Kristol corrects — has he done Obama a favor?

March 17, 2008

Following up on an earlier item, the NYT’s Bill Kristol has added a correction to his Obama hit-job from this morning: “In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama camapaign [sic] has provided information showing that Senator Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error.”

Yes, it is amusing that Kristol’s correction is in need of a correction. (Also, the folks at the Office of the Public Editor at the NYT are apparently telling readers who contact them about this, “You are correct, he was wrong.”)

But before we leave this story altogether, it’s worth considering whether Kristol has managed to help Obama by writing a sloppy column with a glaring error. Noam Scheiber raises an interesting argument.

Looking forward to the general election, it’s obviously a concern that professional right-wing smearers like Kristol have not only jumped on the Wright controversy, which is fair game, but also feel entitled to embellish details as they please (or, at the very least, repeat them from other sources unquestioningly). […]

Having said that, I think the effect of all the conservative noise-making about Wright could be very different in the primaries. The constant drumbeat from the likes of Kristol and Limbaugh could actually drive Democratic voters toward Obama. I could see the Kristol column leading to the sort of media backlash only Hillary has benefited from so far. […]

The irony is that Kristol’s point (as opposed to his facts) isn’t entirely wrong … but, thanks to Kristol’s sloppiness, the Obama campaign may have some immunity against these charges. Get ready to hear Kristol invoked as a short-hand for all kinds of inaccurate reporting on Wright.

Ben Smith added, “[Kristol’s] error that allows the candidate to portray the whole story as a right-wing distortion.”

I hadn’t actually considered that, but it’s at least partially persuasive. I can imagine a point in the very near future at which Obama supporters say, “Rev. Wright? Oh, that story was inflated and distorted by conservative hatchet-man Bill Kristol. He even ran a correction.” I can also imagine, as Noam points out, a backlash — if Kristol is going after Obama, Dems might respond with more sympathy for Obama. (It also helps that McCain, oddly enough, is taking a pass on the controversy, and actually defended Obama to Sean Hannity.)

On the other hand, there’s all of those videos that have been in heavy rotation on every network for the last several days. Kristol clearly screwed up (again), and offered the Obama campaign a way to help change the story (at least a little), but that won’t change the fact that when most voters hear “God damn America,” they’re bothered, offended, and suddenly skeptical about Obama.

I’ve seen some suggestions in recent days that this is one of those crises/opportunities, which Obama could use to deliver one of his usually-impressive speeches. It appears the campaign agrees.

Barack Obama will give a major speech on “the larger issue of race in this campaign,” he told reporters in Monaca, PA just now.

He was pressed there, as he has been at recent appearances, on statements by his former pastor, Jeremiah Wright.

“I am going to be talking about not just Reverend Wright, but the larger issue of race in this campaign,” he said.

He added that he would “talk about how some of these issues are perceived from within the black church issue for example,” he said. […]

The speech could offer Obama an opportunity to move past the controversy over his pastor, and to turn the conversation to a topic he’d rather focus on: his Christian faith. But the speech also guarantees that the Wright story will continue to dominate political headlines.

Stay tuned.

Well, the fact remains the the Corporate/Repiglican media being lead by ABC, MSNBC AND FOX NEWS is trying to find anyway that they can to destroy Obama. And this has all been set up by none other than Tim Russet during that last debate on , of course, MSNBC WHEN HE DID HIS RAPID ATTACK DOG NUMBER ON OBAMA CONCERING FARAKAN. And, of course, no one is talking about the Corporate Boy McCain whose ‘spiritual advisors’ are advocating the END TIMES by way of bombing Iran so as to make that happen. And within that that insanity includes the delusion of Armageddon and the destruction of the entire Jewish Race unless THEY CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY. Etc, etc, etc. No, no one is claiming that McCain has a ‘pastor problem’ .. only Obama does. This is part of the Corporate Media game plan to destroy any Democrate because all Democrats want to change the culture of CORPORATE GREED in which we have a government BY AND FOR THE FEW.

  • I think Obama will probably say something about how he listens to people of all stripes, not just the ones who have never seen the darker side of American influence in the world. I hope he’ll mention the days when black ministers berated the US for other policies like segregation.

