It’s her party, and she’ll cry if she wants to

Following up on an item from a few weeks ago, crying has come a long way in politics. In 1972, Ed Muskie wept outside the offices of the New Hampshire Union Leader, and it was, at the time, a political disaster. Americans just weren’t ready to tolerate grown men in leadership positions emoting like this in public.

But that was decades ago. Now, House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-Ohio) feels so strongly about his support for Bush’s Iraq policy that he cried on the House floor in November. And in May. And in February. OK, so the guy cries a lot.

The point is that tears are no longer particularly controversial. At least, it shouldn’t be. And yet, for reasons that I don’t quite understand, this has become the biggest political story of the day.

Exhausted and facing the prospect of losing the second test of her primary campaign, Hillary Rodham Clinton fought back tears as her voice broke at the close of a sedate event in a Portsmouth coffee shop.

She expressed the sheer difficulty of heading out to the trail each day — “It’s not easy,” she said — and suggested she faced “pretty difficult odds.”

And with audible frustration and disbelief, she drew the contrast between her experience and Sen. Barack Obama’s that suggests that her campaign’s current message — the question of who is ready — matches her profound sense that she alone is ready for the job.

“Some of us know what we are going to do on day one, and some of us haven’t thought that through enough,” she said…. “Some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not. Some of us know what we are going to do on day one, and some of us haven’t thought that through enough,” she said.

As the video shows, this was obviously very emotional for Clinton, who shed quite a few tears during her answer, just as she did last month at an Iowa event with some of her constituents and childhood friends.

But ABC’s headline on this strikes me as wildly unfair: “Can Clinton’s Emotions Get the Best of Her?”

Get the best of her? These candidates, all of the ones who are really giving it their all, are enduring a grueling, painful process, with very little sleep, poor nutrition, and intense, constant pressure. Given how exhausted these folks are, I’m actually surprised more candidates don’t cry more often.

What’s the charge here? That Clinton got emotional? There’s nothing wrong with emotion. That she’s faking it? Nonsense; she’s not that good an actor. That’s she’s cracking under pressure? That’s just absurd.

To be sure, Clinton’s comments might have been a little more touching if she hadn’t launched into her anti-Obama talking points through her tears, but given the circumstances, I’m willing to cut her all kinds of slack.

On a related note, I was disappointed by Edwards’ reaction.

John Edwards was asked in Lakeport about reports that Hillary had teared up.

“I really don’t have anything to say about that,” he said. “I think what we need in a commander in chief is strength and resolve, and presidential campaigns are a tough business, but being president of the United States is also a very tough business. And the president of the United States is faced with very very difficult challenges every single day, difficult judgments every single day. What I know is that I’m prepared for that, and I’m in this fight for the middle class, for the future of this country, for the long haul.”

If this is an accurate quote, it’s a surprisingly cheap shot. Clinton wept, so she lacks “strength”? She teared up, so she’s unprepared for “tough business”? He’s more “prepared” because he didn’t cry?

If this really was Edwards’ response, I have to admit, I’ve lost some respect for him.

Come on. Edwards resonse is exactly why everyone is headlining the story. Everyone knows crying = weakness in all things. And everyone knows only women cry. So, of course this proves, for once and for all, that only a man can handle being President.

Duh.

  • This one is flying every which way.

    How, exactly, does Hillary know the Barack hasn’t “thought enough” about what he’d do as President, on day one or on the day the Terrorists attack again?

    As for John, he says he’s ready for the very tough business of being President. In the circumstances he’s implying that Hillary is not. If those circumstances hadn’t existed (he was just asked about Hillary ‘tearing up’) this would have been a perfectly fine statement.

    Frankly, however, I expect Elizabeth to slap him upside his head.

  • “What’s the charge here? That Clinton got emotional? There’s nothing wrong with emotion. That she’s faking it? Nonsense; she’s not that good an actor. That’s she’s cracking under pressure? That’s just absurd.”

    C’mon, CB. What’s the charge? It’s — take your pick — running for office, driving, working, leading … while female. ABC should have known better, but there are still a load of folks out there who live by stereotypes. (I assume your question was aimed at stirring the comment pot and not a serious question, but I had to reply.)

  • I would also add that Robo-Romney tears up and it doesn’t get a fraction of this coverage.

