“It’s the Cities, Stupid”

Guest post by Ed Stephan

In several of my Carpetbagger comments I have linked to an excellent article by the editors of Seattle’s offbeat paper, The Stranger, titled “The Urban Archipelago” (subtitled “It’s the Cities, Stupid”). It moves well beyond what has become the standard “red-state blue-state” characterization of American politics. A county-by-county red-blue 2004 map like this:

red-blue counties 2004

they say

provides a clearer picture of the bind the Democrats finds themselves in. The majority of the blue states–Washington, Oregon, California, Illinois, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, Delaware–are, geographically speaking, not blue states. They are blue cities.

Look at our famously blue West Coast. But for the cities–Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, Los Angeles, and San Diego–the West Coast would be a deep, dark red. The same is true for other nominally blue states. Illinois is almost entirely red–Chicago turns the state blue. Michigan is almost entirely red–Detroit, Lansing, Kalamazoo turn it blue. And on and on. What tips these states into the blue column? Their urban areas do, their big, populous counties.

It’s time for the Democrats to face reality: They are the party of urban America. If the cities elected our president, if urban voters determined the outcome, John F. Kerry would have won by a landslide. Urban voters are the Democratic base.

The article continues with a brilliant analysis of the place of cities, their “urban vision” for the Democratic Party, and so on. It’s really well worth reading. You can see an even more dramatic map of the “blue vote” here.

I want to add just a bit more perspective. Using U.S. Census Bureau data on Population Characteristics, I generated the following chart:

urban and rural population of the US, 1900-2000

In our First Census (1790) there were only 24 “urban places” (2,500 or more); the largest, New York City, had 33,000 people; only five exceeded 10,000. We didn’t become 50% urban until the Census of 1920. During our “formative century” we were basically a rural nation. Many of our values, even though we live in cities, were hardened during that pre-urban period.

Early textbooks in Sociology were practically built around the “rural-urban continuum”, contrasting the newer urban-industrial life with all those agrarian centuries which preceded it. For all their differences, the work of most of the original thinkers in the field (Comte, Spencer, Durkheim, Marx, Weber) was largely an analysis of the dominance of cities in industrial society.

Things changed by the middle of the 20th century. By the 1950s most analysts believed that new technologies of transportation and communication had eliminated the old rural-urban differences. One article in the late ’50s identified a number of variables (e.g., percent male, family size, proportion over 65, intercounty mobility, proportion nonwhite, female participation in the labor force) which no longer showed consistent variation with size-of-place. By 1967 the prominent American demographer Ralph Thomlinson could write that “rural-urban differences are declining rapidly and threaten to vanish.”

Twenty-five years ago I did a study to test this assertion. Using data from the University Chicago’s National Opinion Research Center, I found very strong relationships between respondents’ size-of-place and their degree of tolerance shown toward homosexuality, pre-marital sex, extra-marital sex and pornography. I found even stronger relationships for size-of-place where the respondent grew up. If you’re interested, you can find the details of this study in the American Sociological Review, 1982, 47:411-5.

Which brings us back to the Democrats and 2008. I’m more convinced than ever that we need to begin thinking of ourselves, not as the “blue state” party, or even necessarily under the older “liberal” label (though what I’m saying here doesn’t conflict with that). I think, instead, it’s high time we identify with our Urban Base, in every state red or blue. We should aim to make ourselves the party of choice for every urban place in America.

Urbanites are tolerant (even accepting) of many of the things Republicans brag about hating. We are more tolerant of sexual differences. We do not hate religion, we tolerate all religions (and also the lack of same). We’re probably more willing to tax-and-spend (which is better than bankrupting future generations anyway) because in cities we see the payoff in myriad services every day. In fact, we should be demanding that our taxes be spent in our cities first, with what’s left over going to state and federal governments, still too heavily dominated by antique systems rural over-representation. We’re not un-American, as the GOP would have us, but our urban Fourth of July parades are far more likely include a gay or ethnic contingent in addition to our American Legionnaires and Catholic Youth Organization floats.

