Jindal’s VP ambitions continue to pick up supporters

The latest to join the far-right chorus of Republicans who want Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal (R) to be John McCain’s running mate is Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, who said yesterday that Jindal “would be far and away the best candidate.”

Gingrich, who appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” heaped praise upon the former congressman, saying that he is a “spectacular” governor and predicted that Jindal would be a presidential candidate in the future. […]

Asked whether it could be a problem that the governor, who is 37, might be perceived as not ready to lead the country in case he would have to replace McCain, Gingrich said the case can be made that Jindal’s “experience in the executive branch and in the legislative branch is greater than” that of Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama (Ill.).

“It strikes me that it’s going to be very hard for Obama’s campaign to explain that Jindal, as a governor, who has served as an assistant secretary of Health and Human Services, has served as a congressional staffer, has served as a congressman, is not qualified but Sen. Obama is qualified,” Gingrich said.

For what it’s worth, I actually hope McCain does pick Jindal, so if the McCain campaign takes Gingrich’s advice, I’d be delighted. That said, some of what Gingrich said deserves a closer look.

First, the former House Speaker said Jindal is a “spectacular” governor. That seems like a bit of a stretch — Jindal’s been on the job for literally six months. It’s tough for anyone to qualify as a “spectacular” governor when they probably haven’t fully finished unpacking.

Second, I’m not sure how Gingrich sees similarities in Jindal’s and Obama’s political backgrounds. Jindal has held elected office for less than four years (three in the U.S. House, six months as governor). Gingrich counts Jindal’s works as a staffer on the Hill as part of his qualifications for national office. With all due respect to my many friends working as congressional staffers, I’m not sure Hill work prepares someone to be one heartbeat from the presidency.

But Jindal’s profile is nevertheless on the rise. He shared a few insights of his own yesterday, after Gingrich sang his praises.

For example, Jindal explained his support for teaching intelligent-design creationism in public school science classrooms.

“As a parent, when my kids go to schools, when they go to public schools, I want them to be presented with the best thinking. I want them to be able to make decisions for themselves. I want them to see the best data. I personally think that the life, human life and the world we live in wasn’t created accidentally. I do think that there’s a creator. I’m a Christian. I do think that God played a role in creating not only earth, but mankind. Now, the way that he did it, I’d certainly want my kids to be exposed to the very best science.

“I don’t want them to be — I don’t want any facts or theories or explanations to be withheld from them because of political correctness. The way we’re going to have smart, intelligent kids is exposing them to the very best science and let them not only decide, but also let them contribute to that body of knowledge.”

As reality goes, this is pretty out there. If a school limits science classes to science, it’s “political correctness”? Seriously? Educators should let students “decide” for themselves whether they embrace or reject the science curriculum? I wonder how that’ll work, exactly — “Susie, some people believe the earth orbits the sun. Some people don’t. We’ll devote class-time to both, and it’ll be your call.”

Jindal added, “Some want only to teach intelligent design, some only want to teach evolution. I think both views are wrong.” These are not the words of someone who deserves to be taken seriously.

It’s not quite as entertaining as Jindal’s thoughts on exorcisms, of course, but it does help paint a picture of the kind of conservative we’re talking about here.

These are not the words of someone who deserves to be taken seriously.

Which is why the Republicans take him seriously;>

  • It’s not quite as entertaining as Jindal’s thoughts on exorcisms, of course, but it does help paint a picture of the kind of conservative we’re talking about here.

    Personally, I think it may take an exorcist to force Cheney into retirement and banish his psychic stench from the Number On Observatory Circle.

  • The only thing that would be better for the Dems than Jindal is the Sarah Palin rumors.

    It totally takes the experience issue away.

    Palin would be even better, She’s got two years as Gov of Alaska, before that she was mayor of Wasilla Alaska (population 6000).

  • Educators should let students “decide” for themselves whether they embrace or reject the science curriculum?

    When exactly did conservatives steal the hippie-dippie attitude about schooling from the far left? “Empower yourselves and discover your seats, children!”