    Kerry teared up one of the first campaign rallies where his war buddies reunited.

    Sadly, it appears this country really isn’t ready for a woman president. Which puts us in the league of third world countries. oh yeah – some of them have had women leaders. oops.

    Every time you see someone use the term “shrill,” ask yourself if you’ve ever heard that applied to a male candidate. Or witch. Or bitchy. Or hormonal. (all of which I have seen in the last few days re HRC).

    It is a sadly sexist country. The only way it will change is to break the glass ceiling – to get it over with, to shove it down the bigots’ throats.

  • As echidne over at Eschaton just asked: “Now could someone in the media write a piece about exactly how a female candidate may show emotion, when and where.”

    Hillary simply can’t win. How ever she dresses, it will be wrong. However she speaks, her voice will be shrill the moment she shows resolve. She can’t be strong without being a bitch. I have difficulty understanding how every woman in America doesn’t understand this to their very core, because they all live it to some degree.

    One moment of emotion yields: “Can Clinton’s Emotions Get the Best of Her?” Can anyone honestly wonder why she built the facade she has with this crap waiting around every corner?

    And I can’t understand how Hillary stands it. She has been under nearly constant, vile attack from the RW haters for 15 years, with those attacks frequently echoed in the msm. Most people, and I would hazard most people who read this blog, would be curled up in a fetal position in a padded room after enduring the shit she has endured. Yet she gets up and goes out every day and gets things done.

    Amazing, powerful, talented woman, who deserves much better than this.

  • Steve Benen wrote:

    “As the video shows, this was obviously very emotional for Clinton, who shed quite a few tears during her answer, just as she did last month at an Iowa event with some of her constituents and childhood friends.”

    There were no tears in this video today that I can see, and I’ve watched it carefully, two or three times at high magnification. Could you point us to the precise place where Clinton “shed quite a few tears during her answer”? Maybe I need new glasses.

  • I watched the “emotional” clip. This is even more fluffy than a $400 hair cut. Pundits scream that she’s unemotional; pundits scream that she’s emotional. They really want her out. If her stand on issues was more in alignment with mine, I’d vote for her just to spite them.

  • I’m not sure what Edwards is up to – did Hillary kick his dog or something? All of a sudden he has made this very personal with her. I appreciated his anger against the Republicans – I share it – but to go scorched earth on another Democrat is a bit much.

    He has been sucking up to Obama so much the last few days I swear he is merely running for VP, but his ever-increasing vitriol at someone who has a lot of support within the party would surely make him radioactive for a Presidential candidate who is preaching sweetness and light.

  • If you go to church on Christmas Eve or Easter, you can see a lot of the true believers crying here and there.

    Just saying, crying happens.

  • Hillary “shed quite a few” tears? Hmm . . . I watched the video and failed to see one actual tear. Her eyes did glisten slightly for a moment, and yet she stuck precisely to her talking points the entire time. That’s not “cracking” or getting “emotional,” that’s a professional politician facing her political demise.

  • given 7 years of the consequences of ameateur hour, i happen to like “professional” in my politicians, particularly those seekingto be President. being able to both have emotions (even just “glistening”) and staying focused while doing so seems a pretty positive thing.

  • I first heard the clip on the radio, and it sounded more emotional than watching the video…

    There is no question she is emotional and fighting back the tears, but after watching the video I think this is way overblown. Her voice cracks, she is clearly exhausted, but she is personally connecting with an audience and, to me, the emotion is more humanizing and revealing of her personal commitment than a sign of weakness.

    And I have been bashing Hillary all week. I am an Obama guy, and I am glad he is saying the hell away from this.

    Edwards should be ashamed. I think it was a mistake to try and capitalize in it.

  • There’s nothing untrue about what Edwards said – it is a tough job, and whoever holds that position does need strength and resolve. Was he taking a sideways punch at her? Only he knows the answer to that, but tell me this: in the debate Saturday night, Hillary had a very warm, funny and human moment when she responded on the likeability factor – “I think I’m likeable,” and Obama, in what I thought was a very un-classy and dismissive response that may have revealed more about how he really feels about her, said, “you’re likeable enough, Hillary,” with not an ounce of humor or grace or warmth.