We are more connected with other cities of the world than we (or they) are with our romanticized but increasingly fictional rural pasts. Kenneth Boulding wrote a brilliant article, “The City as an element in the international system.” Daedalus, 97:1111-23 (1968). In it he argued that cities, once the refuge from warfare, had become the primary targets of it; he called for realigning our thoughts about cities in their global relations with each other, rather than allowing them to be dominated by out-of-date rural prejudices and policies. The attacks on New York and D.C. in 2001, and this week’s attack on London, add a frightening reality to Boulding’s prophetic essay.

Urbanites are the “real world” driving force in America today, and our numbers of rising all the time. The very word “civilized” derives from “civitas”, Latin for “city”. The Democratic Party should focus on cities, leave the stagnating hillbillies to the GOP, and sigh “good riddance”.

Amen Brother!

When will Democrat politico’s get their head out of their asses?

We are urban.
We are liberals.
We stand for opportunity.
We stand for choice.
We stand for equal rights.
We stand for religious liberty.
We stand for a sane defense.
We are the majority in this country.

Why are we wasting our time and energy chasing ma and pa kettle.
Just get our voters to the polls and make sure their votes are counted.
That is how you will win this country back.

  • That is an excellent profile. But, contrary to the above post; if we presume that we did all we could to get out the urban vote in 2004, we need to do much more work in the rural sections of our country. Maintain our base, but go after that “red” area!

  • It’s fascinating that the graph shows rural population being very close to constant at 50 million for a century. Assuming that they’ve been having babies and dying at about the same rate as the general population, there’s obviously a strong movement of people from the country to the city. Which ones? The young? The more intelligent? The more tolerant? It’s probably a combination, but whatever it may be, it’s a strong filter on the rural population. Evolution in action, baby. (Or maybe it’s guided by some higher-level intelligence.)

  • I’m from that blue streak bridging W. Wisconsin, E. Minnesota and Iowa. I’m happy to be a rare blue rural rep, but still think this analysis needs some work.

    If you can try to find the # of votes by county, or check the map you linked to above (“blue vote here”). Wisconsin was close, blue by ~15,000 votes for Kerry. The tendancy above is to blame farmers. But if you look closer, you will see more red votes in the Suburbs: the easiest is probably just west of the big blue spike of Milwaukee. Or find Denver’s blue spike, and look just south. Or the ring around Miami.

    The growth of suburbs parallels the growth of replublicans in swing states. I think (no data here, sorry) that suburbs tend to be more homogeneous (recent self-selection) and therefore less tolerant than cities or rural areas.

    To answer a question above, younger people tend to move out of the countryside, especially if they’ve been to college.

  • The distortion comes from area being equated with population, and a too simple color palate.

    Check out
    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/election/

    for a much more accurate depiction of the point you are trying to make. It shows the red/blue state to county, then does shades of purple, and then, most beautifully makes the US map into a cartogram where population relates to area on the map.

    A thing of beauty.

  • I agree w/ Blue Bagder, in the “blue states” that are red in between cities, that the deepest red counties are the suburbs and ex-burbs. But if you look at the farming counties of most states you will notice that the Kerry scored in the high fourties.

    The future of the democratic party is in those rural counties, we have to find a way to win rural voters over. I also think we need to look at very rural states like Vermont and Maine. Very rural states that voted overwhelmingly blue. Also ask about Montana and Colorado where on a local level blue candidates did well.

  • I’m well aware of the various purple-gradient and cartographic displays which popped up after the last election. My point here was not to argue the “best” way to display those results. It was rather to emphasize that the Democratic Party (blue, blue, and blue) needs to frame a vision for itself, to define itself in some way. That cannot be done by a “one size fits all”. We have to stand for something. I think everything we stand for, traditionally (except our alliance with the old Solid South), can be summarized in a focus on Cities.

    I’m also aware that much of our losses came in the suburban and exurban areas surrounding cities. But I don’t think that means our future is in rural counties, or that we should be spending much time or effort going after rural voters. Suburban voters’ lives, whether they like to admit it or not, revolve around their central cities, the “urbs”, where many of them make their living. Their “flight” was away from the costs and the problems of cities, but their well-being ultimately has much more to do with the well being of their cities than it does with their country cousins’ peculiar ideologies.

