Kissinger admits victory not possible in Iraq

Guest Post by Michael J.W. Stickings

According to Henry Kissinger, in an interview today with the BBC as reported by the AP, victory in Iraq is impossible:

If you mean by “military victory” an Iraqi government that can be established and whose writ runs across the whole country, that gets the civil war under control and sectarian violence under control in a time period that the political processes of the democracies will support, I don’t believe that is possible.”

The problem is that “[a] dramatic collapse of Iraq — whatever we think about how the situation was created — would have disastrous consequences for which we would pay for many years and which would bring us back, one way or another, into the region”. Therefore: “I think we have to redefine the course, but I don’t think that the alternative is between military victory, as defined previously, or total withdrawal.” His concrete proposals are to engage the U.N. Security Council and Iraq’s neighbours and to turn Iraq into a confederation of loosely autonomous regions.

As reported by the L.A. Times, Kissinger claims to be “a friend of the administration who thinks well of the president”. Which is enough to throw his credibility, such as he has much left regardless, into disrepute. However, what he is essentially saying here is that Bush’s misadventure in Iraq has been a failure. We know that already, but it’s nice to hear directly from Kissinger.

But then, if he’s right, how do you continue a military campaign when victory is no longer possible?

Let’s send Henry, Geroge, Dick(less) and all the other far right patriotic draft-dodgers to make it right. That way they can atone for their failure to show up 40 years ago.

  • Can’t be won? Wow, what a genius! I don’t know why no one else figured that out before (screaming Democrats, smelly liberals, Benedict Arnold conservatives, decorated veterans, etc don’t count). Thank you, Mr. Kissinger for your brilliant insight that attaches no blame to the people responsible. Now crawl back under your rock you jackass.

    I swear I’m going to take a bat to the next piece of shit who smacks his head and says: “Gosh! Iraq is a complete mess!” like everything was hunky dory a minute ago.

    His concrete proposals are to engage the U.N. Security Council and Iraq’s neighbours

    Neighbors? As in the people ShrubCo has spent the last few years insulting?Can we send them his head as a gesture of friendship?

    and to turn Iraq into a confederation of loosely autonomous regions.

    So they’re too busy fighting one another to bother the rest of us. Nifty.

    And didn’t ShrubCo reject this idea a few months ago? Like they’re consistent or anything. Silly tAiO.

  • ***Can we send them his head as a gesture of friendship?***
    ——————————tAiO-A

    No, you may not. One does not placate a vehemently-angry opponent by sending them an empty box—which is exactly what Bush’s head is. In order to placate the region, you must (1) tie that mutton-chopped Cheney to an iron post, (2) hang his bloated carcass over a very hot fire to roast (Mesquite would be nice; we could send some over on the next plane), and then serve him up on a platter with ample quantities of poi and toast.

    Let’s call it “a Cheney Luau….”

  • Once upon a time, before Nancy Pelosi ruined everything, Dubya just had to say a thing was, and it WAS! If we could just get back to that golden age, The Great Decider would just wave his mighty hand and intone, “Iraq is a free-market democracy with the rule of law and an eye out for ‘Merka’s interests”, and pouf!! Iraqis would scurry about producing even more oil for even less money (for themselves, I mean) for their ‘Merkan friends in Washington. Ahmed Chalabi would be president, and his crown of office would be an Exxon-Mobil baseball cap. The Iraqi army (all 500 Divisions) massed shoulder-to-shoulder would beg for the privilege of annihilating the Godless Iranians….

    Did I mention that Nancy Pelosi ruined everything? Or maybe it was Bill Clinton.

  • I’m so happy to hear Mr. Kissinger is on the case!

    And he appears to have decided the Vietnamization Iraqi training policy isn’t working.

    “Peace with honor” can’t be far away.

    Have they upgraded the heliport on the embassy yet?

  • I have to agree with TAIO.

    I am sick to death of these “conservatives” finally realizing that we are losing and oh so nobly informing the rest of us as if we were idiot children.

    Someone needs to tell these guys that the American People don’t need their approval. It’s the other way around.

  • Kissinger should certainly know military disasters and failed Republican presidencies when he sees them, but nonetheless, goddammit, we’re Americans. We should be able to bomb the heck out of something successfully. Maybe Bush could invade Grenada and re-establish our standing in the world. [/sarcasm]

  • As Tom Lehrer once said:
    “Once they gave Kissinger the Nobel Peace Prize,
    parody became obsolete”.

  • N Wells, @ 8,

    Not Grenada; Geneva. Better yet, let’s bomb the hell out of Geneva — that’ll show them what we think of them and their “conventions”…

  • As much as I dislike Kissinger, and I dislike him even more than Nixon if that’s even possible, his defeatism comes at the worst possible time. Furthermore, I don’t believe he has any business inserting himself into the debate over Iraq. His conduct during the Vietnam war destroys whatever moral credibility he has.

    Any discussion of the worsening situation in Iraq should be put into the wider context of the political and economic stability of the region which truly is the only viable reason for this country to remain there. As much as I detest Bush and his coterie of frauds and chickenhawks for lying and misleading the public and Congress into this war, the fact is we broke it and now we can’t leave until it’s fixed. Put another way, the political stability of the region must be acheived so that the economic stability of Iraq is possible. It is in the interests of the entire world that this conflict be resolved successfully. The sad fact that so much oil is located in this region is the driving force behind the need for the political solution to be effective and lasting no matter what it is. We cannot remake the country of Iraq in the image of our choosing as the morons in Washington maintained we could. This war may not be the “central front on the war on terror” as those lying shits in the White House tell us, but it is the central front on the war to create the political and economic stability that is crucial to the interests of the Iraqi people and to the interests of this country as well.

  • …the fact is we broke it and now we can’t leave until it’s fixed. -Timpanist

    Ah yes, the Pottery Barn maxim (not that PB ever had such a rule). I used to concur, but my metaphor has shifted. Sticking with the ceramics theme, my image of the U.S. in Iraq is now a “bull in a china shop”. Yes, we broke it. No, we aren’t going to fix it. Not a chance.

    We can certainly bash and bang around until there is nothing left to break, but we are not fit to handle the repair work. Like the bull, our forces are addled by dense rage and excess testosterone. Like the bull, our forces lack the subtlety that comes with modern nuances like opposable thumbs. Nobody expects the bull to fix the mess, they just want him to leave, and sooner rather than later.

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