    Where was the hue-and-cry on that one? Oh, that’s right – it was Hillary, so we don’t have to care. This is the same woman who, rather charitably, delivered hot coffee and bagels to the press bus, and was met by stone, cold silence. Yeah, that’s fair. The same people who gush and giggle and flirt with George Bush, for crying out loud, could not be bothered to reflect one degree of warmth to this woman.

    If we’re going to be mean, let’s just be mean to all of the candidates – let’s turn this into a real cutthroat, knives sharpened, slice-and-dice.

    At some point, this is all going to start blowing back the other way and sympathy will trump mean-spirited gang-tackling. If she’s feeling desperate, if it’s all falling apart before her eyes, let it be because she wasn’t the right candidate or the best candidate, not because she cried, or she doesn’t laugh right, or something equally stupid.

  • I’m sorry. I have little empathy for people who cry out of self-pity when they’re losing, and that includes Mitt Romney.

    In other contexts, it would be completely appropriate to get emotional. But for a politician falling behind in the polls, I’m sorry, there’s no excuse.

  • What in the he##!! is wrong with emotion? This should not even be a topic. She didn’t break down, she just showed some emotion. To my mind it is a plus for Clinton. She is human, despite some people trying to characterize her as something more robotic.

    Having said that I urge everyone to vote for John Edwards who I think is right on about the biggest problem our democracy is facing and who I think is clever enough and tough enough to counter it: Corporate take over or the buy out of democracy. Clinton having been a large part of that culture (accepts campaign funds from major corporate interests) would thus not be a good choice to my way of thinking. I think she has become inured to business as usual.

  • “I’m sorry. I have little empathy for people who cry out of self-pity when they’re losing…”

    That is in fact the headline — Not that Hills is emotional, but that she is emotional because she is losing!!! She came off as if she was in disbelief that she was not crowned POUS.

  • Does anyone know whether Edwards actually saw or listened to Clinton before he was asked for his thoughts on her “tearing up?” I think that might be important to know, but maybe it’s just easier to assume that he was taking a cheap shot, as opposed to saying he didn’t have anything to say about it, and then talking about what it means to be the president. Granted, he probably should have just shut up, but let’s remember that Edwards’ opportunities to have the microphone are less frequent than the average man in the street in NH, so I’m going to cut him some slack for trying to say something true about what it means to be president, on the off chance that he isn’t relegated to being today’s “John Who?”

  • Anne,

    You know I like John Edwards but he crossed the line there. That comment today was just mean spirited. Really, really wanting to be president can often make good people do things they end up regretting later.

  • It’s not HER party, it is our party, and her choking up- not crying- is as phoney as you get, for during the whole choking up she is saying all of her talking points, she is like a robot.

  • It was calculated. It didn’t mean that she was acting. It was something that is quite emotional for her and decided that bring it in knowing that it will bring emotions. It is like in a middle of a conversation I decide to talk about the death of my dog over new year, I know that I will be emotional. She needed to show her softer side.

  • CB, why do you so quickly dismiss the possibility that she cracked under pressure?

    When was she under adversity before Iowa?

    It wasn’t that rough until she came in third in Iowa. In 2004, it happened to Dean.

    Dean screamed
    Hil cried.

    it just took a little while to see the cracks

  • Sorry guys, this is nothing that any woman in America doesn’t know intimately. If we are strong, we’re bitchy. Our communication skills suck if we’re direct. We’re PMSing if we snap off a sharp comment or become emotional in any way. And to get to any senior position, of course, we slept our way there. It’s disgusting but it is what it is. This doesn’t surprise me one bit.

    I am disappointed in Edwards. I always liked him and, even though I am in IL, I was planning on voting for him in the primary.

    I am sick of the dems eating their own. I am starting to lean more towards Obama who tends to remain above it all simply because he does so. I am disgusted by what politics has denigrated into. I think we need a leader right now and every negative ad or comment makes me like whomever is doing it less and less.

  • Ask Dr. Phil for his take on why Britney Spears broke down, and he will cite the stress of her celebrity status that is not going anywhere upward despite her great potential as a singer. Then ask him his take on Hillary’s break down, and he will cite almost the same thing. Hillary’s expectation levels have been high, and not just after launching her presidential run; but since her intern days in Congress back in 1968. To have come this far after 35 years of building up her expectations only to be blocked by voters – not Obama – who do not like her, is a major psychological blow. Especially given she is the wife of the man who was a successful governor and president, and thinks she can do an equally good or better job than he did as president. If only the people could see her dreams as they are being shattered right before her eyes. Humbling or humiliating, only time will tell! Where’s Bill?