    I’m suggesting that the Democratic Party ought to focus on its Urban Base. Build outward from there to develop the suburbanites’ “urban consciousness” – i.e., organize the burbs from the cities. But quit figuring ways to waste our efforts in genuinely “red” counties. They will never change. Fortunately, they’ll never grow either.

    I don’t know how many times I’ve heard people say or write that the Democrats have no message, no vision, no clear identity. Or, if we do, that it’s something easy for hate-radio to attack: college professors, or the homeless, or tree huggers, or peaceniks,or labor organizers, or ethnics. Can’t we at least pick a side when it comes to urban vs. rural? The terms are neutral enough, yet they carry a lot more information than categories of residence: They identify overall points of view, weltanschaungen, and a host of specific, derivable policies and programs.

    I’m beginning to wonder if the Democratic Party, with its polls and focus groups and nervousness and delicacy, is capable of making choices any more. The graph suggests that this one wouldn’t even require much courage.

  • Certainly, the democrats should do everything to organize voters in cities and speak to and/or start fixing the problems in cities. I would also agree that the democratic party should do a stronger job of being “for” something, instead of being on the defensive all the time. Access to health care is an issue that is very big here. Perhaps cities can show a way to lead here. If something works, rural voters are pragmatists, will elect those who can bring it to them as well.

    My beef with the Stranger editorial is that it really demonizes rural voters, but there are not that many of us, and you can probably ignore us if you really want to (except for Senate races, gotta remember that you still have 2 senators per flyover state even if no one lives there.) Maybe the editorial will have the effect of focussing city democrats (good). Maybe it will have the effect of annoying rural voters (bad, but who will read it, and how many are there of us anyway? I guess you can weigh the relative damage of out-and-out vitriol versus a strategy of neglect) The thing I’m worried about is that a stereotype of dumb rural voters may distract from the strategic importance of the red suburb vote. And remember that suburbs *are* growing. The county map in W. Wisconsin is blue until you reach St. Croix Co at the northern end. St. Croix Co. is an ex-urb of the Minneapolis/St.Paul area. It went red last cycle, with a larger population that its previous blue (much more rural)cycle.

  • wasting our time and energy chasing ma and pa kettle

    I guess I’d better ‘fess up. Ten years ago I wrote a bunch of plot summaries for the then-new Internet Movie Database. Among them were summaries for all nine Ma and Pa Kettle movies

    Ma and Pa Kettle (1949)
    Ma and Pa Kettle Go to Town (1950)
    Ma and Pa Kettle Back on the Farm (1951)
    Ma and Pa Kettle at the Fair (1952)
    Ma and Pa Kettle on Vacation (1953)
    Ma and Pa Kettle at Home (1954)
    Ma and Pa Kettle at Waikiki (1955)
    The Kettles in the Ozarks (1956)
    The Kettles on Old MacDonald’s Farm(1957)

    Don’t get me started on Roy Rogers, Hopalong Cassidy, Gene Autry, etc.

    I probably also should have mentioned somewhere that I grew up in very, very “red” country: Paso Robles, now the focus of a major California wine-producing region, when I was a kid was all cattle and wheat, a tiny town close to … nothing. My dad used to joke that Democrats dared to come out only at night. I’m not as hostile to hillbillies as I may come across — I just don’t think Democrats are going to make any headway there. And they don’t need to.

  • My state is not as liberal as it’s cracked up to be, but it’s thoroughly blue. It is hard to say what the Democratic party stands for in Massachusetts, since pretty much everybody who isn’t rich is a Dem. You get seriously socially conservative Dems and tolerant liberals.

    Maine is interesting to me, because a lot of the rural areas are pretty democratic.

    My experience has been, and it’s not scientific, is that it’s easier to connect urban concerns to the old suburbs–the ones accessible by train, and that the gulf between rural dwellers and cities is not so bad. Residents of the inner city have problems with access to healthcare as do rural residents. The problem is with those damn exurbanites.

  • blue badger,

    Very well said. I want to expand a little on your statement that “If something works, rural voters are pragmatists….”

