It was ‘merely’ a Nazi slave labor camp

On Wednesday, Republicans collectively went completely berserk after Obama said a great-uncle had helped to liberate the Auschwitz death camp at the end of World War II. Once they realized Obama had a great-uncle who had actually helped to liberate Buchenwald, the first camp liberated by Americans, and Obama just misspoke about the Nazi camp in question, conservatives slinked away, waiting for the next manufactured outrage to come up.

But before we leave this non-story altogether, it’s worth pausing to consider what else Obama’s GOP detractors said about this.

Fox News, for example, was even more shameless than usual. One of the hosts of “Fox and Friends” said, “It wasn’t Auschwitz. It was a labor camp called Buchenwald.” As part of the same segment, Fox News ran this all-caps message on its bottom-of-the-screen ticker: “Ohrdruf was a work camp, rather than an extermination camp.”

In other words, Obama’s great-uncle may have served in the 89th Infantry Division, and may have played a part in the liberation of a Nazi camp, but let’s not suggest that this was too important. After all, Ohrdruf was only a Nazi slave labor camp.

It wasn’t just Fox News. John Cole highlighted a post from a far-right blogger, who argued:

Buchenwald, on the other hand, while atrocious beyond normal human understanding, was merely a slave labor camp, and not historically abnormal in a time of war. The people who died there did so under the stress of work and disease, rather than as a deliberate attempt to wipe them off the planet. [emphasis added]

I honestly can’t begin to relate to such a twisted worldview. I can appreciate the temptation to criticize politicians they disagree with, but how far gone does one have to be before they think it’s appropriate to diminish the atrocities at Buchenwald because Obama had a family member who helped liberate the camp? How rabidly partisan must one be to disrespect the bravery of U.S. troops in the 89th Infantry Division?

Sadly, No had an item about right-wing bloggers finding a website dedicated to preserving the history of the 89th Infantry Division of World War II. The conservatives contacted the site’s owners in the hopes of finding dirt that could be used to attack Obama some more. The reply was a message more conservatives need to hear more often:

Please crawl back under the rock you came out from.
Good day
Raymond Kitchell, veteran 89th Inf Div

And before we leave the topic on the pile of stupid campaign “controversies,” I thought I’d also mention Menachem Rosensaft, founding chairman of the International Network of Children of Jewish Survivors and a leader of the Second Generation movement of children of Holocaust survivors, who was not at all pleased with Republican smear efforts this week.

I never thought I’d see the day when the Holocaust would be used as a tool for “gotcha” politics. But over the last two days, we have seen John McCain’s supporters at the Republican National Committee and at Fox News launch tasteless attacks on Barack Obama. In their attempt to score a few political points, they have diminished the experience of those who suffered and died at Buchenwald, and disrespected the service of the heroic American troops who liberated them. […]

Here are some facts about Buchenwald, which is one of the most notorious Nazi concentration camps. At this “work camp,” prisoners were often worked, starved, tortured, or beaten to death. Sometimes they were simply murdered. Roughly 250,000 people were imprisoned there between 1937 and 1945, many of them Jews. Over 50,000 people lost their lives.

At Nuremberg, the world was shocked to learn that some of Buchenwald’s victims were skinned, and the human skin was then used to make lampshades, book covers, and other keepsakes. Buchenwald was also a site for the infamous Nazi “medical experiments” on prisoners, which were often nothing more than crude and horrific forms of torture.

To take just one anecdote about the “work” done at Buchenwald, prisoners had to build the camp road, and camp guards used to shoot those who were not carrying stones that were heavy enough. In the final days before liberation, some 10,000 prisoners from Auschwitz and Gross-Rossen were marched to Buchenwald, adding to the horrific scene that awaited American troops.