  • Tears do not equate with weakness. Period.

    I couldn’t care less if a candidate cried and neither should anyone else. What matters is where that candidate stands on the important issues and whether or not you believe that she or he has the capacity to be a strong leader who will keep the people’s interests in mind at all times.

    Considering how long she was the frontrunner and the current state of her campaign, I can see why she would be upset. I certainly would be.

  • As a follow-up: Would she still have choked up had she taken Iowa and was leading all polls in New Hampshire? I don’t think so!

    People are not voting for Obama or supporting Obama because they really like him as much as they don’t like Hillary. Ask any sane American if they believe a Black man can run and win the US Presidency in a race all the other candidates are white? America is not ready for a Black President, and even if might take a chance with a female President, it doesn’t want Hillary! So the race right now is a referendum on Hillary as much as some may want it to be a referendum on Obama’s electability.

  • I used to wonder how Bill Clinton managed to get up each morning and face yet another day of vicious attacks from every direction. How many could do that, without cracking up? Have we forgotten how Nixon cracked under the threat of impeachment?

    Now I wonder how Hillary manages. She’s been attacked mercilessly for more years than Bill, and the past few weeks have been torture as the media has been beating her to death, day in and day out. I admire her for her courage and perseverance. She knew going in that the wolves would run her down and the vultures would finish her off, but she went ahead anyway.

    Two months ago she was on top of the world, the “inevitable” nominee, and most likely the first woman to be president. Now she’s toast. Washed up. Finished. And still being attacked by the media.

    It’s sickening.

  • ***Steve*** I didn’t get that at all CB. Edwards was saying it’s a really tough business(hell it can even make you cry)…what we need is somebody with strength and resolve( because the job will get to you from time to time, hell it can even make you cry) and the preident of the US is faced with difficult challenges and judgments every single day( all of us running know that, know how demanding it is and how tough we have to make ourselves because as you know it will make us cry from time to time)…see what I mean.

    By Edwards 1st sentence of, “I really don’t have anything to say about that” he was telling us just that… nothing should be said about that…about Clinton and then went on to tell us he knows how tough you have to be to do this job etc. His wife has cried many times while showing the intense courage to face her dilemma. He was saying he is ready for the long haul and would take on the job that obviously will make you cry from time to time from the strain. We have to be tough was all I got from his comment.

  • This is so freaking stupid for so many reasons I don’t even know where to begin.

    The misogyny inherent in the “weak” comments and criticism … the rather insulting and disappointing response from Edwards (they guy’s obviously desperate) … the fact anyone from the GOP can weep like the average toddler with a boo boo, but the media goes nuts when a Dem shows a sliver of emotion (this, Dean’s “scream”) … and there’s the fact she didn’t, you know, actually cry

    I guess it just goes to show that:

    1.) This country may be “ready” for a woman president, but the media isn’t.

    2.) The media has done such a horrific job the past two decades that it’s no wonder so few people pay attention to politics.

    Maybe some day a woman can be a human being without having her strength questioned, while also being strong and assertive without being labeled a “bitch.”

    Guess we’re not quite there yet.

  • If folks think she broke down during this talk, they haven’t actually looked at it. She may have had tears in her eyes – my screen is so small I couldn’t see any – but she didn’t cry, didn’t break down. I want her to lose too but I’m not going to invent flaws to make sure it happens. And while John Edwards is the candidate I’m voting for, I didn’t like his response intimating Clinton wasn’t up for the job. They all are up for the job. They all have flaws. As others have said before, let’s stop eating our young. Those who don’t win the nomination will still be players in our future.

  • Has she been under tremendous pressure, sufficient enough for an emotional outburst such as this?

