Is this what McCain meant by ‘respectful campaign’?

Just a few days ago, after Barack Obama questioned John McCain’s record on women’s rights, a reporter asked the Republican nominee if he had any reaction. McCain almost sounded as if Obama had hurt his feelings: “You know I respect Senator Obama and I admire his success and I will conduct a respectful campaign. That kind of statement and allegation is not worthy of Senator Obama, nor worthy of the debate the American people want and deserve.”

What’s striking, though, is that for all of McCain’s talk about “respect” and a “respectful campaign,” his personal attacks against Obama are becoming increasingly common.

To be sure, Obama hasn’t exactly been playing bean-bag with the GOP candidate. The Democrat has been going after McCain on his misguided policy agenda and many policy reversals. But when it comes to personal issues, Obama is going out of his way to take the high ground, frequently referring to McCain as a “hero,” and admonishing those who argue differently (or are perceived to have argued differently).

McCain, meanwhile, is doing the exact opposite, avoiding issues (on which his positions are Bush-like and unpopular) and going after Obama’s personal integrity.

Yesterday, for example, after Obama rejected Wesley Clark’s assessment of McCain’s qualifications, the McCain campaign wouldn’t accept Obama’s denunciation: “Of course Barack Obama has called many times for a new kind of politics, but his campaign just hasn’t lived up to it. We’ve learned we need to wait and see what Senator Obama actually does, rather than take him at his word.” The comment went by largely unnoticed, but it’s as harsh an attack on a candidate’s character as we’ve heard from any major candidate this year.

Shortly thereafter, McCain was asked directly whether he questioned Obama’s patriotism. The appropriate response would have been, “Of course not.” Instead, McCain gave a circuitous response, and wouldn’t answer the question directly.

Questions of character have quietly entered the campaign, just over the last week or so, and McCain isn’t facing any real pushback at all.

To reiterate a point from the weekend, these personal attacks are not isolated — they appear to be part of a strategy.

John McCain, in his sharpest attack yet against rival Barack Obama, said the Democratic presidential candidate’s word “cannot be trusted.”

“This election is about trust — trust in people’s word, McCain, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, told several hundred donors at a $2 million GOP fundraiser in Louisville, Kentucky yesterday. “And unfortunately, apparently on several items, Senator Obama’s word cannot be trusted.”

McCain, a four-term Arizona senator, said Obama has gone back on his word by pledging to take public financing during the general election and then deciding not to do so. Obama on June 19 announced he won’t accept public financing for his presidential campaign, calculating that he can raise far more than the $84.1 million he would get in government funds. […]

[U]ntil yesterday McCain hadn’t accused Obama, 46, a first-term Illinois senator, of being untrustworthy. “I’ll keep my word to the American people. You can trust me,” McCain said.

The irony, of course, is that McCain said Obama “cannot be trusted” to keep his word the exact same afternoon in which McCain broke his promise to voters on immigration policy, and abandoned his own “pledge” to the public.

If McCain wants to criticize Obama for bypassing the public-financing system, fine. It’s odd, of course, given McCain’s apparently illegal decision to play fast and loose with the public-financing system, but if he sees this as a key issue, it’s up to him to craft his own strategy.

But does John McCain really want to talk about which candidate “cannot be trusted”? Or to borrow McCain’s phrase from yesterday, which candidate should not be taken “at his word”? Is this really an invitation to review the instances in which McCain has either lied to voters or broken his word?

We can make this campaign personal. It wouldn’t be pleasant, and it would make McCain look pretty bad, but if he wants to talk about honesty and character, we can go there. In fact, I’m reminded of this recent Arianna Huffington item about McCain “issuing heartfelt denials of things that were actually true.”

Or for that matter, take a look at the Official McCain Flip-Flop List. Most of the 48 reversals include John McCain promising voters he wants to go in one direction, and then promising them soon after that he wants to go in a completely different direction. He has a habit of making one pledge, and soon after, making the opposite pledge.