On April 4, 1945, Ohrdruf became the first Nazi concentration camp to be liberated by American forces. U.S. troops — including the 89th Infantry Division — found a scene that was vividly described by the Eisenhower Memorial Commission: “The scene was an indescribable horror even to the combat-hardened troops who captured the camp. Bodies were piled throughout the camp. There was evidence everywhere of systematic butchery. Many of the mounds of dead bodies were still smoldering from failed attempts by the departing SS guards to burn them.” […]

The men who liberated Buchenwald were heroes, plain and simple. That includes Barack Obama’s great uncle. In their march across Europe, the 89th Infantry Division suffered over 1,000 casualties, with over 300 men killed. In their liberation of Buchenwald, they put an end to one of the most horrible concentration camps of the 20th century. We must honor them, just as we must remember each and every victim of the criminal Nazi regime.

To those who continue to use this story to damage Barack Obama, I have a simple question: have you no shame? You attempts to diminish his uncle’s service for your own political gain says a lot more about you than it does about Barack Obama.

If some of the right-wing critics who pounced on this are capable of feeling shame, now would be a good time for it.

I swear to God, some of those people aren’t even human anymore.

  • At long last, have you no decency?

    This seems like good fodder for an Olbermann Special Comment.

  • more douchebaggery microparsing….

    Slave Labor, torture condoned by the far away right….just so long as it stops short of genocide it’s ok.

    I’m sure if there are still survivors around today they would say differently. They are so good at backpeddling aren’t they. Maybe we should by the all unicycles and flip-flops.

    Consummate fat slack jawed mouth-breathing whiners.

  • Please crawl back under the rock you came out from.
    Good day
    Raymond Kitchell, veteran 89th Inf Div

    as we say in online games..”Pwned”\\stfu n00b qq moar.

    these warhawk wannabes dishonor the brave who shed blood so they could get deferrments.

  • After all, Ohrdruf was only a Nazi slave labor camp.

    And the Hanoi Hilton was just a rest camp.

  • SD (first comment), trying his best:

    Obama lives in an America with 57 states, thinks his uncle liberated Auschwitz, believes Arabic translators would be put to better use in non-Arabic speaking Afghanistan, and sees fallen heroes!

  • Please crawl back under the rock you came out from.
    Good day
    Raymond Kitchell, veteran 89th Inf Div

    And not surprisingly, if you follow the link from Sadly, No to the rightwing website, you will find that upon receiving this response from Kitchell the keyboard kommandos immediately starting digging into Kitchell’s background in the comments, and have already started the smear campaign against Kitchell. Dan Riehl and company are some of the most twisted people I have ever heard of.

  • I’m sure it was like a summer camp for Girl Scouts compared to Abu Graib or Guantanamo, or all the extradition camps we don’t know about, so what’s the big deal about what he did?

  • Another example of Republican party allegiance first, human morals a far second.

  • I am sure that all feeling, thing Americans are as appalled by this, but , as history has shown us, even the good, feeling, thinking citizens of Germany, let this happen too.

    The Right knows that education, and constant vigilance, is how we preserve our democracy, and human dignity. Which is precisely why public education has been systematically dismantled. We have undermined our future, to appease our Corporate masters, giving them freedom from liability, taxation, and responsibility.
    But Corporate Americas’ greed knows no boundry. The Corporation needs to feed, and it will do so unto the ends of the earth. Or at least the end of Democracy. And we have been taught, encouraged, to sell out our own principles, our own families, to attain a mere chance at wealth.

    We are in a Fascist state, corporate media is the evidence. This obvious attempt, by one of the the wealthiest men in the world,(Murdoch) to control our minds proves that the Corporate mindset, and those that adhere to it, MUST be stopped.

  • By liberating one camp, one “helped” to liberate the other by freeing other other soldiers to do so.

    The people who died there did so under the stress of work and disease, rather than as a deliberate attempt to wipe them off the planet.

    That’s a disgusting comparison.

    My father spent two years as a Nazi slave with chains on his feet.

  • How surprising is this from the pro torture, pro Gitmo, anti anything other than white, European Christian people?

    When you dehumanize people it’s easy to maim, torture and kill those people in good conscience (yeah, it’s whacked).

    What bothers me most is that the majority of these people spewing bullshit are young, pliable and, well, ignorant. This is the purest form of how to have history repeat itself. And we are proving, right now, today, that history is indeed repeating itself.