    Yes—but perhaps what should be given greater weight is the underlying keystone of that pressure. The “runaway frontrunner;” the inevitable nominee that was Hillary Clinton, is no more. Tonight, she is faced with the probability—and a high-confidence probability at that—of losing New Hampshire by a larger margin than in Iowa. She’s seeing the specter of South Carolina flocking into the Obama camp which, added to the mix of two resounding defeats, will call into national question her ability to regain momentum and maintain through to the convention. She’s spent huge sums of money on the first two primary events, and the simple truth is that she cannot continue such massive financial hemorrhaging, only to lose time and again.

    Earlier, a drudge report mentioned the possibility of her abandoning the quest if she loses NH and SC. Given everything that her campaign has fed the Drudge machine these past few months, part of her reaction might be based on this.

    Unidentified members of her staff are “quoted” as saying there’s no visible way to reverse the Obama trend. That, too, has to hurt.

    But the Clinton political machine has invested well over a decade of time, resources, and media in hyping the very notion that an African American could, indeed, become President of the United States. It’s almost what one might label a “Frankenstein Moment,” but in this case, the mad doctor creates not a brutish monster—but a superior being.

    And the more negative Madame Chillary becomes, the more superior her “creation” becomes.

    But to invoke a “boo hoo, because I’m better than he is and you won’t believe me” gambit is beneath cheap. It’s even beneath some of the howler monkeys currently running the the GOPer nomination. It is purely despicable on the most elemental of philosophical levels.

    Just as America does not need a continuation of the insanity that is the GOP, it equally does not need someone who would employ a tearful moment as a quilt with which to wrap an attack on her opponent. This nation needs a leader who is above such deep-discount subterfuge—and intentional or not, HRC has now demonstrated that she is no longer the candidate equal to that need….

  • CB, why do you so quickly dismiss the possibility that she cracked under pressure?

    When was she under adversity before Iowa?

    It wasn’t that rough until she came in third in Iowa. In 2004, it happened to Dean.

    Dean screamed
    Hil cried.

    it just took a little while to see the cracks

    All the other instances of crying mentioned involved a tragedy or personal joy and camraderie.

    Hil’s crying because she feels unappreciated for her talent
    It’s self pity

  • williamjacobs @ 30

    thanks for repeating another false media/repub meme. Dean did not crack.
    i was in the audience. and if you ever heard the tapes from the audience, non-manipulated, it sounds totally different than it did on the network recordings — much of the media admitted as much once it was far too late to do any good and they had their session of false introspection.

    i’m not sure what people would have these candidates do when they lose and early state. Surely they aren’t expected to drop out (many, many non-winners in Iowa have gone on to win the nomination). But if they try and keep the fire in the supporters, they get trashed (Dean). If they get emotion, they get trashed (HRC). Presumably they can’t get too aggressive nor be too passive and look they have given up, either.

    when i worked behind the scenes in politics i was often asked if i wanted to run myself someday. i am soooooo reminded of why the answer was an emphatic “no.”

  • Maybe HRC was tearing up as she finally connected to what are her “false hopes’.

  • What is wrong with the news media in this country? A person shows some emotion during her campaign and it is suppose to be a hot story. Is Hilary Clinton not human? Are you suppose to be a “Terminator” to run for President in this country?
    This is straight out of the Republican playbook. Remember Howard Dean and the noise like “RRRR” that emanated from his mouth when he was on campaign in 2004? The new media made so much out of it and many of us like sheep swallowed the nonsense.

  • ***see what you did CB? You got people accepting your interpretation of Edward’s comments as something negative when they can just as easily be interpreted as I did in the above comment. His first comment said what he thought of that particular incident involving Clinton…”I really don’t have anything to say about that”. That is the only part of his statement that even related to Clinton’s tearing up. Hell, you even have ANNE second guessing his comments. John’s character is hardly the type that would try to make something out Clinton tearing up…come on…you know this. He was merely talking about how hard it is and that he would be the strongest candidate to deal with the difficulties of the office in spite of the fact that it may make him cry too. I thought it was rather petty to assume he was taking a cheap shot at Hillary. Usually you are more optimistic in your interpretations than most of us ever are. Just saying…

  • until about a week ago, bjobotts, i would have agreed with you. but he has seemed so personally, viscerally anti-HRC in the past week that it is hard to give him the benefit of the doubt on a statement that seems perfectly consistent with his disdainful tone toward and about her in numerous other comments the past several days.