    People like Pat Robertson, who unlike Rev Wright reach millions of viewers, ranted about crazy shit every day, like how America was punished with terrorism because of our tolerance of gay people. Should every politician who has appeared with these idiots commit ritual suicide? Of course not. They can disagree with what was said, and we all move on from there.

    Or not. I think the people who believe that this issue is a deal-breaker would have fallen for McCain’s BS anyway. We need to soldier on, and keep our eye on the prize.

    CHANGE.

  • Wright should have said God Damn God, if he wanted to go to the source of the problem. His God who is omnipotent, omniscient, omni-all kinds of stuff. and who even designed this world allows this crap to go on and Wright only wants to blame America? Hey dude, better run. God is calling FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!

    Seriously I think the Wright/Obama thing is a very good example of where Obama is taking this whole issue forward toward getting beyond it. See where there is progress. See where there is still work to do. Can we moveon, yes we can.!

  • Great post, #!. If anyone hasn’t seen The Corporation, I recommend that you do. It’s running on LINKtv (Dish 9410). If anyone wonders why the corporations have more vote than the American populace that film is a good answer.

    The thing we have to remember about Kristol (the chairman of PNAC whose mission is to have America rule the world) and while I could list out every station and pundit, they all have an agenda. And none of their agendas are pure of heart.

    I can tolerate republicans who vocally support their candidates, as much as I can mostly tolerate those who vocally support Clinton or Obama (there is a line that can be crossed and many do just that), if they truly feel that their candidate is the best. Those are intentions I can handle. But the media and some of the people in it have their own agenda which goes way past which candidate they feel can run America that best.

    To me, that is traitorous.

    As to the media in general, Amy Goodman said a brilliant line the other day:

    The is no Fourth Estate, it is now For the State.

  • Kristol is obviously alluding to the Arabic word “kama-pana” which means “secret takeover of gullible infidels.”

  • Someday, somebody will have proof that he was at the church when Reverand Wright’s unique brand of hate was being preached, and one day that proof will surface and Obama will be TOAST.

    If Obama wins the nomination, the proof will certainly come to light before November.

  • Greg: your bile and mendacity only make you look even more stupid than you probably are, and confirm everything everyone things about the mental incapacity of Clintonistas.

    Take your white supremacy and your illiteracy between your thumb and forefinger, and on the count of three, stick it where you normally keep your head.

    BTW – a word to the wise: you are >

  • A word to the wise: you are quite close to joingin JRS Jr and Seaberry in Idiot World – a place that doesn’t have bandwidth connection to here.

  • Apparently Obama has noticed that those who would make this election campaign about race have been largely successful. I have an American friend who is a lifelong Republican – he was poised, he says, to vote for Obama. But now, he goes on, he’s going to vote for McCain instead, because Obama “scares him”.

    For those of you who thought that, in these enlightened times, it would be difficult to spread the vision of the darkies “risin’ up” against Old Massa and burning the plantation; falling about drunk on the shaven lawns garbed in clothing taken from the white folks’ closets…it isn’t difficult at all. This is borne out by the premise that an otherwise intelligent and learned man could be scared off of his election choice by remarks attributed to the candidate’s pastor.

    You might say, he’s just one guy. Not only that, he might (a) change his mind again before the general, or (b) really wouldn’t have voted for Obama anyway when it came down to casting the ballot. But that would miss the larger issue – it’s still possible, and apparently acceptable, to play the politics of fear based on a person’s skin color.

    Those who are so easily spooked must imagine a President Obama would immediately dismiss all the honkies and fill their posts with the bruthas. I don’t believe it would be ethically possible to do anything of the kind, but even if it were, only an idiot would do anything that even hinted at such a purge – not if he wanted a second term, and what president doesn’t? And Barack Obama is not an idiot. It has proven perfectly possible for white candidates to win the presidency without significant help from the black voters, for decades upon decades. It doesn’t, however, work the other way. Barack Obama couldn’t win with just the black vote, and he knows it very well. That’s why his campaign has been a model of inclusion.

    This is just an attempt to frighten off the white swing vote, which is forecast to be decisive. If it succeeds, it will say something about America that should make a lot of people hang their heads in shame.