Indeed, on Friday, McCain took credit for the passage of a veterans’ bill he opposed, and on Saturday, McCain vowed to a group of Latino voters that he’d support an immigration bill he’s vowed to oppose.

“On several items, Senator Obama’s word cannot be trusted”? It’s a mistake to take Obama “at his word”?

First, I didn’t expect these kinds of attacks this early. McCain must be feeling a little desperate.

Second, I don’t have a background in psychology, but I’m pretty sure McCain’s attacks are a sign of “projection.”

And third, for every media sycophant who’s praised McCain for his “respectful” campaign style, and his commitment to stick “to the issues,” now would be a good time to realize that McCain is not the man you think he is.

Yesterday, for example, after Obama rejected Wesley Clark’s assessment of McCain’s qualifications, the McCain campaign wouldn’t accept Obama’s denunciation…

This is why Obama should have supported Clark when Clark spoke the truth. There wasn’t an option that wouldn’t result in a well coordinated attack from McCain and the media, but there was an option that wouldn’t anger his base and isolate another surrogate.

This is the lesson Democrats need to learn: you’re damned either way with the Republicans, so try something new for a change, and stick with your key supporters and surrogates. It might just work.

  • I’m sure the media will eventually get around to questioning the fiction they’ve been spewing, right after they hire analysts who were right about the Iraq war.

    Cough.

    The only way to win this one is going around the media, they’re going to back McCain all the way no matter what the reality of his actions might be. We’re going to have to get out and register as many people as we can, and get them to do the same thing, because the money interests want McCain and their media buddies aren’t going to let reality get in the way of another corporate coronation.

  • MSNBC just had a segment on the question of which one’s more trustworthy. They focused on McCain’s “big flipflop” on taxes, but then said “voters know McCain” and said he’d probably get away with it, whereas Obama is more of an unknown. Eh.

  • McCain almost sounded as if Obama had hurt his feelings

    Jukebox Johnny is a sad song. Let’s liven it up here. Concrete Blonde – God is a Bullet, Hit it Jim!

    Bah, bah, bah, bah, bah, bah
    There’s a green flak jacket on the back of the chair
    It’s just a moment frozen like brylcreem hair
    John McCain had a lot of big plans for a little man, So proud.

    But Georgie went crazy with his oil stained whores
    And Johnny was trash heaped like a Maverick Ford
    But it was eight long years, so they gave him another chance. So sad.

    Talk straight from the hip.
    Tell a doozie, and we’ll call it a slip
    (all together now)
    Well it could have been, it could have been a verb tense

  • You’re right, CB, you don’t have a background in psychology and McCain’s attacks are not a sign of projection — they are a sign of campaigning. As I explained earlier, projection is a defense mechanism used when someone feels threatened. It causes a trait to be “projected” onto an outside entity so that it can be eradicated there when it cannot be acknowledged in oneself. Further, defense mechanisms are normal and we all use various ones every day — defense is not a sign of dysfunction or anything bad unless (1) it fails to work, or (2) the defense interferes with other functioning. As I said a few days ago, misuse of psychological jargon constitutes pop psychology. But hey, Oprah does it, so why not you?

    McCain may be arguing that Obama’s character is flawed, but Obama himself introduced character as an issue into this campaign. As Wes Clark said on Sunday, Obama is not running on executive experience but on character and judgment. That makes Obama’s character a legitimate campaign issue, not something personal that cannot be discussed, as his children’s school grades would be, for example.

    Speaking of character, don’t you just love Obama’s proposed expansion of faith-based programs? Aside from buying off the religious organizations with an ear-mark and pandering to the religious right, this carries on Bush’s wonderful tradition of injecting relgion into the secular state. It also extends Obama’s demonstrated disregard for the Constitution, in this case by ignoring the establishment clause. All those homeless families should have to sit through a sermon before they get a room and a meal, dontcha know? Maybe it will improve their character too.

  • Backing away from Wesley Clark/s remarks was a huge mistake on the part of the Obama campaign. They should have immediately and strongly supported the points (very valid points) he made. The responce from the fawning media and the McCain camp make it clear that no critisizm will be tollerated. By “rejecting” Clark’s points Obama conceeds an aweful lot to John McCain, and has all but taken a very potent arguement off the table. Not a good move at all.