  • williamjacobs, Having seen people actually crack under pressure before, I can assure you that CB is dismissing the charge because it isn’t true. This is a manufactured “event”. As much as some of us would love to see her crash and burn, this was not it.

  • Jeez! I can remember that Bush has been repeatedly criticized because he didn’t show emotion about all the dead soldiers in Iraq. His only expression has been a smirk for 7 years. I would have taken tears about that any time.
    The lady is tired and has been being ground down for months. I’m pretty sure that all of us on this string would cry too if we had worked this hard and got this much criticism for this long and were watching it slip away.
    I plan to vote for Barack but still – I have no issue with a “person with emotions” in the White House and am real tired of the tears = weakness crowd. Every woman in this world will tell you that she has cried while she was swinging her sword.

  • ***right on wvng #7*** I’m surprised the ABC headline didn’t read, “Can Clinton’s Emotions Get the Best of Her…Or Is She Just Having Her Period…Again? This is so pathetic it’s insulting that they thought it was news worthy.
    Let’s keep the focus on the issues huh? Then to try to smear Edwards by mis-interpreting his clear comments…”I really don’t have anything to say about that”. Clinton’s new banner should read. “it’s a curse to be blessed”. @

  • NOT a cheap shot from Edwards.

    As for Hillary crying — it may be unfair that the press covers this closer than the other two politicians that wept, but then they were not in the limelight of a Presidential race.

    Personally, I think the pressure is getting to her.

  • Josh said, “This is a manufactured event.” Not saying I know or even believe this is true, but given that the media’s response is absolutely predictable and Hillary’s behavior was far from extreme, the question is who is doing the manufacturing? She is, as we all know, a clever girl(I couldn’t resist).

  • I think she has jumped the shark with the phoney crying. The country is so over the Clintons and the drama. We need someone fresh and inspiring.

  • The crying, or tearing up, or whatever it is, doesn’t bother me one bit. If anything, it makes me like her more–she’s human and responding to an incredibly stressful situation as a human.

    But then she immediately follows with the perfect distillation of why I and so many other progressives can’t stand her politically:

    “Some of us know what we are going to do on day one, and some of us haven’t thought that through enough,” she said…. “Some of us are right and some of us are wrong. Some of us are ready and some of us are not. Some of us know what we are going to do on day one, and some of us haven’t thought that through enough,” she said.

    Why not just scream “ME ME ME ME ME ME I WANNIT I WANNIT!!!!” and have done with it?

    Add this to the rest of the spaghetti (I could use a viler term) thrown against the wall since Saturday: Obama’s anti-choice, he won’t be effective against a terrorist attack, he’s too liberal on guns… and Clinton is starting to be at risk of turning herself into a Giuliani-esque embarrassment.

  • ABC’s headline totally pissed me off. I think that gun was already loaded and they were just waiting for place to use the line.

    For one thing, Hillary was sitting at a table full of women. If they turned their sympathy on me I’d probably cry myself. But like Jen said, she didn’t cry. Tearing up a little is not crying and it’s definitely not letting her emotions get the better of her.

    That said, Hillary doesn’t deserve any special criticism for crying, nor does she deserve any special sympathy for crying. While she was crying she was also making points about her competitors unreadiness to be President. That’s why I think Edwards said

    What I know is that I’m prepared for that, and I’m in this fight for the middle class, for the future of this country, for the long haul.”

    CB wrote:

    In 1972, Ed Muskie wept outside the offices of the New Hampshire Union Leader, and it was, at the time, a political disaster. Americans just weren’t ready to tolerate grown men in leadership positions emoting like this in public.

    Also, I think America was more ready than one might think for a for a man to cry in public. It was the fucking Republicans and the media who turned that episode into a disaster–a disaster of their own making. It’s been going on a long time.

  • Some people criticize HIillary for crying because she’s losing. Why would she cry if she were winning? Duh.

    Dale taps on microphone. “This is comment # 57. Is there anyone out there?”

  • I’m no HRC fan and never have been, but I see no reason or this to be an issue AT ALL. Read the full transcript, folks, starting with the question and note where Clinton chokes up — it’s when she says she does this difficult thing day after day because she cares deeply. If this is fake, the woman deserves an academy award for best screen performance in one take in front of a live audience. But before I decide it’s fake, I need some evidence and I have NONE.

