Is the FISA fight over?

Following up on an item from a couple of weeks ago, much to everyone’s surprise, House Democrats simply wouldn’t budge when the Bush administration demanded that Congress pass a permanent “Protect America Act” — with retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies. The law expired, the president threw a fit, and lawmakers broke for a two-week spring recess.

Despite claims that congressional inaction was responsible for increased threats against Americans, and despite demands that the president would never accept a compromise on surveillance power and telecom immunity, the White House indicated recently that the Bush gang might be willing to chat with Democratic leaders after all.

Earlier this week, The Hill reported that House Republicans, who had been shouting that the sky was falling as a result of the PAA’s expiration, have apparently decided to accept the status quo and turn their attention elsewhere.

House Republicans are poised to shift their focus from national security to the economy, hoping to rally opposition to what they claim are Democratic plans to raise taxes amid the economic downturn.

Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) is expected to announce Thursday that the House GOP floor emphasis will transition away from passing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and earmark reform to “stop the tax hike.”

House Republican leaders will make their case to pass a tax bill introduced by Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.). Republicans will use procedural floor tactics to force votes on Walberg’s bill, which would make the 2001 tax cuts permanent.

The Hill added that a recent NYT/CBS poll found that the economy was far and away the most important issue facing the United States, which may have contributed to the Republicans’ shift in priorities.

Given this, it’s worth pausing to wonder if House Dems just won the FISA/immunity fight.

Glenn Greenwald makes the case that Republicans failed on this one.

[Congressional Republicans] have come to accept that they are not going to win the fight any time soon and they are not getting any real political traction from their scare-mongering campaign. Other than AT&T, Verizon, Fred Hiatt and Dick Cheney, there is not — and there never was — any constituency in the U.S. demanding new warrantless eavesdropping powers and telecom amnesty. And the ongoing disclosure of still-new secret surveillance programs, combined with increasing dishonesty from the likes of Michael Mukasey and Mike McConnell, only made the prospect of GOP success here that much more unlikely.

This is the first time in a long time that right-wing fear-mongering on Terrorism hasn’t succeeded. Given that virtually everyone (including me) assumed that the Congress would ultimately enact the new FISA bill demanded by Bush, it demonstrates that smart strategies combined with intense citizen activism can succeed, even when the Establishment — its lobbyists, Congressional representatives and pundits — lines up in bipartisan fashion behind their latest measure. And it removes the Democrats’ principal excuse that they cannot resist Bush’s Terrorism demands without suffering politically.

The telecom lawsuits — which have gone quite poorly for the telecoms — have been stalled as the courts have been awaiting the outcome of Congressional efforts to bestow amnesty. Those lawsuits ought to proceed now. Additional rulings rejecting the telecoms’ claims will only further highlight the key issue here — that these telecoms systematically, deliberately, and repeatedly broke the law in how they enabled government spying on millions of their customers, and, like ever other lawbreaker, ought to be held accountable in a court of law.

Usually, in politics, we think of DC “victories” in terms of candidates and legislation that gets the most votes. But once in a while, we can also win when the other team decides to stop playing altogether.

NO!!!! The dems did not win the fight – the administration just breaks the laws anyhow and issues “signing statements” to invalidate any law he pleases. They stole 2 elections to get into the WH and continue to break the law at will – undermining our Bill of Rights, Constitution, and commit treason, war crimes, and crimes against humanity.

Talk about “lowering the bar” – and you want to proclaim the dems have some sort of “victory” when the necons/repugs just decide to subvert the law?

  • I think the country should take a bow! Thanks to everyone who wrote, signed petitions, or called their representatives in congress. We did it..whew…1 down…1000 to go..

  • Establishing permanent tax cuts can be defeated in the same way as was the fast-tracking on the Columbia trade bill—by fighting Bone-head’s procedures with counter-procedures. First and foremost, bury the tax bill in amendments so nauseatingly prohibitive to the Republikanner Beast that it dies on the vine. They know that their days are numbered now—2008 is the last hope for the GOPers to ram home their profitmongering at the expense of the People; their last chance to gang-rape the Republic….

  • It would be interesting to let the Republicans state their reasoning behind making the taxes permanent – other than their worn out ‘lower taxes’ and ‘no new taxes’ pledge.

    Ask them the questions on how they plan to pay for their war in Iraq and how they plan to pay for their ‘stimulus’ package?