  • Just this morning, surfing the internet for “women of note”, I found this information about Ilse Koch, the guard at Buchenwald:

    http://www.auschwitz.dk/Women/Koch.htm

    Ilse Koch

    During World War 2 the infamous Ilse Koch was known as the Bitch of Buchenwald for her bestial cruelty and sadistic behavior. She was the wife of Karl Koch, the Kommandant of Buchenwald, and struck fear into the inmates daily. She was especially fond of riding her horse through the camp, whipping any prisoner who attracted her attention.

    Her hobby was collecting lampshades, book covers, and gloves made from the skins of specially murdered concentration camp inmates, and shrunken human skulls.

    Ilse Koch would specially select prisoners with distinctive tattoos on her rides around the camp. These prisoners would be killed and their skin tanned and stored for later use by the SS guards.

    Her taste for collecting lampshades made from the tattooed skins was described by a witness at The Nuremberg Trials after the war:

    “The finished products (i.e. tattooed skin detached from corpses) were turned over to Koch’s wife, who had them fashioned into lampshades and other ornamental household articles ..”

    In the book Sidelights on the Koch Affair by Stefan Heymann the author pointed out that the fact, that the Kochs had lamps made of human skin did not distinguish them from the other SS officers. They had the same artworks made for their family homes:

    “It is more interesting that Frau Koch had a lady’s handbag made out of the same material. She was just as proud of it as a South Sea island woman would have been about her cannibal trophies .. ”

    She committed suicide in a Bavarian prison on September 1, 1967.

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    Her husband was no less murderous:

    Karl Otto Koch, a colonel of German Schutzstaffel (SS), was the first commandant of Buchenwald (from 1937 to 1941). In 1942, Otto and his wife Ilse received a punative transfer to Majdanek. In August 1943, Karl Koch was arrested by the Gestapo at the request of SS judge Josias Prince of Waldeck-Pyrmont. Karl Otto was charged with the unauthorized murder of three prisoners, while Ilse was accused of the embezzlement of more than 700,000RM. Though Ilse was acquitted, Karl Otto was convicted and shot in April 1945.

    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/biography/KKoch.html

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    The Nazis even classified their prison/concentration camps, and they didn’t classify Buchenwald as a “work-camp”.

    Buchenwald was a Class II camp for hard-core political prisoners, mainly Communists, who were considered to be harder to “rehabilitate.” Consequently, conditions in the Buchenwald camp were more severe than at Dachau and Sachsenhausen, which were Class I camps where many prisoners were released after being brain-washed into accepting such Nazi principles as obedience and hard work. The sign over the iron gates at both Dachau and Sachsenhausen read “Arbeit Macht Frei” or Work Brings Freedom.

    http://www.scrapbookpages.com/buchenwald/JedemDasSeine.html

  • First torture became only “harsh interrogation techniques,”
    now concentration camps are ONLY “slave labor camps.”

    Godwin’s law has been left so far in the rearview mirror. The longer right wingers take on an argument, the more they become nazis.

  • Eventually the camp will be related to Gitmo where gourmet meals reportedly were served featuring nice chicken dishes. Kosher, of course…

  • To take just one anecdote about the “work” done at Buchenwald, prisoners had to build the camp road, and camp guards used to shoot those who were not carrying stones that were heavy enough. In the final days before liberation, some 10,000 prisoners from Auschwitz and Gross-Rossen were marched to Buchenwald, adding to the horrific scene that awaited American troops.

    So, Obama’s great uncle didn’t liberate Auschwitz, but he did liberate thousands of prisoners from Auschwitz. You’d think that would be close enough.

  • Among republicans it would seem the best way to get credit for service during wartime is to join the (preferably Air) National Guard and stay in the US. Didn’t you guys get the memo?

    P

  • The same shit from the same people who said Abu-Graib was more or less akin to fraternity hazing.
    These motherfuckers need to be mocked, shamed, then put in stocks in town square and get spat upon.

  • It’s common knowledge that most wingnuts are Nazi wannabees, failed brownshirts. They’re members of a personality cult led by the grandson of a Nazi financier who was a participant in an attempt at a fascist coup in America i 1933, who only avoided an indictment for TREASON in 1942 by getting himself elected to the Senate. Those members of the far right who aren’t Nazi wannabees are worshipers of the great “Lost Cause” of Southern Treason and White Supremacy.