    I’ve been ADBC (any Dem but Hillary) all along, but busting her for this is flat out unfair and irrelevant.

  • Dale said, ‘ Why would she cry if she were winning?’ Emotional expressions can be incredibly complex. I think it was a WVU plyer in a bowl game this week who caught a long TD pass and ran to the sideline looking as happy as a person can. A minute later he was bawling like a baby.

  • I’m sorry, but I think John Edwards nailed it. I’ve never seen anybody cry because they’re exhausted. I could be wrong, but I believe Clinton cried because she’s feeling sorry for herself. She’s only human, and I can sympathize. But for me, crying under these circumstances are just another reason not to vote for her.

  • I’ve never seen anybody cry because they’re exhausted.

    It’s not “because,” but exhaustion definitely can bring emotions much closer to the surface–to the point where the thing that ostensibly sets you off, were you on full rest, probably wouldn’t even generate a wrinkled brow. I speak from experience here.

    Additionally, a female candidate like Clinton, who has staked so much on seeming “the toughest,” probably wouldn’t have chosen to manifest such vulnerability.

    As I wrote, the crying thing doesn’t bother me at all–nor does the fact that she’s upset. But she continues to come off as self-obsessed and mean-spirited, and increasingly (not from the tears, but from the smears) desperate.

  • man, nice acting job! great crocodile tears to cover the trail of words that are damning her adversaries.

    clinton continues to befuddle — she comes across as solid (in my eyes) in the NH debate only to follow it up with this soap opera. now it’s ‘personal’ for her, too.

  • Everybody (candidates, pundits, reporters, voters, commentators here, et al.) seems to need to take a couple of days off. The candidates have run themselves ragged. They are being put through one hell of a grind, with no end of stress. Reporters and pundits are overinterpreting everything, and evidently can’t find the time to sit and think anything out (see Bill O’Reilly as a prime example of a media yahoo loosing it completely). If Hillary gets a bit emotional, I see it as entirely understandable and no big deal one way or another.

    Hillary’s not my first choice, but she’s getting a raw deal in terms of coverage and public perception, partly because of her gender.

  • Anyone remember the perpetual psychodrama of the Clinton White House? I think Gore lost in part because of that, and this little mess is bringing all of that back again. No wonder Obama is leading–a great number of people (me included) are simply sick and tired of this perpetual self-dramatization. Please, please get off the stage, Ms. Clinton.

    Oh, right–tears in eyes–real, but so what. We’ll never know if they were real or not. I’m inclined to think they were tears of frustration. Edwards–foolish of him to take the bait, but if you look at what he said he’s getting a raw deal. ABC–unprintable. Why don’t they get Paris Hilton to comment while they’re at it?

  • Hillary supporters should lay off Edwards a bit, if he quits Hillary is burnt toast.

  • I know if I thought I was the only hope of saving the country from the Bushistas, and I’d just lost a decisive vote to a guy I believed was an amateur who they could eat for a snack, and I were thinking about a Republican like Huckabee or Romney winning, well, I’d get pretty choked up too. It was nice to see a human being, not Robo-Clinton.

    Still, she’s not the only hope of saving the country, and her thinking she is, well, that’s part of why I won’t vote for her.

  • zeitgeist#43
    a little media judo.
    I never felt Dean’s scream was so bad.
    I do wonder if he wasn’t rather wrecked by a campaign in which he wasn’t an incumbent, though. (He became gov because the sitting governor died in office.)

    If the world refuses to believe Dean didn’t lose his marbles that day, hell, I’m going to use it.

  • I am no supporter of HRC. But, what I saw was the culmination of frustration and exhaustion so why the big deal.
    I’d be screaming myself if my campaign was collapsing in front of me right at primary time.
    However, I noticed it did not stop her from her continued assaults on Obama’s character and sending out more smear letters. Probably just to work off a little of that frustration.

  • I see a lot of people arguing that it’s OK to cry and a several of others arguing the implications of crying might mean in this case and I guess the one question I have would be:

    Does it matter to anyone that she didn’t actually cry?

    What’s that old quote about an oft-repeated lie?

  • I finally got to see the clip, and now I have no idea what the big fuss is about. It’s not like she put her head down on the table and sobbed – her voice, already strained from non-stop talking, cracked a bit, and her eyes shone a little with moisture, but that was about it.

