Kerry questions McCain’s judgment, media screws up another story

John Kerry appeared on CBS’s “Face the Nation” yesterday, and did a fine job as an Obama campaign surrogate. In fact, I’d go so far as to say he was pretty darn good — he dominated the discussion, hit all the high notes, and generally did exactly what the Obama campaign hoped he’d do. But then, there was, once again, the media’s reaction.

Fast forward to about the 7:40 mark, and you’ll hear, after an entirely substantive critique from Kerry on McCain, “Face the Nation” host asked Bob Schieffer asked Kerry incredulously, “Are you now challenging John McCain’s integrity?”

John Cole said he “threw the remote.” I can’t say I blame him, though my response was more towards burying my face in my hands, grief-stricken over the realization that McCain’s media “base” is royally screwing up coverage of yet another presidential campaign.

I mean, really. I know Schieffer’s interview with Wesley Clark generated some attention for “Face the Nation” last week, and maybe he hoped to go two-for-two, but if you watch the interview, nothing Kerry said even resembled an attack on McCain’s integrity. Why even ask a question like that?

Just as absurd was the AP’s article about Kerry’s criticism. The first two sentences read, “John Kerry says Republican John McCain doesn’t have the judgment to be president. If that’s the case, then it’s probably a good thing McCain rejected overtures from Kerry, the Democratic presidential nominee in 2004, to form a bipartisan ticket and run with Kerry as his candidate for vice president.”

Got that? The media still wants to attack Kerry as some kind of flip-flopper. The most important aspect of Kerry’s interview — the part that the AP put at the very top of its article — was that there were rumors four years ago about McCain joining the Democratic ticket.

And as it turns out, the AP appears to have screwed this up, too.

Not to be picky about it, but the AP article’s description is the one the McCain campaign wants to see — that Kerry sought out McCain, but McCain “rejected overtures” from Kerry.

That’s an inherently pro-McCain spin, and as regular readers know, there’s evidence to the contrary. The AP doesn’t mention it — the facts didn’t fit into the article’s partisan frame — but according to the 2004 Democratic nominee, McCain aides approached Kerry, not the other way around.

As for what Kerry actually said, he made a pretty compelling case.

“And the result is that John McCain has flip-flopped on more issues than I was even ever accused possibly of thinking about! I mean, this is extraordinary what he’s done: He’s changed on taxes; he’s now in favor of the Bush tax cut. If you like the Bush economy, if you like the Bush tax cut and what it’s done to our economy, making wealthier people wealthier and the average middle class struggle harder, then John McCain is going to give you a third term of George Bush and Karl Rove.

“If you like what has happened to oil prices, John McCain is going to continue that policy. If you like what you see about health care, John McCain has no health care plan.

“I would have at least expected the John McCain that I knew back then to realize what almost every person in the Pentagon has admitted. There are very few who walk around and say, ‘Going into Iraq was the right thing to do, and we should have done it, or do it again if I have the chance.’ John McCain does.

“I’m challenging Senator McCain’s judgment,” Kerry said, “that says, ‘There’s no violent history between Sunni and Shia.’ That’s wrong. His judgment that says, ‘This is going to increase the stability of the Middle East.’ It hasn’t, it’s made it less stable. The judgment that says, quote, ‘This will be the best thing for America and the world in a long time. It’s the worst thing that we’ve done in a long time. And he’s turned his [focus] away from Afghanistan and al Qaeda and made America less safe. That’s dangerous for our country.”

Kerry criticized McCain’s continued support of the occupation, given the effect of a continuing presence of U.S. troops on the situation in Iraq and the region at large. He pointed to remarks by leaders in the Middle East who told him during a recent visit, “You, America, have served up to Iran Iraq on a platter.”

And as for the media, be sure to take a moment to read Jamison Foser’s latest, in which he explains how “much of the media has abandoned any pretense of neutrality,” and has created a “protective barrier” to shield McCain from questions.

Just watching MSNBC as I was reading this, and heard Andrea Mitchell say something to the effect of, “Gosh, this really should be a Democratic year! You look at the polls, and Democrats are ahead of Republicans by 18 points in public preference, and yet somehow John McCain is only a couple points behind Barack Obama? Why is that?”

Golly, Andrea, maybe it’s because the media — you, especially — have formed a protective barrier around John McCain, ignoring all his flipflops and flaws and defending him from even the mildest of criticisms? Maybe that has something to do with it?

The lack of self-reflection from these idiots is just amazing.

  • I was watching Face the Nation yesterday, and just about fell off my chair when I heard Schieffer’s indignant question about McCain’s integrity. It came totally out of left field. That was shameful behavior for a respected “news” personality. A stunt worthy of FOX News, actually.

    If only Kerry had taken Schieffer to the woodshed at that very moment, instead of, well… being Kerry.