    I have always been impressed with something of which very few urbanites are even aware, the role played, ever since the New Deal, by the Agricultural Experiment Stations and the complementary national system of County Extension Agents.

    I don’t know how it works now, but it used to be that if any three farmers/ranchers had the same problem (this was to prevent the government from doing work for one big guy) they could ask the Ag Station to do research on it. If researchers there found some solutions, the results would be distributed through the Extension service (which had an agent in nearly every county) so that everyone could benefit. This involved huge problems like multi-county irrigation systems, but also myriad small ones, down to how to teach home-canners how to pickle vegetables without inducing food poisoning.

    I’ve often wondered by we don’t apply this same practically to “urban problems”, and on a truly vast scale. Government problems, planning problems, health problems, taxation problems, gang/delinquency problems, water treatment problems, security problems … whatever. There ought to be a massive research effort directed to evaluating alternative attempts at reducing such problems in specific locations, and a system to promote rapid, nationwide adoption (or further testing) of such solutions.

    The method completely transformed US agriculture in the 20th century. Why not apply that same system/effort to our cities? Right now it would be far easier for me to find out how many chickens were laying eggs, nationwide, than it would be for me to find out how many kids dropped out of school in my county last year. That just doesn’t seem right.

  • Writing off entire sections of the country is the exact reason why Democrats keep losing elections. That article seems to suggest that because the majority of progressives live in cities and that means that the entire thrust of the Democratic party’s message should be aimed at urban dwellers. This ignores the fact that that is the approach that both John Kerry and Al Gore took in the previous two elections, with less than stellar results. The last successful Democratic candidate for president was Bill Clinton. A man who was able to make the case to rural America that it is in their interest to support our party. I bring up this oft used example to make the point that it is not impossible to bridge the gap between urban sensibilities and rural values. We can do it by standing up for true American values like opportunity and the right to privacy. These are issues that resonate all across America.

    This country is an exceptional one. Throughout the course of its history there have been occasions were we have strayed from the path of our better angels. The examples of our treatment of Native Americans and slavery immediately come to mind. But in the end this is a country that more often than not gets it right. Yes we live in an age of encroaching moral darkness. Yes George W. Bush is anathema to everything we stand for. But our salvation won’t come from perpetuating our divisions. It won’t come by dividing people along arbitrary battle lines. Leave that to the other side. We have to be the ones preaching inclusion, solidarity. That is what the liberal message is about. It is about a shared sense of destiny. The approach advocated in that article is the same impulse that we see from the other side. “As long I provided for myself and people like me then I have fufilled my responsibilities.” That is not what we believe in. At one point the author of that article even suggested that we should “Embrace Self-Interest.” What is liberalism if not the notion that we are our brother’s keeper, we are our sister’s keeper, that the national interest comes before narrow self-interst?

    That article was hateful, hypocritical and naive. But worse than all of those things, it was wrong. That is not the way to win elections and its certainly not the way to heal this country.

  • If you are well aware of the purple cartographic depictions of the electoral results, why not consider, then the implications that we are a much more nuanced population than the simple red/blue, urban/rural divisions you make? Voters are not really single issue driven in most cases, and make a more complex choices that balance competing ideas. The problem (a problem) with the Democratic Party is that it says something, then takes it back in the next sentence. The Democratic Party may be blue, blue, and blue, as you say, but individual Democrats are not.

    Enlightened self interest should be the drumbeat. Universal healthcare is good for everyone, a clean environment is good for everyone, international family planning, aid, and education lifts all boats…..

  • I read that Stranger article shortly after the election and thought it was excellent from a descriptive sense. Urban living certainly fosters higher tolerance for “activist” and more expensive government: the society is more complicated and requires both more service (sanitation, transit) and regulation (cops). My local taxes here in NYC are high, but I don’t really mind because I see what they’re going for, and I support those things. This experience, in turn, informs the progressive worldview that “we’re all in this together”; it also really privileges the “competence, not ideology” idea, which explains how moderate-enough Republicans like Giuliani and Riordan can win mayoral races: many generally Dem-leaning voters rather have a seemingly competent dick like Rudy than a well-meaning, inept, special-pleader simp like Ruth Messinger or (though he was a great guy personally) Dinkins. I never voted for Rudy–he was just too much of a dick for me–but I’m very likely to vote for the much less personally offensive Bloomberg this fall.