    But yes, if McCain wants to pick an inexperienced right-wing exorcist nutjob as his VP, then terrific.

  • So apparantly in Jindal’s world a student can say “I don’t accept that 2+2=4!”

  • You guys seem to have missed the big one (so far).

    The racists who refuse to vote for a black man will be almost equally turned off by an Indian fellow, even if he claims to be a Christian (who knows, maybe he’s a secret Hindu, right?) And if you don’t think there’s a significant racist component of the GOP, you might want to review the racist attacks Rove pulled on McCain in 2000.

    Please, McDumbass, forget your party is the last remaining haven of racist scumbags, and pick the brown guy.

  • Like SteveT said, I think that the exorcism angle would be a saving grace if, God forbid, McCain actually gets elected. I can think of quite a few chunks of the Executive Branch that would benefit from an exorcism.

    The VP residence, obviously. Then let’s move on to the Justice Department. Karl Rove’s old office? Definitely. I could probably go on all day.

    I hate to say it, but Newt is probably right. Jindal may be the best that the Republicans have to offer.

  • So if exorcisms can cure skin cancer, why didn’t Gov. Bobby create an exorcism department within the NIH, while he was “assistant secretary of Health and Human Services”?

  • Oh by the way, the Gov. is no nutjob – he’s yet another politician who knows EXACTLY how to pander and win uneducated Southern christian votes.

  • The racists who refuse to vote for a black man will be almost equally turned off by an Indian fellow, even if he claims to be a Christian (who knows, maybe he’s a secret Hindu, right?)

    You’re giving the average sheet-draped yahoo way too much credit if you expect them to reflect on his religion. They’ll take one look at Jindal and assume he’s Osama bin Laden’s baby brother.

    I hate to say it, but if the GOP does go with him (or any other non-Euro) it will be to use him to deflect the charges of racism. “Just because we called Senator Obama a gangsta who wants to eat white babies does not mean we’re racist. Look, we’ve got a brown guy too!”

    Hey, it worked when they tapped Alan Keyes to run for the Senate seat in … Oh wait.

  • McCain/Jindal – Old White Haired Guy with Field Officer experience (or whatever th Navy calls 04-06) and scary brown Guy with weird religious beliefs (creationist loon)

    Obama/Clark (just for fun) – Scary black Guy with weird religious friends (Reverand Wright and Father Misogynst) and old White haired Guy with General Officer experience

    Actually, I think our guys would look a lot better in the end.

  • Jindal said “..— I don’t want any facts or theories or explanations to be withheld from [them] kids because of political correctness. ..” I’d love to test him on that by teaching evolution in the context of karma and reincarnation. It’s a seriously interesting convergence of truths, but would he campaign to support my freedom to do so?

  • axt113: “So apparantly in Jindal’s world a student can say ‘I don’t accept that 2+2=4!'”

    In a sense, we do want students to be able to say this (in fact, it is no trivial exercise to prove this statement from first principles). What we do not want, is for students and teachers to be able to ignore rigorous proofs, because they “personally believe” something else, which is what Hon. Gov. Jindal is advocating.

  • @14: I agree. Unlike McCain, Gen. Clark didn’t wreck 5 planes and an aircraft carrier (Forrestal).

    Louisiana certainly crapped out another winner, along with Rove.

  • I’m hoping for Jindal. Maybe he can perform an Exorcism on Ann Colter, Bob Dole, Jeb Miller and Joe LIEberman. Darth Cheney can preside. What fun.

  • Jindal can’t send his kids to Catholic school–parents don’t get to whine and complain about what is taught in private schools, and Catholic schools actually teach evolution.

    We live in Georgia and have long understood that if we want our kids to learn biology without disclaimers, they’d need a Catholic school education. Go figure.

  • if these asshats want equal time in the classroom for their stupid beliefs to be taught as a possible fact, then I want ti be able to preach Darwinism in each and every one of their houses of worship, or else they lose their tax-exempt status.