    The Sunday news shows are becomming a circus of personalities and ratings. Thank God for PBS and the internet.

  • Kerry’s problem is that he’s listening to advisors who tell him it’s better to be a big pussy. This lost him the election four years ago, and lost the country its last opportunity to turn aside from the disastrous Bush doctrine.

    Come to think of it, mustn’t MOST Democrats be listening to that same bad advice?

  • Vietnam is a spectre that hangs over the shoulder of every foreign policy debate. Americans do not want to see the United States “lose” another war. Democrats need to explain, in simple terms, why withdrawing our soldiers from Iraq is the only way to achieve stability in that country that the Bush administration has screwed up so badly.

    Basically we have three options in Iraq:

    1) Our military can go on the offensive and kill everyone who wants to continue fighting — maybe a quarter of the population. Then we can impose a peace and impose a government.

    2) We can keep our military there to suppress the worst of the fighting. But this won’t stop assassinations and car bombings, which will lead to reprisals, which will spiral into endless back-and-forth revenge attacks like in Palestine. Twenty years from now, nothing will have changed and American soldiers will still be getting attacked from all sides.

    3) We can tell the Iraqis that we are leaving and that they will have about 18 months to make the kind of painful compromises that are necessary for peace.

    As things stand now, the Iraqi leaders have no incentive to move the peace process forward. Each of the groups — the Shi’a leadership, the Shi’a opposition, the Sunnis and the Kurds — will have to make painful concessions to satisfy the other groups. These are the kind of concessions that will cost the political leaders their positions, if not their lives. They aren’t going to do that unless the alternative is worse. And as long as the American military is in Iraq to keep the country from exploding into chaos things won’t get worse, even though the situation won’t get any better either.

  • What the FUCK is going on at the Associated Press?

    No idea, but they need to be called out on it. We need to find a way to shame them.

    Maybe we should all send them box after box of Dunkin Donuts. With sprinkles!

  • The MSM wants a close race, so they’re working overtime to tear down Obama and build up McCain. It’s pathetic and dishonest.

  • The rampant sexism and homophobia throughout the comment sections of the AP article link says it all.

    That’s their (MSM) target audience.

    I think I’m going to go cry.

  • I think top Democrats should start calling the media out to their face on this.

    Conventional wisdom says you can hint at the media acting biased (example Obama saying he is “puzzled”, but not saying “you idiots are picking up McCain talking points”)

    I think Dem leaders should take a cue from blogs like this one, and ask questions back to the media – MAKE THEM ANSWER their own framing.

    Example – Bob Scheiffer, do you not agree with the fact that McCain changed his tax policy? Is that or is that not a fact based on your reporting? and so on.

    There’s one obstacle to Obama becoming president, and that’s the biased media. Obama & his supporters have no choice but to expose the lapdogs for what they are.

  • BuzzMon is correct.

    The bigger picture is that the press has a spectrum going from (A) overtly-in-the-tank-for-McCain to (B) Highly friendly to McCain while pretending to be objective. AP has made the move from B to A.

    This overall situation was a given from the moment the GOP realized how ridiculous all the other candidates were and defaulted to nominating McCain. His status as unquestioned media darling is one of his few electoral assets.

  • I guess word on the street is You are not allowed to question anything about McCain. Just sit back and keep your mouth shut. This is BS. Im soo tired of
    this over the top PC BS. I just took a poll at http://www.veeppeek.com It asked if What Clark said earlier this week should ban him from Obamas Ticket. If any thing I think it should put Clark at the top of Obamas List. McCain wanted Clark cut loose because the McCain camp is scared of an Obama Clark ticket. It makes McCain irrelavent. I signed a petition at http://www.theobamaplan.com asking Obama to pick Clark as his Vp. If you would like to defend Clark go sign the petition.

  • Actually, claiming that someone is a flip-flopper should be grounds to be asked at least if you question that someone’s integrity.

    That’s because McCan’t has either flipped because he has no integrity and he wants to pander to his base..
    …or he’s flipped because he now believes his new position.

    On BGII’s tax cuts, McCan’t was against them because (the first) they favored the rich and (the second) shouldn’t be put in place because we were at war. But since then he’s said he’s against resinding the tax cuts because that would be a tax increase and tax increases are wrong/unfair/bad.

    Of course, the size of the tax cuts was premised on the idea that they WOULD expire and we would have the revenue to deal with the retiring Baby Boomers. That’s a promise that BGII and JSMcC now want everyone to forget. They got more tax cuts early (which was supposed to spur the economy, not just make their friends (and VP) rich because they would allow the tax rate to return to it’s Clinton years level (when our economy also grew).

    If there is a flip-flop I’d hit McCan’t with, it is going back on the promise to return rates in return for even lower rates. That’s a lack of integrity.