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  • i don’t know about the rest of y’all ..but ..having attended a couple of holy roller revivals in my tender years .. i’d certainly hate to be held accountable for what a preacher or two has said was gonna happen come judgement day .. some of would make good science fiction …

    imagine being held responsible for everything your preacher says … lol

  • The completely over the top activism of media and of folks within it like Kristol and Rove has actually worked against them. Sure their ditto-heads that have agreed with them will continue to do so, but for those paying any attention it’s obvious they are pushing a self-serving agenda to nobody else’s benefit. It is so easy to write them off that even if they ever said something that was right, just looking at the messenger completely discredits the message. Fox, the Weekly Standard, the right wing pundits one and all are like the Pravda of the US and it is now so easy to find the truth by simply reversing the viewpoints of these media outlets. They have lost their ability to persuade and force everyone else to build barricades to protect against their broadsides.

  • Tom Cleaver @ #8

    I am not illiterate, and mendacity only applies to those of us who ignore the truth or twist it, which I have not. I have not posted anything racist, so your attack on me is in fact slander.

    What is plain to see in my original post is that the odds are VERY GOOD that Obama has attended a session at some point in the past 20 years of going to this church where the pastor has said something which would offend people, and it is NOT good for the democratic party to take this type of chance.

    Even without proof, many people would NOT vote for somebody who attends a RACIST church, and you people say that I have lost touch with reality? WAKE UP!

  • So now different candidates will have to wear different pages of NYT as their badges of honor for being smeared. McCain can wear the front page, Obama wears the editorials. Hillary…?

  • Racer X:

    “People like Pat Robertson, who unlike Rev Wright reach millions of viewers, ranted about crazy shit every day, like how America was punished with terrorism because of our tolerance of gay people. Should every politician who has appeared with these idiots commit ritual suicide? ”

    True. The different is Robertson is white and he is not speaking about racism against blacks in America.

    Once you start speaking about race a lot of whites get dismissive, defensive, and if cornered angry, even if you are not talking about them or anyone they know. America is so racialized that any affront on any white is seen as an accusation on all whites. Obama knows better. He should have distanced himself from this once he joined the Senate. He knows that Joe Six Pack in rural America with no college degree and barely the ability to think abstractly can not understand the complexities of this issue and just think in terms of “home team” and “visiting team”…black folks are the visitors.

  • 12.
    On March 17th, 2008 at 3:20 pm, petorado said:

    I sure hope you are right in what you say ……….

    …………. yet the sure fact the Corporate Media is doing this to Obama , and let’s remember what this same Corporate Media did to Gore, is fucking evil … to me they constitute THE NEW AXIS OF EVIL and are a clear and present danger to what is left of our once great Democracy .. what is left of our once great country called America. They are purposefully, criminally, committing FRAUD against the American people ………..

  • I am still skeptical that “Mid-Dull Murka” is ready for ITS president to be a Black dude with a funny name. Or a woman, either, for that matter.

    The people who have voted so far, in the primaries, almost by definition are NOT the folks who constitute the bulk of the electorate, which ventures forth only once, quadrennially, to choose a leader. Way over 100 million folks, over two election cycles, voted for The Chimperor, who was ‘one of them,’ a guy they’d ‘have a beer with.’ Neither BHO not HRC are part of what I’d call the “Cheers” crowd.

    I am not convinced that that dynamic has changed much (and I hasten to add that this is NOT my personal position in the debate, either. I’m no fan of either Hillary or Obama, but am even less one of McStain).

  • Hopefully, Obama’s comments will be something along these lines:

    Commentary: The Wright Dust-Up Shows and Proves That Many Whites Don’t Know Black People at All

    By: Deborah Mathis

    Date: Sunday, March 16, 2008

    The eruption of outrage, shock and fear that is flowing over Barack Obama’s campaign like hot lava because his pastor has preached some strident sermons tells us one thing for certain: Many white people don’t know black people at all.

    If they did, they would know that Rev. Jeremiah Wright of Chicago is hardly the only black minister who uses the pulpit to rant against racial duplicity and injustice. The black church has always been the place for letting our hair down and speaking our peace — a safe haven from the criminations outside. It’s how and why the black church became the nursery for the freedom and civil rights movements. Not every minister seasons his or her sermons with political commentary, and not every one who does is as fiercely spoken as Rev. Wright, but there is nothing unusual about the black clergy as social agitator. Guess the shockees didn’t know that.