    But from a prescriptive standpoint, the article sort of leads to the conclusion (and, IIRC, semi-facetiously just comes out and says) that the urban areas should secede. Our priorities and worldview both are just too different from those of exurban and rural voters, who exhibit a worldview directly opposite to “we’re all in this together.”

    I’m not quite there yet, but if things don’t turn around in the next two elections, I might be, and I doubt I’d be alone. The kicker is that “our” (by which I mean “Blue America”) tax dollars are subsidizing their selfishness–just do a Google search for the states that get most and least back in government dollars for the federal taxes they pay. Congress continues to devote more time and energy to farm subsidies than low-income housing, and it’s a lot easier politically to build highways than support transit infrastructure.

    If we in the cities could ever figure out how to translate our economic importance into political influence, the country would look and feel much. Unfortunately the deck seems stacked against us, particularly as suburban voters (outside a few NE communities like my hometown of Philadelphia) stay in the Republican camp.

  • You also forgot one factor that all Dem thinkers leave out. Almost all blacks live in urban areas. That accounts for both the tolerance aspect and the large “blue” concentration. I am actually shocked that someone would mention homosexuals and not blacks as part of the Dem city voting base. The cultural elite liberals are portrayed (often correctly) by the right as taking the black vote for granted an this is a prime example. THe best example though is the 2004 elections. WHile the rest of the country was experiencing record turnouts, majority black Dade County (miami) in Florida experienced significantly reduced turnout from 2000. IN 2000, Dade COunty went 60% for Gore. In 2004, Kerry barely got 50%. This provided the margin of victory for Bush and Mel Martinez. And why was turnout so low? Because Kerry almost never went there, focused no turnout effort on blacks generally, or on Southern Florida. They had a failed strategy of only targeting the swing area of the I-4 corridor (which they won), while ignoring the base in SOuthern Florida(the Dem stronghold). If anyone wants to refute why Kerry lost the election as being anything else, I was on the ground working in the Senate race in Florida and saw it all unfold. Kerry lost it for himself and for Betty Castor. I would absolutely not blame conservative blacks if they begin fleeing the party. The only salient black issue that is not an issue for all Americans is affirmative action and successful and conservative blacks are not very supportive of aff action anyway. Education, health care,jobs, etc are the main issues for blacks as a whole, but their important issue profiles are overall not significantly different from whites of similar financial straits. i.e. black and white poor americans are very similar, middle blacks and whites are very similar. THis will only increase as time goes on. How does Ed’s advice help the Dems establish a governing majority win they lose 50% of their urban base as time goes on. Realignment is a bitch

  • Once again, two-value classification leads to invalid conclusions. The distinction between urban and rural once made sense; no more. As implied by a couple of previous posts, the suburbs are where the elections are being won and lost. And the suburbs are full of people who moved there to get away from what they saw as the problems of the cities. (Except me, of course. I grew up in a small California farming community which transformed around me into a suburb.) Re-draw those maps to split our suburban counties, and what that pops out at you.

    The party that wants to win elections will have to show those people that they understand THEIR concerns. Not just urban concerns. Not just rural concerns. Suburban concerns. I’ve got my own ideas what those are, but some actual research would be more to the point.

  • Thanks, Ed, for a very good piece. The Dems already know how to win the urban vote. I wish Lymie and others were correct, but it’s not that simple. Obviously, their urban base is not sufficient to win back the Congress or the presidency. Democrats who win in rural areas should provide strategic and tactical lessons on how to win enough (not all of the) red areas to tilt the balance. An excellent article on this subject by American studies professor and former Congressman Glen Browder can be found at Donkey Rising: The Emerging Democratic Majority. The link is http://www.emergingdemocraticmajorityweblog.com/browder/

    One of his basic arguments is that for Southern and rural voters perceived stands on social issues will always trump economic self-interest. It’s a well-reasoned analysis of what the Democrats must do to avoid becoming an entrenched minority and includes some excellent references and citations.