    What happened to the Barack Obama who told Rolling Stone that he doesn’t cower? What happened to the Barack Obama who said he comes from the rough world of Chicago politics? Enough of bowing and scraping to the Clintons and flinching away from John McCain. His primary campaign was nearly flawless, but in the past few weeks he’s taken some very bad advice.

    Clark’s appearances and statement yesterday illustrate what a true leader is.

  • Disagree, disagree, disagree.

    Clark did NOT speak the truth, people. Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency.

    Our job is to make sure that people remember that IN SPITE OF McCain’s service, he is planning an endless war in Iraq for his Oil cronies, and does NOT have the courage to negotiate with so-called enemies. In fact, Obama did bring up the fact the other day, that Bush and McCain FEAR diplomacy.

    By bringing up McCain’s service, Clark is not helping Obama’s argument.

    (P.S. Bob Schieffer must die. Now.)

  • Barak Obama is now campaining like previous the two Democratic candidates. I know it’s been a long campaign BUT if he does not engage fourth gear (and beyond) immediately in this campaign HE will surely lose. That pains me because here I was, as an outsider, hoping that the US would finally change for the better, i.e. elect a competent Democratic President. NOW, ME NOT SURE ANYMORE.

    I just hope that this is just a temporary mid-session slump and he will get back to his “A” before it is too late. For now though it just seems like I’m watching a horror film and BARAK is the next STUPID victim

  • “Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency.”

    I must disagree. Service in the military CAN contribute to qualities of disipline and character…just like many other types of experience CAN.

    In light of John McCain’s reckless views on foreign policy and the use of force (especially in regards to Iraq and even more so, Iran) and his shamefull pandering on the issue of torture make it clear that his personal experience in the military didn’t contribute to the qualities of discipline and character relevant to the Presidency. He’s on board with George Bush in those areas, and I would hardly say that one shows any qualities of discipline and character relevant to the Presidency.

    Just because John McCain had experience that CAN be relevant doen’t mean in fact that it IS. I think that was the point Wesley Clark made.

  • Further evidence that the fix is in. McBu$h can employ former lobbyists for dictators, act like a complete fool, say one thing, do another. He’s a walking talking lie, but the media ignores it. Obama’s surrogate makes a very valid point about experience, and the right wing media machine pounces like a lion on a hurt Gazelle.

    McBu$h will be appointed president by the corporations that run the media outlets.

    America deserves what it gets if McBu$h becomes president.

    I used to be proud of this country.

  • I used to be proud of this country

    Oh, no! Now your spouse can never run for President, cit_pain!

  • When it comes to expecting the media to “get it” about McCain and start telling the truth, it’s well to remember two things George Orwell once said on this topic:

    “It is difficult to expect a man to recognize the truth when his economic well-being is dependent upon his not doing so.”

    ”Political language…is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.”

  • You people are blinded by your ideology! John McCain is the better of the two candidates. If you can’t see that then nothing anybody will say will change your minds. I can’t imagine any of you “actually” believe Obama is better qualified to be President of the United States. I doudt he’s qualified to hold his present position!

  • John McCain is the better of the two candidates.

    Which John McCain are you talking about?

    The one who’s for campaign finance reform, for immigration reform, for offshore drilling, for abortion rights, for negotiations with Castro, for military strikes in Iran, and for the Bush tax cuts?

    Or the one who’s against all those things?

    He’s such a maverick, he even opposes himself!

