It’s tough to keep up with all the encouraging news

Let me see if I have all the good news straight. When Sunnis attack Shi’a, we should consider it encouraging.

Q: Let me follow on that, because I think some American officials have called [the attack on the Askariya shrine in Samarra] an act of desperation. And I’m wondering how this is seen as an act of desperation. Does that mean that the terrorists are so concerned that they’re sort of being shut down, and that the surge is so effective that they’re now desperate to make a statement?

SNOW: …It does fit a pattern that we see throughout the region, which is that when you see things moving towards success, or when you see signs of success, that there are acts of violence.

When we help Sunnis attack other Sunnis, that, too, is encouraging.

With the four-month-old increase in American troops showing only modest success in curbing insurgent attacks, American commanders are turning to another strategy that they acknowledge is fraught with risk: arming Sunni Arab groups that have promised to fight militants linked with Al Qaeda who have been their allies in the past.

American commanders say they have successfully tested the strategy in Anbar Province west of Baghdad and have held talks with Sunni groups in at least four areas of central and north-central Iraq where the insurgency has been strong. In some cases, the American commanders say, the Sunni groups are suspected of involvement in past attacks on American troops or of having links to such groups. Some of these groups, they say, have been provided, usually through Iraqi military units allied with the Americans, with arms, ammunition, cash, fuel and supplies…. [T]he American engagement with the Sunni groups has brought some early successes against Al Qaeda, particularly in Anbar.

And when Sunni and Shi’a are attacking Americans, that, too, is encouraging.

Need proof that the “surge” is working? Gen. David Petraeus has this to offer: The bad guys are starting to kill Americans rather than Iraqis.

On “Fox News Sunday” yesterday, Chris Wallace asked Petraeus about last week’s Pentagon report on Iraq — the one that said that the “overall level of violence” remained unchanged during the first several months of the “surge.”

“General,” Wallace asked, “why shouldn’t we back home view that as disappointing?”

Petraeus’ response: “Well, the aggregate level is about the same. We actually have borne the brunt of much more of that, as have Iraqi security forces, and civilians a good bit less.

“In fact, one of the metrics that we track, which is sectarian murders and executions in Baghdad, went down … by the end of April, it was down to about a third of where it was back in January.

“It did come back up as we announced in the month of May a little less than half. That is trending back down again.

“The fact is that as we go on the offensive, the enemy is going to respond. That is what has happened. Car bombs have been coming steadily down. And as I mentioned, sectarian executions in Baghdad in particular have come down.”

If I didn’t know better, I might think that no matter what happens on the ground in Iraq, war supporters in the administration are going to tell us that it’s an encouraging sign.

Tony Snow says “when you see things moving towards success, or when you see signs of success, that there are acts of violence.” He must definitely be seeing things as we’ve seen buttloads of violence but success, not so much.

  • Yes, it is always encouraging when more Americans are being killed….. to the enemy, to Al Quaeda. etc….. it should never be encouraging to a friggin US General! Perhaps Grant and Lee found it encouraging when more Americans were killed on the feild of battle, but I would sincerelly hope that was the last time an American general felt that.

    If I didn’t know better, I might think that no matter what happens on the ground in Iraq, war supporters in the administration are going to tell us that it’s an encouraging sign.

    They are indeed making their own realities.

  • which is that when you see things moving towards success, or when you see signs of success, that there are acts of violence.

    What a weasel lie. Violence goes up when things are going badly too.

    Bush is arguing with all these false metrics and people are buying into. It’s a lot like how movies are judged by their box office receipts. It’s a phoney way to look at things. Keeps the MSM busy keeping score though.

  • Violence goes up when things are going badly too.

    Dale, what do you mean “too?”

    Violence does not go up when things are going well. Things are not going well in Iraq. Things are going badly. The violence is not a sign of success. The violence is a sign of failure.

    Tony Snow is a liar. Don’t let an ounce of his bullshit seep into your brain.

  • Suggestion to our press corpse: Since follow up questions are a waste of time, when given answers like this, just laugh in their faces. Laugh out loud – really loud.

  • Foreign Policy Magazine has just published its 2007 list of failed states. Iraq is second, behind Sudan. Afghanistan came in at eighth.

    A few more months of such success and the ground will be so enriched with blood and corpses that the remaining Iraqis will be able to grow melons in Winter.

  • The violence is a sign of the U.S. Military Occupation of Iraq. Will the Iraqi’s or al Qaeda in Iraq ever submit? I’m sure our Reich Wing corporate government is going to find out for us over the next 50-odd years.

    Success is putting an end to all the senseless butchery by ending the occupation. I know it’s a tough concept for neocon mouth-foamers to understand, but success is putting American security above Iraqi security.

  • Actually they won’t be growing melons in the blood soaked fields. They’ll grow poppies and make more money.

  • By now, after all the previous spin, it should be obvious that this Administration will never admit to failure no matter what happens. If the insurgents nuked the place it would somehow come back as “encouraging”. Bush is too committed with his huge base to accept that things are not going to work out as he planned. The only way out of Iraq is to force Bush and the neocons out by funding only a withdrawal. It’s always been the only way out. Bush never planned on withdrawing. Maybe some troops but never a complete withdrawal…ever.

  • It’s good that we don’t have a situation in which no one is attacking no one, because that would be so discouraging.

    For the warmongers.

  • beep52, @17

    Not yet, but soon. Here’s a bit from TP:

    “The Pentagon will announce this week that Geoff Morrell, previously a White House correspondent for ABC News, has been hired as the Defense Department’s on-camera briefer… Morrell, 38, will become a familiar face of the administration on television and the Web. The official said that a working journalist was chosen by Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates in an effort to improve press relations at a time when the administration is under pressure to show progress in Iraq.” 10:20 pm

  • Comments are closed.