  • We need to organize a writing a campaign where we target these news organizations via telephone and letters. I think email can be easily overlooked. What does everybody else think?

  • The Corporate/Repiglican ‘Media’ is actually the CORPORATE MAFIA … these evil, soul less, buffoons are committing purposeful fraud, lies, and propaganda. Of themselves they are the biggest threat to DEMOCRACY. These multimillionaire ‘journalists’ should be charged, tried, and convicted for purposeful fraud committed against the American people. They should be frog marched out of the protection of their corporate studios and directly into prison and turned into ‘bitches’ for the enjoyment of the inmates.

  • Item # 4 from SteveT shows where we as a nation are today. He is boiling solutions down to stay or go, Right or wrong, yes or no. Ugly messes like Iraq never have simple, clear or easy answers. Process is made when someone comes up with alternative and cleaver ideas.
    Let’s try one for example:
    Ebay the whole of Iraq. Get the leaders of all the groups in Iraq in a room, explain to them that they can come up with a solution to work together by the next morning or we will split the country between Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Kuwait and Israel (or some other combination of countries.) They would either work together or they would be no more Iraq to worry about.
    Let’s face it if we had looked for others ways to face this problem Bush wouldn’t have walked in there with and Army and started shooting up the place.

  • I got this list of the AP board from Talking Points Memo:

    William Dean Singleton – Chairman
    Vice Chairman and CEO
    MediaNews Group Inc.
    Denver, Colorado

    Gary Pruitt – Vice Chairman
    Chairman, President and CEO
    The McClatchy Company
    Sacramento, California

    Donna J. Barrett
    President and chief executive officer
    Community Newspaper Holdings
    Birmingham, AL

    Craig A. Dubow
    President and chief executive officer
    Gannett Co., Inc.
    McLean, VA

    R. Jack Fishman
    Publisher and Editor
    Citizen Tribune
    Morristown, Tennessee

    Walter E. Hussman Jr.
    Publisher
    Arkansas Democrat-Gazette
    Little Rock, Arkansas

    Julie Inskeep
    Publisher
    The Journal Gazette
    Fort Wayne, Indiana

    Mary Jacobus
    President and Chief Operating Officer
    The New York Times Regional Media Group
    Tampa, Florida

    Boisfeuillet (Bo) Jones
    Publisher and CEO
    The Washington Post
    Washington, D.C.

    Mary Junck
    President and CEO
    Lee Enterprises, Inc.
    Davenport, Iowa

    David Lord
    President
    Pioneer Newspapers, Inc.
    Seattle, Washington

    Rupert Murdoch
    Chairman and chief executive officer
    News Corp.
    New York, NY

    R. John Mitchell
    Publisher
    Rutland Herald
    Rutland, Vermont

    Steven O. Newhouse
    Chairman,
    Advance.Net
    New York, New York

    Charles V. Pittman
    Senior Vice President-Publishing
    Schurz Communications Inc.
    South Bend, Indiana

    Michael E. Reed
    CEO
    GateHouse Media, Inc.
    Fairport, New York

    Bruce T. Reese
    President and CEO
    Bonneville International Corp.
    Salt Lake City, Utah

    Jon Rust
    Publisher
    Southeast Missourian
    Co-president, Rust Communications
    Cape Girardeau, Missouri

    David Westin
    President
    ABC News
    New York, New York

    H. Graham Woodlief
    President, Publishing Division
    Vice President,
    Media General Inc.
    Richmond, Virginia

    Sam Zell
    Chairman and chief executive officer
    Tribune Company
    Chicago, IL

  • What does everybody else think? -Micheline

    I think they’re too rich to care.

    Seriously, what are you going to write in a letter that will change Rupert Murdoch? As long as he continues to make money, he doesn’t care what you or I think.

    What we should do is increase media ownership regulations. Only a handful of people control information now, and since their domination of television and print is complete, they’ll be after the internet in it’s entirety now.

  • Doubtful,

    We have to find a way to shame them. They will have an impact on the election.

  • We have to find a way to shame them. They will have an impact on the election.

    Doubtful is correct – they can’t be shamed. This deception is a deliberate choice being made by corporate organizations which are fully aware of what they are doing. You don’t shame Al Capone.

    The good news is your second sentence is also incorrect. $4/gallon gas and a second recession would destroy McCain even if he were a much better candidate. Media gangsters can’t stop this.

    The real battle will be post-election, as the same media will go all out to destroy the Obama administration. Obama will need to use all the regulatory power at his disposal to destroy them first.

