what to do with the Treasury surplus, his administration and its pals have relieved millions of Americans of gainful employment, and he’s absolutely, definitely made sure that 4,000 Americans and tens of thousands of Iraqis won’t have to worry about what to do with the rest of their lives.

    George W. Bush is to governance what AIDS is to sex.

  • Of course America is better off! Seven years ago we knew we had at least four years of Bush. Now we have less than a year until this unremitting cluster fuck is O-V-E-R

    That said, I’m buying a bottle of wine for this one. Every time Bush mispronounces a word I’ll take a sip. I should be on the floor before the thing is half over.

    Or the bottle will be lodged in your TV screen.

  • It could be argued that yes, we are better off than we were seven years ago.

    Seven years ago, we were eight years away from the end of Bush’s presidency. Tonight, however, we are a bit less than one year away from that celebration.

    And by the way—although I will not be watching the program tonight (radio allows me to listen without looking at the filthy little bastage’s face), I will acknowledge that SOTU is, indeed, taking place—by flying the US flag upside down. I’ll “stars-up” when the radio announces Sebelius’s response.

  • Dana probably had to think hard about her answer. Given King George’s “l’etat, c’est moi” mindset, she must have initially thought the reporter was just asking if HE was better off than he was seven years ago instead of the WHOLE COUNTRY.

  • I didn’t notice anyone bringing up the crucial point:

    The top one percent (1%) are far better off than they were seven years ago, beyond their wildest dreams. And they, so far as these guys are concerned, are the country.

  • A friend of mine works in the Commerce Dept., and was mistakenly put on the list of people getting a draft of the State of the Union speech so they can make comments. Here are some highlights:

    “We now know that Iran is cooperating with VAMPIRES. This is a natural alliance because vampires and Iranians both hate us for our freedoms and both avoid crosses. They are collaborating to create legions of UNDEAD ISLAMO-FACISTS that will sweep across the Middle East and into Europe.

    “We also have received credible information that Iran is sheltering WEREWOLVES in an attempt to unleash a plague of lycanthopy (LIE CAN THROW PEE) upon the civilized world.

    “And we have evidence of a secret Iranian program to RE-ANIMATE DEAD TISSUE, with the goal of establishing an unlimited supply of eight-foot tall terrorist monster suicide bombers that will launch a new wave of cruel, cowardly attacks on innocent women and children.

    “We must resolve to defend our troops and our allies from these VERY REAL THREATS. We must be ready to do whaterver is necessary defend America’s vital interests in the Persian Gulf.

  • Ha, Ha!!!!!!!!! That is HILARIOUS! I know just the man to meet and repulse this attack – Dick Cheney. Only the undead can fight the undead. Somebody shake Dick (not figuratively speaking), and tell him to get out of his box of dirt; there’s work to do.

  • Btw, if anyone’s interested, I’ll be live-blogging the SOTU Address. I don’t want to give away the surprise but let’s just say that because this is supposed to be Bush’s last this yea’s live-blogging will be themed.

    For those of you who’ll be tuning in to Pottersville so you don’t have to suffer through it, I’d better get a dozen blow jobs, new pair of Star Trek pajamas and three huge bags of Cheetos for doing this.

  • Well, in a way, she *did* answer the question. She said:

    “Certainly seven years ago — well, seven years ago [right before September 11th], I think that people would say that the country certainly felt better off.

    I read this as: “7 yrs ago, the country felt [was?] better off [than it does now].” Sounds to me like, for once, Ms Perino was talking straight from the heart, not from her scripted lines.

  • Does anyone have a clue what health coverage costs? We (our family) is getting hammered. We have our own business (construction) and a HSA (health savings plan) which kicks in AFTER we spend $16,500 on premiums and deductibles. What a joke.
    Mike

  • Is there anyone who actually cares what Bush has to say? Who thinks whatever he does say will bear any relation to reality?

    War – good, getting better. Surge good. Iraqis – gotta work harder. America safer, but not safe. Iran – danger! Economy – structurally sound. Go to the mall! Democrats – bad. Terror. 9/11. February 1 – attack day, since Protect America Act not passed – blame the Democrats.

    Same speech, different year.

    Yawn.

  • Sure it is. Stock markets had started plunging in early 2000 (some had started dropping in late 1999). A recession had started in mid to late 2000. Our Military was drained and our Intel was almost nonexistent, until ‘W’ arrived and started rebuilding them.

    Terrorists had been attacking America, American interests, and American property since 1993.

    Afghanistan was ruled by the Taliban and al Qaida…women would be dragged into stadiums for breaking any of the rules, and were murdered in front of cheering crowds.

    Saddam had been slapping Bill Clinton around for eight years, and treated Bill as if he was Saddam’s personal Prison Punk. Saddam had ignored some 15 UN Resolutions over the same eight years. Saddam committed acts of terrorism, supported terrorists, and supported terrorism. Saddam had already attacked two neighboring countries (Iran and Kuwait), and was a serious threat to Jimmy “The Mullah” Carter’s Presidential Directive/NSC-63 (the only good thing he did whilst in Office), i.e. the “Persian Gulf Security Framework.”

    We are a *LOT* “better off now than seven years ago”!!! Now, if the voters don’t elect another weak-kneed Democrat for President (like Carter and Clinton clearly were), then America should be OK.

  • seaberry, i worry about you, but i understand doctors are doing amazing things with psychotheraputic drugs these days, and i’m sure your chances of regaining a normal mental function are above average with treatment.