    I have been so tired I could – and have – cried, but it’s the kind of thing you sometimes don’t dare to open the door on out of fear that once it starts, you won’t be able to stop.

    She’s an immensely proud woman, who has endured years of intensely public scrutiny over private events she had no control over, and which had to have been deeply humiliating. That she managed to hold her head up then does not make the woman a robot, or inhuman or fake – maybe it just means that she chose to keep private things private.

    She’s under that intense public scrutiny again, only this time she’s a decade older, and if she’s had more than 4 uninterrupted hours of sleep a night for the last month, that was probably a fluke. I’d be willing to bet there are few people who could maintain that kind of schedule as well as she has – as they all have.

    Give her a break.

  • Remember this? Bush Sr. Weeps 4 Loser Sons.

    I think Hillary’s almost-crying jag was genuine, but I did wonder for a second if it was a calculated move to play the always-before-successful victim card. It made her look pathetic and desperate, though. Previously, she has always been a noble victim with her head held high. It’s not fair, for sure, but she will be punished for losing control, even though she functioned right through it.

  • When I viewed the video, I saw a determined, passionate candidate explaining why she cares so much about the Presidency. She explained herself convincingly in a way real people can appreciate. Forget the hype about Hillary not being genuine, etc. Watch the tape, and see for yourself. This video makes me more likely to vote for Hillary, not less. ABC’s headline suggesting her emotions somehow got the best of her has it bass ackwards. Hillary would do well to present have this video distributed widely.

  • Given the circumstances, with a shill asking her a planted question that allowed her to pretend to be an actual human being, I’m not going to give that manufactured robot one ounce of slack. She has demonstrated – in her reaction to not being voted Most Popular Girl In High School – that she should never be allowed back in the White House even as a visitor.

    That people can’t see this as more Clinton bullshit is amazing to me. I could tell by the wording of the question it was a shill reading a script.

    Thank god 24 hours from now (writing at 12:02 a.m. Jan 8 Pacific Time) she’ll be gone gone gone.

    Glub…glub…blug… “I’m melting! I’m melting! How could you be so cruel to me?!” glub.. glub…

  • You quoted Hillary as saying “Some of us know what we are going to do on day one, and some of us haven’t thought that through enough,”

    It appears that this is a refrence to Barack Obama, but I assumed he included his thoughts in his Kindergarten essay.

  • Crud.
    I just watched the whole clip.
    I was wrong.
    It wasn’t desperate, it wasn’t self-pity.
    It was empty words for a softball question lobbed by a simpering sycophant.

    The “some of us are ready and some aren’t” was vague enough that I couldn’t label it a swipe at Obama. That said, it was a disposable comment for a disposable question and what else should she do?

    I still don’t like her, but the Hil defenders are right. This was a non-issue. It’s always best to watch these ‘events” for yourself, a lot like the Dean scream like Zeitgeist said.
    I commented based on others’ observations of events. Never a good idea. Shame on me.

  • I think women in power are always in a Catch-22 situation. We’re bitches if we’re strong and resolved, we’re pathetic and weak if we cry. That being said, I have to say that it’s awfully convenient that she let her vulnerable side show, after all of these years and all of the hardships she’s faced on the eve of the primary. And after all of this time, when she shows her emotions, it’s not for a belief, it’s not for someone who’s suffering without healthcare, it’s not for anyone but Hillary. This is all about her. Also, her quote, ‘some of us are right, some of us are wrong’, well does she consider herself the authority on what is right and what it wrong? The ego is huge and it’s all about her. I read her book, it’s what I came away with….”look at me, look at me.”

    We need more than that to heal our country.

  • It’s not the first cheap shot that Edwards has taken at Hillary – he attacks personally but does not know enough about foreign policy to actually call out Hillary’s actual flawed record – I do not want someone like him to represent me against Republicans…

  • Rules for any Professional Woman

    Mistakes – Be the first to laugh at yourself – then get back on track.
    Being a crazy bitch who is feared is better than being stabbed in the back.
    Being thought of as a bitch is better than being though of as nice. (Do you remember any other name except Omarosa from any of the apprentices, male or female? Thought not.)
    Never let them see you sweat.
    Never let them see you cry.
    Never give any man any more power than you have to.

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