    It seems they were also clueless that, when race, racism and discrimination do invade the pulpit, it is not always in the context of forgiveness and humility. Much of black America is resentful, angry and distrustful — rightly so, some of us would say. Did the uninitiated honestly believe that slavery, lynching, Jim Crow, white resistance and flight, economic and educational duality, hyper-incarceration and yawning disparities in wealth, health and longevity have had no lasting effects; that all of that is really no big deal — something we can kick off as easily as our Sunday shoes?

    Surprise.

    This could be a teaching moment for the society at large, which would do well to pay closer attention to 35 million of its members and to give heed to their accounts of their own experiences. Unfortunately, and typically, the alarmists are threatening to make it a Waterloo for Obama.

    The candidate has denounced Rev. Wright’s statements about America’s treachery, honest as they were.

    Obama has even removed his Wright from his ministerial council. That had to be painful for Obama, who has otherwise spoken devotedly of the preacher who “brought me to Jesus,” performed his marriage ceremony and baptized his daughters.

    Those pounds of flesh are not enough for the alarmists, however. They and frothing pundit after frothing pundit want the candidate to rebuke Wright categorically — mind, body and soul.

    Obama is in the unenviable position of having to court a large and diverse audience — the American electorate generally and Democratic voters particularly — that includes a good number of people who have no knowledge of, curiosity about, nor sympathy for the black experience, while, at the same time, remaining true to what he knows about Rev. Wright specifically and the black church generally.

    It’s a delicate balance, and Obama has tried to strike it, explaining to journalists that the anger and disdain expressed by Rev. Wright reflect common themes in “the black memory,” albeit not sentiments he shares.

    In a fair world, Obama would be able to elaborate about the black perspective and thereby give some context to Wright’s comments and the facts of black expression.

    But, then, in a fair world, there would be no racial divide to bridge. Of course, Obama’s detractors would never consider that.

    http://www.blackamericaweb.com/site.aspx/sayitloud/dmathis317

  • #18, it’s both, Daddy0…it’s both.

    And it makes me ashamed to be an American when I see how far we have not come. Jena showed how far we have not come. That Hagee and Parlsey can say whatever they want yet Wright is vilified (truth hurts sometimes), it shows how far we have not come.

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  • The “error” (written accidentally on purpose) was in the print edition, on the op-ed page. Lots of people read that. The correction was on-line and will, probably, appear tomorrow on the back of the front section, with all other errata. How many people — other than the political junkies like us — will see those corrections?

    So no, unless Kristol makes a big, public “mea culpa” — which I don’t see him doing — he has not done Obama any favours.

  • YOU PEOPLE DON’T GET IT.. Obama was not just associated with Rev. Wright, he was married by him, his children were baptized by him, until recently he held a very high position in his campaign.

    This is NOT the same thing as Republicans getting support from some crazy white pastor, this man is VERY CLOSE to Obama, and that is scary.

  • Greg, exactly what part of what Wright said bothers you so much? Exact quotes and why they bother you might make a case.

    I agree with what he said (and I am an older, white woman. America has reaped what it has sown across the globe. One in 100 Americans are in prison. What percentage of those are black? Why is his speaking out for people of color racist?

    I see it as truth.

  • Greg, give it a rest. Plenty of people have posted links to articles, videos, etc. re Trinity UCC showing it to be a loving Christian congregation that reaches out to those in need. I don’t have the link to the one video of a UCC minister (who is white) who attends Trinity. I doubt she finds the congregation racist. And read this from factcheck.org (a project of the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the Univ. of Penn): http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

    Prof. Martin Marty, quoted below, is a well-respected theologian and author. White, btw.

    ~~~
    Quote:
    It is true that Trinity describes itself as “a congregation which is Unashamedly Black and Unapologetically Christian” and which “does not apologize for its African roots.” The church’s Web site specifies a commitment to Africa and to “historical education of African people in diaspora.” The congregation is overwhelmingly black; few if any whites can be seen in the photographs and videos of the congregation posted on the church’s Web site. But none of that makes the church “racist” or anti-American.