  • I posted a response to this post at my blog earlier today. I must say I disagree very strongly, both on the assumptions behind this post, and on the strategy. The dismissive, insulting stereotyping of non-urban voters in “The Urban Achipelago” article that you refer to, also troubles me, and not just because I am a non-urban voter in a red state. (I originally read that article many months ago and found it nauseating in ways that earlier commenter JCarl addressed in comment #12.)

    The Census uses areas of at least 2,500 people as their definition for “urban.” I don’t think that’s what you are referring to when you talk of “cities”. Suburban and exurban are thus all thrown in with “urban” in the Census data, leading to a misleading ratio of urban versus non-urban voters. Big city voters are a small fraction of the electorate, and we already win with them. If we want to win, we need to find other votes as well.

  • When I saw the little blue spot in Idaho, I immediately thought it was me, but upon closer
    inspection I noticed it’s not where I live. Evidently, there’s another progressive in Idaho.
    I live in a relatively dense population area, so
    my blue speck would take a magnifying glass to
    see.

    Kidding aside, I think the demography is interesting,
    but doesn’t show the way out. Democrats have done
    an abominable job in presenting their agenda, and
    Republicans, particularly the radical right, have
    been unprecedentedly successful. They have persuaded the tens of millions of angry white men
    that liberals are the cause of all their problems –
    with some blacks and gays and immigrants and
    educated people thrown in the deal. Furthermore,
    they’ve managed to equate liberal with commie,
    liberal with atheist, liberal with cowardice,
    and liberal with every other awful thing under
    the sun.

    So much so that mainstream Democrats have given
    up. They not only won’t promote their ideals,
    they shrink from them now. Disavow them.
    Democrats have no agenda at all, except to wait
    for Republicans to announce theirs, then to
    squeak out apologetically, “Over here, we’re not
    quite so radical on those issues, we’re two inches
    to the (opposite of right – can’t say “left” anymore. Bad word).

    What’s so utterly frustrating is that it’s not a
    matter anymore of reaching the undecideds, it’s a
    matter of reaching the Democrats!

  • Here’s all you really need to read in that article to understand the author’s motivations and beliefs:
    “And we are the real Americans. They–rural, red-state voters, the denizens of the exurbs–are not real Americans. They are rubes, fools, and hate-mongers. ”

    Yeah…THAT’s how you win over people to your side alright.

  • A few thoughts:

    1. As long as we maintain an electoral system for counting votes, the rural areas will be able to counter-balance the over-populated urban areas of this nation at the polls in any national election. The framers understood the consequences of this and that’s the way it should be. It prevents the majority from over-running the minority.

    2. Because of (1), Dems need to follow Clinton’s example and run on values-issues, *as well as* their core beliefs. This will require actually branding themselves clearly and realizing what both the urban and rural areas of this nation have in common (it’s a lot more than you think). Fancy packaging goes along ways towards getting your customers’ attention.

    3. Remember, if Ross Perot did not run in ’92, Clinton would never have been elected – Perot split the Republican vote. He won in ’96 because of a combination of his values-voter appeal and because Bob Dole was not all that inspiring to anyone.

    4. Don’t be fooled into thinking that the urbanite Democratic base is going to stay that way. It seems to me that there are more and more families that live almost their entire existence cut-off from the very city that they live within, thanks to changes in the way we interact with the world around us. The computer revolution continues to make its impact on how much time our children interact with one another and the ways in which we experience the world around us, work, etc. Many people living in the suburbs are more isolated than they were 50 years ago, living in small, rural towns.

  • I live in the red part of a blue state… but there are many Dems here and across the red parts of the state, just as there are many Repubs in the blue parts. The Dems must NOT cede rural areas to the Repubs. If Dems stressed their core values, which are America’s core values, decent jobs, health care, good education, social security, etc. etc., they would get more votes in “red” areas. As it is now, who knows what the Dems stand for – at least that’s the thinking of Joe Sixpack. JMHO.

  • This article is not seeing the trees in the forest.