    Oh, THAT will never happen. That’s cuh RAY zee! But teaching fairy tales as science? Not thing one wrong with that.

  • I posted this a few weeks ago, but Jindal apparently doesn’t believe in democracy in action either. In his first speech in the House in Jan 2005, he complained about the fact that Stephanie Tubbs Jones and Barbara Boxer were protesting the seating of Ohio’s presidential electors for Bush, since there was considerable evidence of fraud and voter disenfranchisement (think: Kenneth Blackwell was the Secy of State). This action was permitted and in this case warranted. But Bobby Jindal was bitter that his first floor speech would not be a joyous one “I got elected! I got elected!”.

    Too flippin’ bad Bobby.

  • I taught my daughter that the Magna Carta was one of the greatest documents ever created, but she prefers to think it was the work of aliens attempting to subvert our system of order so they can more easily defeat us as we slowly sink into anarachy, a process that will be completed next year as Alien Obama cancels the Constitution and announces that all laws are null and void, a power she is convinced the President has; and I respect that. It’s her choice. I’d never do the politically correct thing by telling her what to believe.

    Oh, and she also believes that if she can’t tase random people at the mall, the aliens win, and I think she’s intelligent enough to make that choice. It’s all about letting kids do their own thing and I, as a parent, have no say in any of this whatsoever. Thus said, we can’t let teens make their own decisions about having abortions, as they’re much too stupid to choose wisely. They might be smart enough to understand science better than the scientists and to be parents, but they’re not smart enough to choose to be parents. That decision can only be made by me. Everything else is fair game.

  • Bobby Jindal is nuttier than a squirrel turd. I would love McCain to pick him. If Jindal isn’t proof that the GOP is so completely in bed with the religious right I don’t know what will. I’m not a repub, and thank god for that, sorry about the little “g” repubs, but if I was I would be absolutely furious that I let a minority sect like the christian right essentially hijack the party of Lincoln.

  • working as congressional staffers, I’m not sure Hill work prepares someone to be one heartbeat from the presidency.

    Yes, please choose this whackjob for veep contendah.

    Ya know Russert was staffer. Lucky he wasn’t a heartbeat from the presidency.

  • Goldilocks @ 15: I’d love to test him on that by teaching evolution in the context of karma and reincarnation. It’s a seriously interesting convergence of truths

    Careful about criticizing Jindal for nutjobbery when describing reincarnation as “truth.” I’m just sayin’…

  • Ohioan said:

    So if exorcisms can cure skin cancer,

    Aha! See the connection? McCain has skin cancer. Jindal CURES skin cancer.

  • If McCain announced he’d picked Jindal today, it would be the best birthday present I could imagine getting. What McCain, with his usual clueness about things religious, fails to realize is that Jindal’s positions are not merely extreme politically, but religiously as well, and that he would drive tons of Catholics away.

    He’s a creationist — and Catholics accept evolution — and have since I was a kid going to Catholic schools.

    He took part in a totally unacceptable exorcism — which, I think, could have gotten him excommunicated merely for doing so. (Exorcisms aren’t done by laymen, but only by certain priests who at least attempt to rule out other problems such as schizophrenia before they act.) And “Susan’s” cry “Jesus is Lord” after it was done is an echo of Protestant beliefs, not Catholic ones.

    He opposes the Vatican II reforms that most Catholics welcomed.

    He demands ‘strict obedience’ to the doctrines of Catholicism, but most American Catholics differ with their Church on abortion, contraception, women priests, etc.

    And he still maintains the ‘outside the Church there is no salvation position’ and has done this in his writing. Most Catholics no longer accept this, and for Protestants it is the inverse of Hagee’s ‘great whore’ position on Catholicism — if not expressed as colorfully.

    Then throw in his incredible inexperience, his ‘darkness,’ and he will be the ‘gift’ (to us) ‘that keeps on giving.’ (And all of this is without looking at his votes as a House member — which should be a wonderful area to mine.)