    Fascist scum are fascist scum are fascist scum.

  • 17. On May 29th, 2008 at 11:53 am, Stevio said:

    Eventually the camp will be related to Gitmo where gourmet meals reportedly were served featuring nice chicken dishes. Kosher, of course…

    Loved it. One minor correction…it should be Halal. Kosher is for Jews. Halal is for Muslims. 😀

  • The ReThug Machine cannot allow the measly inhabitants of this once-great Republic—of “Their Murricah”—to believe that the Buchenwald complex was a bad thing. “Slave Labor” strikes at the very heart of such things as their pathetic excuse for a minimum wage, jobs with zero benefits, casual/part-time employment, and jobs outsourcing, the service industry, and affordable domestic laborers for the hyperwealthy and conservative establishments who may or may not be in the country legally (let’s refer to this as the GOP’s definition of “civilian don’t-ask/don’t-tell”). “Medical experiments” comes dangerously close to describing Medicare D, aggressive interrogations, and John McPhony’s idea of health care for the poor, because we all know that you can only do so much with a lab rat that might be related to a member of the Bush administration….

  • This is beyond absurd. Wouldn’t there have been some republican fathers and grandfathers there liberating that camp too? Perhaps the wingers can just start trashing the entire ‘greatest generation’ en masse.

  • “Once they realized Obama had a great-uncle had actually helped to liberate Buchenwald”

    The Rhiel World boys don’t realize that.
    They believe, or, at least, are hoping to prove
    that there is no great uncle at all
    They’re diligently searching the intertubes for references to “Charles Payne”

  • Also in line with O’Reilly’s still offensive, repeated, and still unapologetic remark that the US Army massacred Nazi prisoners at Malmedy, Belgium during the Battle of the Bulge. My Uncle David (Canadian, then drafted by the US), may he rest in peace, would be very surprised to be considered part of the SS.

  • protip @1 : I swear to God, some of those people aren’t even human anymore.

    I must disagree with the assessment. This sort of behavior is all too human and must be discredited. We are all subject to strong passions and must always be on guard that we do not desend to this level. People commit atrocities when they begin to see their enemies as less than human.

  • An odd thought – in many cases, we’ll hear Republicans talk about “values.”

    However, in the urge to justify their candidates, their worldview, and their policies, they’ll go to great extents to disregard history, people, or rewrite history itself.

    Thus where ARE their values.

    I find the Nazi activities atrocious. If someone liberated one of their death camps, I’m glad. I’m not going to nitpick which part of the Nazi Death Machine was only horrible as opposed to totally horrible. I’m not going to downplay the soldiers that liberated them. Those are values.

    The Republicans have given us a strain of cultic thought where they must always Be Right as opposed to Do The Right Thing. Thus they are valueless.

  • I admit to entertaining thoughts of what the “Ironic Punishments Division” of Hell would mete out to a person who would attempt to discredit a deceased American hero because he helped liberate a slave labor camp rather than a concentration camp.

    (No, it isn’t very nice or Christian of me, but since I’m pretty sure Hell isn’t taken from an episode of the Simpsons anyway, it is relatively harmless.)

  • AK Lib – good point, Wm Golding immortalized humans tendancy for barbarism in “Lord of the Flies.”
    My Dad (during one of the few chat we had about his WWII experiences) told me about what he saw at a liberated Nazi camp. The intensity of these descriptions led me to question why we were in Vietnam later in my life.
    Mr Kitchell complimented these troglidites, they are creepier than anything you’d find under a rock.

  • The far-right crowd is agenda driven, and as such, it serves up anything that reinforces and extends its agenda. Its agenda – “There shalt be no black man in the White House.”

    Balderdash is what the far-right is throwing at us in its attempts to achieve its agenda! It will be up to us to get our nation beyond the pea-brains who spew racial discord whenever they speak. -Kevo

  • This sort of nonsense from the right reminds me of this passage from a Ron Suskind article:
    _______________________________
    In the summer of 2002, after I had written an article in Esquire that the White House didn’t like about Bush’s former communications director, Karen Hughes, I had a meeting with a senior adviser to Bush. He expressed the White House’s displeasure, and then he told me something that at the time I didn’t fully comprehend — but which I now believe gets to the very heart of the Bush presidency.