  • JC…comment #2. NPR has become a FOX surrogate. They are paid more by FOX for their commentary than NPR.
    We’ve quit donating money to NPR because they have become another arm of the RNC. You haven’t listened to them lately…it’s downright disgusting. They aren’t public radio anymore. Go to Glenn Greenwald at salon.com and read how Liassom is promoting the Bill Kristol line that “most Americans” want to stay in Iraq (in spite of all the polls showing just the opposite) and that only the “extreme fringe left base of the dem party” wants America to withdraw troops (this extreme left base is the majority of Americans according to “ALL” the polls). NPR now sucks and do nothing but promote the republican propaganda…and get well paid for doing it. How depressing…national public radio is corporate controlled.

  • I’ve read CB’s post and I have a thought. I haven’t read any of the comments yet, because I need to get back to my “real work”, so I apologize for not being “in the thread”. Here’s my thought.
    Bob Schieffer asks something like “Are you now challenging John McCain’s integrity?”, the most effective response by someone in Kerry’s position is to say, something like “No, I’m not challenging John McCain’s personal integrity. As I said, I am challenging his judgment, based on the facts that I just shared with you. Now, Bob, why would you ask a question like that unless YOU doubt John McCain’s integrity? It is quite interesting that you should bring up the idea that John McCain’s integrity is questionable.”
    Just keep throwing this stuff back in their faces. Eventually they will get tired of being embarassed.
    (more on straw men in another post)

  • jimBOB: “they can’t be shamed”

    But we have to die trying.

    Use faxes instead of e-mails. Actually seeing paper gets a reaction. If you think there is no point faxing the media houses directly, then send your faxes to CONGRESSMEN or OBAMA surrogates.

    Let them know that their campaign is DEAD if they don’t stand up to the media bias, and call it for what it is.

  • Yay every once and awhile democrats get a taste of the media bias that republicans deal with all the time. Fortunately the media made it’s pro-Obama obvious during the democratic primary so a lot more people have their eyes open regarding media bias.

    To those who say the media is “pro-McCain” I strongly disagree. They were during the republican primary (McCain supports global warming legislation is a big reason imo) but rapidly took a reversal (as I expected) during the general.

  • FYI idealist eutopia is no more valid of a reason than religion for making decisions. The way YOU want to see the world is no more correct than a religious person using god to tell people how to live. I would hope liberals could see this simple fact since they criticize religious conservatives for it.

    FYI look at the wording used to describe McCain and Obamas stances on issues overall. Non-partisan think tanks are finding evidence of pro-Obama bias. Please inform yourself. I tend to try to believe what I see not see what I believe.

  • How does a non-profit organization wedge itself into being McCain’s biographers?

    All Politics.

    Go Reuters! Go UPI!
    Shieffer is an ass. Wonder what his connection to McCain is.

    Not Pro-McCain? Hosting bar-b-ques and buying donuts isn’t a sign of currying favor? how about do your jobs, as Pulitzer would have you do, you yipping mongrels.

  • Message to Obamabots:

    Associated Press is the latest news outlet to break the pro-Obama bias ordered by the liberal elite. We must enforce the pro-Obama bias at all cost. We already prevented the democrats from electing a good candidate now we must move forward with our plan to put the empty suit in the white house.

    Anyone who refuses pro-Obama bias must be censored or killed; whichever is more prudent at the time and this depends on the severity of their offense. Resistance is futile.

  • Just curious about the name SickofBushMcCainLiebermann

    Is Liebermann now the same as Bush too? The McSame thing is a big stretch at best but I will find it truly entertaining if Liebermann’s independance on issues means he is the same as Bush also. What ever happened to liberals being independant thinkers? Unfortunately most liberals have become as like minded as religious conservatives; sad 🙁

  • Cryos (a river) – Forget your meds?
    Your incoherant rambling includes “Anyone who refuses pro-Obama bias must be censored or killed; whichever is more prudent at the time and this depends on the severity of their offense. Resistance is futile.”
    Liberals are not Vogons.

  • Cryos (a river) – Forget your meds? -BuzzMon

    Are you kidding? He gets $0.10 per comment. Cryos will never be without meds again!

  • I wish I got .10 per comment that would be pretty sweet; nice try though.

    I just find it amusing how liberals’ pursuit of their “god” idealist eutopia has made them become what they claim to despise in religious conservatives; “faith based politics” with no basis in fact or logic.

    Actually resistance is futile is from the Borg in Star Trek not from Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy 🙂

    I find that phrase appropriate since liberals appear to have lost their independence in favor of a hive mind on nearly all political issues. Obviously there is no exaggeration intended in my posts 😉

  • what’s clear is that the MSM is loving the ratings, and wants to keep the horse race going — it’s a money machine.

    i’ve OD’d on tv coverage to the point of nausea. besides, the Tour de France has started and that’s where the real action is.

  • Maybe Bob Scheiffer is just looking for headlines each week to capitalize on Russert’s death.

  • John Kerry is such a tool. Who cares what he thinks. Dump Kerry, Pelosi and Reid … and while you’re at it … dump Obama and the Huffington Post. They’re all useless, and dangerous to America.

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