  • I am curious if anyone else has encountered someone like I did this morning and whether it might be a pattern. . A middle aged guy, about my age and my size, with a “Third Infantry Division” cap on came up to me in the gas station parking lot this morning and started talking to me about the crappy apartment building that is going up on the freeway and next thing you know he says “That’s where we’ll all be living in Obama’s world.” He then starts ranting about the high price of gas and says it’s “Harry and Nancy’s fault, they are in charge and they said on April 23, 2006 that they were going to do everything they could to raise gas prices now that they were in charge.” I told the guy he was crazy and then he said “So you are going to vote for a Muslim?” I called him a fool. He said “he’s a socialist.” I called him a fool again. He said he would “take all our guns away.” I said, yep, you are a fool. He said his military service gave him the right to say whatever he wanted and where did I earn the right to say what I wanted and I said it was in the Constitution, you know the thing shrub and Cheney use for toilet paper and he called me a moron as I closed my car door to drive away. I got out of my car and put my finger in his face and told him if he didn’t want to have to tell all his buds he got his ass kicked in a gas station parking lot by a moron Obama Backer, he better start walking. He cut and ran.
    I just wonder if guys like this are part of a strategy to spread GOP malarkey at gas stations across America this holiday driving season. Am I just nuts?

  • Roberto: Please. McBu$h has been on the wrong side of just about every issue since he has been in office. Think about it, the Republicans have had the presidency for 28 of the last 40 years. They had control of the house and senate from 1994 to 2006.

    They had their chance and they have failed.

    Of course, I guess if you are rich, and really don’t care about your country or fellow citizens, then you think all is well.

  • Clark did NOT speak the truth, people. Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency. -Ohioan

    “In the matters of national security policy making, it’s a matter of understanding risk,” Clark said. “It’s a matter of gauging your opponents and it’s a matter of being held accountable. John McCain’s never done any of that in his official positions. I certainly honor his service as a prisoner of war. He was a hero to me and to hundreds of thousands and millions of others in the armed forces, as a prisoner of war…. He has been a voice on the Senate Armed Services Committee and he has traveled all over the world, but he hasn’t held executive responsibility,” Clark said. “That large squadron in the Navy that he commanded — that wasn’t a wartime squadron.”

    Host Bob Schieffer noted that Obama hadn’t ridden in a fighter plane and been shot down. “Well, I don’t think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president,” Clark replied.

    I don’t see where he said what you claim he said, Ohioan. I see he was clearly and specifically referring to a single event, getting shot down, not having any relevance to his qualifications and he mentions that he doesn’t have any executive military experience.

    He never said that the discipline and character gleaned from military service (which is most certainly not a given, just ask Lindy England), were not qualities relevant to the Presidency.

    We all have the right to question McCain’s qualifications and a retired four-star general has the necessary experience to question an undeserving legacy’s attempt to leverage a tragic event for political gain. He is not denigrating McCain’s service or his time as a POW, just questioning how relevant that is to being President.

    McCain is trying to leverage it so it is fair game. You may disagree with how effective it is, but I still think that Clark is spot on, and you can gauge that by the full on media/right-wing flip-out and we shouldn’t allow their reaction to take this issue off the table. Clark hit their sore spot.

  • “You know I respect Senator Obama and I admire his success and I will conduct a respectful campaign. That kind of statement and allegation is not worthy of Senator Obama, nor worthy of the debate the American people want and deserve.”

    You know, this is exactly the kind of response I would expect from one of Bush’s press secretaries. The hypocrisy and spin are so mainstream Republican. Predictable to the core. And very indicative of how McCain would handle the presidency via revolving cue card responses. I am tired of watching tired already.

  • ArkyTex, I’m amazed that calling the man a fool didn’t immediately change his mind and help him to see your position.

    Saint_Zak, seems to me you are questioning McCain’s judgment rather than his character and discipline. I doubt the military helps improve judgment, since it is about following orders and established procedures not questioning or improving them, except perhaps at higher levels of command or in the military academies (where McCain doesn’t seem to have learned much, based on his ranking).

  • What is this BS about military service being relevant to anything? Pardon me for saying so, but do you really think John McCain, son and grandson of admirals, really had any choice in his initial profession?