    The aide said that guys like me were ”in what we call the reality-based community,” which he defined as people who ”believe that solutions emerge from your judicious study of discernible reality.” I nodded and murmured something about enlightenment principles and empiricism. He cut me off. ”That’s not the way the world really works anymore,” he continued. ”We’re an empire now, and when we act, we create our own reality. And while you’re studying that reality — judiciously, as you will — we’ll act again, creating other new realities, which you can study too, and that’s how things will sort out. We’re history’s actors . . . and you, all of you, will be left to just study what we do.”
    ____________________

    I believe that there’s been a trickle-down effect of this knid of (non)thinking, from the Administration to it’s most feverish supporters. After all, it’s worked so well for this Administration up to a point – make shit up, get worked up about it, and while the thinkers and the edumacated folk try to straighten out your bullshit, you’re already 2 or 3 or 4 lines of bullshit beyond that. They’re creating the narrative by creating their own reality. It’s crazy-people logic, sociopathic logic. Whatever kind of conversation you expect to have with them, it’s only going to go in the direction THEY want it to go. You can either go with them, or give up, as far as they’re concerned.

    But there is an alternative.

    Don’t try to change their minds. Change the minds of the minds they’re TRYING to change. It is only then that their voices become marginalized, and then meaningless. They will always have SOME true believers, but if you don’t target them, but the people they’re also targeting, hit them with reality, stun them with the hypocrisy coming from the other side, take the clothespin the other side forced on their nose so they can smell that the bullshit is bullshit, then the other side loses power. They lose face. They become just another bunch of loonys we look upon with pity.

    This is the power of the internet, where their stupid opinions can be proven immoral, their stupid “facts” be proves false, their stupid agenda be proven crazy. There will always be true believers, but if the past 4 years have proven anything, it’s that fewer people are drinking the Kool-Aid. Fewer people are falling for the spin. And the right has to resort to even wilder, stupider stretches of reality to prove their point.

    Obama’s great uncle didn’t save people from a quick death, probably. No, most of those people would’ve dies from starvation, overwork, beatings, or illness brought on by those three things. Auschwitz is a death camp. The others were labor camps where people died horrible. Somehow, that means Obama is a liar and not to be trusted.

    I think it’s obvious who the liars are, and who is not to be trusted. It’s time these bastards get their magic wands taken away, and be forced to live in the same reality they now forced us all to live in.

    Would it be incredibly jerky of me to end with “Good night and good luck?”

  • Au… was liberated by the Soviets, but at the time it was liberated, it had long been abandoned by the Nazis. In fact most of these camps had been abandoned by the Nazis, and Au… had been disassembled and most of the evidence destroyed.

    The camp liberated by the 89th had also been abandoned by the Nazis, and about 1100 prisoners were there at the time. Even with this low number, the prisoners were in such bad health that 25-50 of them died every day! The difference between extermination camps and forced labor camps was obviously only one of degree. Most of those arriving at Au… were disrobed and gassed, then their gold fillings were removed, and their bodies were burned. But the purpose of both camps was to inflict a dehumanizing death on the Jews and other defined outcasts.

    In addition to liberating the camp the 89th ordered the city Mayor to provide food and care for them. Medical supplies were rushed forward. And this was in the middle of a war.

    But just imagine how badly off these folks were in the camps. They were abandoned by the Nazis and yet they were too weak to leave!

  • Again, Obama says something, Republicans attack, and Obama looks better for it. It’s been reported far and wide that Obama has a “Jewish problem,” but now Jewish groups are defending him, or at least attacking his enemy.

    Obama must be better at chess then he is at bowling.

  • Obama’s great-uncle may have served in the 89th Infantry Division, and may have played a part in the liberation of a Nazi camp, but let’s not suggest that this was too important.

    Yeah! The real heroes liberated Auschwitz! If Obama’s uncle was a full-blooded American, he would’ve been a Commie!