    (And one extra point about his ‘creationism.’ While the creationists are very loud and noisy, the fact is that even most Protestants, and almost all Protestants outside the RR fringe, DO accept evolution — or simply have never thought about it and looked at the evidence.)

    Please, please pick Jindal, Sen. McCain!

  • Not only all that, but he’s on the record saying Protestants are heretics. That’ll go over just great with the Southern Baptists, right?

    Bring. Him. On.

  • And one more point. If my own Democratic candidate — Sebelius, a liberal, pro-choice Catholic — gets picked, I’d love to hear a debate between the two of them strictly on religion. After she got through with them, well, anyone for a serving of Jindal Vindaloo?

  • probably the most amazing fact about him is that he majored in biology at Brown-go figure…

  • Would some ‘reporter’ please get Jindal on record stating his remedy for science teachers who refuse to deviate from a science-based curriculum to teach this nonsense? Must the schools carry redundant staff to handle the teaching of church dogma? Must my kid attend and be graded on this shit?

  • “I want them to be presented with the best thinking. I want them to be able to make decisions for themselves. I want them to see the best data.”

    Except that is, when that data pertains to drugs, sex education, climate change, etc.

  • You know, when it gets right down to it, I’d love to be able to teach the Bible in Public School.

    Talk about insulting people’s faith. Do you know what kind of stuff is in there?

  • Reminds me of the Interpersonal Communication requirement in college.

    Day 1 I opened the book and saw, on the page after the title page:

    “Write your name in this book. Become its third author”. I shut the book, left at the end of class, returned the book to the store and showed up thereafter for only the midterm and the final.

    Got a B

  • the names that have been floated for john w. mcsame’s running mate just keep getting more and more ridiculous: huck-a-buck, mittens, the exorcist, il douche giu911ani, grandpa fred, carly h-p…

    as flounder said in “animal house”: oh boy, this is gonna be great!

  • Talk about insulting people’s faith. Do you know what kind of stuff is in there?

    The riots will begin when parents find out the kiddies are reading the Song of Solomon. And there’s that bit about Lot’s daughters. Eww.

  • TAIO writes: “The riots will begin when parents find out the kiddies are reading the Song of Solomon.”

    So true. I’d love to explain the mistranslation of that one that goes:

    Face
    Breasts (like pomergranets)
    Stomach
    —-
    Navel (like wine?)

    Excuse me, there’s a progression here folks, and navels are not usually complemented for being juicy.

  • The GOP finally has its very own brown person. Yay. What did you expect they’d do? Considering they currently have not one single person of color in their congressional ranks. Sad, isn’t it? Does anyone think for one second they’re seriously considering a brown person a breath away from the presidency? Hilarious! Gingrich is so full of shit. What a total dufus. Why are we having to pay for the horrible childhoods of all those dorks that were picked last for dodge ball? When will it end?!

  • The Attacks from Liberals on Jindal every since his name was mentioned as possible VP confirms my suspicion. Jindal is the best candidate for Mccain and is the person the democrats fear the most. 1) Jindal as VP has more experience then the guy running for president named Obama 2) Jindal’s got firm convictions on values and that will stir up excitement for the conservative base 3) The attacks on Jindal up to now has been about a creative thinking paper he wrote on exorcism when he was 16…that tells voters, the attacks are desperate and will paint a dirty low blow tactic picture onto the dems…good for Mccain 4) Jindal is a genuine genius and will fit perfectly well in a time where Americans are hungry for smart solutions to the country’s issues 5) Jindal as an american indidan will be able to point out the hyprocrisy and re-packaged failed policies of Obama without fearing the racist police 6) ….did I say that Jindal is a genius? at 24 he turned a state health department deficit of 400 million to a 200 million surplus in less then 3 years……at 24 years old! This is has no need for applause, attention or praises….he gets excited over progress and results for his people….he’s like the Nerding politicians that’s high on being an effective leader. Geeze, what’s not to love…Jindal is that one and only politician we have only dreamed of in the past….

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