    And in fact, a professor of theology at the University of Chicago Divinity School, Martin E. Marty, wrote this in April 2007, rebutting Rush’s claims on Fox News:

    Prof. Marty: To those in range of Chicago TV I’d recommend a watching of Trinity’s Sunday services, and challenge you to find anything “cultic” or “sectarian” about them. More important, for Trinity, being “unashamedly black” does not mean being “anti-white.” My wife and I on occasion attend, and, like all other non-blacks, are enthusiastically welcomed.
    Regarding this renewed attack on Trinity, Prof. Marty told FactCheck, “That kind of e-mail is vicious and lying, and makes my blood boil. … Many civic officials, public school teachers, etc. are members at Trinity; [Rev. Jeremiah] Wright has been on TV with his services for years, and no one found them racist – it’s smear politics.”

    Trinity would not comment to us for this article. Rev. Wright, however, appeared on Fox’s “Hannity and Colmes” on March 2, 2007, and responded at length to the claim made by Rush. He said in part:

    Alan Colmes: I want the public to understand where your church is coming from, because you’re being accused of being a black separatist church, and thus Obama is being accused by default of being a black separatist. Can you straighten that out for us, please?

    Wright: OK. The African-centered point of view does not assume superiority, nor does it assume separatism. It assumes Africans speaking for themselves as subjects in history, not objects in history.

    There’s no question that Wright has been a controversial figure, a passionate advocate for black self-help and to some, a radical. Jason Byassee, in a lengthy article on the church published in Christian Century magazine, said, “There is no denying … that a strand of radical black political theology influences Trinity.” He added, “Conservatives may find the Africentric church too political, and liberals may squirm over its revivalist emotion.” But he praised the church’s success in growing to more than 8,000 members, making this black congregation the largest single church in a predominately white United Church of Christ denomination, saying “the black church continues to makes converts in unlikely places, reflecting a God who makes a way where there is no way.”

    Wherever we looked we found ample evidence that Obama’s church is pro-black, but we found none to support a claim that it is anti-white. Calling it “racist” is, in our judgment, a falsehood.

  • Oh, is Reverend Wright running for president? I hadn’t realized. Good thing John Hagee isn’t also running as a Republican, after saying Hurricane Katrina was “God’s punishment on New Orleans” ….because they were planning to hold a gay pride parade. He endorsed McCain, it’s true, but John McCain also refused to repudiate that endorsement. He said that Pastor Hagee “supports what I support and believe in”.

    Are you married, Greg? Got kids? Can you remember who married you, and baptized your kids? Would you say that individual exercised such an influence over your life that, if you won public office, you’d call upon him to help you make policy?

    People like you are always willing to be scared, at least by a Democrat or a black man. Republican nutjobs like Kristol don’t scare you when they say it is America’s destiny to rule the world. Religious nutjobs like John Hagee don’t scare you when they say America must join with Israel in an attack on Iran, so as to fulfil God’s purpose by bringing on End Times. Financial whizbangs like Paul Wolfowitz don’t scare you, only exceeding their predicted budget for the Iraq war by a trillion or so.

    But Obama is scary. Let me ask you this; what could crazy Obama get America into that hasn’t been surpassed a thousand times over by George “Pointy-Tail” Bush in the last 7 years?

    Did he scare you, too?

  • It’s over for Obama. Just drop out from the nomination race, and take all the money with you and donate it to black poor people and if some left give it to Trinity Church.

  • Followup to my #24: Greg, by continually spreading falsehoods after you have been given proof that you are wrong, you prove yourself to be a troll and fearmonger.

    If Rev. Wright is such a horrible person, how is it that he started so many of Trinity’s outreach missions into his community, some of which include daycare centers, helping the homeless, helping those with AIDS, etc. I will see if I can find the article I was reading last night and post it here because the list was quite extensive. This outreach is what drew Obama to Wright. People like Rev. Wright are actually doing something to help this world. Unlike people like Greg who only go around spreading lies and division.

    I hope you don’t claim to be a Christian, Greg. I doubt Jesus would be happy with the filth you are sowing.

  • Hannah, if there was a god who smote, the vast majority of people who claim to be Christian would definitely be smotten (smite? Smitten? Hmmm. 🙂 )

  • MsJoanne #28,
    How true, how true. :-p

    I found the information I referred to above in #27:
    http://www.ucc.org/news/chicagos-trinity-ucc-is.html

    Quote: “In the wake of misleading attacks on its mission and ministry, Chicago’s Trinity United Church of Christ is being lauded by United Church of Christ leaders across the nation for the integrity of its worship, the breadth of its community involvement and the depth of its commitment to social justice.