  • Hey, Seaberry – don’t forget the Rape Rooms, and the fleet of poison-gas-spraying crop dusters that Saddam was going to fly all the way to the U.S. to spray you with poison goo and make your teeth fall out.

    And while you’re on the subject of U.N. resolutions (which you and your kind routinely scoff at as meaningless unless it’s somebody you don’t like who is ignoring them), check out the number of U.N. resolutions the U.S. has vetoed on Israel’s behalf (or on Israel’s direction).

    Maybe ex-Peznit Bush will have a job for you on his ranch in Crawford. Do you like clearing brush? Can you use a chainsaw?

  • Mark,

    which you and your kind…

    My “Kind”? Careful, your hatred is showing.

    …check out the number of U.N. resolutions the U.S. has vetoed on Israel’s behalf (or on Israel’s direction).

    Er…OK. I take it you support Obama. With his Muslim connections, he may be able to get rid of Israel for you…if he gets elected.

  • “Seaberry” seems representative of some of the happy-clappers cluelessly bobbing their heads and shuffling their feet to their “Dear Decider” pResidents drone-drone re-hash-fear nonsense, more proof, if needed, that the current incumbent of the Oral Office is still outside the clear-air space of reality, along with his staff of vacuum-head speech writers and neocon puppet-masters.
    “Iran ! Feel fear !”
    What clueless, sad examples of the desperate stupidity that is destroying America from within.
    Not even capable of understanding their own intelligence agencies reports or anything from any serious geo-political analyst from around the globe, the Dingleberries clump along behind their meandering leader and his clueless guides on the road to Nowhere.
    Bravo. One more Year of Fear to go before the destruction of America by the busheviks can be seen with new light as the few e-mails and documents not yet shredded by the White House can be exposed to the dumb-struck public. Unless Cheney get’s his war with Iran….

    Hey, Blueberry, read this. Your leaduh should have read it before opening his trap…. http://www.newamerica.net/publications/articles/2008/waving_goodbye_hegemony_6604

  • Pierre,

    The “New America Foundation”…Thanks for the link! It helps to prove my point that the Democratic Party seeks to destroy America, and the freedom of its citizens. The “New America Foundation” is another one of those so-called nonprofit, post-partisan, and public policy institutes funded by George Soros (Jonathan Soros is his front-man at NAF). BTW, Obama is one of George Soros’ puppets-on-a-string

    If you want mommy…Vote Democrat. If you want freedom…Vote Republican. – Neal Boortz

    Democrats need to grow up. Their leaders pretend to be ‘MOMMY’, basically promising free healthcare…free retirement…free room-n-board, and the supporters of the Democratic Party actually believe them!? Er…OK.

  • Completely OT: I’m glad to see jp is still up and running. I’m not sure if Craig ‘gives’ or ‘recives’ but Bob Allen will give you a BJ and $20! Think of the Cheetoes you can buy with that.

  • Not only is the country worse off than 7 years ago it is in the worse shape I’ve seen it in my life time, and I’m 66 years old! My God, what part of outer space are the conservatives in. This has been the worst president since Herbert Hoover! Of course we don’t have soup lines yet like during the great depression but I think that is approaching.

    J. R.

  • Seaberry,

    You have an itch on the roof of your mouth only a gun barrel can scratch. Remember to take off the saftey (like you ever had it on) when you do.

  • If no one was in office the results would have been better from day one….I have yet to see a republican that has brains…they are all marching to the beat of christian right wingers ( many ar closet queers).who like to think they are more deserving americans than the real americans…DEMOCRSATS have always been beneficial to ALL…Regan, BUsh both ruined the economy..allowing big corporations big tax breaks while screwing the lil guy.Corporate profits under Repubs are higher ..look at the oil companies, insurance companies, haliburton, pharmaceuticals…it all stinks..

  • The country is absolutely better off now than ever before.

    It was easy to think that the Clinton years were salad days…but they were the days of the Grasshopper who sang and sang all summer but died in the winter. Clinton fed the economy with cheap money, encouraged folly in the White House and dropped our guard.

    Bush is the Ant. He put his nose to the grindstone. Rebuilt our security. Got us through a Great Depression. Shouldered the burden of Katrina and other disasters.

    We are better than ever before.

  • Bush definitely resembles an ant in many ways. He is about as smart, in people terms, as an ant. He knows as much about foreign policy as an ant does. His corporate puppetmasters push him around like an ant.

    If Clinton knew a source of “cheap money”, you can bet Bush would be licking his wingtips to find out where it came from; if anybody could use a huge infusion of “cheap money” right now, it’s Bush The Ant. Did you perhaps get confused because the U.S. dollar was worth a great deal more under Clinton than it is under Bush? What the fuck are you talking about, cheap money? I gotta get me some of that – all of mine costs exactly the same as it buys.

  • “Has everyone seen this chart?”

    Q: When is a “chart” not a chart?

    A: When it’s a table.

  • Hey, Republicans … how about the 1.2 million people that have been killed in Bush’s little elected war? Hope they come and haunt every one of you. This country is going to deserve everything you Bush voters brought us. Too bad the other half of us who saw through him have to suffer with you.

  • Come one, Of course the country is better off than it was 7 years ago

    Perino said: “Seven years ago we had far higher tax rate. Seven years ago we were already in a recession. Seven years ago, we had a liberal court which wasn’t following the Constitution.

    “More recently, we have had a record period of uninterupted job growth. Before President Bush we had never had 48 months in a row where the economy added jobs.

    “The US is respected around the world. We no longer have to worry about what goes on in the Oval Office. We have a President we can be proud of.”

    That is what Perino should have said

    Of course, then she would be lying.

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