    The central voting trends that enabled BUSH to defeat KERRY (other than the fact the Democrats ran a simpering cowardly campaign), were 1) the rise of an eduation gap, and 2) the closing of the gender gap.

    Simply put, lesser eduated unmarried mothers and single women put BUSH in the White House and the non college educated class kept the GOP in power in 2004.

    The above article is not looking deeply enough into the electorate. The urban v. rural dichotomy did not change in 2004. What changed is that the uneducated motivated by religion & patriotism swung strongly toward BUSH and the coup de grace for the Democrats hopes in 2004 was the swing of single mothers toward the GOP due to security concerns in a time of uncertainity. Single mothers did not realign to the GOP mind you, but for that one election these women, often in precarious siutations personally swung their support toward the party that promised 1) strength and stability 2) that promoted itself as superior on defense issues. In the face of KERRYs “I voted against the war, then for it” stance BUSH came accross as the rock of Gibralter.

    But single women and the educated are more urban and less rural and that is why the above analysis on the surface appears sounds, but ultimately provides little in the way of in depth analysis in understanding the electorate.

    james wall

  • Look, this article is emblamatic of the total intellectual failure of the Democratic Party.

    True Urban demographics are ugly; most major cities and particularly Democratic ones are losing populations, depending on immigrants to keep the numbers up. Once the immigrants achieve economic success, they move.

    To the SUBURBS. Which are Republican by a small but constantly growing margin.

    Forget values, it’s economics.

    Families cannot afford to live in major cities; San Francisco for example has almost no children save that of immigrants. Land is very expensive, rents are high, ownership even more expensive, and schools except for the most exclusive generally poor, crowded and violent.

    If you are a twenty something hipster, or childless couple, Cities make sense because they offer large cultural opportunities in exchange for horrifically expensive living conditions. For everyone else suburbs are a better buy because you get a yard, more living space, and far less crime. Cultural opinion makers loathe the suburbs and this obscures the basic economic fact that they are the best buy for living space.

    Consider a house offering say 3,000 square feet in Dallas suburb, which might run around $200,000. Compare to a townhouse for sale in San Francisco that offers 900 square feet for $750,000.

    When you own your own home, that has a comparitively low purchase price but is matched with lower wages, you still get a better living situation, as long as taxes are low. Low taxes make sense in the suburbs because it increases available money to the homeowner and as long as basic police, fire, and medical, schools, and roads are concerned there’s not much left that adds value. Suburbs by their nature require private autos not mass transit (which gets flipped obvious in urban areas).

    Conclusion? The Dem Party is falling off the cliff. No one has a frickin clue that suburbanites (read: families of all races and creeds) find the Party extremely hostile to their basic economic interests (home ownership, car ownership, low crime rates, good suburban schools, access to higher education) while favoring tragically hip urbanites who are shrinking not growing.

    But hey, keep right on following the leader over the cliff.

  • The US Constitution gives significant additional power to rural and underpopulated areas than it does to urban and heavily populated areas.

    If Democrats continue to lose rural voters by 65% to 35%, we will be the minority party even if we win 100% of urban voters.

    Think about the House.

    In 2000, Gore beat Bush by half a million votes, but despite the Democrats winning a majority Bush beat Gore in 47 more Congressional districts.

    That’s not because of gerrymandering shenanigans.  That’s because Democratic voters tend to be clumped in urban areas.

    Think about the Senate.

    In the three elections cycles that form the make-up of the current Senate, the Democrats won 48.4% of the vote while the Republicans won 46.8% of the vote.

    But despite the Democrats winning a majority, the Republicans won a 55 – 45 Senate margin.

    Bush carried 31 of 50 states in 2004. Think about what this means for the Senate.

    The words of the Constitution compel us to compete geographically, not just numerically.

    See this article by Steven Hill for more detail.

  • “See this article by Steven Hill for more detail.”