    Then have people with far superior intelligence than any House Republican counter their claims with the facts. That should be easy, since you wouldn’t have to have that high an IQ to fit the category of having more common sense than the Republicans. 🙂

  • I’m not going to believe that we “won” the FISA fight until the dems take over entirely and not only formally kill the legislation, but also open investigations into what the reps were so desperate to hide. I’m not going to hold my breath for those things; they aren’t both going to happen any time soon.

    What really gets to me is just how low the bar has gone. FISA itself is viciously unconstitutional. Seriously, a secret court that only the government has access to, with judges appointed by the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, and government agents allowed to begin warrentless wire tapping and continue it without oversight for 3 days. And let’s not forget that this secret court has retroactively rubber-stamped all but, I believe, 5 out of tens of thousands of surveillance cases.

    But now, to the reps, even this is too much oversight, and the dems are quite happy to trumpet the FISA standard of constitutional checks and balances. Please excuse me while I weep for my civil liberties.

  • Hmmf. I guess there’s some nobility in deciding that maintaining huge budget deficits is more important than protecting campaign contributors from the results of their illegal actions.

  • Do I have this right?

    House Pukes will stop fighting the FISA/PAA act, but only on the proviso that the Dims agree to make the Bushevik tax cuts permanent?

    Izzat right?

    And the Dims bought/are buying it?

    Can we get some tumbrels over to the Capitol, stat, please?

  • Nah, Immunity will be snuck into some vast bill that no one reads all the way through, like the omnibus spending bill. Dems will “unwittingly” vote for it, Bush will sign it. Months later someone somewhere will read the thing and realize what happened and it will be too late. The BlueDogs et al., will say “Oops, our bad, so sorry.” And it will be done and over.

    I’m with Shade Tail, I won’t beleive it’s dead until we get a Dem president and a larger dem majority in both houses.

  • House Republicans are poised to shift their focus from national security to the economy, hoping to rally opposition to what they claim are Democratic plans to raise taxes amid the economic downturn.

    Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) is expected to announce Thursday that the House GOP floor emphasis will transition away from passing the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) and earmark reform to “stop the tax hike.”

    The thugs are only in favor of “national sdecurity” when there’s a buck to be made. Otherwise, it’s back to “No multi-millionaire left behind” – the true Repbulican priority.

    The Democrats can beat the Walberg bill and leave the dumbasses sucking air. It’s what the country wants. All they have to do is point out they’re making it fair for everybody. Right now, the majority of the country would applaud if 20 at-random CEOs were perp-walked, tried, and hanged in public. Of course, it would be better if we got the real criminals, like Mozillo who founded Countrywide and caused the whole thing, the head of Bear-Stearns, etc.

  • You bleedin libreals need some fine cheese with your WHINE

    Ahhh, another fine upstanding product of Republican public miseducation demonstrates his ability with the language is the equal of his leader’s.

  • Glenn Greenwald makes the case that Republicans failed on this one.
    “[Congressional Republicans] have come to accept that they are not going to win the fight any time soon and they are not getting any real political traction from their scare-mongering campaign. Other than AT&T, Verizon, Fred Hiatt and Dick Cheney, there is not — and there never was — any constituency in the U.S. demanding new warrantless eavesdropping powers and telecom amnesty.”

    The constituency for Telecomm amnesty may be small, but they have money and money talks. My own Senator, Barbara Mikulski, voted for amnesty after receiving over $80,000 in bribes campaign contributions from the Telecomms through 2006.
    http://www.publicintegrity.org/telecom/search/person.aspx?id=1747

    The House FISA bill still needs to be reconciled with a Senate bill that includes Telecomm amnesty. Watch for the bill that comes out of conference to include amnesty and get passed late at night.

  • Bruno said:
    It would be interesting to let the Republicans state their reasoning behind making the taxes permanent – other than their worn out ‘lower taxes’ and ‘no new taxes’ pledge.

    Ask them the questions on how they plan to pay for their war in Iraq and how they plan to pay for their ’stimulus’ package?

    How about a check off at the bottom of everyone’s 1040 form:

    A) I oppose the Iraq war and I want the American military to leave as soon as possible.

    B) I support the Iraq war and want the American military to stay as long as necessary.

    Anyone who checks (B) would have the tax they owe before deductions increased by 20 percent.

  • Well, well, our whimpy reps are finally growing some testicles (maybe). The first time I can remember them not caving in. Bush is a maroon.

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