    And if that’s the case, we should judge him only on how well he acquitted himself in that, and subsequent, endeavors. Let’s see: as a naval aviator, he dropped bombs, lost 5 planes, had a reputation as a hot-head even among his notably hot-headed and arrogant peers, ended up a POW. After release, he engaged in womanizing, divorced his wife, married a beer heiress a month later, got elected to a safe GOP seat in Congress, got caught in the Keating 5 scandal, has sponsored several deeply flawed or unsuccessful bills, and ran unsuccessfully for President.

    I’m sorry, but there’s not a way I can imagine to dress up this CV to make it appear that he’s anything but a size ten ego locked in a size 5 body, mind, and soul.

    I also see absolutely no evidence that his military time helped his discipline (that womanizing and divorce thing, and that Keating deal kinda say “NO!”) I’ve worked with a lot of ex-military types in my career, and I’ve never seen any indication that this was correlated with more capability. They did know how to play the blame game a little better than your run-of-the-mill type, but that’s it.

    He deserves a modicum of respect. Not as much as a truly accomplished individual like, say, Wesley Clark, Dick Cheney (I do more than respect this guy — I fear his shadow), Stevie Wonder, or Chris Dodd.

  • But does John McCain really want to talk about which candidate “cannot be trusted”? Or to borrow McCain’s phrase from yesterday, which candidate should not be taken “at his word”? Is this really an invitation to review the instances in which McCain has either lied to voters or broken his word?

    Let’s face it — only a candidate who was confident that the instances in which he has either lied to voters or broken his word won’t be scrutinized by the so-called “liberal media” would throw down this gauntlet. It’s past time to stop pretending that the SCLM is anything but completely in the tank for McCain. Obama promised a different kind of campaign, and recognizing the media is on McCain’s side — in total violation of their so-called professional ethics — is an essential start.

  • Clark did NOT speak the truth, people. Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency.

    Ohm, for crying out loud — Clark didn’t fucking argue that point. Clark pointed out, contra Schieffer’s asinine construction, that military service is not at all a unique qualifier for the Presidency, inherently superior to someone without it, and moreover, getting shot down doesn’t qualify you to be President.

    You know what? Community organizing and a lifetime of civilian public service also contributes to qualities of discipline and character, and Obama has those. McCain’s military service — which was 40 years ago, and which he’s shamed since by his embrace of torture, not to mention his political pandering — does not qualify him for the presidency more than Obama, period, full stop.

  • Saint_Zak, seems to me you are questioning McCain’s judgment rather than his character and discipline.

    Maybe so. I’d say it’s more McCain’s leaving the wife who stood by him as a POW and raised his kids for a younger, prettier, richer woman whose funds he used to launch his political career, his embrace of Bush’s position on torture, his embrace of Bush — whose campaign led a whispering campaign against McCain’s adopted daughter — as well as his self-evident deception and even confusion on the campaign trail, that call’s McCain’s character and discipline into question.

  • Mary, I am sure you could have come up with some silver tongued rhetoric to change that man’s whole world view right there in that gas station lot, but my rather limited skill set made me want to call the man a fool and move on. I am ashamed I wasted such a golden opportunity to convert that nut job to an Obama GOTV volunteer. Shame on me.

  • We can make this campaign personal. It wouldn’t be pleasant, and it would make McCain look pretty bad, but if he wants to talk about honesty and character, we can go there.

    It’s time to go there, god dammit! What are we waiting for?

    McCain (with the help of the media and fellow Republicans) is successfully undermining voter’s perception of Obama honesty, while getting a pass on his illegal activity with regard to campaign financing, constant rotating of positions and elitist behavior (by Republican definitions of being ridiculously rich with several houses marrying into money getting where he is because of family connections, …).

    Do I like these kinds of campaigns? No. But they prefer these kinds of campaigns, so we have no choice. It’s time to crank up the collective volume and attack McCain’s character…today. Slowly but surely, they’re winning the frame wars with a pack of lies and misrepresentations. All we have to do is tell the truth…over and over and over…until it becomes conventional wisdom.