    Great.
    So basically according to this and other articles, the Left’s answer to winning elections is to change the system the country’s had in place for over 200 years. Okay…
    In other words, don’t change your message into one that anyone actually agrees with, but rather “change the rules” so you can win.
    M. Redden
    Wilmington, NC

  • That’s the whole point, Mike. It’s not a tactical
    failure on the part of the Democrats. It’s
    fundamental. They have lost their way. They
    represent no one anymore. They have no platform,
    no agenda, no vision, and it keeps on getting
    worse.

  • Maybe I’m just picking nits, but the putative pattern isn’t really reflected in southern California, Arizona, and New Mexico. There’s one or more additional factors driving the results, and maybe identifying those factors could be helpful.

    Contrary to the text, San Diego is red (southernmost county on the coast; I’m from there, Republicans have controlled local politics forever). It’s Imperial County (next county inland along the border) that’s blue. El Centro / Brawley / Holtville / Calexico may be a sprawl, but the county is very agricultural (& relatively poor). Note the north coast counties are blue: Arcata & Eureka aren’t _that_ big of urban areas. Also, the eastern Sierra counties around Tahoe are blue (are there that many progressives flowing out of the bay area?).

    In Arizona, Tucson is blue, as is Flagstaff (univeristy/railroad/mining/logging/tourism town), but Phoenix is red.

    In New Mexico, Albuqureque is blue, but Los Cruces is red (other maps have it blue); most of that blue is pretty rural.

    Even Utah doesn’t split out so cleanly on the map you show (other maps have all counties red): SLC & perhaps Ogden are blue, Utah County (Provo) is red, but Carbon & Emory counties in the east-center and Iron & Kane in the SW are pretty rural.

    Further east, a number of large urban areas are red. In Texas, El Paso, San Antonio, & it looks like Austin are blue, but DFW, Houston, etc., are red. As the previous poster noted in FL, Orlando & Tampa/St.Pete are red, while Miami-Dade, Broward (Ft. Lauderdale), & Palm Beach in the SE are blue. Can the I4 corridor (Tampa – Orlando) really have more suburban sprawl than Broward?

    What’s with the belt of blue across Alabama, roughly along the fall-line?

    Again, I’m not questioning the general urban v. suburban exurban and some rural distinction, I’m asking for what else is going on.

  • I see that a lot of commenters found the linked article offensive to rural people, treating them as “not real Americans”. That’s a legitimate complaint, but it’s far more often the case that the bigotry is going in the other direction.

    Republicans, the media, and plenty of Democrats are constantly talking about rural folks from “the heartland” as being real Americans, while urbanites, especially those on the coasts, are something else, no matter how many of us there are. In fact, the quoted part of the article has a bit of that feel, when it talks about how “but for the cities” these these would be totally Republican, as if the city voters are some weird anomaly distracting us from the true, area-based way of looking at things.

    I’ve heard that formulation plenty of times before: “but for the black vote, this area would have gone Republican”, “but for the Indian reservations, the South Dakota vote would have gone differently”, and so on. Well, blacks, Indians, and even urbanites are real people whose votes and interests are every bit as legitimate as those of farmers, truckers, Nascar fans, and whoever else has somehow been erroneously categorized as the only real Americans.

  • Perhaps a voice of the Democrats (Former President Bill Cinton) frames it best in a recent speech:

    “But beyond that, the Democratic Party wasn’t able to reach out to much of rural America even though it increased voter registration and participation among groups that had previously shied from the polls.

    Kerry won Cleveland by a huge margin but lost Ohio, Clinton noted.

    “My advice is, get on a bus and go to rural Ohio.

    “You can’t win an election in this country unless you talk to people who you think aren’t for you,” Clinton said. “A person who wants to be president has to be at home with issues and people when he knows he’s on the losing side.”

    Well said.

  • That “stretch of blue” in Alabama — which actually starts in Mississippi, staggers through Georgia, and continues up into the Carolinas and into southern Virginia — is the remnant of the old “Black Belt”, named not for the population but for the soil, the epicenter of sharecopper and tenant farming agriculture in the late 19th and early 20th century. Mostly it was historically cotton country (in N.C. and Va. tobacco too). These counties, while they had and still have some poor whites, are heavily African-American. My guess would be that every blue county in that stretch — and certainly the rural ones — are majority African-American or close to it.

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