  • I recommend that you go to Mr. Raymond Kitchell’s site, for “the Rolling W.” He is obviously an honorable man, the kind you don’t meet so often anymore.

  • toowearyforoutrage said:
    Anyone besides me finding it amusingly surreal that the GOP hopes to paint a black man as an apologist for Nazis?

    Sarah Silverman said that if there had been blacks in Germany back then that there never would have been a holocaust…at least not for Jews.

  • CB writes: How rabidly partisan must one be to disrespect the bravery of U.S. troops in the 89th Infantry Division?

    And how rabidly partisan, deranged, lunatic, demented, and sick must one be to disrespect and diminish the deaths of men and women shot, starved, beaten and worked to death? “Gotcha” politics indeed, a new unspeakable low on what is an ever descending, plummeting road of neo-conservative attack robots — abominable, utterly detached from reality or ethics.

    And awful as it is to read, thanks for the extra background: this needs to get around.

  • “If some of the right-wing critics who pounced on this are capable of feeling shame, now would be a good time for it.”
    Ummm…that’s a big IF!

    Luckily, the longer these people dig to find new lows to reach, the more likely they’ll eventually dig their way to China. Of course, that’s really what they’re hoping for…damn commies! 😉

  • Wingnuts like these assclowns accused decorated Vietnam veterans as being traitors because they spoke out against the Iraq War.

    They demonized the actions of an actor suffering from Parkinson’s.

    They went after a 13 year-old and his family who benefited from SCHIPs.

    They supported the outing a loyal CIA officer and compromised national security just to punish her husband.

    I could go on, but we all know the history here.

    At what point does America look at the shit being slung at them by Rush, Hannity, Savage, the wingnut websites, Fox & Friends, and all the other right-wing whackjobs, and just say “God, you people make me sick.”?

  • Making these nazis sound like rare horrors and infamous sadist circus acts misses the very real point that we are surrounded by people just like them who just haven’t had the right circumstances to demonstrate the same behavior. Just reading through some of these right wing blogs proves it. Michelle Malkin could easily transform into llse Koch, the same with her patch-eyed twin.

    The same war-torture and silence dissidents mentality that is prevalent in the republican right is what led to the nazi concentration camps to begin with and is all around us now seeking to maintain and increase power. This is what we are trying to change in the next election and which McCain, intentionally or not, represents.

    Look at how the dogs of condemnation and repression have been released on Scott McCellan. Just how they are released on anyone who speaks truth to this regime.

  • “It wasn’t Auschwitz. It was a labor camp called Buchenwald.” As part of the same segment, Fox News ran this all-caps message on its bottom-of-the-screen ticker: “Ohrdruf was a work camp, rather than an extermination camp.”

    And, as usual, Faux was full of it. Oswiecim (Auschwitz) was *not* an extermination camp either; it was a concentration/labour camp, same as Buchenwald, as Ravensbrück, as Theresin, as Majdanek. Why else, do you you think, Auschwitz had “Arbeit macht frei” over its entrance gates?

    The only truly *extermination* camp — started and ended with no other purpose — that I know of was Sobibór. Add to that the re-transportation of some of the Auschwitz prisoners to Buchenwald (like those friends of my mother’s, whom I mentioned yesterday) and Obama was way closer to the truth than the fright wing is ever going to admit — there was damned little difference between the two Buchenwald and Auschwitz).

    Yesterday, we had a fright wing visitor here, claiming that no way could such a family story get so distorted (wrong camp, wrong location, wrong liberating army), being told and re-told many times.. But. First off, it was not Obama’s father or even grandfather (who raised him part time); it was a grand uncle, so who knows how many times that story was told within Obama’s hearing — could have been but once.

    I’d bet that the reason he remembered it at all was that the said grand uncle, on coming back home, shut himself in the attic for six months. I bet that that would be a detail likely to captivate a boy’s imagination much more than strange foreign names of the camps or their location (Germany and Poland)

  • Worth having a look at the photos in the Wikipedia Buchenwald article to see what a lovely place it was. Elie Wiesel was a prisoner there. As I recall, he didn’t really regard his experience as a cakewalk. I can’t fathom what the Republican party has become.

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