  • Speaking of character, don’t you just love Obama’s proposed expansion of faith-based programs? Aside from buying off the religious organizations with an ear-mark and pandering to the religious right, this carries on Bush’s wonderful tradition of injecting relgion into the secular state. It also extends Obama’s demonstrated disregard for the Constitution, in this case by ignoring the establishment clause. All those homeless families should have to sit through a sermon before they get a room and a meal, dontcha know? Maybe it will improve their character too.

    Hey beep52, can’t stand that Mary has a damn valid point.

  • 5. On July 1st, 2008 at 10:28 am, Mary said:

    “You’re right, CB, you don’t have a background in psychology and McCain’s attacks are not a sign of projection — they are a sign of campaigning.”

    Wuh-HOAH! Dig the big brain on Black Hole Mary! She knows the difference between projection and campaigning!

    Now if someone would explain to her what “sarcasm” is, maybe she’d understand she shouldn’t take the “projection” comment seriously. I get the feeling she’s the kind of thunderdolt who thinks anything somebody writes that’s supposed to be funny needs to have smiley icons and “LOL’s” attached to them.

    But remember, she’s a teacher. She knows shit.

    By the way, Mary, I asked you a question on another thread, which you either missed (which is why I’ll repeat it) or you ignored it because you know there’s no answer that won’t make you look like the complete and total tool you are (which is why I’ll continue to ask the question until you have the guts to answer it).

    You said earlier “What has Obama done to demonstrate his patriotism?”

    I asked you “What does Obama need to do…FOR YOU…so that you’ll think he’s sufficiently pariotic enough?”

    I got the feeling that, because he’s not white, female and named Hillary Clinton, he could take out Osama bin Laden while playing “God Bless America” with a piccolo he shoved up his ass and making reservation to eat a traditional turkey dinner at Disney World’s Liberty Tree Tavern, and you’d still think he wasn’t patriotic enough.

    Put your money where you mouth is, babe. Cite some examples that makes Obama the sort of patriot you could vote for… that is, you WOULD vote for, if you weren’t already planning on voting for McCain.

    Enquiring minds want to know.

  • Slip Kid @ 48: On extremely rare occasions, Mary has made a valid point but even then, they’re never so brilliant as to warrant wading through all the hate-filled, ignorant and intentionally twisted drivel. I would agree with the quote you cited if it was a fair representation, but it’s not. Eleven pounds in a five pound sack.

  • 7. On July 1st, 2008 at 10:49 am, Ohioan said:
    Disagree, disagree, disagree.

    Clark did NOT speak the truth, people. Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency.
    __________________

    Ohioan, by an extension of that logic, Lee Harvey Oswald & the soldiers who were angaged in the “Fraternity-style hazing pranks” at Gitmo & Abu Gharib would be considered potential better Presidential candidates than Obama.

    I’m only being half-faceitious (sp?). It’s a ridiculous extreme, but that’s what broad generalizations get you. When you imply that something is ALWAYS true, people are going to find the instances where it’s not true, and poke the holes in your logic. For something to ALWAYS be true, it can NEVER NOT be true.

    People in the military learn some wonderful disciplines. They’re also given a tremendous amount of mental stress, even outside of times of war, to make sure they’re fit when there IS a time of war. Not everyone holds up to that level of stress, and it changes most people one way or the other.

    I loved my Dad, a Korean War vet, deeply. He’s been dead for over 25 years & I still miss him. But if he were alive AND running for President (and, you know, NOT my dad) I’d have to objectively say he might not be the best man for the job.

  • Speaking of character, don’t you just love Obama’s proposed expansion of faith-based programs? Aside from buying off the religious organizations with an ear-mark and pandering to the religious right, this carries on Bush’s wonderful tradition of injecting relgion into the secular state. It also extends Obama’s demonstrated disregard for the Constitution, in this case by ignoring the establishment clause. All those homeless families should have to sit through a sermon before they get a room and a meal, dontcha know? Maybe it will improve their character too.

    Someone, it would seem, is trying out for a job at johnmccain.conjob ….

  • SaintZak: “Just because John McCain had experience that CAN be relevant doen’t mean in fact that it IS. I think that was the point Wesley Clark made.”