    “Located in the heart of Chicago’s impoverished Southside, Trinity UCC’s vast array of ministries include career development and college placement, tutorial and computer services, health care and support groups, domestic violence programs, pastoral care and counseling, bereavement services, drug and alcohol recovery, prison ministry, financial counseling and credit union, housing and economic development, dozens of choral, instrumental and dance groups, and diverse programming for all ages, including youth and senior citizens.”

    Yep, sounds pretty awful. ::sarcasm off::

    Considering that Rev. Wright was the lead pastor there as the church grew from 80 to 6,000 members, I’ll bet he was responsible for or oversaw all of these programs. Like I said in my last post, this is what drew Obama, the community organizer, to Trinity and Rev. Wright.

    For those of you who know people who are willing to jump to McCain because they misunderstand Obama and his church, please point them to the truth that is out there.

  • The people who call themselves Christian these days have no value for others who actually help the poor, the downtrodden, the people in our society who need the most help but are left in the cold.

    I fear that there are going to be more and more of them, US, soon. And I wonder who will care for us.

  • Greg just realized he is nothing more than a corporate/repiglican hemmroid … and then did the right thing: a ‘liberal’ dose of preparation h applied to what he used to call his ‘head’ … problem solved

  • I notice that Greggy hasn’t responded to what that uppity pastor said that was so horrible. Once I heard what Wright said, I was pretty disappointed that all the MSM was so negative about it. There was so much that was right in what he said. Explosive, perhaps, but correct none the less.

    Still waiting for that list of quotes and why they are so dreadful, Greggy.

  • Although an opinion piece, the Kristol article is an example of careless journalism and continues to illustrate the NYT’s bias against Obama. I created a visual representation of this bias recently after the Mississippi victory using screenshots of front pages from different media organizations:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/breached/2327991743/

  • It is unbelievable to me that with the country nearly in a recession, foreclosures at an all time high – we are so engaged in a church sermon. If many you have been to a church service. You often hear sermons on many issues that are not applicable to you. If the pastor speaks about adultery does that make you an adulterer – if the pastor speaks about homosexuality – does that make you a homosexual, if the pastor speaks about being a non-believer – does that make you a sinner, the point is how in the world we can convict a person for attending a church service is just beyond belief. It shows we either have very naïve people in this country or maybe someone is really desperate for this man to lose. This is the most ridiculous thing ever!!

  • I just think that everyone should stop a bit and try not to miss the forest from the trees on this issue. Regardless of who you support here, I think the larger issue is more important than the specifics of who said what, when they said it, and who was there to actually witness it. There’s an overall pattern here. Obama said he was unaware about the very controversial statements and views of his pastor and spiritual advisor of 20 years, Revered Wright. Obama said he was unaware about Tony Rezko (his friend for at least 10 years) being under federal investigation when he purchased his home (something Obama even described as “boneheaded.”) So many times when these controversial issues have been brought into the public realm, Obama generally reverts to this “unaware” posture. I do not think Mr. Obama will be able to escape the questions; these are issues that won’t just go away because of the larger issue involved. Your pastor and spiritual advisor of 20 years and a political contributor and friend of 10 years with whom you are getting into a real estate deal with: He either knew or should have known about both of these men. Is Obama naive or negligent? Is he lying about these issues or was he truly just unaware. Either way, it’s not going to go away with another speech.

  • Why is everyone calling Greg a racist? He has not made any racist comments, but the Reverend Wright did. I do agree with some of what the Reverend said (for example, that the US is responsible for much suffering around the world), but I would never make these views known in a church (if I did go to a church, that is). I am also not running for President. While the Reverend’s comments may seem amusing and even refreshing to some, especially in the Northeast and the West Coast, they will not play in Peoria. An elected official needs to be able to speak for all of his or her constituents, not just some of them. It may be my First Amendment right to say “God Damn America”, but anyone who expects to represent ALL of the people should not be associating with those who do. It makes definitely makes people question his or her judgement and level of patriotism. One final note: Obama supporters espouse unity, yet they have the opposite effect when they call anyone who doesn’t share their views “racists” and “uneducated”. I guess unity only applies to their crowd.

  • Obama is only partially influenced by the church. After all, he’s 13% Muslim, according to the latest polls. Or something like that.

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