    No, he made the point that McCain’s particular experience did not involve positions of leadership and hence IS NOT relevant. He didn’t say it can be relevant, he said it cannot.

    Gregory: “You know what? Community organizing and a lifetime of civilian public service also contributes to qualities of discipline and character, and Obama has those”

    Agreed. My whole point is that Obama is ABSOLUTELY right to throw Clark under the bus and not engage in discussions about what experience can or cannot theoretically contribute to leadership skills or qualifications. Obama makes one simple point – McCain wants a never-ending war, a war that we never should have waged. Full stop. Period.

  • McCain looks and sounds physically ill. He doesn’t make a lot of sense when he speaks and can barely remain on topic. Everybody keeps patronizing this hypocrite and outright liar but on several occasions he says what he thinks the crowd wants to hear without even believing what he is saying himself.

    There comes a time when calling it a flip-flop just doesn’t explain it. Lying is a word everyone seems reluctant to use even when it is blatantly obvious. Like when Bush denied saying he just wasn’t that interested in finding Osama, that he just wasn’t that concerned about him at the debate with Kerry. Called Kerry’s statement an exaggeration when it was virtually word for word and is on video for all to see. Left unchallenged by the media on almost all occasions McCain feels free to lie at will. He knows few people will ever see a correction. If Obama did this the republican controlled media would run it for weeks.

    The more McCain speaks (especially without preparation) the more he sinks himself and shows what an ambitious opportunist he is and how deeply flawed a president he would be. Keep him talking…the longer the better.

  • “…Clark did NOT speak the truth, people. Service in the military DOES contribute to qualities of discipline and character, which in turn are relevant to the Presidency….”

    That’s a stretch…being able to take orders without question and killing on command without exception… Dawning a uniform does not make one a military expert or particularly experienced on foreign policy or national security and this was the point Clark made…beautifully. Which part of Clark’s statement should be rejected? NONE and Obama’s spokesman was wrong to make that statement. McCain’s POW experience does not make him experienced or more qualified to be president.

    POW/hero blackmail to avoid being scrutinized on his foreign policy stands or on national security has been going on for 40 yrs now. Clark did not attack McCain or speak badly of his military service… he effectively pointed out that it is wrong to herald such experience as qualifications to become president. Your argument suggests that anything that builds character should act as qualification to become president which is really a stretch to defend Obama’s “mistaken” rejection of Clark’s comments.

    Your suggestion equates with the character and discipline to play college sports. Being in uniform doesn’t even make you an expert in military affairs as millions of dead soldiers can testify, either, much less foreign policy or national security. As a character builder it equates nicely with his abusive dominating authoritarian personality reputation in the senate and his hot doging action that got 134 sailors killed aboard the USS Forrestal or all the cover ups he’s been involved in. Yeah, his experience is really a matter of reputation at this point. A person can do something the wrong way for 40 yrs and call that experience. Score one for Clark and not McCain or Obama. I salute him for a job well done.

  • Mary said “…As I explained earlier, projection is a defense mechanism used when someone feels threatened. It causes a trait to be “projected” onto an outside entity so that it can be eradicated there when it cannot be acknowledged in oneself. ..”

    I meant to get around to this sooner. That is your interpretation and not necessarily accurate in all situations. Projection can also be understood as attributing something you do or don’t want to face about yourself to another avoiding self confrontation and voicing your self condemnation for such behavior on them. That way you get the reward of condemning the action or issue itself but avoid having to endure the guilt or remorse for such action personally while trying to make sure the other person feel it. It’s intentional and consciously used to hurt another or make them look bad.

    Most of us understood exactly what Steve was suggesting, that McCain was accusing Obama of the very same thing that McCain is actually doing himself.

    btw… Isn’t “pop” psychology the same as “street” psych. or “campaign” psych or any other kind besides textbook psych. So why even bring in textbook psych. when it wasn’t really relative to the discussion? Certainly you knew what Steve meant by his comment so why the dire need to correct him? God, you have a lot of anger in your comments…justified maybe…but not productive to now. Sorry…’cause you’re very bright.

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